Gonna buy Note 3. Which one should I get? - Galaxy Note 3 General

I bought an htc one a while ago and it was great for a while until I got fed up with htcs boot loader/s-off crap and now I'm thinking I'm gonna buy a Note 3. My only question is, should I get the Qualcomm or exnyos version? Is the octa-core better or is it just a gimmick?
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Also, I'm in the US but want an unlocked version, does this effect what I should get?
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Qualcomm everytime just look at the developement pace on each forum

spitfire2425 said:
I bought an htc one a while ago and it was great for a while until I got fed up with htcs boot loader/s-off crap and now I'm thinking I'm gonna buy a Note 3. My only question is, should I get the Qualcomm or exnyos version? Is the octa-core better or is it just a gimmick?
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Pretty much the same as me (cept I'm in the UK) - The Qualcomm version is LTE capable, where as the exy version is only 3G. - Depending if you buy outright or with carrier will determine which you get I guess? - If you are on a 4G plan then obviously you need the 4G model (Qualcomm)

For US get the N900T version which is the T-Mobile variant. If you use AT&T just get it unlocked. It has full bands support for AT&T and T-Mo. You can flash N9005-based ROMs to remove carrier bloat (which is why mine shows as N9005). It has a fully unlocked bootloader just like the international versions as well. If you get the N9005 it is missing LTE and if you get N900A (AT&T variant) it has a locked bootloader. All of these variants are S800 based.
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Depends what you prefer - benchmarks or real world use.
The octa core S3 is pretty much the top phone on the market for most benchmarks, it is unstoppable.
In real life use, the S800 version is faster, snappier, has NO lag whatsoever, runs all games smoothly, even the top of the range ones, plus has 4k video and 4G LTE.
There is no real reason not to go for S800 when you have the choice.

The N9005 is IMHO a good choice (or any bootloader-unlocked version available in US, as some people already pointed out).
Two other things:
- vast majority (actually all that I know so far) of N9005 carrier-unlocked versions still have a "region-lock" - meaning that there are some restrictions on the SIMs that you can use
- there is also a "knox flag" which tells Samsung that the phone was "software tampered" and apparently that can void your warranty.
You should read more about the above points in the rest of the posts in this Note 3 forum.

Qualcomm ....
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Always Remain Loyal to the Snapdragon.

Well, I'm not a fan boy of Qualcomm but there's no reason to go for exnyos
The situation is simple, for a little bit extra $, you get 4G compatibility as well as working flawlessly on existing 3G / 2G. Whereas exnyos you are limited to 3G / 2G. The processing power is marginally better AND it can do 4k video.

Both versions are snappy enough, i doubt you will find any differences in performance in real life use. I personally own an Octa version which I am happy with "much more than the s4 variant" but if you are located in the US S800 version will suit you better because of the higher data speed. Whereby, in less than one year time they will be both outdated :silly:

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Galaxy SGS II commercial

Ok, I was watching tv and a commercial came up for the Galaxy SGS II and it showed it was available for at&t among other carriers. Is this true?
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Its available on all 4 major carriers.. AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile. The sprint one is the epic touch and has a bigger screen amongst other things, and the T-Mobile one has a slightly less strong CPU as the others.
Correct me if I'm wrong guys
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In the US right?
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Yes.
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I went on a at&t website and I can't find it for purchase.
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It's releasing on October 2nd
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Oh snap.... thanks!
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Not Verizon - Verizon is getting the nexus prime, I believe, but not a straight up galaxy s2 model.
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^ you're right, all the Major US carrier is getting it except Verizon.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Its available on all 4 major carriers.. AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile. The sprint one is the epic touch and has a bigger screen amongst other things, and the T-Mobile one has a slightly less strong CPU as the others.
Correct me if I'm wrong guys
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T-Mobile and sprint have boosted CPUs to 1.5 ghz. And 4.5 inch screen. At&ts version is identical to original sgs2 other than the home button
Official release date is October 2nd on AT&T
And apparently Verizon is holding out for the new nexus device with ICS. And won't feature the sgsII
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Thegodfather156 said:
T-Mobile and sprint have boosted CPUs to 1.5 ghz. And 4.5 inch screen. At&ts version is identical to original sgs2 other than the home button
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No. Sprint Epic 4G Touch has the same processor as the AT&T version, 1.2 GHz Exynos. T-Mo version has 1.5 GHz Snapdragon processor. Exynos is touted to be a much better processor, so the difference between the two may not be much. We'll need to see benchmarks first.
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T-Mobile and sprint have boosted CPUs to 1.5 ghz. And 4.5 inch screen. At&ts version is identical to original sgs2 other than the home button
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Yea sprint model has the same processor as att.
And tmoble model is getting snapdragon because Samsung does not have the capacity to produce enough exynos processors for all the phones they plan to ship this year, so they contracted Qualcomm to produce the chips for the rest of the phones.
So its not a matter of boosting the chips so much, but what is available for which customer. And Samsung believes their exynos 1.2 to actually be better than the snapdragon 1.5. But we will have to wait and see.
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I read that the change in processor actually has to do with compatibility with the t mobiles upgraded hspa+ network.
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Yea sprint model has the same processor as att.
And tmoble model is getting snapdragon because Samsung does not have the capacity to produce enough exynos processors for all the phones they plan to ship this year, so they contracted Qualcomm to produce the chips for the rest of the phones.
So its not a matter of boosting the chips so much, but what is available for which customer. And Samsung believes their exynos 1.2 to actually be better than the snapdragon 1.5. But we will have to wait and see.
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I read that the change in processor actually has to do with compatibility with the t mobiles upgraded hspa+ network.
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That doesn't make sense to me. Its like saying you need a engine in your car just to ride on the carpool lane. Out of curiosity, which processor is cheaper to produce?
My local BB started taking pre-orders for the ATT SGS II on 9/22. I went by the store today and they don't have one single preorder. I'm just gonna call Friday and Saturday and see if they have it
Kinda interesting I thought this phone had some buzz, maybe just here on XDA, but oh well. Maybe it'll just make it easier to get one
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No. Sprint Epic 4G Touch has the same processor as the AT&T version, 1.2 GHz Exynos. T-Mo version has 1.5 GHz Snapdragon processor. Exynos is touted to be a much better processor, so the difference between the two may not be much. We'll need to see benchmarks first.
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i stand corrected. i am also to see the performance of the exynos
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That doesn't make sense to me. Its like saying you need a engine in your car just to ride on the carpool lane. Out of curiosity, which processor is cheaper to produce?
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http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/96267-how-samsungs-chip-change-up-affects-the-t-mobile-galaxy-s2
"By dropping Exynos in favor of Qualcomm, T-Mobile is getting a version of the Galaxy S2 with a 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon application processor, and probably a separate 42Mbps MDM8220 modem. Qualcomm usually integrates cellular connectivity as part of the SoC (these are the QSD series chips), so this is a special case in order to reach those higher theoretical speeds."
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http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/96267-how-samsungs-chip-change-up-affects-the-t-mobile-galaxy-s2
"By dropping Exynos in favor of Qualcomm, T-Mobile is getting a version of the Galaxy S2 with a 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon application processor, and probably a separate 42Mbps MDM8220 modem. Qualcomm usually integrates cellular connectivity as part of the SoC (these are the QSD series chips), so this is a special case in order to reach those higher theoretical speeds."
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ok. i learned something today. I appreciate the lesson.
^ Me too.
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[Link]Galaxy Nexus 'confirmed' specs?

