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[Q] Root with S-OFF

Hello everyone,
This is my first post and sorry if this question was already answered, but I couldn't find the answer to my particular question when I searched for it. I just recently got my Sensation for T-Mobile a couple weeks ago and rooted it but do not have the S-OFF because of the OTA update to 2.3.4 so I used the HTC unlock method. Is there any way I can get the s-off because I am finding it difficult to flash a lot of ROMs I want to try since a lot of them either never load or they just go into an infinite boot loop? Thanks for all your help and advice and I'm hoping I can gain more knowledge thru you guys since this was a big leap for me from a Blackberry 9700.

I recently rooted my HTC Sensation and got the s off following the directions provided here on xda. Then installed Revolution HD. No issues with that either. I just followed the directions there also. Did it not work for u?
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No, it didn't work for me. My friend told me that the alpharev method used here on the forums wouldn't work because I downloaded the OTA update to 2.3.4 when I first received it out of the box. He told me that only the htc unlock method would work to root my phone but I wouldn't have S-off. My phone is currently rooted right now with no s-off so certain ROMs won't flash or they will butt I'll hey errors in them.

I find that strange. I'm no expert but my Sensation was running stock Android 2.3.4 before I rooted and it reads that s is off. I went to revolutionary.io/ download for Windows filled in the info for the beta key save the zip file and and launch it then enter the beta key. Then just follow the prompts from there. Did u do that?
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Yup, I did exactly that a number of times but it didn't work. That's weird. Maybe someone else on here can help me get full s-off on my sensation. What's your service provider ? Cuz mine is T-Mobile and it came stock 2.3.3 but I did the OTA update and was able to root it but get no s-off

hi,
just to share my experience ... On Asian Starhub
i have updated to 2.3.4 via OTA before i root and s-off, and eventually supercid.
Followed the guide step by step.
The rooting , s-off and supercid process is smooth as butter ( as some dev quoted ).
Flashed Bulletproof 1.4 and now InsertCoin 3.3.0.
Perhaps u can provide more phone details like your current Hboot version and which part of the process you are stuck so that some experienced member can help u out easier.

flavor76 said:
hi,
just to share my experience ... On Asian Starhub
i have updated to 2.3.4 via OTA before i root and s-off, and eventually supercid.
Followed the guide step by step.
The rooting , s-off and supercid process is smooth as butter ( as some dev quoted ).
Flashed Bulletproof 1.4 and now InsertCoin 3.3.0.
Perhaps u can provide more phone details like your current Hboot version and which part of the process you are stuck so that some experienced member can help u out easier.
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Same here. 2.3.4 OTA and I am fully rooted with S-Off. Followed the guide step by step. Used Revolutionary.io with no problem. Be sure you enter your beta key in exactly, its case sensative. I'm also on TMOUS.
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cmalvado said:
I recently rooted my HTC Sensation and got the s off following the directions provided here on xda. Then installed Revolution HD. No issues with that either. I just followed the directions there also. Did it not work for u?
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So it worked ok for the Sensation XE? I'm about to upgrade my phone from the Desire (s-off, root, leedroid hd 3.3.3 data++) and was wondering if the revolutionary route would work (really want the XE!). Had no issues at all with the Desire and would wait to upgrade if there were issues.
Thanks.

pogiazz said:
Yup, I did exactly that a number of times but it didn't work. That's weird. Maybe someone else on here can help me get full s-off on my sensation. What's your service provider ? Cuz mine is T-Mobile and it came stock 2.3.3 but I did the OTA update and was able to root it but get no s-off
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Sorry if I'm asking the obvious or if this has already been covered, but did you first go to the HTC dev. site and follow their specific instructions for unlocking the bootloader? If not, do that first, then use Revolutionary to root/s-off, wipe your phone to factory (I always wipe dalvik cache and cache partition, too), then flash whatever ROM and kernel you want.
Let me know if that helps any.
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walkabout said:
So it worked ok for the Sensation XE? I'm about to upgrade my phone from the Desire (s-off, root, leedroid hd 3.3.3 data++) and was wondering if the revolutionary route would work (really want the XE!). Had no issues at all with the Desire and would wait to upgrade if there were issues.
Thanks.
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Yep, confirmed working as it's the same HBOOT as the Sensation

EddyOS said:
Yep, confirmed working as it's the same HBOOT as the Sensation
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Very cool. Can't wait to upgrade to this phone. Sensation looked great before, but these latest two (LE screen too big for my tastes) are looking amazing!

