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I love the phone in everyway...but...Im disappointed with the screen. I had a Fascinate before it, and while everything about it sucked, the screen was beautiful! I guess i got spoiled with the amoled. Whats everyone elses opinion here. Im contemplating returning it, hoping the bionic has a better screen.
yeah, the Thunderbolt's screen doesn't even come close to the Fascinate. I had the two side-by-side last night and the difference especially at max brightness was quite noticeable. I also noticed that angry birds isn't as smooth and fluid on the Bolt as the Fascinate but other than that, the Thunderbolt easily outdoes the Fascinate.
I guess the amoled screens are too expensive to manufacture. I will not even consider the stealth from sammy. I have given up with them as a cellphone manufacturer...the fasc is STILL running eclair...A big FAIL on sammies end.
At least we wont get screen burn in's like amoled gets.
i went from an iPhone 4 to an evo, so dropped resoultion going to a bigger screen, and actually thought it looked great, to then this phone, and I have to say, the screen on this phone for me is fantastic. I think it is maybe a little to warm sometimes, as when showing flesh tones, but I would assume that like for the evo, we will be able to change that over time.
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I guess the amoled screens are too expensive to manufacture. I will not even consider the stealth from sammy. I have given up with them as a cellphone manufacturer...the fasc is STILL running eclair...A big FAIL on sammies end.
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cant really blame samsung. verizon is the final say and they usally are slow to approve/disapprove any updates. just like their phone releases
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cant really blame samsung. verizon is the final say and they usally are slow to approve/disapprove any updates. just like their phone releases
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no, this happens among all the carriers. Samsung is the slowest cell phone MFG to release updates for their current phone models. Unless the list changed, and I would have to go find it on engadget, HTC was the highest, and above samsung by a good deal.
I know what you mean coming from the Incredible. But I've gotten used to the slcd just don't look at your other for a while. I think its pointless to look for perfection especially on a phone screen. You'd need a color calibrated broadcast monitor for perfection. One thing i noticed is the slcd is much better in direct sunlight. So a little less brightness and clarity keeping in mind I can't really notice at normal viewing distances and the fact that you can see the screen outside seems like an ok trade off. (Yes if you hold it really close to your eyes and study it you can but... Just my thoughts on it.
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i went from an iPhone 4 to an evo, so dropped resoultion going to a bigger screen, and actually thought it looked great, to then this phone, and I have to say, the screen on this phone for me is fantastic. I think it is maybe a little to warm sometimes, as when showing flesh tones, but I would assume that like for the evo, we will be able to change that over time.
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Went out for a walk yesterday w/the Bolt using Cardio Trainer, my god it was impossible to see the screen in the sun ... didn't feel like trying to tweak settings, make brighter, etc., while I was on the move - but will do so next time before I start the run just in case I want to see where I'm at.
I definitely notice a difference between the AMOLED Incredible (my wife's phone, formerly mine) and the TB. The colors are off - too brilliant in the wrong way. Blues are purplish and Reds are off too. Its even worse when comparing to the iPhone, which is what I have been carrying lately. Not happy with it - the crispness of the iPhone makes this look blown out. As my wife said "It's like the iPhone is HD and the Thunderbolt is SD." The additional real estate is nice, but definitely prefer the Inc AMOLED and the iPhone Retina.
Ooof.
Wonder if Verizon will follow suit with Sprint. An LTE Nexus S would be money.
Its not like its your living room featured TV. You guys must have some superb vision or something, but I am satisfied, but some people you cant just please.
Beggars can't be choosers. Either go with a company who don't update your software ever or go with one that does. Most important to me with my phone is properly functioning software.
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Wonder if Verizon will follow suit with Sprint. An LTE Nexus S would be money.
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No...its gonna be the samsung stealth.
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Its not like its your living room featured TV. You guys must have some superb vision or something, but I am satisfied, but some people you cant just please.
