Hi, i have some questions about HDMI before making my purchase, since i never used HDMI or touched a HDMI cable before so i don't know anything about this , i only know that it basically "bring" the exact same thing happening on the tablet to another device (usually TV 'cause we want big screen), but here are my questions:
1. what hdmi cable do i need to buy, i heard there are many types of hdmi cable like mini hdmi, micro hdmi and hdmi,... so which one do i need to buy? and how do i know what type of hdmi does my TV use so i can buy the right one? (i know my TV has a hdmi "thing" but i don't even know where and what it is)
2. does this tablet really "bring" the *exact* whatever i'm seeing on my tablet to the TV, are there any lags or issues?
3. does it drain the tablet's battery when connected to TV, i think you can turn off the display on the tablet, so it shouldn't drain too much battery, right? if so can the battery last longer when connected to TV than using it regularly? if it does drain battery, do i need to plug the tablet to power to charge it (to give it power) while connected to TV?
thanks in advance, i know i asked a lot
nooktablet said:
1. what hdmi cable do i need to buy, i heard there are many types of hdmi cable like mini hdmi, micro hdmi and hdmi,... so which one do i need to buy? and how do i know what type of hdmi does my TV use so i can buy the right one? (i know my TV has a hdmi "thing" but i don't even know where and what it is)
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You will need an micro HDMI to HDMI kable or an adapter.
ATTENTION not an mini HDMI.
I accidenticly bought an mini HDMi cable so watch out if it is an mini or an micro HDMI.
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2. does this tablet really "bring" the *exact* whatever i'm seeing on my tablet to the TV, are there any lags or issues?
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I first had the issue, that i also displayed the navigiation bar on the screen. So this is an 16:10 on an 16:9 Screen. When you go to settings there should be an Option for HDMI. To set the screen to 16:9 you just play with the 3d settings.
That way it worked for me and the statusbar
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3. does it drain the tablet's battery when connected to TV, i think you can turn off the display on the tablet, so it shouldn't drain too much battery, right? if so can the battery last longer when connected to TV than using it regularly? if it does drain battery, do i need to plug the tablet to power to charge it (to give it power) while connected to TV?
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At the moment you can't turn off the Display while its connected to the TV.
But you don't need to charge it while its connected.
I always charged it while its connected, so I can't tell you much about the drain of the battery.
nooktablet said:
Hi, i have some questions about HDMI before making my purchase, since i never used HDMI or touched a HDMI cable before so i don't know anything about this , i only know that it basically "bring" the exact same thing happening on the tablet to another device (usually TV 'cause we want big screen), but here are my questions:
1. what hdmi cable do i need to buy, i heard there are many types of hdmi cable like mini hdmi, micro hdmi and hdmi,... so which one do i need to buy? and how do i know what type of hdmi does my TV use so i can buy the right one? (i know my TV has a hdmi "thing" but i don't even know where and what it is)
2. does this tablet really "bring" the *exact* whatever i'm seeing on my tablet to the TV, are there any lags or issues?
3. does it drain the tablet's battery when connected to TV, i think you can turn off the display on the tablet, so it shouldn't drain too much battery, right? if so can the battery last longer when connected to TV than using it regularly? if it does drain battery, do i need to plug the tablet to power to charge it (to give it power) while connected to TV?
thanks in advance, i know i asked a lot
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1. If you're looking for a cable, check monoprice. I got a 15ft one for like $7.
2. It's mirroring, meaning yes, the exact thing.
3. The battery drain is little to nothing. I used it to watch a couple movies, streaming and nonstreaming, play games....it all came out to the same battery drain as using it normally. Maybe a little bit more, but not a significant amount.
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Can anyone tell me if this is the HDMI cable for Sensation...? I want to plug it in Sony Bravia...