Ok guys, thanks for the input. I'll be sure to fill you in if I'm havng any difficulties...I'll try it again today.

I'm also on Tmobile 10 plus years. After following the steps and entering the beta key added the Su zip and it kept s off. You are prop missing something in between. Make sure u are entering the right hboot of your phone otherwise the beta key will be incorrect. Did u set up connection to HTC sync when u did it?
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Ok guys, I tried getting s-off again tonite. Mind you my phone is already rooted but has s-on. I have a custom ROM flashed on it currently, I ran the revolutionary app and it suddenly closed on me and i also got an unforseen FC on the home screen of the phone. I flashed back to my nandroid backup of my stock rooted ROM and still the same thing. Suggestions? I saw on another post I should try doing this on a different computer. I tried different methods of connecting the phone via usb with mounting it as a drive, charge only, htc sync but to no avail. I did have htc sync running and it did sync up properly.

I tot we should uninstall HTC sync .... Only leave the HTC drivers alone ....
Maybe someone can advise on this ....
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flavor76 said:
I tot we should uninstall HTC sync .... Only leave the HTC drivers alone ....
Maybe someone can advise on this ....
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Yes, uninstall HTC sync, leave HTC drivers alone.
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Is there specific drivers I need to install? It doesn't say in the guide.

When u install , then uninstall HTC sync . The HTC sync drivers will be removed but HTC drivers remains . That's the drivers we want to keep. Alternatively , u can just install the HTC drivers. But u got to search for it elsewhere. I think its HTC 3.7.0.01 drivers or something .... ( if I can remember correctly )
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Damn, this whole time I've been putting in a capital I when i should have kept messing around with it and it ended up being a lowercase L lmao. Thanks guys...gonna start flashing **** like crazy now!

Case sensitive ... Nothing new ... Happy flashing ( Roms :b )
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[Q] Can't install ICS OTA on Sensation, Please help!!

Dear XDA-developers, readers and other people!
I have a Sensation (Vodafone NL Branded) with software;
Android Version; 2.3.4
HTC Sense Version; 3.0
Software number; 1.50.162.2
Smallband version; 10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01_M
The phone is S-Off (Revolutionary) but still has stockrom.
Superuser is installed (can not uninstall it).
No i would like to install the OTA update i received from HTC/Vodafone;
3.32.162.11 (302.59MB) - Android 4.0
When downloaded, the phone is preparing to install and restarts.
For a second i see the progressbar and than i only see a droid with an warning sign.
Why can't i install the update?
Please help me.
I have been reading forums for 4 day's and tried things like recovery software, but it did not work.
I am a noob, so please make it in easy language!
Thanks a lot!!!

I'm not sure about the Sensation, but on the Desire when you S-OFF with alpharev, your new hboot is protected. To fix this you have to install an unprotected hboot.

Zhypr said:
I'm not sure about the Sensation, but on the Desire when you S-OFF with alpharev, your new hboot is protected. To fix this you have to install an unprotected hboot.
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How can i install een unprotected hboot?
Thanks!
Frank

Firstly and most importantly if you have Su installed you are rooted you can not install ota updates whilst you have a rooted handset
The only thing you can do is download the official stock European ruu here
http://db.tt/OWcAvh1S
Follow this thread to change your cid to unbranded one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16140388
Connect your phone to your pc make sure USB debugging is enabled and follow the on screen instructions this will remove root from your phone but it will remain S-off
Once installed you can check for updates and install ICS
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Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538032
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leenpol said:
Read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538032
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Working on it!
Thanks!

Root and flash a custum ROM. I'm using ARHD 6.6.1. No problems at all. Running smooth.
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At the OP, do you have the stock recovery or a custom recovery lime Clockwork Mod Recovery? If you have a custom recovery then tho sis why you can not install the official update. You must have the stock recovery.

FranksterZ said:
Dear XDA-developers, readers and other people!
I have a Sensation (Vodafone NL Branded) with software;
Android Version; 2.3.4
HTC Sense Version; 3.0
Software number; 1.50.162.2
Smallband version; 10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01_M
The phone is S-Off (Revolutionary) but still has stockrom.
Superuser is installed (can not uninstall it).
No i would like to install the OTA update i received from HTC/Vodafone;
3.32.162.11 (302.59MB) - Android 4.0
When downloaded, the phone is preparing to install and restarts.
For a second i see the progressbar and than i only see a droid with an warning sign.
Why can't i install the update?
Please help me.
I have been reading forums for 4 day's and tried things like recovery software, but it did not work.
I am a noob, so please make it in easy language!
Thanks a lot!!!
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Frank, so you have S-OFF and are rooted but still on a stock ROM. Do you have a custom recovery installed, like ClockworkMod or 4EXT? If you do, then you need to go back to stock recovery in order to be able to install OTA updates.
You also havent mentioned if you are receiving any error/warning messages during installation of the update. Knowing what you're seeing on the screen could help in determining a specific course of action.

Hi Guys!
I have installed a unbranded (stock) Rom and after that my Sensation didn't find ICS OTA.
So i downloaded the ICS Rom from XDA and installed.
So i'm on ICS now, but will not receive stock updates OTA.
And not on my stock rom, because i didn't make a backup
Thanks all!

FranksterZ said:
Hi Guys!
I have installed a unbranded (stock) Rom and after that my Sensation didn't find ICS OTA.
So i downloaded the ICS Rom from XDA and installed.
So i'm on ICS now, but will not receive stock updates OTA.
And not on my stock rom, because i didn't make a backup
Thanks all!
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You can download the official RUU of the stock ROM for your Sensation and then connect your Sensation to your computer and run the RUU. Go to here to download the RUU. I suggest you download the one that says " RUU_Pyramid_Vodafone_IT_1.45.165.1_Radio_10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.0" as it looks like it is the most recent RUU. You will probably have to do a OTA to get back to the 1.50.162.2 ROM you was on. Remember this though the RUU will make your Sensation S-on again so you will have to S-off your Sensation again after you have installed the OTA back to the 1.50.162.2 ROM. If you do not and you flash the ICS OTA then it will change your Hboot and Revelutionary is not compatible with that Hboot yet.
Edit: If the RUU I suggested is not the right region for you, I think it is for Italy, then look at the other four Vodafone RUUs. Two of them are for France, one is for Germany, and one is for the UK. But you may have to do more than one OTA to get back to the 1.50.162.2 ROM so you can get the ICS OTA if you have to use any of those RUUs

How to Avoid a Bricked htc sensation unit.

Hi guys!
I bought my unit last december2011 and had it rooted and flashed the bulletproof rom.
I'm thinking of upgrading the software by using the official htc ics upgrade.
My questions are :
1. Is it possible to install the update even with the rom i'm using, bulletproof.
2. If i did download and install, is there a possibility that may device will be bricked?
3. If my unit got bricked, will the shop where i bought my unit knew that i had it rooted if i am to claim that it had been bricked because of the ics update that i installed, to get it replaced?
Hope you could help me on this.
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anonymous0612 said:
Hi guys!
I bought my unit last december2011 and had it rooted and flashed the bulletproof rom.
I'm thinking of upgrading the software by using the official htc ics upgrade.
My questions are :
1. Is it possible to install the update even with the rom i'm using, bulletproof.
2. If i did download and install, is there a possibility that may device will be bricked?
3. If my unit got bricked, will the shop where i bought my unit knew that i had it rooted if i am to claim that it had been bricked because of the ics update that i installed, to get it replaced?
Hope you could help me on this.
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1. You could try, just by searching for a update in settings, about phone, system update.
2. THe device wouldn't brick, but assuming you have s-off it would probably wipe that. And at the moment you can't s-off hboot 1.27.0000 which the ICS firmware updates it to. So your limited to the amount of custom roms you can install. But if your just looking for stock ics you'll be fine
3. Depends on the shop.
Hope I helped!