http://www.talkandroid.com/65267-fu...xy-nexus-revealed-verizon-exclusive-and-more/
Huge screen. Small battery capacity. I'm sure it feels good in hand.
Edit: please delete if already posted.
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Battery life is probably gonna suck. But what's up with it being a Verizon exclusive? If that's true, that's terrible. It should be unlocked for GSM like the other two nexus phones. Disappointing
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I just don't get the data caps. Seems to me, and I'm no genius, if carriers increase capacity, they could charge for unlimited data. A friend with an iPhone(att) is asking me about Sprint and is this || close to switching to the Nexus S 4G. He told me that he doesnt like that he cant use his device the way its meant to be used because of the 2GB cap. Caps just seem so...2005.
But I digress, I'm anxious to see real world performance on this thing.
malikadnanm said:
Battery life is probably gonna suck. But what's up with it being a Verizon exclusive? If that's true, that's terrible. It should be unlocked for GSM like the other two nexus phones. Disappointing
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There almost undoubtedly will be a GSM version. Do you really think Samsung is going to make a device like this and exclude the rest of the world - when both previous Nexus devices shipped as world phones?
Toss in the "confirmed" specs listing LTE/HSPA depending on carrier and you have your confirmation a GSM version will be produced. How or when it's sold within the US is another question. Verizon may have a launch exclusive, but you will see a GSM version. It's possible it may not be carrier subsidized in the US (I doubt that) or that it may merely be delayed to a later release date.
sprint also seems to be the new tmobile, adopting everything google. i cant imagine the prime not coming to sprint. i may pick up a epic touch to hold me off for a while. that is unless we get a leak of ics. that will hold me off till the prime.
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There almost undoubtedly will be a GSM version. Do you really think Samsung is going to make a device like this and exclude the rest of the world - when both previous Nexus devices shipped as world phones?
Toss in the "confirmed" specs listing LTE/HSPA depending on carrier and you have your confirmation a GSM version will be produced. How or when it's sold within the US is another question. Verizon may have a launch exclusive, but you will see a GSM version. It's possible it may not be carrier subsidized in the US (I doubt that) or that it may merely be delayed to a later release date.
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And its rocking the PowerVR SGX540. Frankly, I wanted the OMAP4470 for the SGX544 and the Dual-channel LPDDR2 memory.
I'm going to be disappointed if the phone is that big.... or maybe its a 4 inch phone like the Nexus S but with a bigger screen to accommodate for having no touch sensitive keys..... I hope that's the case... I don't want a tablet, I want a smartphone.
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Actually, there's also another rumour for the specs of this phone
- dual-core 1.5GHz Exynos
- dual-core PowerVR SGX543MP2
- 8 megapixels camera
- 2,050mAh battery
http://www.gsmarena.com/source_close_to_google_reveals_real_nexus_prime_specs-news-3239.php
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-specs-leak-headed-to-verizon-as-an-exclusi/

Galaxy s 2 T-Mobile or the international vrs?