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-S.../dp/B004286VMW/ref=pd_luc_chashrec_01_04_t_lh
should try it and let us know
Our Sensations dont have a mini hdmi, i have tried it.You need something like this
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1321232352&sr=1-3
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Can anyone tell me if this is the HDMI cable for Sensation...? I want to plug it in Sony Bravia...
http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-S.../dp/B004286VMW/ref=pd_luc_chashrec_01_04_t_lh
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No, don't buy it will not work.
yeah, you need a MHL adapter like bonesy posted
Hey thanks guys... I thought its a simple way...lol..
Why didn't they make mini hdmi like the one in Sony Eric phones... ?
Btw... I don't understand the USB power port in mhl adapter. do we need to plug in our USB power adapter charger in that mhl adapter? Its a power source necessary for this mhl?
I bought an MHL adapter off ebay.
I have found that I need to plug in the charger to the cable but that might just be because I am using the HDMI through an auto switcher that doesn't have it's own power (gets the power from HDMI input). I haven't tried with the HDMI straight into the TV.
I watched a film over HDMI last night and the quality was really good even though it wasn't even a HD movie.
Just get the cheapest one you can find on ebay... they all use the same standard (MHL).
Phil
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I watched a film over HDMI last night and the quality was really good even though it wasn't even a HD movie.
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HD doesn't really mean **** if you know what you are doing.
It's all about using high bitrates, low-artifact, low noise, etc when encoding videos. I'd rather have a 25Mbps 720p than a 10MBps 1080p.
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I bought an MHL adapter off ebay.
I have found that I need to plug in the charger to the cable but that might just be because I am using the HDMI through an auto switcher that doesn't have it's own power (gets the power from HDMI input). I haven't tried with the HDMI straight into the TV.
I watched a film over HDMI last night and the quality was really good even though it wasn't even a HD movie.
Just get the cheapest one you can find on ebay... they all use the same standard (MHL).
Phil
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Just read this:
The power cable must be connected to the adapter while using it to send video and audio through HDMI. Power charger is not included in packaging. The MHL adapter features an USB Micro-B (female) power input. Connect the charger supplied with your mobile device to the MHL adapter to power your mobile device while it is in use.
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I guess we have to connect a power adapter.. I think Sony Ericsson phones dont need this ****... i dont know why would they come out with adding annoying technology...
oN second thought, I believe it can also take power from a USB port. so If ur TV has a USB port then u can simply plugin the adapter with it to supply power and use HDMI cable to connect...
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oN second thought, I believe it can also take power from a USB port. so If ur TV has a USB port then u can simply plugin the adapter with it to supply power and use HDMI cable to connect...
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Correct!
Just tried with the side HDMI port on my TV which is next to the USB port and it worked.
Most TV's even cheap ones have a USB on them these days.
And yes... completely agree about the HD video comment. It was a very good DVD rip I had done with a decent bit rate.
Phil
Has anyone with a Revolution 3.6.13 rooted Sensation 4G (T-Mobile USA) tried this MHL adapter for $10.20 from monoprice.com and how is the quality? I'm in need of an MHL hookup but not exactly sure which to get.
pfx
Tried it on the resound, and would lose internet when connected. I keep meaning to pick up the official 15 pin HTC unit. Costs more, but you get what you pay for. If this is useless, please ignore..
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Yeah those are the kinds of glitches I'm hoping to avoid, as having wifi dropout while it's connected would partly defeat the purpose. I found this one also on ebay which has the HDMI cable connected, so it only requires two separate pieces/cables, though I'm not sure if using my own HDMI cable might get better results.
Be careful. For example I'm in need of one too but I don't have HDMI, only DVI.
When using MHL with DVI, you only get a picture on the screen when it updates the screen. It's black the rest of the time unless scrolling, playing a movie, live wallpapers, etc.
So I'm a little SoL.
xhigh, not sure I get the point of your post.. are you saying your tv/monitor only has DVI input? I did mention HDMI specifically in my post, not DVI, so whatever DVI issues there may be aren't an issue.
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HTC Sensation / Revolution 3.6.13 via XDA app
So what is a recommended MHL adapter? Or are we really to spend $30+ on the HTC one?
Looking to be able to play videos (x264) over dlna / samba or whatever to hdmi. Preferably outputting sound through the analog jack still for now.