Zd0s said:
1. You could try, just by searching for a update in settings, about phone, system update.
2. THe device wouldn't brick, but assuming you have s-off it would probably wipe that. And at the moment you can't s-off hboot 1.27.0000 which the ICS firmware updates it to. So your limited to the amount of custom roms you can install. But if your just looking for stock ics you'll be fine
3. Depends on the shop.
Hope I helped!
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Hi Zdos!
Thank you for this. Now i feel a lot better. I'm still waiting for the official htc ics update to be released in the Philippines but was afraid to try it because of the possibility of bricking my device. I've watched one video earlier wherein the guy's sensation xe got bricked because he tried installing the official ics update on his rooted device.
I'm not that techie but i love my sensation xe, helps me on my work. Still got lost in the technical terms in the thred though.
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anonymous0612 said:
Hi Zdos!
Thank you for this. Now i feel a lot better. I'm still waiting for the official htc ics update to be released in the Philippines but was afraid to try it because of the possibility of bricking my device. I've watched one video earlier wherein the guy's sensation xe got bricked because he tried installing the official ics update on his rooted device.
I'm not that techie but i love my sensation xe, helps me on my work. Still got lost in the technical terms in the thred though.
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Maybe to be on the safe side install the gingerbread stock rom, you are more likely to get the update quicker as well. Just hit the thanks button! Happy to help

Zdos,
This is actually the details of the rom that i installed.
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anonymous0612 said:
Zdos,
This is actually the details of the rom that i installed.
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Ok,
I'm not sure if the update will come through to your rom. So I think you should look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21711154#post21711154 follow the instructions, and you will have a Sensation XE with ICS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 is probably the best rom to use.

Zd0s said:
Ok,
I'm not sure if the update will come through to your rom. So I think you should look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21711154#post21711154 follow the instructions, and you will have a Sensation XE with ICS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 is probably the best rom to use.
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Okay. Been reading most of the thread here and thinking of just flashing the latest ARHD Rom. Almost all are comments are positive. I'm still noob in flashing. Given my current rom details above, how would i flash ARHD?
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anonymous0612 said:
Okay. Been reading most of the thread here and thinking of just flashing the latest ARHD Rom. Almost all are comments are positive. I'm still noob in flashing. Given my current rom details above, how would i flash ARHD?
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Those details won't suffice to determine what you need for flashing ARHD ...
As you are running custom Rom I can say that you are soff...but to be sure can you post a screen shot of your bootloader that would be pretty helpful.
Also post your cid ...this you can get it by fastboot command
"fastboot getvar cid"
(Assuming you have fastboot/adb setup)
Also there is the best noob proof guide for flashing ARHD...chk that then you can flash any custom Rom easily
Here is the link to guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
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ganeshp said:
Those details won't suffice to determine what you need for flashing ARHD ...
As you are running custom Rom I can say that you are soff...but to be sure can you post a screen shot of your bootloader that would be pretty helpful.
Also post your cid ...this you can get it by fastboot command
"fastboot getvar cid"
(Assuming you have fastboot/adb setup)
Also there is the best noob proof guide for flashing ARHD...chk that then you can flash any custom Rom easily
Here is the link to guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
sent from my blazing fast pyramid through sonic waves
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I'll try flashing arhd tonight. Im already s-off, rooted supercid and i have Clockwork. what are the chances that i'd get my device bricked? do i just flashed the firmware then the arhd rom?

No chance to get bricked I think, THAT'S the right wax, just follow the guide and be happy. :thumbup:
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kHinsch said:
No chance to get bricked I think, THAT'S the right wax, just follow the guide and be happy. :thumbup:
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Currently doing backup through 4ext. wish me luck brother. i'll update you later.

do i have to make a titanium backup of all user and system apps or just the user apps?

