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Ok, I was watching tv and a commercial came up for the Galaxy SGS II and it showed it was available for at&t among other carriers. Is this true?
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Its available on all 4 major carriers.. AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile. The sprint one is the epic touch and has a bigger screen amongst other things, and the T-Mobile one has a slightly less strong CPU as the others.
Correct me if I'm wrong guys
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In the US right?
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Yes.
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I went on a at&t website and I can't find it for purchase.
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It's releasing on October 2nd
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Oh snap.... thanks!
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Not Verizon - Verizon is getting the nexus prime, I believe, but not a straight up galaxy s2 model.
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^ you're right, all the Major US carrier is getting it except Verizon.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Its available on all 4 major carriers.. AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile. The sprint one is the epic touch and has a bigger screen amongst other things, and the T-Mobile one has a slightly less strong CPU as the others.
Correct me if I'm wrong guys
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T-Mobile and sprint have boosted CPUs to 1.5 ghz. And 4.5 inch screen. At&ts version is identical to original sgs2 other than the home button
Official release date is October 2nd on AT&T
And apparently Verizon is holding out for the new nexus device with ICS. And won't feature the sgsII
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Thegodfather156 said:
T-Mobile and sprint have boosted CPUs to 1.5 ghz. And 4.5 inch screen. At&ts version is identical to original sgs2 other than the home button
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No. Sprint Epic 4G Touch has the same processor as the AT&T version, 1.2 GHz Exynos. T-Mo version has 1.5 GHz Snapdragon processor. Exynos is touted to be a much better processor, so the difference between the two may not be much. We'll need to see benchmarks first.
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T-Mobile and sprint have boosted CPUs to 1.5 ghz. And 4.5 inch screen. At&ts version is identical to original sgs2 other than the home button
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Yea sprint model has the same processor as att.
And tmoble model is getting snapdragon because Samsung does not have the capacity to produce enough exynos processors for all the phones they plan to ship this year, so they contracted Qualcomm to produce the chips for the rest of the phones.
So its not a matter of boosting the chips so much, but what is available for which customer. And Samsung believes their exynos 1.2 to actually be better than the snapdragon 1.5. But we will have to wait and see.
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I read that the change in processor actually has to do with compatibility with the t mobiles upgraded hspa+ network.
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Yea sprint model has the same processor as att.
And tmoble model is getting snapdragon because Samsung does not have the capacity to produce enough exynos processors for all the phones they plan to ship this year, so they contracted Qualcomm to produce the chips for the rest of the phones.
So its not a matter of boosting the chips so much, but what is available for which customer. And Samsung believes their exynos 1.2 to actually be better than the snapdragon 1.5. But we will have to wait and see.
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I read that the change in processor actually has to do with compatibility with the t mobiles upgraded hspa+ network.
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That doesn't make sense to me. Its like saying you need a engine in your car just to ride on the carpool lane. Out of curiosity, which processor is cheaper to produce?
My local BB started taking pre-orders for the ATT SGS II on 9/22. I went by the store today and they don't have one single preorder. I'm just gonna call Friday and Saturday and see if they have it
Kinda interesting I thought this phone had some buzz, maybe just here on XDA, but oh well. Maybe it'll just make it easier to get one
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No. Sprint Epic 4G Touch has the same processor as the AT&T version, 1.2 GHz Exynos. T-Mo version has 1.5 GHz Snapdragon processor. Exynos is touted to be a much better processor, so the difference between the two may not be much. We'll need to see benchmarks first.
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i stand corrected. i am also to see the performance of the exynos
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That doesn't make sense to me. Its like saying you need a engine in your car just to ride on the carpool lane. Out of curiosity, which processor is cheaper to produce?