I'm considering buying this phone outright to replace my vibrant and was wondering wich one I should get...pros/cons.
Never tried the international vers with the exynos processor but the tmobile version is definitely a beast and the data speeds are ridiculous. I would suggest getting the tmo version. Also you would probably be able to get the tmo version cheaper.
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Shortbus-Driver said:
I'm considering buying this phone outright to replace my vibrant and was wondering wich one I should get...pros/cons.
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if you are going to use it in Tmobile, you will need the Hercules version
the international version will not get you 3G in Tmo
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the international version will not get you 3G in Tmo
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I was a little confused about that, are there not any international carriers that use tmobile bands?
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T-Mobile told me that the 3-4g data was compatible and that everything would work fine so long as it is unlocked.
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I was a little confused about that, are there not any international carriers that use tmobile bands?
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Nope, T-Mobile and the Telus version are the only ones that support T-Mobile's 42mbps. The only good I have heard about the International version is that it has a better processor than ours and that the software is free of lag. Our phone has a slight lag, but nothing major. Its hard to explain because our phone feels so fast, but every once in a while you'll get an occasional stutter. That minor issue seems like its just software based so it should be/can be fixed.
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What about our 3g bands?
The exynos processor is a beast. My lady has the att gs2 and its pretty snappy but there's not much noticeable difference. I'm super happy with my gs2 and the snapdragon s3 is no slouch.
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3G and 4G will not work. I just sold my white i9100 because I use T-Mobile. If you've never had the i9100 you'll be fine but if you ever hold them side by side, you'll be sorry you did. The exynos runs circles around ours in real world use. But really, if you're T-Mobile and have never had the i9100 you'll love it.
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Shortbus-Driver said:
T-Mobile told me that the 3-4g data was compatible and that everything would work fine so long as it is unlocked.
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Dont believe them i did some researched and it,s not compatible i love the look of the international and the exnos processor but with no 3G/4G coverage there is no point of getting it
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Dont believe them i did some researched and it,s not compatible i love the look of the international and the exnos processor but with no 3G/4G coverage there is no point of getting it
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I kinda figured that,and is one of the reasons I made this post.....I am curious as to how many different customer service agents I could ask that, and how many different answers I'd get
I strongly suggest the international version. Sure the T-Mo version has a bigger screen and higher data speeds, but the screen also has a lot of issues (manufacturer's fault, there are dark blobs and lines all over the place in gray and black areas), and the data speeds are not going to make much of a difference, trust me, especially if you're in an area with really good service. Plus the Exynos blows Snapdragon out of the water with overall performance, as well as benchmark scores. Plus if anything, it will be much easier to sell.
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Nope, T-Mobile and the Telus version are the only ones that support T-Mobile's 42mbps. The only good I have heard about the International version is that it has a better processor than ours and that the software is free of lag. Our phone has a slight lag, but nothing major. Its hard to explain because our phone feels so fast, but every once in a while you'll get an occasional stutter. That minor issue seems like its just software based so it should be/can be fixed.
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Only touchwiz rom is free of lag since its hardware acceleration gingerbread roms are not hardware accelerated. It's hard to make a single core lag with a proper kernel and software enhancements on gingerbread. Once we get ics it lag will be virtually invisible on all devices.
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Shortbus-Driver said:
T-Mobile told me that the 3-4g data was compatible and that everything would work fine so long as it is unlocked.
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Read this:
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/12/unlo...ing-on-t-mobiles-3g-network-its-true-sort-of/
It looks like T-Mobile are adding support for more frequencies. Does this mean we can maybe use the international model to pick up 3G now?
seanyuan62 said:
Read this:
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/12/unlo...ing-on-t-mobiles-3g-network-its-true-sort-of/
It looks like T-Mobile are adding support for more frequencies. Does this mean we can maybe use the international model to pick up 3G now?
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Its available in very few areas
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It comes down to hardware , the Exynos cannot get TMO 4g speeds it is not capable, but it is a "faster" CPU, so if you want 4g speeds now or in the future the Exynos in the international is not going to work regardless of the frequency.
This is the reason that the TMO version has the Snapdragon.
Get Galaxy Nexus from Verizon instead. I love my TMO SG2 but ICS is so siccckkk on the Nexus and Verizon LTE is no slouch.
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quest4fire said:
Get Galaxy Nexus from Verizon instead. I love my TMO SG2 but ICS is so siccckkk on the Nexus and Verizon LTE is no slouch.
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I would (very heavily) lean towards getting the Pentaband GSM version Galaxy Nexus. It's a world phone AND it can be used on T-Mo's network. Why limit yourself to Verizon??
seanyuan62 said:
Read this:
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/12/unlo...ing-on-t-mobiles-3g-network-its-true-sort-of/
It looks like T-Mobile are adding support for more frequencies. Does this mean we can maybe use the international model to pick up 3G now?
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You mean I can finely pick up my Galaxy Note! YEAH!!
I can leave all you SMALL SCREEN wimps in-da-dust!
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scribbles92 said:
I would (very heavily) lean towards getting the Pentaband GSM version Galaxy Nexus. It's a world phone AND it can be used on T-Mo's network. Why limit yourself to Verizon??
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Good point but you can get the GN on contract with Verizon for $299 but you cant with TMO or AT&T right now. You have to pay full price.
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The T-Mobile GSII if you'll be using T-Mobile. I like the shape of the I9100, too, but no 3G/"4G" is the ultimate dealbreaker especially on a $600+ phone. There is also the GSM Galaxy Nexus which has T-Mobile 3G AND the slightly higher resale value. I wish more OEMs would build phones supporting AWS bands. HTC does this with most of their newer phones. Samsung does so but only at the behest of Google, it seems. Motorola and Sony-Ericsson should follow suit. Didn't mean to go off topic but that's just my $.02...

The variety of galaxy s3's

I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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deadlocked007 said:
Buy a nexus 4 and then you don't have to choose
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I'm sure a lot of people (including myself) would buy a Nexus 4 if the Play Store wasn't sold out all the time
@OP, I personally have never used LTE, but I can't imagine that it's significantly faster in real-world usage than HSPA+. IMO, you should go for an international SGS3 (assuming they work on T-MO US) and live without that ridiculous carrier branding you Americans are used to .
Nickdroid86 said:
I'm looking to buy one to use on T-Mobile prepaid network, since they seem to offer the most data (5gb for $30), which models would fully work on T-Mobile? I know at&t is lte, but T-Mobile is starting an lte thing, so that would be cool. Which can I get without unlocking, if any? And if I have to unlock, is that something I can do myself? I have a decent amount of experience rooting, but this is different. Thank you.
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You would need one specifically for T-Mobile's LTE network. If you want to buy a T-Mobile LTE-capable phone NOW, you should get the Note 2, which has an LTE chip/antenna inside that is disabled for now. Just like 3G frequencies differ across carriers, so do LTE frequencies. No existing LTE devices on other carriers will work on T-Mobile's LTE. I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.
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I believe they're looking to replace their 1700 MHz HSPA+ with LTE but I could be wrong.
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I don't think so. That's crazy.
The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.
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The nexus 4, gs3 and gnote II on tmobile all have deactivated band 4 lte chips so when tmobile gets it those phones will have access to it. I suggest you get the tmobile gs3 because the s4 is faster than the exynos 4 and the extra gig of ram makes a difference.
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You're wrong on all accounts:
1. The Nexus 4 has slight LTE capabilities on one or two bands, which are used by AT&T, and they're weak because there's no power amp for the antenna. It happens to be left over from the Optimus G because they share the same motherboard, but it was cheaper to leave it on then to make a totally separate assembly line. There is no T-Mobile LTE compatibility in the Nexus 4.
2. The Galaxy S3 on T-Mobile doesn't have LTE. T-Mobile themselves said that they're releasing a new version of the Galaxy S3 with LTE for their network. The Note 2 HOWEVER, has been proven to have an LTE chip hidden inside.
3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.
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3. The Snapdragon S4 is not faster than the Exynos 4. I have the i9300, I can tell you this from experience. You can also look up benchmarks online. The GPU in the Snapdragon S4 is junk for gaming, and the processor itself is not faster overall than the S4. It's not all about "Oh the Gigahertz are more on the S4." That's why so many people were disappointed the US version had an inferior processor. Also, the 2GB of RAM doesn't do anything for performance. It's just future-proofing.
Do your research.
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Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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zelendel said:
Just because the s4 is slower on games ( benchmarks are pointless) doesn't mean its worse. Some will not use the exyons at all anymore so there are benifits to using the snapdragon like more developer support
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Indeed, I stick away from exynos (and tegra) because of the lack of developer cooperation from them.
And even though the T-Mobile s3 has an inferior processor on paper, (2 vs 4 cores) remember that it is based loosely on the A15 architecture, which is claimed by ARM to be double the performance of the A9 architecture which is in the exynos 4.
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I never said it was worse. I just said it's not faster. Also to add on yo what you said, the S4 has better battery efficiency. It really depends on what you're looking for.
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Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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Like said MOST OF THEM WILL NOT. Google first, ask later. The s3's from other networks will not work with the 4g/hspa network because they do not have the antenna for the aws spectrum we use.
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Nickdroid86 said:
Thanks for the info guys. So....my question. Will all of the s3's work on T-Mobile hspa+ without being unlocked or?
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No. Only the T-Mobile one will work because it's the only one that supports 1700 MHz (AWS). Most international phones don't support 1700 MHz (T-Mobile is 1700 MHz/2100 MHz), but will work on AT&T's bands (850/1900 MHz). However T-Mobile has been very slowly moving over to the same bands as AT&T, so soon you'll be able to use any AT&T compatible phone on T-Mobile.
I'm probably best off buying the nexus 4
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I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos and plus exynos is good in data rendering and executing. Plus encrypting your work is really fast on exynos even better than intel processors.
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I would go with a samsung processor because games are not the only thing people do on the phone. Soon emulators for various desktop OS will be available on the phone and their will be a phone OS race. So because masses have exynos. Devs will be forced to work things on exynos
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See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.
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See this is where the problem lies. Devs cant work on something without the proper documentation (Which Samsung refuses to release, even after they stated they would.) This is why alot of the CM team has already stated they will not get another samsung device or any device that has this chip in it.
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Yeah, I have the i9300 and that's the only thing that erks me. We have the more powerful phone, we can modify Samsung ROMs, but we pretty much have (actually stable) nightlies for AOSP/AOKP based ROMs. I would have gone with a US carrier S3 if it wasn't for the S4 Dual. I game heavily (GTA 3/VC, Dead Trigger, NFS:MW, MC4, etc), so I rely on the fastest processor out there. The S4 Dual is capable as a CPU, but the Adreno GPU that comes with it is meh. The 2GB of RAM is just futureproofing and doesn't affect performance. If the US S3's had the S4 Pro (Quad), I'd have bought one. The Note 2 seems enticing but I think it's too big for me.

Exynos being crippled?

I understand Exynos doesn't work with US CDMA and that is why the Qualcom versions exist. Is Samsung intentionally crippling it's own CPU to keep things the even? Verizon is EOL on their CDMA network next year really only leaving Sprint. Sprint is the 4th carrier now and only has a 12% market share. Canada is already sunsetting their CDMA too. Sprint has 12% (52 million) market share. Samsung has a 25% of that. At most that's 12 million people and much less since Samsung sales low end phones too.
Kind of silly to have to produce two models to cater to that especially with licensing and the fact that it is their chip.
I ask because I saw a thread suggesting that the camera could shoot much higher speeds on the Exynos, but was software limited.
I just want the best I can get!
Has anyone verified NextRadio and the FM antennae yet?
I'd say there are skeptical things with Qualcomm. They must have some impact on this to sell their chips in the US
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Has anyone verified NextRadio and the FM antennae yet?
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On Snapdragon versions, yes. Exynos versions no (I believe).
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Exynos 9810 has no modem built in, and CDMA compatibility has nothing to do with why the U. S. market gets the Snapdragon. Luckily Snapdragon 845 is a better SOC than the Exynos 9810 and you can rest assured you are not screwed.
This really ticks me off to hear if it is true. I am from Canada and purchased the international version this time because I read so much that bragged the Exynos version was so much faster than the Snapdragon version. Paid a pretty penny for it too! I do like my phone but my ANTUTU scores don't seem to be as good as those running SD SOC's.
Samsung apparently has a marketing agreement with Qualcomm to not sell phones with Exynos in the U.S. Otherwise, Samsung could certainly build Exynos based phones with CDMA support if they wanted to.
Guys,
Enjoy your phones, they are both more or less equal with Exynos being very slightly faster in CPU intensive tasks and Snapdragon being slightly faster in GPU (gaming) related tasks. In real world, this difference is almost unnoticeable. (0.5 to 1 second faster game launch on SD).
The good thing is that Exynos is only going to get better due to unlocked bootloader and open source development that will follow.
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Samsung apparently has a marketing agreement with Qualcomm to not sell phones with Exynos in the U.S. Otherwise, Samsung could certainly build Exynos based phones with CDMA support if they wanted to.
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How long is that in place?
I was pretty sure samsung would not nerf their own processor but now I'm sure they did. We can all claim it is for battery reasons or something, but I believe that it is so that it can be neck and neck with the snapdragon.
These screenshots were taken a few minutes ago, after I flashed a custom kernel and unrestricted the 4 big cores so they are able to hit 2.9ghz and the little ones 2.0ghz. I believe that 2.7ghz is what was running for most of the benchmarks, but it hits 2.9ghz on the CPU scaling Log.
Exynos is, in fact the second best processor on a smartphone right after the A11 and would most likely match it on geekbench (surpasses it on antutu even stock) if I could lock the frequency at 2.9ghz but minimum can only be set to 2.0ghz and so it goes up and down and there is only the stock governor to choose from and that is utter crap.
Any doubts I'll help as best as I can.
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How long is that in place?
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No idea, I'm afraid.

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