If there are some settings in system apps u want yo backup like mail , take system as well, if u only need savegames of games, take user apps
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kHinsch said:
If there are some settings in system apps u want yo backup like mail , take system as well, if u only need savegames of games, take user apps
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How could i delete my previous back up? can i just delete it in the titanium backup folder in the sd card then make a back up of only the user apps?

anonymous0612 said:
How could i delete my previous back up? can i just delete it in the titanium backup folder in the sd card then make a back up of only the user apps?
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If there's no option in titanium backup(don't use it atm) , its okay to delete it only on sd card
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You can't install official ota ics update with custom Rom. It must be stock Rom with stock recovery.
Soff will stay same after update so not important you don't need to s-on to get ics.
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had done everything the thread says but the device keeps on flashing the htc logo with the white screen. what am i to do next? I'm on panic mode.

How long does it stay there? 5-10 minutes are normal at First flashing.
@ two Posts above: he wants to Flash arhd
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kHinsch said:
How long does it stay there? 5-10 minutes are normal at First flashing.
@ two Posts above: he wants to Flash arhd
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I have yet to flash the ARHD zip file. after i updated the firmware, i tried to open the phone to delete the file but the device did not go through the normal booting process, instead it just keep rebooting after the logo flashes. any ideas why?

These are bootloops.. Which file did you want to remove ? Did you really installed the 3.32 firmware before flashing the rom?

I know this might be asked before but i cant find it. firmware/super wipe

Guys I see a lot of roms that tells you what firmware is recommended but it dowsnt show you on how to know which firmware you have.
I recently got this phone sensation 4g from tmous. came with ICS.
I rooted it, s-off it, and hboot 1.27.1111
how can i know what firmware do I have? and I guess I need to be on 1.33
and another question is anybody still using super wipes in here? seems like the more ics roms dont tells you that you need to do a super wipe
and can I still use superwipe when flashing new roms?

gypsy214 said:
Guys I see a lot of roms that tells you what firmware is recommended but it dowsnt show you on how to know which firmware you have.
I recently got this phone sensation 4g from tmous. came with ICS.
I rooted it, s-off it, and hboot 1.27.1111
how can i know what firmware do I have? and I guess I need to be on 1.33
and another question is anybody still using super wipes in here? seems like the more ics roms dont tells you that you need to do a super wipe
and can I still use superwipe when flashing new roms?
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Their is a firmware thread that gives all the firmwares with unlocked bootloaders. Also a rom will state if you should super wipe or not. But as a rule of thumb do not super wipe when installing a aosp or aokp rom. Only sense roms seem to be compatible.
Also since you have ics as stock It would be safe to assume you have the 3.32 firmware as this is what is linked in most if the s-off guides I believe.
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Terepin said:
Let me get this straight: You managed, on your own, to root and S-OFF your phone, and yet you can't find info about firmware version. Tell me you're joking.
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I tried to go to bootloader and it wont say it, I'm running viper s maybe that is why I cant see it.

heavy_metal_man said:
Their is a firmware thread that gives all the firmwares with unlocked bootloaders. Also a rom will state if you should super wipe or not. But as a rule of thumb do not super wipe when installing a aosp or aokp rom. Only sense roms seem to be compatible.
Also since you have ics as stock It would be safe to assume you have the 3.32 firmware as this is what is linked in most if the s-off guides I believe.
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so the 3.32 is based on stock ICS for the sensation 4g then why some says to update to 3.33

gypsy214 said:
so the 3.32 is based on stock ICS for the sensation 4g then why some says to update to 3.33
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Because 3.33 is the newest firmware and what some devs recommend for there roms. Even though 3.32 is the same as 3.33. So if you have 3.32 your ok.The only real difference is the radio. So if you just update your radio. You should be fine.

you can update to 3.33 but right now you dont have to. eventually maybe. setting > about phone will also tell you firmware version on phone, or maybe just the firmware of the rom, not sure. If you read the firmware thread then you will understand firmware and settings and not make a mistake. end up with reboots or tac nyan or some ****.

Xx12thANG3LxX said:
Even though 3.32 is the same as 3.33.
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New kernel, GPU drivers, radio and RIL are hardly "the same".
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gypsy214 said:
I tried to go to bootloader and it wont say it, I'm running viper s maybe that is why I cant see it.
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Finding out the firmware version is one of the most basic information you need to know. Hint: Bootloader has nothing to do with it.
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What he's trying to tell you is if you get to your boot loader (by pulling battery putting battery back in pressing volume down and power at the same time) the information about your device will be there...if you want to upgrade to 3.33 you flash the v pg58img file. You put on root of sd card boot into boot loader the way I showed you then it will ask to update press power for yes. Then DELETE the file! If you don't delete it it will continuously try to update. That's all there is to it. Hope I've helped.if so press thank you. Have fun updating.
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Terepin said:
New kernel, GPU drivers, radio and RIL are hardly "the same".
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Oh huge changes there!!!! Wow I must flash now!! Big update. My phones probably gonna fly away. It will be so fast and so much better with this new firmware. I can't wait!!!! Thanks bro!!!

Well thanks a lot guys. I seen the firmware thread and read about how to install and all that. all i wanted to know is to make sure witch firmware i have, and like i am running viper s sense 4 on settings/about phone did not tell me anything about what firmware i had not even bootloader, but just to be on the safe side im gonna flash the newest 3.33

gypsy214 said:
Hey dude this is the second post you made on my thread nothing but being a smart a$$. People like you makes me sick. FYI there is a report button on xda!!!
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Don't worry about him lol. He's one of the funniest guys on XDA when you take his grumpiness lightly. I don't call him Grumpy Terepin for nothing.
He's always got a point too btw.

[Q] Why S-off?

Hello guy's
I have been searching on xda and google, but did not find a clear answer for my question. I know that S-off allows you to do anything to your phone, and i read 'Alpharev'.
I have unlocked my bootloader, flashed the recovery and rooted my Sensation Hboot 1.27.. using the Hasoon All in one toolkit.
The phone is still s-on and i flashed cyanagenmod 9. All working.
The question is: Wat difference does it make when i make my phone s-off? Is it meaningfull to do it?
I am just a noob on this territory, so is it usefull for me to doe the ('risky') wire-trick to S-off my phone?
Thank you!

malcoe said:
Hello guy's
I have been searching on xda and google, but did not find a clear answer for my question. I know that S-off allows you to do anything to your phone, and i read 'Alpharev'.
I have unlocked my bootloader, flashed the recovery and rooted my Sensation Hboot 1.27.. using the Hasoon All in one toolkit.
The phone is still s-on and i flashed cyanagenmod 9. All working.
The question is: Wat difference does it make when i make my phone s-off? Is it meaningfull to do it?
I am just a noob on this territory, so is it usefull for me to doe the ('risky') wire-trick to S-off my phone?
Thank you!
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Hi,
S-off will enable you to flash different firmwares and radios,and any RUU.
Until you NEED to do any of those things,you are OK on s-on.

What the post above says, there's really no need to unless you're gonna be messing with radios, different firmware, cid, and stuff like that
Enviado desde mi HTC Sensation 4G

Okay, thank you very much!
Could you maybe tell me what I can do with that stuff? What does it mean and what are the benefits?

malcoe said:
Okay, thank you very much!
Could you maybe tell me what I can do with that stuff? What does it mean and what are the benefits?
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super cid you can flash any firmware region, but it is not required for your device's own firmware.. firmware upgrades are sometimes a must when flashing different roms (like going from gb to ics or vice versa) if you are already on ics I really don't think it's a benefit to upgrade to another ics firmware if yours works fine.. and you can flash different radios that might improve signal and better reception (results vary so only real way to know is to try one yourself) hope that was clear, that's as far as I know
Enviado desde mi HTC Sensation 4G

Like above post says, basically you have more freedom to do what you want with s off. Also flashing involves less steps with soff. I'm s off and I'm glad I did it. I can change radios firmwares, with ease.
sent from HTC sensation, soff, 3.33 firmware, viper Rom, sense 4.1, mugen battery. please press thanks if I helped in anyway.

serio22 said:
super cid you can flash any firmware region, but it is not required for your device's own firmware.. firmware upgrades are sometimes a must when flashing different roms (like going from gb to ics or vice versa) if you are already on ics I really don't think it's a benefit to upgrade to another ics firmware if yours works fine.. and you can flash different radios that might improve signal and better reception (results vary so only real way to know is to try one yourself) hope that was clear, that's as far as I know
Enviado desde mi HTC Sensation 4G
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realsis said:
Like above post says, basically you have more freedom to do what you want with s off. Also flashing involves less steps with soff. I'm s off and I'm glad I did it. I can change radios firmwares, with ease.
sent from HTC sensation, soff, 3.33 firmware, viper Rom, sense 4.1, mugen battery. please press thanks if I helped in anyway.
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Thanks!
I flashed Miui but i was stuck on the Mi-logo when the phone was booting (I could not fix it). Then I flashed Cyanogenmod 9, but here i can't get my contacts back wich I placed on my SIM and Google account, pretty anoying..
Could this be a problem because I'm not S-off?
I realy liked Cyanogenmod 9 and Miui seems nice too, but ik can't get it work properly

This thread might help you. Have a look at it! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861

malcoe said:
Thanks!
I flashed Miui but i was stuck on the Mi-logo when the phone was booting (I could not fix it). Then I flashed Cyanogenmod 9, but here i can't get my contacts back wich I placed on my SIM and Google account, pretty anoying..
Could this be a problem because I'm not S-off?
I realy liked Cyanogenmod 9 and Miui seems nice too, but ik can't get it work properly
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Nope has nothing to do with not being soff. Did you flash the gapps addon for cm9?
For MIUI confirm which firmware version you need to run it (could be why)
Sent from my Sensation in UrQuan subspace

If you`re are an enthusiastic user i recommend to be S-OFF`ed.

matekaneve said:
This thread might help you. Have a look at it! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
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I had already seen that guide, I did the same steps, but with the all in one toolkit by Rasoon.
Kohr-Ah said:
Nope has nothing to do with not being soff. Did you flash the gapps addon for cm9?
For MIUI confirm which firmware version you need to run it (could be why)
Sent from my Sensation in UrQuan subspace
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Yes i had allready flashed the Google apps. I now got it fixed by getting back to stock rom and synced the contacts once more.
But the strange thing is that CM9 still keeps saying: 'No contacts on SIM'.
For the firmware, I do not know which firmware is needed. Is it so that I need a ICS rom?, or must I look at the number, 3.33...
Thanks for all your help!
Edit: I know I need a ICS rom, flashing for instance gb is impossible without flashing firmware.. but must the numbers match?

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razvanwin95 said:
If you`re are an enthusiastic user i recommend to be S-OFF`ed.
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I think it's all great, but I some terms and actions are a little over my head, so I don't excactly understand what the things mean when I'm s-off.
I'm totally new to the rooting and flashing, but I think it's fun to do.
For instance: What is Supercid/cid and RUU excactly?

malcoe said:
I had already seen that guide, I did the same steps, but with the all in one toolkit by Rasoon.
Yes i had allready flashed the Google apps. I now got it fixed by getting back to stock rom and synced the contacts once more.
But the strange thing is that CM9 still keeps saying: 'No contacts on SIM'.
For the firmware, I do not know which firmware is needed. Is it so that I need a ICS rom?, or must I look at the number, 3.33...
Thanks for all your help!
Edit: I know I need a ICS rom, flashing for instance gb is impossible without flashing firmware.. but must the numbers match?
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Well depends. I know some Miui 3.33 roms run awful on 3.32. Makes no sense as 3.33 was literally radio related update.
Otherwise yeah they should mat h. 3.32/3.33 seem to be backward compatible though.
SIM part though that is a new one to me
Sent from my Sensation in UrQuan subspace