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http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/96267-how-samsungs-chip-change-up-affects-the-t-mobile-galaxy-s2
"By dropping Exynos in favor of Qualcomm, T-Mobile is getting a version of the Galaxy S2 with a 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon application processor, and probably a separate 42Mbps MDM8220 modem. Qualcomm usually integrates cellular connectivity as part of the SoC (these are the QSD series chips), so this is a special case in order to reach those higher theoretical speeds."
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http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/96267-how-samsungs-chip-change-up-affects-the-t-mobile-galaxy-s2
"By dropping Exynos in favor of Qualcomm, T-Mobile is getting a version of the Galaxy S2 with a 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon application processor, and probably a separate 42Mbps MDM8220 modem. Qualcomm usually integrates cellular connectivity as part of the SoC (these are the QSD series chips), so this is a special case in order to reach those higher theoretical speeds."
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ok. i learned something today. I appreciate the lesson.
^ Me too.
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+1!!
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Looking forward to my first Android phone and wondering... Will ROMs developed for the One X also work for the XL?
Not sure if I can give up on my ORD from my Windows Mobile days...
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mawoods75 said:
Looking forward to my first Android phone and wondering... Will ROMs developed for the One X also work for the XL?
Not sure if I can give up on my ORD from my Windows Mobile days...
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I really doubt it since the roms and kernels are made for different cpu/gpu's.
Not to mention that roms will have to take in consideration the different radios such as 4g.
So no
Okay. I have to disagree with the idea that they won't.
They may not work directly, but adding LTE and processor support really isn't that hard of a thing to do ( as far as I am aware ). I'm relatively sure at some point, there will be a firmware cooker that will add those automatically to One X roms to make them compatible.
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Okay. I have to disagree with the idea that they won't.
They may not work directly, but adding LTE and processor support really isn't that hard of a thing to do ( as far as I am aware ). I'm relatively sure at some point, there will be a firmware cooker that will add those automatically to One X roms to make them compatible.
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Different processor. The LTE isnt the issue. Its going from an Nvidia quad core 3 to a Qualcomm S4 Krait dual core. Completely different hardware that will require different drivers and paths.
Perhaps there will be a hellraiser package of some sort that will inject the drivers that we need, and be able to use, but the short answer is probably not at this time.
Hellraiser! That's exactly what I had in mind when I was saying what I did. I just couldn't put my finger on it.
However, I do hope a hellraiser kind of thing will released for the two.
Yep, different chipsets...no way they'll be compatible out of the box.
But it's likely that the people making the roms will make a version for both AT&T and International. As they've done w/ a lots of other phone's w/ different chips.
There's probably be a US team member, and a Intl team member working on those parts.
I can only hope.
Thanks!
Thanks for all the responses... Really looking forward to this phone but may hold off just a tad to see how ROM dev goes. I purposely held off on the vivid waiting for some quad core goodness, so I am disappointed that AT&T is not getting the international version. But, I understand why.
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But it's likely that the people making the roms will make a version for both AT&T and International. As they've done w/ a lots of other phone's w/ different chips.
There's probably be a US team member, and a Intl team member working on those parts.
I can only hope.
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All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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I find it slightly nonsensical that people are buying into the quadcore hype when Krait is faster than Tegra 3, clock for clock, core for core.
It bugs the crap out of me... really. That means that just because of that the US is going to lose some major development. and I don't know if that's worth another $300 out of my pocket...
I think people are missing something here, because in actuality development will be split upon two different fronts.
The One X will be an EU/Asia HSPA+ phone, but the One XL will be used internationally, with the only difference between each XL is the radio bands.
It doesn't matter there's still radio differences and processor differences. It's a completely different SoC. That makes it difficult to transpose between devices(I would assume).
I'm thinking the One X will get most of the dev support. One XL has to many strikes out the gate. One XL will probably have a later release date its going to be releaesd to a smaller portion of the world population.
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The problem is that the world is turning LTE into a major clusterfuck of radio bands to support, there's already 4 bands for GSM, 5 bands of WCDMA, and something like 4 bands of LTE in the US alone.
