Hey guys just like to warn you guys,
Today I put my infinity on the tablet (face down cause I'm stupid) just for a sec, didn't move or slide and when I picked it up it had a scratch on it. I'm really annoyed with myself and hopefully after a few days I won't notice it. But i can see it and its the type of scratch that distorts the pixels a bit. Mind its small but against the rest of the amazing display it can be noticeable. Gorilla Glass 2 is still only scratch resistant and not scratch proof, don't make the same mistake I did.
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Cousie G said:
Hey guys just like to warn you guys,
Today I put my infinity on the tablet (face down cause I'm stupid) just for a sec, didn't move or slide and when I picked it up it had a scratch on it. I'm really annoyed with myself and hopefully after a few days I won't notice it. But i can see it and its the type of scratch that distorts the pixels a bit. Mind its small but against the rest of the amazing display it can be noticeable. Gorilla Glass 2 is still only scratch resistant and not scratch proof, don't make the same mistake I did.
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i would return it and stick it up their ass with this gorilla glass bull****
so many devices i keep reading they get scratched during normal use in real life by real users...put the phone in your pocket, 2 seconds later pull it out and it's scratched...come on, gorilla must've been on lunch break or something...
all those youtube clips of geniuses frantically trying to scratch with car keys whatever phone or tablet w/o success...don't believe it for a second.
Use protective foils!
They have NEVER said it is scratch proof, only that it is chemcially hardened so as to be less prone to scratching and damage. The only thing known to man that is essentially scratch proof is a diamond, and even that can be scratched by another diamond. I ALWAYS put a screen protector on my devices, it not only gives it another layer of scratch protection, it helps protect it from drops, why risk it when screen protectors can be had for a few dollars in change?
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They have NEVER said it is scratch proof, only that it is chemcially hardened so as to be less prone to scratching and damage. The only thing known to man that is essentially scratch proof is a diamond, and even that can be scratched by another diamond. I ALWAYS put a screen protector on my devices, it not only gives it another layer of scratch protection, it helps protect it from drops, why risk it when screen protectors can be had for a few dollars in change?
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Yes it is only scratch resistant, I'm more saying that after showing off their new gorilla glass 2 and how strong and scratch "resistant" it is it only took me on the fourth day of usage to get a scratch by placing the screen face down on a flat surface. Also your right, scratch proof is impossible, but being scratch proof of every day wear and tear is possible. If I get a butcher knife and carve away at the surface of coarse its going to scratch and it's unreasonable for companies to try and protect you from that because most of us don't want a knife any where near our devices. But my screens famous gorilla glass 2 surface shouldn't fail after just normal use (even if it was stupid of me).
I would of gotten a screen protector, but since I live in Australia it wouldn't have reached me in time.
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I would have gotten a screen protector, but since I live in Australia it wouldn't have reached me in time.
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Nobody in Oz sells them?
>tfw you drop your phone from 5 feet over 5 times
>tfw 0 screen damage
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Nobody in Oz sells them?
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Infinity doesn't get released here until next month, I guess I could find a prime one
Just like to add what it says on Corning's front page "Corning Gorilla Glass 2 is as tough and scratch resistant as ever to withstand the unexpected abuses of everyday life." Well it certainly didn't stop mine from getting scratched from the most basic of device abuse.
Never trust anything.
My OG droid had a pretty solid screen, but it also has a very slightly recessed screen due to the metal around the perimeter of the screen. Even that one got scratches but it was abused. Since that phone I haven't and won't trust any of these other devices. Especially if the screen is the part that sticks out the furthest like with the tf700.
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I actually sent an email to corning and this was their response:
Good Day!
We are sorry to hear that you've had a problem with your device. While Corning® Gorilla® Glass is better able to survive the real-world events that most commonly cause glass to scratch, chip or break, no glass is indestructible. We recommend you contact your device manufacturer to review your warranty or repair options.
While Corning does not have a device replacement or repair program, if you find that your device is not covered under a manufacturer or carrier warranty and you are no longer able to use it, our labs do occasionally take noticeably damaged devices for testing. Please confirm the type of device you own and how the screen was damaged and I can confirm with my research colleagues if they’re looking for your type of device.
Please note that not all devices will be selected for testing. After your device has been received, we will send you a $25 American Express e-gift card. Please note that Corning will not repair or return your device and assumes you are in agreement with the terms listed above when we receive the device in the mail.
Thank you
WOOOOT $25 Gift card for a $900 tablet, seems tempting (I'm in Aus)
I dropped mine twice and the girlfriend tried to clean the screen with Ajax and a brillo pad when she poured hot glue on it by accident, while I was at work. I wanted to ring her neck.... but suffice it to say, my lil' baby gorilla survived - - scratch free. Sounds like your baby Gorilla was being a wuss.
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I actually sent an email to corning and this was their response:
Good Day!
We are sorry to hear that you've had a problem with your device. While Corning® Gorilla® Glass is better able to survive the real-world events that most commonly cause glass to scratch, chip or break, no glass is indestructible. We recommend you contact your device manufacturer to review your warranty or repair options.
While Corning does not have a device replacement or repair program, if you find that your device is not covered under a manufacturer or carrier warranty and you are no longer able to use it, our labs do occasionally take noticeably damaged devices for testing. Please confirm the type of device you own and how the screen was damaged and I can confirm with my research colleagues if they’re looking for your type of device.
Please note that not all devices will be selected for testing. After your device has been received, we will send you a $25 American Express e-gift card. Please note that Corning will not repair or return your device and assumes you are in agreement with the terms listed above when we receive the device in the mail.
Thank you
WOOOOT $25 Gift card for a $900 tablet, seems tempting (I'm in Aus)
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cool, you'll afford a screen protector but nothing to apply it on
I had my G2X since it came out and nothing. Had my Infinity for a week and got a scratch. I shipped it back to B&H for a refund cause of wifi issues. Hopefully they don't notice it. I will be buying another one from somewhere else since they don't have anymore.
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I have crushed a few phones running over them. I can't even count all the phones I have had. I have had 6 different tablets. I don't use screen protectors because I don't like my fingers sticking to the screen while sliding my finger. Never have had a scratch but I am very careful and baby them. When mine get hurt it is unusable.
With all that said my Infinity is either in the dock or on my lap. Never have laid it down and is always protected by my keyboard dock. I cleaned the screen 2 days ago and Viola, a scratch. Very small 1/16" . It seems impossible it could happen but it did.
I always would think people don't take care of them for them to get scratched. Not anymore. :crying:
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I dropped mine twice and the girlfriend tried to clean the screen with Ajax and a brillo pad when she poured hot glue on it by accident, while I was at work. I wanted to ring her neck.... but suffice it to say, my lil' baby gorilla survived - - scratch free. Sounds like your baby Gorilla was being a wuss.
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I can imagine your face when she told you that. What was she doing with hot glue anyway
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I think its dirt on the keys that rub on the screen when its closed.
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d14b0ll0s said:
I can imagine your face when she told you that. What was she doing with hot glue anyway
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The girlfriend was watching a "how too" video on YouTube about Arts & Crafts.... With a hot glue gun!
I freaked when she told me. I immediately checked for :smudges and scratch thinking it would be ruined. Couldn't believe it survived an abrasive brilliant pad, an abrasive cleaner and hot glue.... All at the same time.
Now that's a relief! ;> I believe any other scenario could mean losing both the tablet and the girlfriend
This is why I said in the thread about whether to use a SP or not that its crazy not to. It sucks to have a scratched device, but to play the devils advocate here, you seriously placed a tablet screen down. It must have moved some or else a scratch couldnt have formed. If you think about how tiny a grain of salt or sand is, then do the math I bet the pressure per square inch on the scale is immense. Don't get me wrong, I've scratched many screens and have been plenty pissed about it, but I don't thing blaming Corning because you layed a tablet face down is quite fair. These scratch tests are often done with things much much larger then a grain of sand with less pressure then the weight of the tablet.
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The girlfriend was watching a "how too" video on YouTube about Arts & Crafts.... With a hot glue gun!
I freaked when she told me. I immediately checked for :smudges and scratch thinking it would be ruined. Couldn't believe it survived an abrasive brilliant pad, an abrasive cleaner and hot glue.... All at the same time.
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Ah man, i'd be ticked. That's why I take mine to work with me, that and to watch movies and update calender.
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This is why I said in the thread about whether to use a SP or not that its crazy not to. It sucks to have a scratched device, but to play the devils advocate here, you seriously placed a tablet screen down. It must have moved some or else a scratch couldnt have formed. If you think about how tiny a grain of salt or sand is, then do the math I bet the pressure per square inch on the scale is immense. Don't get me wrong, I've scratched many screens and have been plenty pissed about it, but I don't thing blaming Corning because you layed a tablet face down is quite fair. These scratch tests are often done with things much much larger then a grain of sand with less pressure then the weight of the tablet.
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Ah man, i'd be ticked. That's why I take mine to work with me, that and to watch movies and update calender.
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My wife has an Ipad2. Awesome screen. No SP, but it has a case with lid and I take extra care of it, always cleaning it.
I am afraid if I put an SP on my future TF700, it will lessen the quality of the screen, what I mean is dull the picture.
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As an early adopter, I know better than to complain about software issues at launch. That being said, I have my doubts about the quality of the glass in front of this beautiful screen.
I previously owned a Motorola Atrix 4G, which took moderate abuse in the year I owned it for. In that time span, without a screen protector, the screen sustained minimal scratches and were only visible in the right, particularly outdoors in sunlight.
This device, I have owned for about two weeks now, and it has two significant gouges; one at the top where the glass meets the body of the phone, and one at the bottom, not on the screen itself but its significant enough to feel a 'bump' if you run your fingernail over it. Big disappointment coming from the Atrix that never had a scratch you could feel. In daylight, depending on the viewing angle, is covered with dozens of small thin scratches. They don't impact viewing quality of the screen, but simply seeing how much damage the screen has sustained in the first two weeks makes me question how it will be in a year.
I plan on trying the Skinomi screen protectors that claim to 'heal' scratches, the big gouges I can live with but I was wondering if others have noticed this screen seems to be less scratch-resistant than other smartphones?
Mine already has a scratch that can be felt with a fingernail. My Captivate that never had a screen protector is in better shape. Maybe there's an issue here...
My atrix has been abused and screen still looks new with no screen protector. It is now my 20 month old daughters device to watch Disney videos on and the screen is still perfect. The body on the other hand is scratched to hell.
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Are you setting your phones screen down or is this just happening under normal usage?
My Atrix held up fairly well to scratches. I dropped it on concrete a few days before I sold it. The drop resulted in some pretty good scratching.
Had my One X for 3 weeks and I don't think there's a single scratch. Plus it seems to resist fingerprints much better than the trix.
Really, who gives a crap? Go outside, touch a breast, fart in public. Live life. It's just a phone.
I wonder if there aren't issues with Gorilla Glass 2 since it is so new. This is the first production device that uses Gorilla Glass 2.
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Really, who gives a crap? Go outside, touch a breast, fart in public. Live life. It's just a phone.
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Lol this made my day!!!
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roscoejackson said:
Really, who gives a crap? Go outside, touch a breast, fart in public. Live life. It's just a phone.
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Hahahaha
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roscoejackson said:
Really, who gives a crap? Go outside, touch a breast, fart in public. Live life. It's just a phone.
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Mods can close thread now, nothing else needs to be said.
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There's an article somewhere (gizmodo or engadget) of a Chinese video of the HTC employee stress testing the screen of the one x. He uses the screen as a hammer and pounds nails into a wood block. Not a scratch or crack. Go check it out.
Also its just a phone. Of the glass breaks its replaceable. The ttime you spend inside isn't.
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Really, who gives a crap? Go outside, touch a breast, fart in public. Live life. It's just a phone.
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Made my day, too.
Peter
“Who cares about a screen scratching and getting marked?" lol. Usually people who don't have a device long and it gets damaged.
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minor scatch already - but new glass coming
After 2 years with the Captivate (no screen protector - I love the feel of the naked gorilla glass) I was hoping to keep up the good luck. no scratches on my Cappy!!!
Well, I am the proud owner of a gray HOX. I recently had an unfortunate accident (some kid tried to swipe/snatch the phone from my hand and it went flying and skidding on the glass for about 5 feet!!!) and I have a tiny scratch near the bottom toolbar - but I haven't been bothered at all in everyday use, just that first scratch disappoinment!
Ordered a new one for $37 and its on its way. Now I actually plan to wait to replace and use the ever so slightly marred one until I get a few scratches.
We replace an old Iphone glass last year and the replacement made the phone feel brand new again.
Needless to say, my son took off his screen protector on his phone after he found out the cost was insignificant to replace. He prefers the glass and I don't blame him!
The One X has a beautiful screen and glass, it's a shame to cover it with a protector that will get nicked up anyway.
Gorilla Glass is overrated.
Yesterday, I dropped mine completely naked from waist height, watching it flutter to ground in slow-motion like a John Woo flick, landing on the corner of the glass on the sidewalk, and it only has the slightest of scratches on the bezel, completely invisible unless really focused upon. At the time I stared at it, face down on the ground, thinking, "Well, there goes that." Completely expected it to be shattered. Turned it over and couldn't believe it.
So either I got a lucky bounce or it's decently durable.
Case arrived today. Because that's how the universe rolls.
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Ordered a new one for $37 and its on its way. Now I actually plan to wait to replace and use the ever so slightly marred one until I get a few scratches.
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I'm sure I'm not the only one who is interested in finding out where you ordered it from and how difficult it is to replace. Please share? :thumbup:
If you were so concerned about scratches on your screen why didn't you install a protector in the first place?
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I don't put anything over the display. But I do get a case to protect the device. Without doubt my devices would all get damaged and marked if they fell without a case protecting them.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/31/video-two-minutes-of-the-htc-one-x-being-used-as-a-hammer/
Must be alright
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http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/31/video-two-minutes-of-the-htc-one-x-being-used-as-a-hammer/
Must be alright
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At last! I don't need to carry a hammer around with me anymore!
With Gorilla Glass 2 on the Infinity, what is your opinion on placing a screen protector on this device? And if 'Yes,' which one?
I have one on my phone and it has been great, but does a tablet like this warrant a screen protector.
For myself, I plan on having the device in a rooCase when it becomes available.
Thanks for your input.
I had a protector on my NexusOne that has Gorilla V1.
Dumbest idea ever!
I removed it about a year ago. It fell down so many times, no scratches.
Screen is like when I bought it.
I don't think you need a protector with Gorilla anymore.
if you take it on the go a lot - screen protect it
if you have kids - screen protect it
if you like to set it up and down on stands - screen protect it
if you dont have a leather case - screen protect it.
if you just like the awsome smooth feeling of the glass, then leave it naked and touch it all you want
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With Gorilla Glass 2 on the Infinity, what is your opinion on placing a screen protector on this device? And if 'Yes,' which one?
I have one on my phone and it has been great, but does a tablet like this warrant a screen protector.
For myself, I plan on having the device in a rooCase when it becomes available.
Thanks for your input.
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Screen Protectors usually make for a tight fit with docks. You may have to do a little trimming around the docking points depending on the protector you choose.
When I carry it arround the house, I don't need a protector, Gorilla Glass doesn't seem to get scratches easily (nor does the back of my Infinity, despite what some said).
For going out I either take the dock which encloses the screen within the whole thing or I take TranSleeve (originally meant for the Prime), which is helpful for typing or watching media (two standing positions). I don't see a point of having this kind of sleeve for both (although this seems nice: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28593251&postcount=19), although I have bought the cheapest (~$3) neoprene etui/sleeve for 10" netbooks available (somehow they tend to be cheaper than the same products for 10" tablets): http://vegacom.eu/data/gfx/pictures/large/6/6/9566_7.jpg?337768
This is more for suddently-dropping-the-bag-on-the-floor kind of situation than to avoid scratches, but I feel better with these precautions (I also carry a few books in the backpack quite often, so it seems safer to have some kind of cover).
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When I carry it arround the house, I don't need a protector, Gorilla Glass doesn't seem to get scratches easily (nor does the back of my Infinity, despite what some said).
For going out I either take the dock which encloses the screen within the whole thing or I take TranSleeve (originally meant for the Prime), which is helpful for typing or watching media (two standing positions).
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Are we talking screen protectors or cases here? I'm thinking I'm going to grab a slip case for the tablet/dock to just slip it in something light.
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Are we talking screen protectors or cases here? I'm thinking I'm going to grab a slip case for the tablet/dock to just slip it in something light.
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I was answering the question if one should protect the screen with gorilla glass, but ok, good point. I would never use something that would blur the image on the Infinity, but I can understand somebody would want to do it to be able to use the tablet in direct sunlight. But to avoid scratches? Hell no!
You can some brutal things to gorilla glass without scratching it. Most people don't need a screen protector. The huge elephant in the room is dust, which might surprise some folks who don't have to live with much of it. If you live in an especially dusty region, you should seriously consider protecting even a GG2 screen. The glass has not been invented that won't scratch if the right piece of dust gets dragged across it just so. Hammering a nail with an HTC one x is impressive (reference to a youtube vid I saw once), but not the most practical test. Some dust particles are harder than nails, I assure you.
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I was answering the question if one should protect the screen with gorilla glass, but ok, good point. I would never use something that would blur the image on the Infinity, but I can understand somebody would want to do it to be able to use the tablet in direct sunlight. But to avoid scratches? Hell no!
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I don't think I'll put one on mine. It's not gong to get thrown around like my phone does lol. My phone has to have a screen protector...
An anti glare screen protector could be a good idea
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You can some brutal things to gorilla glass without scratching it. Most people don't need a screen protector. The huge elephant in the room is dust, which might surprise some folks who don't have to live with much of it. If you live in an especially dusty region, you should seriously consider protecting even a GG2 screen. The glass has not been invented that won't scratch if the right piece of dust gets dragged across it just so. Hammering a nail with an HTC one x is impressive (reference to a youtube vid I saw once), but not the most practical test. Some dust particles are harder than nails, I assure you.
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Definitely +1 concerning the dust, but concerning the damage reduction potential of Gorilla Glass: when I got my LG Optimus 2x about one and a half years ago, I rubbed the tip of a knife on the screen (Gorilla Glass v1) to and fro in a ballsy whim during a dinner with friends. Turns out it was a bad idea: although I have since upgraded to the SGS2 and the LG is now carried around by my wife, it still bears a nice mark (scratch).
Although, with a probability close to certainty, a normal screen would've been utterly destroyed (I wasn't exactly gentle), the potential for damage is still there and it doesn't even take visceral violence. It is chemically hardened glass, it can take a beating but it is only an extra line of defense.
For the sake of on-topic conversation: I have never used a screen protector on any device I own. I take good care of them and mostly use them eitehr indoors or in a shaded area (inside the train, for example). If you'd need outdoor visibility, consider it. If you have the dock, think about a good sleeve or case (I have bought an relatively cheap leather one on eBay and, although it does add significant bulk, it does a commendable job as far as protection goes).
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You can some brutal things to gorilla glass without scratching it. Most people don't need a screen protector. The huge elephant in the room is dust, which might surprise some folks who don't have to live with much of it. If you live in an especially dusty region, you should seriously consider protecting even a GG2 screen. The glass has not been invented that won't scratch if the right piece of dust gets dragged across it just so. Hammering a nail with an HTC one x is impressive (reference to a youtube vid I saw once), but not the most practical test. Some dust particles are harder than nails, I assure you.
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Dust? Really? Have you seen the Gorilla Glass 2 vendor video? They threw everything at it but the kitchen sink. If dust was ever to be their demise, Gorilla would lose ALL credibility with their product. I'm hardly worried.
I love the "Guerilla" typo, it should be an extra-hardened version! ;D
My post here shows why you'd use a anti-glare film on the TF700T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28362111&postcount=2806
When I got mine I found it was almost impossible to use out on the pattio without the anti-glare film.
The glass is simply a perfect reflector giving very crisp and detailed images of everything around and abowe you overshadowing the data on the screen.
The same issue faces almost all tabs and phones though.
The anti-glare screen does do odd things to the pixels due to the high density, but overall it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28366344&postcount=2815
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Dust? Really? Have you seen the Gorilla Glass 2 vendor video? They threw everything at it but the kitchen sink. If dust was ever to be their demise, Gorilla would lose ALL credibility with their product. I'm hardly worried.
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GG is tough and great, but you underestimate the power of dust.
+1 for an Anti-glare protector. Not for it's "protection" qualities, but for it's anti-glare qualities... I just got my TF700 and the screen is beautiful, but very reflective... Plus the anti-glares help reduce finger prints significantly. Just get a good one - you usually get what you pay for when it comes to anti-glare protectors.
However, I do worry that it may interfere with the screen quality too much on the TF700 though (they usually create some level of "pixelation" effect which may ruin the TF700 "experience" - not sure as I don't have one yet!
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I refer to the effect of anti-glares as the rainbow effect. It acts a little like a prism per pixel, especially noticeable on white screens as you'd expect. Some people just see it as noise. Some don't see it.
I'm undecided about whether or not its worth it. It always has been before (bonus: fewer prints), but I've never had a screen this beautiful before either, and I'm not sure I want to obscure it.
My argument is pretty simple: the Infinity is so pretty I would never want to blemish it with any permanent type of screen protector. And it gets so hot in direct sunlight during summer here anyway that I prefer to stay indoors with it ;>
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My argument is pretty simple: the Infinity is so pretty I would never want to blemish it with any permanent type of screen protector. And it gets so hot in direct sunlight during summer here anyway that I prefer to stay indoors with it ;>
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The screen have too much resistance it grabs the finger.
It's not as smooth to touch on ipad screen, didn't anyone noticed it?
~ not sure WHY there is so much confusion............
Infinity comes with Gorilla GLASS ....>> best best thing since slice bread ...
Like adding a bumper bar to a TANK ..............
IMHO =adding 'protector sticky thing = sounds , looks DUMB , and not to mention COMPLETE WAISTED CASH ....
** send me that 20-40$ pls ** Lol lol
**********peace ********
I backed this Kickstarter for enough to get the bundle with a protector for both the front and back of my Nexus 4 and the front of my Nexus 7. Looks promising to me, anyone else know anything about this?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1081571316/rhino-shield-the-impact-resistant-screen-protector
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that video is making a lot of claims about what their screen protector can do...lol at the hammer part of the video, it looks like he was placing it on the screen. the drop test proved nothing too as they tried drop it flat instead of on an edge not to mention we dont know how many times the phone did break for them to get that shot. In real life situations most of the time when a phone drops it will hit an edge and this is also where the glass is most vulnerable. Screen protectors dont add any protection against drops, you need a case for that.
Wasnt there many screen protectors like this at CES? why not just get one those than risking losing your money on a kickstarter that never gets funded.
Seems like a great product,
21.52 USD for a Front and Back
That's heck of a deal
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Seems like a great product,
21.52 USD for a Front and Back
That's heck of a deal
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You can get a front and back from bestskinsever.com for $7.
http://www.bestskinsever.com/google-nexus-4-skin
I use these on all my devices and they are great!
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Reminds me of the Amzer Shatterproof.
When they mentioned ASTM standards the engineer in me was like..woah.
http://youtu.be/pnqBqPfxnY4
Here's their video dropping bricks on their iphone. I cringe when watching it. At least they show damage to the screen. Makes it more believable.
I have one. It's $40 but I paid $15 with coupon, with a lifetime warranty. So whenever it starts peeling I just pay shipping to get a replacement.
EDIT: Here's their hammer test.
http://youtu.be/Hsxl1bRTldo
Why kickstart something where someone else already makes it?
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that video is making a lot of claims about what their screen protector can do...lol at the hammer part of the video, it looks like he was placing it on the screen. the drop test proved nothing too as they tried drop it flat instead of on an edge not to mention we dont know how many times the phone did break for them to get that shot. In real life situations most of the time when a phone drops it will hit an edge and this is also where the glass is most vulnerable. Screen protectors dont add any protection against drops, you need a case for that.
Wasnt there many screen protectors like this at CES? why not just get one those than risking losing your money on a kickstarter that never gets funded.
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Are you sure you watched the entire video?
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Are you sure you watched the entire video?
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nope, i was just saying their drop test is misleading, but just went back and check out the rest of it. I assume you are referring to the "scientific" ball bearing drop. How is a steel ball dropping on a phone anything like a real life drop. Even their scientific test is misleading they should of put a cheap competitor screen protector instead of naked glass to prove that their screen protector is so much better.
I dont doubt that putting a layer of plastic over a screen makes it stronger against an impact at the center of the glass panel but this is not where a phone hits when it falls. Edges are weakest on glass screens, edges are where phones first hit when they are drop on a flat surface since screen protectors do not protect edges they do not protect against drops...If you dont believe me just search drop test on youtube and you will see that the vast majority if them break from the corner or edge.
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nope, i was just saying their drop test is misleading, but just went back and check out the rest of it. I assume you are referring to the "scientific" ball bearing drop. How is a steel ball dropping on a phone anything like a real life drop. Even their scientific test is misleading they should of put a cheap competitor screen protector instead of naked glass to prove that their screen protector is so much better.
I dont doubt that putting a layer of plastic over a screen makes it stronger against an impact at the center of the glass panel but this is not where a phone hits when it falls. Edges are weakest on glass screens, edges are where phones first hit when they are drop on a flat surface since screen protectors do not protect edges they do not protect against drops...If you dont believe me just search drop test on youtube and you will see that the vast majority if them break from the corner or edge.
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You should take your threadcrapping general anger at screen protectors out on some other thread. Nobody here is some poor fool who needs you to clarify the physics of phone breakage. It's clear what they're selling, the question is whether it's better than tempered glass or something else. Some of us work in places where the environment itself is a hazard and who can use this sort of thing because an otterbox defender type case may not be enough.
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You should take your threadcrapping general anger at screen protectors out on some other thread. Nobody here is some poor fool who needs you to clarify the physics of phone breakage. It's clear what they're selling, the question is whether it's better than tempered glass or something else. Some of us work in places where the environment itself is a hazard and who can use this sort of thing because an otterbox defender type case may not be enough.
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i dont have anything against screen protector just them claiming their screen protector protects against drops...If the question is if it is better against other protectors they should of tested it against other protectors.
Just backed this. Wish it receives 100% funding before the end date.
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You can get a front and back from bestskinsever.com for $7.
http://www.bestskinsever.com/google-nexus-4-skin
I use these on all my devices and they are great!
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If you had read their campaign, you wouldn't post this Rhino is not a regular screen proctector.
PcFish said:
Reminds me of the Amzer Shatterproof.
Why kickstart something where someone else already makes it?
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Why not?
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Why kickstart something where someone else already makes it?
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You realize that by that if the tech community thought that way practically nothing we use today would exist including smart phones and even computers or any kind of clothing or automobile or nearly anything after the fifth century?
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Reminds me of the Amzer Shatterproof.
When they mentioned ASTM standards the engineer in me was like..woah.
http://youtu.be/pnqBqPfxnY4
Here's their video dropping bricks on their iphone. I cringe when watching it. At least they show damage to the screen. Makes it more believable.
I have one. It's $40 but I paid $15 with coupon, with a lifetime warranty. So whenever it starts peeling I just pay shipping to get a replacement.
EDIT: Here's their hammer test.
http://youtu.be/Hsxl1bRTldo
Why kickstart something where someone else already makes it?
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Actually I might have thought about Amzer...until I read the comments on their brick youtube video.
Backed this for the front + back covers... really hope they succeed.
Also ordered a Best Skins Ever for the time being...
I backed them for the combo pledge as well.
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i dont have anything against screen protector just them claiming their screen protector protects against drops...If the question is if it is better against other protectors they should of tested it against other protectors.
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nope, i was just saying their drop test is misleading, but just went back and check out the rest of it. I assume you are referring to the "scientific" ball bearing drop. How is a steel ball dropping on a phone anything like a real life drop. Even their scientific test is misleading they should of put a cheap competitor screen protector instead of naked glass to prove that their screen protector is so much better.
I dont doubt that putting a layer of plastic over a screen makes it stronger against an impact at the center of the glass panel but this is not where a phone hits when it falls. Edges are weakest on glass screens, edges are where phones first hit when they are drop on a flat surface since screen protectors do not protect edges they do not protect against drops...If you dont believe me just search drop test on youtube and you will see that the vast majority if them break from the corner or edge.
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No where did they claim that its a magical solution that will protect against all types of drops.
Here is their official reply about it.
Evolutive Labs says:
Hi,
Thanks for the interest
It all really depends on the orientation of the drops, if the first point of contact is protect by Rhino Shield i.e. land it on the face, then the screen would be fine. In another scenario, i.e. facedown but tilt, if the tilt angle is less than 30% (horizon is 0 degree), there is very high chance of survival rate. above this angle, the frame and casing plays more important role.
There will be FAQ upload soon.
Many thanks
Eric
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Backed
Just pledged 16 Pounds for front and back proctectors of my yet unarrived nexus 4. Hope they get to their goal
Looks interesting, ill probably back it.
I emailed them asking how much of the nexus 4 screen the rhino actually covers, I assume its like any dry SP that won't cover all of the screen but I just want confirmation before I pledge.
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You should take your threadcrapping general anger at screen protectors out on some other thread. Nobody here is some poor fool who needs you to clarify the physics of phone breakage. It's clear what they're selling, the question is whether it's better than tempered glass or something else. Some of us work in places where the environment itself is a hazard and who can use this sort of thing because an otterbox defender type case may not be enough.
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You need to relax and get your own anger checked. Neo is 100% right. This project is full of bs. As I stated in reddit thread
" This seems very sketchy as some one who worked in a research lab for 3 years the way they portray their data is not convincing in the video. 1.) Main reason.. After they banged on the glass with the magical screen protector they simply removed it.. Instead of then banging on the screen without a screen protector to show us that the screen can in fact break. They did this on all the occasions. Even the ball drop on the screen shows one screen breaking into a million pieces while the undamaged screen simply has its protector removed instead of a follow up test with another ball drop.
2.) Gorilla glass becomes more and more brittle as the hardness increases. Its main function is to prevent scratching. Thus a direct force can probably break the glass. I dont see how a screen protector can dissipate the energy from a force and leave the screen undamaged.
I call bull on this Rhino shield product. I'm no expert in the realm of screen protectors but no way can a thin layer of plastic with different layers protect your screen from shattering. Best it can do is prevent the debris from flying everywhere."
Unless these guys present their data better I'm calling bs on this chunk of plastic.
I got a reply for my question about how much of the screen the Rhino covers, here is their reply.
Hi Marco,
Thanks so much for the support!!!
first drop protection,
the drop protection all really depends on the orientation of the drops, if the first point of contact is protect by Rhino Shield i.e. land it on the face, then the screen would be fine. In another scenario, i.e. facedown but tilt, if the tilt angle is less than 30% (horizon is 0 degree), there is very high chance of survival rate. above this angle, the frame and casing plays more important role.
The fitting for nexus 4 would only cover the flat surface at the moment, we are trying very hard to try to get the curve covered as well.
We are waiting for a new batch of prototype being produced and also the tool being made (nexus 4 require different tool from all others phone because of the curvature).
Many Thanks
I bought my Asus Padfone 2 a week ago when it was just launched in Jakarta, Indonesia (which happen to be where I live). The product is so new that there isn't any accessories for Padfone 2 yet, not a cases, sleeves, not even a screen protector.
However, one of Asus representative has pointed out that the sleeve will be ready within mid-April. And as for the screen protector, he told me I don't need one since Padfone 2 is already covered with gorilla glass. He was so convinced that no matter what I'd do with my phone I wouldn't even close in hurting the screen. I need to know whether is this statement true, I want the best protection for phone.
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No thats BS. Gorilla Glass is scratch resistant, NOT scratch proof
So it means that it is still a good idea to use a screen protector?
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It scratches, my galaxy note 2 has a nice 0.7cm scratch on it
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Anggrian said:
So it means that it is still a good idea to use a screen protector?
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Screen protector for phone is definitely needed as there is no total scratch proof screen in the market right now.
Its always better to have your screen protected with any sort of screenguard.. if it gets scratched u replace that screenguard and its shiny again until it got scratched pretty badly
Take my opinion. Don't use screen protectors. They are gonna hold back the screen from showing it's complete potential ( the colors, touch sensitivity, blah blah) unless the screen protector you use is exceptionally good.
I have been using ma phone without any screen protector for more than a year now. No scratch, Noffin. ( gorilla glass can handle em)
But if you have the screen scratching against stuff like keys ( while in pocket) or somethin , consider putting one.
Or You could get a flip cover to protect it.
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It's not scratch proof. Sand is harder than it so even a single grain in your pocket can scratch your screen (as all the little edge scratches on my One X's gorilla glass screen can attest to).
On the other hand, even my keys can't scratch it.
Coming up on three years my Samsung Galaxy S' gorilla glass 1 hasn't seen a single scratch.
You won't need it if you just get used to some simple ways of using it.
Don't stuff your pockets with stuff, a bank card can lock a grain of sand between it and the phone, a pocket itself won't do that.
Don't put your phone face down on most surfaces.
Stuff like that.
I tried a screen protector, it sucked, had to rip it off, violently and with a vengeance.
I've never been particularly careful with my phone, but I have some very basic habits that probably helps.
The sides of my phone is banged up btw, I've manhandled it quite a lot, and the camera glass is far from pristine, just goes to show the side you put it down etc matters a lot.
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Hr Kristian said:
Coming up on three years my Samsung Galaxy S' gorilla glass 1 hasn't seen a single scratch.
You won't need it if you just get used to some simple ways of using it.
Don't stuff your pockets with stuff, a bank card can lock a grain of sand between it and the phone, a pocket itself won't do that.
Don't put your phone face down on most surfaces.
Stuff like that.
I tried a screen protector, it sucked, had to rip it off, violently and with a vengeance.
I've never been particularly careful with my phone, but I have some very basic habits that probably helps.
The sides of my phone is banged up btw, I've manhandled it quite a lot, and the camera glass is far from pristine, just goes to show the side you put it down etc matters a lot.
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+1 to this. Sand is pretty much the only (common) material that can scratch gorilla glass. I haven't used a screen protector on any of my gorilla glass equipped devices in years, and not a single one has a scratch. Granted, I'm pretty careful with my gadgets, but I keep my razr maxx in the same pocket as my keys every day without so much as a hairline scratch. Here's a good thread for some additional info on gorilla glass:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866049
So far nothing had scratched it, including two cats. But I do keep it in a wallet top type case when it's in my pocket.
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It require screen guard just to prevent scratches
Gorilla glass is meant for rough use
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It has been almost 2 years and haven't had a single scratch on my i777 'cuz I have the "screen protector" on.
I'm using kitchen shrink wrap (from Costco if anyone interest), wrap it around the phone, anytime I need to use, I just un-wrap it and when I'm done, I re-wrap it
I stuck the tape and put a cover, because it often drops the phone. I think, no GorillaGlass could not bear it.
I would not use a screen protector even if you paid me... (well, maybe, depending on HOW MUCH )
I tried it on my wife's phones and my two daughters' phones, and I was never able to place the protector without air bubbles underneath. And I cannot stand them. Even without bubbles, they lower the screen readability and clarity.
I think that protectors make sense only for people with particular ways of handling their phones. I always keep my phone in the same pocket, never put anything else there, and I never had a scratch. My wife, though, is able to scratch any phone in her handbag, even with a flip cover or a case on it, as she keeps it with keys, coins and everything else she is able to carry with her. No Gorilla Glass helped her phones, either
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It has been almost 2 years and haven't had a single scratch on my i777 'cuz I have the "screen protector" on.
I'm using kitchen shrink wrap (from Costco if anyone interest), wrap it around the phone, anytime I need to use, I just un-wrap it and when I'm done, I re-wrap it
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Kitchen wrap!?
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I would not use a screen protector even if you paid me... (well, maybe, depending on HOW MUCH )
I tried it on my wife's phones and my two daughters' phones, and I was never able to place the protector without air bubbles underneath. And I cannot stand them. Even without bubbles, they lower the screen readability and clarity.
I think that protectors make sense only for people with particular ways of handling their phones. I always keep my phone in the same pocket, never put anything else there, and I never had a scratch. My wife, though, is able to scratch any phone in her handbag, even with a flip cover or a case on it, as she keeps it with keys, coins and everything else she is able to carry with her. No Gorilla Glass helped her phones, either
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Lol, thats funny.
I would put a screen protector on it. I have had a couple phones with Gorilla Glass and have scratched them. While nice resistance to scratches it still happens if your not careful.
Every phone I have ever seen with Gorilla Glass and Gorilla Glass 2 have had scratches (when not using screen protector).
I get that it is scratch resistant, but I personally never use a phone without a screen protector.
As for bubbles, I use the matte ones and never get bubbles. I have one on my Nexus 4 right now and it still looks as vibrant and awesome as ever with no bubbles or anything.
I have a tablet with a GG screen that I got used from a friend and there are a number of session scratches or it - they don't bother me too much, especially now that I've put a screen protector on it, but if it's a device I buy new I would definitely have one on from the start (like I have with my phone and others).
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Hr Kristian said:
Coming up on three years my Samsung Galaxy S' gorilla glass 1 hasn't seen a single scratch.
You won't need it if you just get used to some simple ways of using it.
Don't stuff your pockets with stuff, a bank card can lock a grain of sand between it and the phone, a pocket itself won't do that.
Don't put your phone face down on most surfaces.
Stuff like that.
I tried a screen protector, it sucked, had to rip it off, violently and with a vengeance.
I've never been particularly careful with my phone, but I have some very basic habits that probably helps.
The sides of my phone is banged up btw, I've manhandled it quite a lot, and the camera glass is far from pristine, just goes to show the side you put it down etc matters a lot.
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I don't care who says what, from what I've experienced GG1 is much more scratch proof that GG2. Like you, my SGS 1's screen which is now my back up phone, is flawless. The thing is an utter tank and I believe I'd have to really work to put a scratch on it. Yet I've had 3 other phones since with GG2 and every single one of them has gotten scratched from simply being in my pocket.
IMO, GG2 sucks.
lol i was reluctant to post this but our options are not looking good so far. Has anyone tried this? I wouldn't mind applying it often if needed but i always wondered if this works. I have seen what some think about it but im asking those that have actually tried it and have experience with it.
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lol i was reluctant to post this but our options are not looking good so far. Has anyone tried this? I wouldn't mind applying it often if needed but i always wondered if this works. I have seen what some think about it but im asking those that have actually tried it and have experience with it.
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I had it on my Nexus 6 and it worked great
why dont options look good?
I been using skinomi protectors screen the note egde. they work great and stick very well to the edge. havent had any edges pull up.
There also very clear and easy wet install.
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why dont options look good?
I been using skinomi protectors screen the note egde. they work great and stick very well to the edge. havent had any edges pull up.
There also very clear and easy wet install.
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Honestly, they feel like straight tacky rubber. They also affect the clarity in my opinion.
Hum i havent had that problem. I used my s7 edge without a protector for a wk til the skinomi came in. Once instal, after a day or 2 didnt even know i had it on.
But to each there own, you know.
has anyone done a crash test for these??
I've never used a screen protector on my previous phones (Note 2 / Note 4) and have never had any issues with scratches. I always have my phone in my pocket, though I always place it with the screen facing my thigh to avoid any accidental damage to the screen from outside and I never place keys in the same pocket.
When inspecting my note 4 after 2 years of use I can only see a few very fine hairline surface scratches that are basically only visible under very close scrutiny, under specific light and with the screen tilted at a specific angle - so generally speaking, my note 4 screen is still flawless after 2 years of use.
Now the scratch resistance of GG5 glass in the now infamous video of note 7 does trouble me as does the lack of good screen protectors which cover the whole screen without having to deal with drawbacks such as rainbow effects, hollow clicking, loss of sensitivity, peeling of corners etc.
Therefore, I'm also considering the liquid solution from Kristall for my preordered Note 7 in hopes that it could help prevent scratching of the glass on the device. I couldn't care less about the improved shatter-resistance of the GG5, as I do have an insurance plan that would cover an accident, but so far I have yet to shatter a screen on any of my phones.
So I'm planning to use the Note 7 as is, without ugly covers or screenprotectors, but would using something like Kristall liquid screen protector be able to improve my chances of not scratching up the glass? Does anyone have any insight / personal experience / references to tests that show its effectiveness in regards to scratches? (Not in regards to shatter resistance)
I have always been curious about these. I would love to see a video demonstrating the effectiveness.
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I've never used a screen protector on my previous phones (Note 2 / Note 4) and have never had any issues with scratches. I always have my phone in my pocket, though I always place it with the screen facing my thigh to avoid any accidental damage to the screen from outside and I never place keys in the same pocket.
When inspecting my note 4 after 2 years of use I can only see a few very fine hairline surface scratches that are basically only visible under very close scrutiny, under specific light and with the screen tilted at a specific angle - so generally speaking, my note 4 screen is still flawless after 2 years of use.
Now the scratch resistance of GG5 glass in the now infamous video of note 7 does trouble me as does the lack of good screen protectors which cover the whole screen without having to deal with drawbacks such as rainbow effects, hollow clicking, loss of sensitivity, peeling of corners etc.
Therefore, I'm also considering the liquid solution from Kristall for my preordered Note 7 in hopes that it could help prevent scratching of the glass on the device. I couldn't care less about the improved shatter-resistance of the GG5, as I do have an insurance plan that would cover an accident, but so far I have yet to shatter a screen on any of my phones.
So I'm planning to use the Note 7 as is, without ugly covers or screenprotectors, but would using something like Kristall liquid screen protector be able to improve my chances of not scratching up the glass? Does anyone have any insight / personal experience / references to tests that show its effectiveness in regards to scratches? (Not in regards to shatter resistance)
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I do I had it on my Nexus 6and I never got one scratch on my phone I even dropped it on the concrete one time nothing
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I do I had it on my Nexus 6and I never got one scratch on my phone I even dropped it on the concrete one time nothing
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The Nexus 6 uses Gorilla Glass 3 though, which is even more scratch resistant than gorilla glass 4 (but more prone to shattering). I wish they would go back to using GG3 to be honest.
They should use Sapphire since we're paying so much for this damn phone
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What phone has that sapphire screen? I think it's one of them Droid phones?
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Maybe JerryRigEverything will do a test on them to see if they do anything. I asked him on Twitter. Maybe he will check them out.
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Maybe JerryRigEverything will do a test on them to see if they do anything. I asked him on Twitter. Maybe he will check them out.
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Something like applying the liquid solution to half of the screen of note 7 and then using the picks to scratch both sides would be awesome and would really show if this stuff has an effect?
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Maybe JerryRigEverything will do a test on them to see if they do anything. I asked him on Twitter. Maybe he will check them out.
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Yes that would be the way to go TBH.
These treatments may prevent stuff from abrading the oleophobic coating but they aren't going to prevent scratches in the glass itself. Also if it truly is a persistent coating, it's going to change how your fingers slide across the screen. It could be for the better or for the worse. If it's the latter, I wonder how hard it would be to remove?
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Yes that would be the way to go TBH.
These treatments may prevent stuff from abrading the oleophobic coating but they aren't going to prevent scratches in the glass itself. Also if it truly is a persistent coating, it's going to change how your fingers slide across the screen. It could be for the better or for the worse. If it's the latter, I wonder how hard it would be to remove?
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From what I've read online, the feeling was slightly different to naked glass, but not "bad different". Also the screen is supposedly gettimg a little more gloss /shine with this.
As I understand, the coating mostly covers/fills the microscopic pores on the surface of the glass, so I'm guessing that it'd still feel smooth?
As for removing the coating - no idea
I think I'm gonna try it out on my note 7 when I receive it (gotta wait till the 9th of September)...
I'll post back regarding my experience, but since I'm not gonna attempt to scratch up my new device on purpose, I probably won't be able to say anything regarding the effectiveness of the added scratch resistance as opposed to not using the solution...
I'd still love to see a proper test from JerryRigsEverything though!
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GG5 is garbage.
I noticed today in direct sunlight that I have quite a few faint scratches. You can't see them when the screen is on and the scratches are only visible at certain angles.
But considering its only been a week and this phone costs as much as a laptop that's unacceptable.
Well from what i found, a note 7 screen replacement will cost $250(for the new screen itself) lol i would have ordered one and tried this liquid screen protector stuff but damn that lol
I did some Google-Fu and found this thread. Like others have said, what good is screen protection you can't remove if it gets messed up?
Staples employees rant about it.
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I did some Google-Fu and found this thread. Like others have said, what good is screen protection you can't remove if it gets messed up?
Staples employees rant about it.
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This is just what i found on this particular one
No, liquid screen protector does not work. Have seen reviews in my local forums that scratches occur after.
Also, I've just made experiment by putting on car coating material (aquartz t-cera) on my tablet's screen,
3 layers with a day of curing for each layer, 2x application per layer .. and after days of curing,
tried rubbing small piece of sand/dry cement to the screen glass (non gorilla),, and tadaaa, scratches !
so, No ... liquid stuff doesn't work for me.