I took a chance on the Monoprice one, and just received it this morning.. I haven't had time to test it extensively yet, but here's my experience so far...
Pros:
I was able to connect to my 1080P hidef tv without any problems.. connected to HDMI-4, plugged the usb into the side of the tv, and was up and running in literally under 60 seconds. No reboot was needed.
Picture quality is not 100% perfect, but it's nearly so... much more than adequate for viewing movies, previewing photos from the camera, etc. Audio quality via HDMI was also extremely good.
I did *not* lose wifi while connected, as some others have reported. Wifi signal remained strong. I was able to connect via SMB and CIFS and stream music and video, though I haven't tested this extensively yet.
Cons:
I'm not sure if this is normal with MHL connectors, but while the adapter was powered via USB on the side of the tv, the 500mA coming out of the tv was not enough to provide a charge.. During the 30 minutes I played with it, there was a gradual discharge of the phone, so it's not able to keep up with the rate of discharge of the phone, though technically it should prolong the battery life since it is providing some power to the phone. (Technically, the USB power connection to the MHL is to power the HDMI signal, so maybe what I observed is perfectly normal). While plugged in via USB, Minimalistic Text showed a status of 'USB Charging' which was to be expected...
Next I tried plugging the power directly into AC and not the television's USB port.. Interestingly enough, Minimalistic Text again showed a status of 'USB Charging' even though it was plugged into mains power, so it must have something to do with the fact that the mini-USB end of the AC charger isn't being plugged directly into the phone, but through the MHL dongle instead. In any case, and also interesting, the phone was again discharging faster than it accepted charge from AC, but it seemed to be a slower discharge than when plugged into the tv's USB port...
So, all in all, given my intended use which for now is mainly going to be for previewing photos, working with some documents via bluetooth keyboard, and playing P90 and Tapout workout videos, I think it's well worth the price.
If anyone can comment on the USB charging and discharge rates on OEM MHL adapters, that would be helpful.. Is it normal that the phone discharges while connected to MHL, even though it's in a charging state? If so, then I'm more than happy with the one I got from monoprice.. If, however, OEM units do actually build charge while connected, then I might consider one down the road if I find I have more elaborate requirements than I do now...
Offtopic, can anyone recommend good affordable bluetooth keyboards for our phones?
Thanks. That definitely helps! My goal is to play hours of video through CIFS/SMB/DLNA (x264), so it sounds like power will definitely be an issue.
Is MHL/HDMI purely a clone of the phone's screen or what? Wondering if there's any apps out there that can have the phone function as a remote / file navigator, and have video output only go through hdmi.
MHL is a clone of the phone's screen, so you can use ES File Explorer to navigate your CIFS shares, touch your video file, select the appropriate viewer, and it will stream and clone to the tv..
I tried it and it works great
but, buy it in dx
I recently received an HDMI to Micro-HDMI cord, and was excited to test it on my 37" Panasonic.
I have tried every combination of turning on and off the TV/Tablet first etc...and it STILL will not show up on my TV. It's acting like there is nothing connected at all. No prompts.
So...what am I doing wrong? The cord I bought was 3 bucks on Amazon, so it may be a knock off or something. Buy a new cord? Any help is appreciated. Half the reason I bought this thing was to watch movies on my hdtv.
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I recently received an HDMI to Micro-HDMI cord, and was excited to test it on my 37" Panasonic.
I have tried every combination of turning on and off the TV/Tablet first etc...and it STILL will not show up on my TV. It's acting like there is nothing connected at all. No prompts.
So...what am I doing wrong? The cord I bought was 3 bucks on Amazon, so it may be a knock off or something. Buy a new cord? Any help is appreciated. Half the reason I bought this thing was to watch movies on my hdtv.
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I would try to find another TV to test with... Maybe a display model in a retail store if you don't know anyone with a TV that you can test with?
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My micro HDMI cord only worked on my LG when I first selected the input on my TV and then unplugged and plugged the HDMI cord back into the Infinity. Also make sure the cord is plugged ALL the way in.
When I played NetFlix on the tablet, the TV would display the video and sound, but the closed captioning stayed on the device.
roncoallstar said:
I recently received an HDMI to Micro-HDMI cord, and was excited to test it on my 37" Panasonic.
I have tried every combination of turning on and off the TV/Tablet first etc...and it STILL will not show up on my TV. It's acting like there is nothing connected at all. No prompts.
So...what am I doing wrong? The cord I bought was 3 bucks on Amazon, so it may be a knock off or something. Buy a new cord? Any help is appreciated. Half the reason I bought this thing was to watch movies on my hdtv.
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I bought a Micro HDMI to HDMI cord on amazon for about 3 dollars also, it worked perfectly fine on my 42inch LCDTV Panasonic. All I had to do was connect it and change the input on the TV to the right HDMI and it worked fine. Although watching movies with subtitles didn't work so well as the subtitles was left at the tablet screen, and I couldn't turn the tablet screen off while watching movies on my TV.
when you plug in the HDMI cord, the TF700 should show some kind of "HDMI" noticifation, and will stay on when connected. If you're not seeing this, then you'll need to figure out if it's the cord or HDMI port on one of your devices. The TV, hook something else to it that used HDMI. The cord, try another cord. Monoprice has them cheap too; probably like $5 with shipping. If you're not seeing the HDMI notification after the cord, and you know they cord is good, it's your TF.
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when you plug in the HDMI cord, the TF700 should show some kind of "HDMI" noticifation, and will stay on when connected. If you're not seeing this, then you'll need to figure out if it's the cord or HDMI port on one of your devices. The TV, hook something else to it that used HDMI. The cord, try another cord. Monoprice has them cheap too; probably like $5 with shipping. If you're not seeing the HDMI notification after the cord, and you know they cord is good, it's your TF.
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I have problems as well, tried to connect my tf700 to my samsung UE46ES8005 led tv but cant get it to work
On LG i have no problems at all, but the samsung refuses. Tried different cables to no avail.
I have sent a mail to samsung support 3 days ago but no answer.... hmm
//Mackis
same her it works on my monitor but i have Panasonic tv and it doesn't work tried a variety of cables and no go but tried on a Toshiba TV at parents and it works.i had the prime and it work just fine
Asus really needs to add some HDMI scaling options to the TF700 to allow it to work with more TV's - I'm assuming these issues are because the TF700 only seems to output at it's native resolution, which most devices don't seem to like... I'll do some testing with my Toshiba 1080p TV today, just to see what I can find out as well and report any findings that may be useful.
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I've connected the TF700T to be Panasonic 55TV50 Plasmass HDTV and to a Vizio 16" LCD TV. No issues.
Connecting to 2 Vizio tvs and a Hitachi no problem.
Our 58 inch Samstung plasma only sees the tablet connection on HDMI 3 which is the recommended port for a monitor hook up from a pc.
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There is a HDMI encryption called HDCP that basically makes it more annoying to use HDMI than it should. Some TV's do not have HDCP enabled. Since the Infinity FORCES HDCP chances are whats happening is the TV doesnt know what to do with the encrypted signal and the tablet doesnt want to play nice so the TV will work.
Unfortunate for you, im guessing your TV is not compatible. Sorry for the bad news mate.
There have also been problems with people trying to use HDMI - DVI adapters and connect into DVI monitors, since a lot of (older) DVI devices also dont support HDCP or sometimes the connector itself doesnt have the right connections to make HDCP work often it all just doesnt work properly. Maybe in time there will be a hack to disable HDCP, until then theres not much you can do.
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There is a HDMI encryption called HDCP that basically makes it more annoying to use HDMI than it should. Some TV's do not have HDCP enabled. Since the Infinity FORCES HDCP chances are whats happening is the TV doesnt know what to do with the encrypted signal and the tablet doesnt want to play nice so the TV will work.
Unfortunate for you, im guessing your TV is not compatible. Sorry for the bad news mate.
There have also been problems with people trying to use HDMI - DVI adapters and connect into DVI monitors, since a lot of (older) DVI devices also dont support HDCP or sometimes the connector itself doesnt have the right connections to make HDCP work often it all just doesnt work properly. Maybe in time there will be a hack to disable HDCP, until then theres not much you can do.
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Again pileot... HDCP has NOTHING to do with it. Find me a monitor/tv that does have HDMI that does not have hdcp enabled..... they don't exist anymore.
If it has HDMI... then chances are 99.999999% that you have an HDCP compliant monitor.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090922221218AAyrnYz
DVI will not work because the 5v signal that is needed for the monitor to recognize that something is connected to it-- is not sent with our tablets.
Seems this question is repeated as soon as it falls off the first page......
Hi.
I thought on sharing my findings on how i solved getting my infinity to work with my led-tv.
I have tried all kind of stuff before this but i have a stubborn samsung that doesn't want to recognize the tab.
I got some tips from within xda that infinity lacks the 5v for hdmi out so the tv can sence that something is hocked up.
i bought a Andersson HDMI Switch 4x1 that has a poweradaptor to try this out.
It wasn't an easy go by just hooking things up.
so i tried hocking my laptop up to the switch and got the picture on the tv, then i connected the tab on the second hdmi port and the infinity recognized that the hdmi was attached, i tried to switch ports with the remote to the hdmi switch but that failed, so i disconnected the cable to the laptop and VOILA i got the tv to show the tablets screen on the TV screen, i can now scale the picture and everything works great.
If i leave the switch powered on and connected to the tv i can connect and disconnect the tab without problems.
If i power of the switch i have to go through the same procedure again to fool the tv to recognize that samething is hooked up to the hdmi port.
Hope this helps some of you with the same problem and stubborn tv sets.
Best regards
Mackis
Mackis said:
Hi.
I got some tips from within xda that infinity lacks the 5v for hdmi out so the tv can sence that something is hocked up.
i bought a Andersson HDMI Switch 4x1 that has a power adaptor to try this out.
If i leave the switch powered on and connected to the tv i can connect and disconnect the tab without problems.
If i power of the switch i have to go through the same procedure again to fool the tv to recognize that samething is hooked up to the hdmi port.
Hope this helps some of you with the same problem and stubborn tv sets.
Best regards
Mackis
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Weird. I have a powered monoprice HDMI switch connected to a Denon Receiver, which connects to my Sony TV. I've had no problems with the TF700 Infinity being recognized. I also took the Infinity on a cruise and connected it to a Samsung 720p LCD TV with no problems. I believe that this would discount the theory that the Infinity doesn't have the right HDMI signal/voltage.
I assume that you tried changing HDMI cables? Perhaps the TF700 that you have has a defective HDMI port.
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Weird. I have a powered monoprice HDMI switch connected to a Denon Receiver, which connects to my Sony TV. I've had no problems with the TF700 Infinity being recognized. I also took the Infinity on a cruise and connected it to a Samsung 720p LCD TV with no problems. I believe that this would discount the theory that the Infinity doesn't have the right HDMI signal/voltage.
I assume that you tried changing HDMI cables? Perhaps the TF700 that you have has a defective HDMI port.
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That was my first guess but after i read here on xda that even the cables can be defective i bought one more, then i tried different manifactures LG and philips lcd-tv worked with the infinity without problems, so i guess i have a tv that is too new. I contacted Samsung and they are looking in to it. Not that i have high hopes, for now im a happy camper solving it this way.
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That was my first guess but after i read here on xda that even the cables can be defective i bought one more, then i tried different manifactures LG and philips lcd-tv worked with the infinity without problems, so i guess i have a tv that is too new. I contacted Samsung and they are looking in to it. Not that i have high hopes, for now im a happy camper solving it this way.
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It's weird that the TV would recognize other HDMI devices but not the Infinity. At least you have it working.
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It's weird that the TV would recognize other HDMI devices but not the Infinity. At least you have it working.
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Yes i know, i think its weird to, but i think its the 5v issue that my samsung model don't sence.
On the LG i have to change hdmi port with the remotecontrol to the tv for it to work or power it down and up again otherwise its not working. On the samsung lcd on my work i have no problems at all but it is older tv models. If i could get hold of some other tv model that anyone here have problems hooking up the infinity with i would be happy to try this solution and see if it works.
//Mackis
Want to send e special thank's to Cheapxj and jordanmw who contributed with answers to lead me the right way and get this working in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNFvHH2RDJ-vbnV244BRFl8IzeHkGQ
And yes i pushed the thank you button for both of you!!
Anybody knows if its possible to connect usb OTG host and charge the tablet at the same time, i found out a way to enable adoptable storage on USB drives so im planning to offload my console games(borderlands, half-life,etc) to an external hard drive cause i only play them at home when im in console mode, and if it is possible anybody knows where to get one from a reliable seller?
Haha just bought an adapter on amazon.
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Haha just bought an adapter on amazon.
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Does it work charge and enable usb host at the same time? The current one i have acts weird, if i leave tablet alone, usb plugged in host mode as adopted storage my k1 charges, but if i start using it, even on light usage, battery discharges even if it indicates it is charging
Haven't tried it yet. I'll let you know ASAP when I've tested it.
This thread is a little old but still applies:
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=2949321&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
USB OTG and Y cables?
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Okay, they one I've got is damaged. Gotta send it back.
The ones Exile suggested I've one of them. Though, they connect all to big female USB! So you'd need another USB cable (Big male USB to micro male USB for the tab).
I've been using this one, and it works pretty well for charging and using OTG at the same time. But it won't recognize USB devices unless the charger is plugged in, probably because it has a built-in hub.
https://www.amazon.com/Adaptor-Powe...=1474901496&sr=1-1&keywords=usb+otg+cable+hub
Thank you for the replies and suggestions, looks like the one im gettting is the same one by @primaleph
Y OTG cables do NOT work with the Shield. I tested a bunch and it's either charging or gamepad but never both simultaneously.
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Y OTG cables do NOT work with the Shield. I tested a bunch and it's either charging or gamepad but never both simultaneously.
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Well actually they do, very2 slow, i hooked the OTG i bought to my charger, my tablet and my printer, then started doing some typing work while listening to some tracks on spotify max volume and at about 20% brightness,, after i finished and checked my battery it went up from 95 to 97, also tried the same with a usb attached, so for light loads it does charge but for gaming, even i lose charge when playing games such as vain glory while the tablet is directly charging so im sure its still gonna drain but probably not as fast as not charging at all, or another thing is not all OTG Y cables are configured the same me and @primaleph just got lucky with the ones we got and yours are probably the not compatible ones
A printer?
Anyhow, it doesn't show the lightning symbol if two devices like charger and gamepad are simultaneously connected. Whereas, using just one of the devices works.
Niii4 said:
A printer?
Anyhow, it doesn't show the lightning symbol if two devices like charger and gamepad are simultaneously connected. Whereas, using just one of the devices works.
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Yeah i use an app called printershare, it allows me to use printers directly via usb connection cause i still own those old printers with no wifi connection costs 10 bucks for the license though, i tried with my old usb gamepad and it also charges and gamepad works, i think you need a more powerful charger, i use a tronsmart quickcharge 3.0 with a 2nd port with a max of 6.5V 3amp output which i use to charge it in OTG mode, 5V 2amp chargers should work but sometimes the power cuts out on The devices being connected, happened to me while on a boat trip, boring 2hr ride, me and GF wanted to listen to some music but we both own over the ear headphones not those little earphones, i charge my shield with a powerbank that provides 5V 2A output, plug it in the OTG and use a usb soundcard with with two audio jacks so we both could listen and throughout the trip there are times the soundcard would lose power which was pretty annoying,
Heres a screen recording where it is charging and i attach devices one by one to my shield tablet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3miSU6FpDg
i bought this one , it work not enough quick and don t know if i did well,
i use mode 1 , plug hdd then plug charge, in video they use mode 2