There's definitely a mess of bands in North America.
Verizon: 700 MHz - and their phones are CDMA/LTE dual
AT&T: 700 and AWS - their phones are GSM/HSPA/LTE triple
MetroPCS: 1900 and AWS - their phones are CDMA/LTE dual
Sprint (planned): 1900 including G-Block - their phones will be CDMA/LTE dual, with maybe one CDMA/Wimax/LTE hotspot
Note that the Verizon and AT&T 700 MHz LTE service is on different channels in 700 MHz, so they will not be compatible. Hooray.
Globally, LTE is expected be deployed on 38 different radio bands.
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All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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If you're concerned about the lack of development (and dont care about LTE) this is the way to go. The X and XL will both be popular here at XDA, but for those of you that want the most popular/supported device you might want to think about the One X.
And yes, most One X chefs will eventually whip up an XL version of their build but my guess is it wont be right away..
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Are the people who are getting the X instead of the XL buying it unlocked? Because I would get the X and sacrifice LTE if I can get it for the same price. My contract is over in May so I was going to use my upgrade on this.
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Are the people who are getting the X instead of the XL buying it unlocked? Because I would get the X and sacrifice LTE if I can get it for the same price. My contract is over in May so I was going to use my upgrade on this.
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We will be buying them unlocked. It won't be the same price. The AT&T One X will be at least $549.99 off contract. The lowest price I have seen for the International T3 One X is $675.50 from Negri Electronics.
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We will be buying them unlocked. It won't be the same price. The AT&T One X will be at least $549.99 off contract. The lowest price I have seen for the International T3 One X is $675.50 from Negri Electronics.
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You are right. One XL will be a lot cheaper than the One X. One X want be in the 550.00 range until 3-4 months after release.
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You are right. One XL will be a lot cheaper than the One X. One X want be in the 550.00 range until 3-4 months after release.
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I'd be willing to bet that the AT&T XL will be at least $650 off contract. That's what the Galaxy Note costs, and the XL is a better device.
Can someone please give me help on making my mind up.
Right now I'm using Desire S.
I'm a fan of HTC and on the way for a change.
The One Series comes in 3 handsets
One X
One S
One V
If you have the choice I'd go for the One S, Its a better phone with better processing power than the One V - And in benchmarks the One S even defeats the One X !!
Thats not to say the One V is a bad phone, But obviously with choice, you choose the 'better' one
I wouldn't choose the v. It is a VERY small upgrade from your current phone
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Like Habarug said, the V is just not too much of an upgrade. If you dont want the S or X, then hang on to your Desire for a while.
Between the S and the X, one is not objectively better or worse than the other.
The X is bigger, has a 720HD lcd screen, has more storage.
The S is smaller (and fits better in your hand), has a qHD amoled screen, looks and feels more premium.
Go to a shop and hold them side by side.
Overall performance and feature wise you won't be disappointed with either one.
-Jobo
Yeah I agree the S is better to hold,
I've been reading few posts above n ppl talking abt batt issues. What's with that?
Is it cause the 1.7 GHz is draining more than One X ?
santoshrane said:
Yeah I agree the S is better to hold,
I've been reading few posts above n ppl talking abt batt issues. What's with that?
Is it cause the 1.7 GHz is draining more than One X ?
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I don't know where you're from but in much of the world there are two versions of the One S, popularly referred to as the S3 (1.7GHz) and S4 (1.5GHz) versions based on the Snapdragon branding of the processor. The S4 is far more desirable in all ways if you can get it where you live.
Also the One X is available with different processors depending on where you live. The One S is my pick and a nice piece of kit, try to get the S4 version, there are threads here detailing the differences and which custom ROMs are available for each device.
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Yeah I agree the S is better to hold,
I've been reading few posts above n ppl talking abt batt issues. What's with that?
Is it cause the 1.7 GHz is draining more than One X ?