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I don't personally do video/photo editing on my phone or watch movies, which is the only reasons I could think of a screen truly mattering. I have the DROID Incredible currently w/ the AMOLED and well generally I can't really tell any functional difference between it and the Thunderbolt screen I played with in a Verizon store after ordering one for myself (arrives tomorrow).
I am a bit of a video/audiophile but only on things like my TV & computer monitors, but can't see why it'd matter for such a small screen either.
Has anyone had any experience w/ the Thunderbolt in direct sunlight? I can't see anything on my Incredible when it's in the sun. I could at least get a vague idea w/ my old iPhone 3G... which I find a more important factor than the color quality/pixel density on a phone.
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Its not like its your living room featured TV. You guys must have some superb vision or something, but I am satisfied, but some people you cant just please.
Beggars can't be choosers. Either go with a company who don't update your software ever or go with one that does. Most important to me with my phone is properly functioning software.
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I get what you are saying, but your cavalier dismissal ignores the fact that other devices exist that have superior quality. Its not like I am wishing for something ideal that isnt possible. One might expect that when paying top dollar for a "flagship" device you would get some good quality hardware. Not saying the device is flawed, just that the screen definitely isnt as good as phones that came a year before it.
As for properly functioning software, I doubt you could argue that this is functioning perfectly - maybe for you it is and maybe my experiences are anecdotal but I and my coworker are experiencing random reboots, problems with calendar sync, and data transfer problems where you have to reboot to resume connection. I will also volunteer that our Verizon rep said she is seeing very high return rates on the Thunderbolt due to software issues. Again, maybe anecdotal and maybe "some people you just can't please" but sometimes good enough isnt enough in the face of alternatives that work better out of the gate.
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I love the phone in everyway...but...Im disappointed with the screen. I had a Fascinate before it, and while everything about it sucked, the screen was beautiful! I guess i got spoiled with the amoled. Whats everyone elses opinion here. Im contemplating returning it, hoping the bionic has a better screen.
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The amoiled screen has a amazing color saturation; however the low subpixel count makes text look very pixelated. I much prefer the slcd screen for viewing web pages. Makes the small text so much clearer. I had the Nexus S prior to this phone and I think the Thunderbolt is much nicer overall, including the display (for my usage).
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I love the phone in everyway...but...Im disappointed with the screen. I had a Fascinate before it, and while everything about it sucked, the screen was beautiful! I guess i got spoiled with the amoled. Whats everyone elses opinion here. Im contemplating returning it, hoping the bionic has a better screen.
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The bionic will have a better qhd screen but if it is like the atrix then it I'd using the pentile matrix and will more than likely look even more "fuzzy" than the bolt. Do a Google search for arstechnica pentile matrix they have a great article on it and after using super lcd on my incredible (I had the amoled version as well and the nexus one) I much prefer the super lcd to any amoled with pentile. Plus the bionic won't even have the better colors like amoled. That is a big fail on motorola for making their first qhd screens pentile. I have to believe the screen on the thunderbolt will have to look better.
OK, there is definately major variences between screens on different phones. I just got a replacement for a dead speaker, and well...the screen has much more contrast, and does not wash out much at an angle. Im suprised to see such a difference between the 2.
I actually love this screen. I came from the Nexus One AMOLED screen and I prefer the TBolt. The screen is brighter on the Tbolt and the colors are just ever so slightly less saturated than the AMOLED which is actually a good thing in some cases(movies and skin tones)
I'm with you, I miss the blacks of my amoled dinc.
Sammy,
I have to say that I'm thoroughly, thoroughly disappointed in your decision not to give the Galaxy Note a Super AMOLED Plus display. At this point, I feel like I'm settling with the Galaxy S II. It seems as though you device manufacturers consistently release something new and spectacular, but ::whoops:: wait... decide, "Let's not make it too good. Who'll want to upgrade when we add that one little thing we've excluded?" I find it disgusting, personally. [Update] Also, although this may be an issue of personal preference, I feel as though you should've continued to use the standard Android 4-button layout (with dedicated camera button), a las the US Galaxy S II variants... That is all.
kain144000
[Update] I would also like to voice my discontent regarding the Sprint version of the Galaxy S II's lack of NFC. What could possibly be the reason for this absurd hardware subtraction? Inquiring minds would like to know...
Same here punch in the stomach. I always thought it did re read it and was mortified
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I feel feel the same way, I was like oh my god this thing is flippin awesome than as soon as I saw it was gonna be the original samoled I was like screw this. Its plus or nothing. I hate pentile with a passion. I don't know why they use it, I feel like the power saving features are outweighed by the pixelation it comes with...
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I feel feel the same way, I was like oh my god this thing is flippin awesome than as soon as I saw it was gonna be the original samoled I was like screw this. Its plus or nothing. I hate pentile with a passion. I don't know why they use it, I feel like the power saving features are outweighed by the pixelation it comes with...
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The galaxy S 2 has a much lower pixel density than the note (as does the galaxy tab 7.7).
It's very likely they can't manufacture the plus at a 283 dpi density. It's pretty understandable...
If they physically can't manufacture it, then I can understand, but if its a choice they made to say cut costs or something, I say most people would be fine with paying the extra but for the plus.
IMO the people that really care about the Plus are tech enthusiasts, not the average consumer.
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That's not to say I wouldn't love for it to be Plus though
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IMO the people that really care about the Plus are tech enthusiasts, not the average consumer.
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I have to say, a lot of my friends and family, which you can definitely consider average consumers, love the screen on the infuse and they consider it the best screen on any smartphone. So I would have to say that a good number of average consumers can see the difference and like it.
Well side by side there is a difference. I'm just saying saying if I asked someone on the street what's the difference between S Amoled and S Amoled +, I'm sure a lot of people couldn't explain the difference.
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OK, Samsung sucks!
All phones come with crappy GPS!
forever cannot lock signal!
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Well side by side there is a difference. I'm just saying saying if I asked someone on the street what's the difference between S Amoled and S Amoled +, I'm sure a lot of people couldn't explain the difference.
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Yea that is true, I guess the added "HD" to the Super AMOLED branding would take the place of the "Plus" and people wouldn't notice. But I'm gonna bet that at AT&T stores (if it comes out on AT&T) they are not gonna place the Infuse and Note side by side.
I tend to agree. It's really only the enthusiasts who care. You're average consumer will notice the side by side difference, but they wont seek out (or not seek out) a phone purely based on the resolution. They're much more likely to get a phone with a low res 7 inch screen, than a 4 inch high res screen simply because 7>4, but it's not immediately obvious that WXGA > qHD.
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I have to say, a lot of my friends and family, which you can definitely consider average consumers, love the screen on the infuse and they consider it the best screen on any smartphone. So I would have to say that a good number of average consumers can see the difference and like it.
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I have to agree. I have a Focus with the regular SAMOLED and had an Infuse. The difference is night and day. SAMOLED looks like the stitching of denim and SAMOLED+ is clean, smooth and pixel-free.
Then what is the reason they are calling it the Super AMOLED HD? And if it's only 800x500 why are they calling it 1280x800? Is there a technical loop hole they are using?
And isn't 281dpi (or something close) not possible if it was only 800x500.
Someone please explain if there is a diff between super AMOLED and super AMOLED HD.
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Maybe OP could have taken sometime to search before posting this useless thread. It was already known for sometime now that HD Super AMOLED will use Pentile matrix. NO, SAMSUNG DOES NOT LIKE TO USE PENTILE, THEY JUST HAVE TO DO IT. Samsung (anyone else for that matter) does not have the technology to make such screens for mass production. And even if they do, that would be too costly.
So, we have Pentile display for now. You should have done some basic google search before posting this. Any info on AMOLED is first revealed on http://www.oled-info.com
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-hd
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-hd-use-pentile-technology
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amol...loped-improved-process-and-uses-new-materials
http://www.oled-info.com/samsung-introduce-7-super-amoled-displays-soon-will-be-super-amoled-hd
EDIT: It's a serious FUD that your PPI depends upon the sub-pixel arrangement. And for whatever it's worth, there have been reports of multiple type of Pentile arrangement. So, please don't start crying the moment anyone says Pentile.
You also have a 2560x1600 WQXGA from Samsung using Pentile arrangement. So, you saying that display is also bad just because it's Pentile?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/13/samsung-and-lg-to-showcase-large-high-pixel-density-lcd-panels/
Just look at the Galaxy Note screen first and then make a judgement.
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Then what is the reason they are calling it the Super AMOLED HD? And if it's only 800x500 why are they calling it 1280x800? Is there a technical loop hole they are using?
And isn't 281dpi (or something close) not possible if it was only 800x500.
Someone please explain if there is a diff between super AMOLED and super AMOLED HD.
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Alright SAMOLED uses a pentile matrix while SAMOLED plus uses a true stripe RGB display.
Check this link out:
http://www.tested.com/news/pentile-vs-real-stripe-amoled-displays-whats-different/1868/
The Atrix also uses a pentile display and it annoys me to no end.
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Then what is the reason they are calling it the Super AMOLED HD? And if it's only 800x500 why are they calling it 1280x800? Is there a technical loop hole they are using?
And isn't 281dpi (or something close) not possible if it was only 800x500.
Someone please explain if there is a diff between super AMOLED and super AMOLED HD.
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because pixel count doesn't depend on subpixel count
to be honest, i'm going to reserve my judgement on this until i see one in person because at this point with such a high res, i'm no entirely sure if it will be that noticeable
Going back to the whole SAMOLED vs SAMOLED+, my 4.3" SAMOLED+ display on SGSII is much much sharper than the 4" SAMOLED display on the captivate
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Alright SAMOLED uses a pentile matrix while SAMOLED plus uses a true stripe RGB display.
Check this link out:
http://www.tested.com/news/pentile-vs-real-stripe-amoled-displays-whats-different/1868/
The Atrix also uses a pentile display and it annoys me to no end.
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Ok while I get that the display will be pentile, i guess I'm just not sure of the two different res ppl are claiming. So 1280x800 that samsung says is subpixel count, but actual pixels is 800x500?
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After reading another post I realized that resolution is still pixel count along X and Y axis regardless of sub pixel arrangement. So again where does 800x500 come from?
And is there a diff between SAMOLED & SAMOLED HD?
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Ok so here is the question. I have a choice of those 3 and I am not certain which way to go. I am looking for suggestions that you all have from using the devices and I will provide some sort of criteria so you can give me a better idea.
1. A UI that is intuitive and not a royal pain in the rear to deal with.
2. Seeing as I tend to like to take photo's and watch Movies I would like a device that has a wide range of files it can play but also has a Very good screen and doesn't suffer from banding of lines through the screen and also has good viewability while out doors.
3. Takes good photos and video.
4. I don't care if I have LTE or not considering I am on a 200MB data plan and ALWAYS turn off data unless I Need it when I am out and even than I look for Wi-Fi first.
5. I would Like FM Radio but not a Deal Breaker just like I would Like NFC but again not a deal breaker.
6. Has good Volume when listening through headphones. Don't care so much about external speaker.
7. Has good record at keeping up with Google OS Updates as in ICS and such
Also for those who will say Wait for a different device to come out, that is not an option considering I am running out of time to make a decision within the 30 day return window. I think I have like 8 days left.
Anyway I await information about what you all think and thanks in advance to all who do answer.
None of the above. Import a Galaxy Note instead, it bests all 3 of those. 5.3" AMOLED 1280x800 resolution with a 1.4 GHz Exynos chip.
The SkyRocket is basically the SGS2 with a larger screen. I would choose either of the Samsungs before I would an HTC. I don't much care for the low-quality HTC brand.
droid razr seems awesome!
Well i think the Notes out since it looks like you will be buying on contract. If you are buying off contract i would recommend the Galaxy nexus which comes out this week and should be available for import soon
The skyrocket is like the galaxy s2 except it has a 4.5 in. Super amoled plus display and 1. 5ghz dual core. If you like to watch movies or videos on your phone then go for the skyrocket
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if you are on AT&T you can use any device you want
i'll go for the Galaxy Note if i were you, else the LTE Sky**** is pretty decent
oohh oops that was an internal joke
I love my GS2. I think a Galaxy Note would be cool, but I can't imagine a phone with that big a screen. I'm liking the 4.3 vs the 3.5 on my previous iPhone 4
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The SkyRocket is basically the SGS2 with a larger screen. I would choose either of the Samsungs before I would an HTC. I don't much care for the low-quality HTC brand.
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I am confused by this post.
According to you... Samsung's plastic phones are of higher quality then HTCs aluminum uni body phones?
Please explain how u came to this conclusion lol? Please stop spreading BS... average consumer is already ill informed as it is...
The vivid is plastic too, so HTC has no advantages there IRT build quality.
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HTC phones have a much sturdier build quality than any other phone manufacturer I know.
OK so a little confused by the galaxy note. Looks like it is released in the UK so I can't get it as I am on att network in the US so I am limited to phones that are available there.
I hate to say it but if i were buying now it would be a Samsung. I don't like plasticky phones, but i do like phones that have quality components, i.e Power buttons that don't die every few months of use, speakers that you can actually hear, or digitizers that don't start registering touches across the screen from where you actually touch it.
Have HTC released a phone yet with a camera that's on par with the ones found in other manufacturers devices, or one that doesn't run through an entire battery in under 4 hours of use? Do thay release devices with beautiful SAMOLED + screens?
which one would you prefer？pick up you prefer one
Made my choice, out of the 3 I went with the vivid. The build quality is there, fills solid in hand. The battery life is decent (1620 mah) and the screen is much sharper than the skyrocket's. Not everyone likes the oversaturated samoleds, and I didn't want to end up with a wvga screen (stretched to 4.5" looks really bad in my opinion) especially now, when all new highend devices of 2012 will have high resolution.
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and you still have 30 days
I was at the At&t store checking out the Galaxy S2, S2 Skyrocket, and the HTC Vivid. I can see why there are many who are fans of the Galaxy S2 phones. The Galaxy S2 is skinny, light in weight, vibrant screen, and has a large battery. However I ultimately believed the Vivid is a better phone for what I was looking for. I found GS2 phones feeling a bit cheap on the outer casing. The plastic felt too thin all the way around and didn't feel very solid. The color on the screen looks very very impressive but often feels unnatural and over saturated (like putting contrast on your TV all the way up). Particularly on the Skyrocket, the WVGA resolution feels very inadequate for screens 4.5 inches and above. You literally can see pixels as they look over stretched on 4.5 and qHD just do a much better job at that size. What really pushed me to the Vivid was that Sense just feel and functions much better to me than Samsung's TouchWiz to an otherwize an impressive hardware.
But either way, both phones will accomplish (pretty much) any task just the same
Edit: looks like you made your pick, good choice
I would leave AT&T! they get crappy android phones. I left AT&T for T-Mobile and got the HTC Sensation 4G and love it, and my bill is half the price of AT&T's now
The vivid does 1080p at 60fps. That's reason enough for some people to get it. I'm Considering dropping tmobile for AT&T just for that camcorder on that phone.
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The vivid does 1080p at 60fps. That's reason enough for some people to get it. I'm Considering dropping tmobile for AT&T just for that camcorder on that phone.
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Ok vivid records 1080p in a ****y 3gp with a very low bit rate. It looks terrible.
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Yes, it's fat. There, I said it, the Sensation XE is fat and it's heavy. The One S wins hands down there. I have small hands and the One S was easier to hold, more comfortable and it felt more "right"...
But apart from taking up pocket space, what do you actually use the most on a smartphone? It's a trick question.....it's the screen.
I can't understand WHY HTC put a pentile screen on the One S. Compare the screens and the One S is an obvious downgrade from the XE. I didn't think I would mind as much, but when trying out the phone it really REALLY annoyed me. Holding them up side by side, the XE wins hands down. It just looks better.
If we look away from the possibility that it's a supply issue, that there is a lack of better screens, this is yet again clearly a sign of HTC's bad decisions of late.
The only reason I can see for using the pentile screen on the One S, is to make it obvious for potential buyers in-store that the One X is the superior phone. Spec wise, it is across the board, we all know that. But in the shop and in daily use, the difference isn't that noticable. Coming from an iPhone, you won't notice that the One S has lower specs that the X in daily use. But a consumer holding up the S and X next to each other, they will clearly see that the X is better. I think, if the S had the same display as, most MOST (but not all) would choose the S because of the size and they wouldn't care as much about the sprec. So HTC but an inferior screen in so they wouldn't compete against themselves.
The X is too big for my hands, the S is the mainstream perfect size. For now, I'm sticking with the XE and next time, I might just get a Samsung. It's the only way I can show HTC, by how I use my money. Ranting here sure won't help hehe.
HTC need a reality check, like STUCK plummeting, important people getting fired, good staff going to Samsung.
Agreed. I owned a One S for a period of two days. Totally disappointed with the Screen, battery and functionality.
And I also agree, my XE wins hands down, and I was glad to be using it afterwards.
I have a friend who works in "A big Phone Retailer" who has never seen so many returns with the whole range.
HTC needs to change their strategy, because it's losing customers with the "ONE" range. I am one of them.
Regards to the OP.
I'm up for my tmo contract at the end of this year but I could get a discount on a new phone now and I'm definitely NOT going with the one S. I just don't see any benefit using it over the sensation. I'm hoping Tmo gets the GS 3 when it comes out but I'm not holding my breath with that since they were the last of the major us carriers to get the gs 2.
The other option is going with the elephant sized galaxy note, but I really don't think that's for me.
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I'm up for my tmo contract at the end of this year but I could get a discount on a new phone now and I'm definitely NOT going with the one S. I just don't see any benefit using it over the sensation. I'm hoping Tmo gets the GS 3 when it comes out but I'm not holding my breath with that since they were the last of the major us carriers to get the gs 2.
The other option is going with the elephant sized galaxy note, but I really don't think that's for me.
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Agreed, I dont see how any one can make use of such a big device on the daily basis.
my father is getting one in the mail on monday, i cant wait to put it against my sensation
Well, it's a budget phone right, so I guess they've put in a cheap screen for that reason.
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Well, it's a budget phone right, so I guess they've put in a cheap screen for that reason.
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Umm... Hardly...
It is an mid-upper range device.
It costs around 400 quid new.
So much rationalization in these forums.
Sensation vs SII, oh the Sensation feels faster than the SII (even though benchmarks and neutral users/reviewers all agree that the SII is a faster device) and the screen of the SII may be better than the Sensation but who cares, etc.
Now you have the One S, which is way faster than the Sensation with a worse screen, most people are still rationalizing about how the Sensation is a much superior device.
If that is the case, then the SII would have been the obvious choice from the beginning if all you want is a good display.
Not really sure what your point is?
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Not really sure what your point is?
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Stop using the screen as an argument for rationalizing about a device you own or to discredit a phone that's markedly faster.
The same people that have been hating on the SII did not care about the screen quality even though the device is faster.
Now you have a new device that has a worse screen that's way faster than the Sensation but the same people that did not care for the display of a device are hating on it BECAUSE of its screen.
Double standards much?
Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. The screen to me is a non-issue, I still don't see the one S being an upgrade over the sensation. Faster? In daily use or just in benchmarks? My biggest issue with it is the lack of storage, I used to have a 16 gb sd card and between music, video, and backups it got filled pretty quickly.
The battery isn't great but I could live with it, although if I'm on a trip away from home it's nice to know if I run out I have a backup battery I can just pop in the phone and go.
I wouldn't say it's a downgrade... but there's no compelling reason to upgrade.
While the chipset, camera, and dimensions are better - the screen is iffy (AMOLED but pentile), limited to 16 GB, and no real option (yet) to install a larger battery.
If they supported TMO AWS, I would probably be looking at the Xperia S. Slightly smaller than the Sensation with a 720p screen, more ram, better camera, etc. With the latest rumors that the GSIII has a 4.8" screen... I'm not sure I really want anything like that.
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Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. The screen to me is a non-issue, I still don't see the one S being an upgrade over the sensation. Faster? In daily use or just in benchmarks? My biggest issue with it is the lack of storage, I used to have a 16 gb sd card and between music, video, and backups it got filled pretty quickly.
The battery isn't great but I could live with it, although if I'm on a trip away from home it's nice to know if I run out I have a backup battery I can just pop in the phone and go.
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Those are all valid reasons and I respect that and even agree with them.
What I think is absolutely ridiculous and stupid is the sheer amount of double standards and rationalization that a large number of people here tend to exhibit.
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Well, it's a budget phone right, so I guess they've put in a cheap screen for that reason.
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No, the One V is the 'budget' one of the range.
My sensation(running aokp) is an excellent phone and development is outstanding but the sense OS really sucks so I wont be buying a One S. Might try a samsung handset but after rooting and flashing 3 samsungs for friends and family huge PTA by the way I might have to jump ship altogether.
I don't get the point of this rant. Tech-wise, One S is far superior to the One X in my opinion. I mean, apart from the screen, the One X has very little going for it. Tegra3 is a massive disappointment (just like Tegra2 was), and pales in comparison to Snapdragon 4 when it comes to the things that matter for a phone: Speed and battery life.
Yes, One S runs at a lower resolution, so it is close to 'cheating' since we are not comparing like-to-like. One S would probably be a much inferior experience to One X, if it was to run at the same (higher) resolution.
But we are comparing consumer experiences here, and that's where One S absolutely beats One X hands down. It feels faster (even on stock), and its battery life is one of the best I have seen on a phone. It regularly stays alive for over 3-4 days on a single charge, with data and sync on.
Plus, although Pentile, the Super AMOLED is still a work of beauty, delivering incredible colours and blacks. The only thing One X (and XE) have going for them is that S-LCD offers superior pixel density and does not have jagged-lines.
But One S is smaller, lighter, and clearly the better device.
grcd said:
I don't get the point of this rant.
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I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.
lianw said:
I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.
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agreed!
I think I see it 99% every time a new awsm phone comes out
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Those are all valid reasons and I respect that and even agree with them.
What I think is absolutely ridiculous and stupid is the sheer amount of double standards and rationalization that a large number of people here tend to exhibit.
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You have been on a discussion board before....right? :what:
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lianw said:
I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.
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You're very unique on forums, and I can relate, because we think a lot alike. No matter what comes out, people will always find a way to argue that the Sensation is the better device. It's not unique behavior to the Sensation, nor is it unique to phones (I see the same behavior on car forums I'm on). Saying that the One S is undeniably worse is unreasonable. What would make sense is to say that you don't feel that the One S is enough of an improvement to justify jumping for it. For me, I really care about the display on a phone, and I've read enough bad things about the One S and its bad display to avoid it. I don't really get the rationalization behavior, though. It only took me 3 weeks after getting my Sensation way back when to wish I had waited to get the GS2 instead. I was also very vocal on this forum about how I thought the Sensation was nice for my first Android, but how I was also underwhelmed by it (especially the performance and screen) and I posted a lot in the early Sensation vs. GS2 threads about how I as a Sensation owner had to cede that the GS2 was the better overall device.
Back a little bit on topic, I have to say that I'm really disappointed in the trend we're seeing with Android devices. I really want the One X's screen, but the overall size of the One X is too big for me. The One S has the form factor I want, but not the screen. The GS3 is receiving major hype right now, but we can be fairly confident that it too will have a large 4.6"+ display and consequently large dimensions, so I don't think I can get the GS3 unless they manage to make the screen nearly edge to edge. Will we ever see 4.3" display devices that also get top of the line specs again?
hi all,
my Nexus One is dying and now I'm crazy for buying a worthy successor.
I'm undecided between the One S and Galaxy Nexus ...
The thing that worries me most is the pentile screen, often criticized by many reviews. True, both have a pentile display, but the higher resolution on the nexus hide the pixel matrix.
So, I wanted to ask you an opinion about the screen, because I saw him quickly into the store, but it made not a great impression.
Which is a shame because the rest (hardware, ergonomics, power and battery life) looks very good ...
GNexus is a little bit older, but is equally beautiful (the shape and design are simply awesome for me) and it is much more supported by community, and also it cost me 100 euros less.
What would you do in my situation?
one last thing, I'd like the black version, have been solved the problems of paint stripping? I tried out the gray S and aluminum seems a bit too slippery ...
thanks and sorry for my bad english
Well, if you don't like the screen, then you should probably choose the nexus. I can't really say I notice it at all, but then I'm coming from a Hero. Overall I completely LOVE the phone! It's fast, has good battery life and sense is nice as well. Also it feels and looks nice, and the size is perfect; a big screen and it still fits perfectly into one hand. I've tried the X multiple times in store and it just is too big for me
I have the black version and I haven't had any issues yet, not my mom either (she has an identical phone, It's kind of awkward, but is it my fault she has good taste? ). I'm still waiting a bit longer before rooting ,though, jic I have to return it
Edit: my biggest concern is the limited storage, but It's okay. I had 8 gb on my hero and never filled it up
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I see no problem on the display--gorgeous
I did, after testing both in stores, find the One S renders web pages much faster--
Perfect size--
i see no problems with the display too. it look better than the amoled screen i had in the past (galaxy s1, nexus s)
i believe its safe to say the processor on the one s beats the galaxy nexus.
One S has a far superior CPU
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I was actually in the same boat as you.
I had previously come from another carrier where I was using an EVO 3D and switched to a contract free plan with an Nexus One.
I found the Nexus One to be great but needed to upgrade.
I thought the Galaxy Nexus was a great phone. It's fast, sleek and, if buying unlocked, cheaper than the One S. The One S was just so cool when I got my hands on it. It's got a far better CPU than the Galaxy Nexus which really pushed me to it. Also, I find the form-factor of the One S to be perfect while at times I thought the Galaxy Nexus was a little bulky.
As for the screen on the One S. I was very hesitant to buy it because in the store I did notice the screen was not at the quality I was used to. Having previously used a true qHD LCD screen, it was easy to tell the PenTile display was not of the same caliber as far as resolution goes. BUT... It does still look great. The colors are fantastic! And, I thought the little niggles of the PenTile display would bother me day to day, but they have not.
Overall, the One S is a fast phone that looks amazing. I like pretty much everything about it (except that HTC is still witholding source code )
I eventually chose the cheapest option...
I got a great deal and for more than 100 euros less and other small details (see the screen resolution or the unconfortable power button on the One s), I took a Galaxy Nexus ....
Anyway, thanks to everyone for the advice