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Hi,
If I guess correctly, you are from India like me. In India, only the S3 1.7ghz version of one s is being sold, which definately have some battery issues due to older generation processor overclocked.
I'd recommend that if you can get someone to buy the handset from UK or other EU countries where primarily the S4 version is sold (be sure to check version no etc first) that would be better. I got mine from UK few days back and its an S4 version.I'd nt recommend the One S version available in Indian retail store because there is a vast difference between performance and battery life between S3 and S4 versions which cannot be overlooked.
Hope this helps !!!
Thanx dev. I should be in UK next week. So I'm looking for S4 then. I checked in HK and they have S3-1.7 GHz.
What's with One X ? Are there any variants to look for?
Htc one x international and Uk version although comes with a quad core tegra processor there are couple of issues like overheating and wifi which make it less user-friendly for common user, also consider the large size due to bigger screen.
If u use cdma then US sprint network's htc evo 4g lte is the best smartphone in the world right now (yes better than galaxy s3). however for gsm i guess One S would be the better bet considering its premium design and comfortable size.
PS: try to get the black coloured one s. Its the only one which is made using famous micro-arc oxidation method making it super strong.
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agree with azzledazzle ... htc one S is better than one V as the stats differ a lot ...and if ur indian ..if my guess is ryt then better dont go for either HTC one S or X coz they get the obsolete S3 processors which are overclocked and given..my friend has a htc one X he got Overheating probs and the back cover is slightly bulged ... even m using one S but got the T-Mobile one with S4..its way better and no overheating too !!
I'd get the One X if I was you, its really not to hard to hold in one hand, its perfectly fluid and smooth... The screen looks amazing and running CM10 my phone has hardly got warm (Except intensive games such as Asphalt 7) which is to be expected. I've had no build defects or issues. The best reason for me though is how much nicer it looks over the One S (This of course is my subjective opinion) Oh and the ROM development is great!
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Are there processor and performance difference on One X n XL ? I like the One X too, just taking a week more to finalize between S n X
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Are there processor and performance difference on One X n XL ? I like the One X too, just taking a week more to finalize between S n X
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XL is the US version for CDMA and X is the GSM version. XL has the dual core S4 processor which is the same what is on the One S as well. X has quad core Tegra 3 processor. What comes to performance, they are pretty equal so doesn't really matter that much which one you take.
Thanx ppl finally bought a One X. It's big but its nice, after a week or so will go to cfw
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XL is the US version for CDMA and X is the GSM version. XL has the dual core S4 processor which is the same what is on the One S as well. X has quad core Tegra 3 processor. What comes to performance, they are pretty equal so doesn't really matter that much which one you take.
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Errrr. No
One XL is the lte capable version of the One X. The main difference is the processor, it has the dual core S4. The North American carriers (At&t, Rogers, and Telus) market it as the One X to confuse things. All of these carriers have 16gb of storage, like the One S. The Aussie and German versions have 32 gb like the tegra 3 powered version. ALL are gsm/hspa/lte carriers. The only cdma carrier (Sprint) has a new evo, based loosely on the One X but with an S4 processor, and removable battery and expandable sd storage.
Once again, the XL IS NOT a cdma variant, that is the evo series for Sprint only.
Basically:
One X, quad core tegra 3, 32gb storage
One XL, dual core snapdragon S4, with lte, marketed in the U.S. and Canada as the One X!!!!!! 16 or 32gb storage depending on where you live
To confuse things more, Verizon is rumered to release a "One X+" gsm/hspa+ (no lte) quad core tegra 3 clocked at 1.7ghz.
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Paqu1 said:
XL is the US version for CDMA and X is the GSM version. XL has the dual core S4 processor which is the same what is on the One S as well. X has quad core Tegra 3 processor. What comes to performance, they are pretty equal so doesn't really matter that much which one you take.
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Err, no
One XL is the lte capable version, with the dual core S4 as you said. It is marketed as the One X in the U.S. and Canada by at&t, Rogers, and Telus. These carriers only offer a 16gb version. They are all gsm/hspa/lte carriers. Telstra (Australia) and Germany (can't remember the carrier) have a One XL (S4 processor, gsm/hspa/lte) but with 32gb like the One X. Other regions with lte offer the One XL also, but with only 16gb storage like the NAM version.
The One X, is as you said, quad core tegra 3, 32gb storage
The cdma version is offered by Sprint as the Evo series. The latest has the S3 processor, shares the image sense camera, but offers a removable battery and sd card storge.
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Errrr. No
One XL is the lte capable version of the One X. The main difference is the processor, it has the dual core S4. The North American carriers (At&t, Rogers, and Telus) market it as the One X to confuse things. All of these carriers have 16gb of storage, like the One S. The Aussie and German versions have 32 gb like the tegra 3 powered version. ALL are gsm/hspa/lte carriers. The only cdma carrier (Sprint) has a new evo, based loosely on the One X but with an S4 processor, and removable battery and expandable sd storage.
Once again, the XL IS NOT a cdma variant, that is the evo series for Sprint only.
Basically:
One X, quad core tegra 3, 32gb storage
One XL, dual core snapdragon S4, with lte, marketed in the U.S. and Canada as the One X!!!!!! 16 or 32gb storage depending on where you live
To confuse things more, Verizon is rumered to release a "One X+" gsm/hspa+ (no lte) quad core tegra 3 clocked at 1.7ghz.
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Roger that, damn. I thought I had it all figured out how the models were. That sure is confusing.
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I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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deadlocked007 said:
Buy a nexus 4 and then you don't have to choose
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I'm sure a lot of people (including myself) would buy a Nexus 4 if the Play Store wasn't sold out all the time
@OP, I personally have never used LTE, but I can't imagine that it's significantly faster in real-world usage than HSPA+. IMO, you should go for an international SGS3 (assuming they work on T-MO US) and live without that ridiculous carrier branding you Americans are used to .
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I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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You would need one specifically for T-Mobile's LTE network. If you want to buy a T-Mobile LTE-capable phone NOW, you should get the Note 2, which has an LTE chip/antenna inside that is disabled for now. Just like 3G frequencies differ across carriers, so do LTE frequencies. No existing LTE devices on other carriers will work on T-Mobile's LTE. I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.
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I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.
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I don't think so. That's crazy.
The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.
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The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.
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You're wrong on all accounts:
1. The Nexus 4 has slight LTE capabilities on one or two bands, which are used by AT&T, and they're weak because there's no power amp for the antenna. It happens to be left over from the Optimus G because they share the same motherboard, but it was cheaper to leave it on then to make a totally separate assembly line. There is no T-Mobile LTE compatibility in the Nexus 4.
2. The Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile doesn't have LTE. T-Mobile themselves said that they're releasing a new version of the Galaxy S3 with LTE for their network. The Note 2 HOWEVER, has been proven to have an LTE chip hidden inside.
3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.
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3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.
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Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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I never said it was worse. I just said it's not faster. Also to add on yo what you said, the S4 has better battery efficiency. It really depends on what you're looking for.
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Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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P.s. I find a nexus 4 8gb, brand new on Craigslist, but I have to pay $49 to sign on to solavei wireless (uses T-Mobile) should I just get that, pay the month they make me pay up front, then just switch in a T-Mobile card? Solavei is prepaid, so I'm not worried about black listing.
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Nickdroid86 said:
Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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Like said MOST OF THEM WILL NOT. Google first, ask later. The s3's from other networks will not work with the 4g/hspa network because they do not have the antenna for the aws spectrum we use.
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Nickdroid86 said:
Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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No. Only the T-Mobile one will work because it's the only one that supports 1700 MHz (AWS). Most international phones don't support 1700 MHz (T-Mobile is 1700 MHz/2100 MHz), but will work on AT&T's bands (850/1900 MHz). However T-Mobile has been very slowly moving over to the same bands as AT&T, so soon you'll be able to use any AT&T compatible phone on T-Mobile.
I'm probably best off buying the nexus 4
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I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos and plus exynos is good in data rendering and executing. Plus encrypting your work is really fast on exynos even better than intel processors.
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qazibasit said:
I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos
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See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.
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See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.
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Yeah, I have the i9300 and that's the only thing that erks me. We have the more powerful phone, we can modify Samsung ROMs, but we pretty much have (actually stable) nightlies for AOSP/AOKP based ROMs. I would have gone with a US carrier S3 if it wasn't for the S4 Dual. I game heavily (GTA 3/VC, Dead Trigger, NFS:MW, MC4, etc), so I rely on the fastest processor out there. The S4 Dual is capable as a CPU, but the Adreno GPU that comes with it is meh. The 2GB of RAM is just futureproofing and doesn't affect performance. If the US S3's had the S4 Pro (Quad), I'd have bought one. The Note 2 seems enticing but I think it's too big for me.
I bought an htc one a while ago and it was great for a while until I got fed up with htcs boot loader/s-off crap and now I'm thinking I'm gonna buy a Note 3. My only question is, should I get the Qualcomm or exnyos version? Is the octa-core better or is it just a gimmick?
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Also, I'm in the US but want an unlocked version, does this effect what I should get?
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Qualcomm everytime just look at the developement pace on each forum
spitfire2425 said:
I bought an htc one a while ago and it was great for a while until I got fed up with htcs boot loader/s-off crap and now I'm thinking I'm gonna buy a Note 3. My only question is, should I get the Qualcomm or exnyos version? Is the octa-core better or is it just a gimmick?
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Pretty much the same as me (cept I'm in the UK) - The Qualcomm version is LTE capable, where as the exy version is only 3G. - Depending if you buy outright or with carrier will determine which you get I guess? - If you are on a 4G plan then obviously you need the 4G model (Qualcomm)
For US get the N900T version which is the T-Mobile variant. If you use AT&T just get it unlocked. It has full bands support for AT&T and T-Mo. You can flash N9005-based ROMs to remove carrier bloat (which is why mine shows as N9005). It has a fully unlocked bootloader just like the international versions as well. If you get the N9005 it is missing LTE and if you get N900A (AT&T variant) it has a locked bootloader. All of these variants are S800 based.
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Depends what you prefer - benchmarks or real world use.
The octa core S3 is pretty much the top phone on the market for most benchmarks, it is unstoppable.
In real life use, the S800 version is faster, snappier, has NO lag whatsoever, runs all games smoothly, even the top of the range ones, plus has 4k video and 4G LTE.
There is no real reason not to go for S800 when you have the choice.
The N9005 is IMHO a good choice (or any bootloader-unlocked version available in US, as some people already pointed out).
Two other things:
- vast majority (actually all that I know so far) of N9005 carrier-unlocked versions still have a "region-lock" - meaning that there are some restrictions on the SIMs that you can use
- there is also a "knox flag" which tells Samsung that the phone was "software tampered" and apparently that can void your warranty.
You should read more about the above points in the rest of the posts in this Note 3 forum.
Qualcomm ....
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Always Remain Loyal to the Snapdragon.
Well, I'm not a fan boy of Qualcomm but there's no reason to go for exnyos
The situation is simple, for a little bit extra $, you get 4G compatibility as well as working flawlessly on existing 3G / 2G. Whereas exnyos you are limited to 3G / 2G. The processing power is marginally better AND it can do 4k video.
Both versions are snappy enough, i doubt you will find any differences in performance in real life use. I personally own an Octa version which I am happy with "much more than the s4 variant" but if you are located in the US S800 version will suit you better because of the higher data speed. Whereby, in less than one year time they will be both outdated :silly: