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[Q] to require pin or not..

I've been thinking about removing the security pin on my phone so I just slide to unlock instead of requiring a pin.. I have motoblur and can remotely wipe the phone if I lose it (if someone doesn't find it and remove sim first ) the reason is im just sick of putting my pin in all the time.. I don't keep any major personal information on the phone.. the worst thing would be access to any cached emails or txt mags if found by a not nice person.. any major security issues I might not be thinking of? Do you require a pin or not? And why?
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I've never used a lock pattern or pin. I use another security device that came free with my pants: my pocket.
Just keep track of your belongings.

iwasapirate said:
I've never used a lock pattern or pin. I use another security device that came free with my pants: my pocket.
Just keep track of your belongings.
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iwasapirate said:
I've never used a lock pattern or pin. I use another security device that came free with my pants: my pocket.
Just keep track of your belongings.
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Second that. Sercurity is important, but putting in a pattern or pin everytime would get extremely old/annoying.

I also thought about the pin, but decided it would be too much everytime I want to use the phone, but I suppose once you set it up you would get used to it like anything else.

How many times a day to you wake up your telly? lol thats alot of pin entering.

Emergency Calls

Okay I've been viewing and using the forums for a while, but never had a reason to join until now. I've had my HTC one X for over a month and in that time frame I've managed to accidentally call 911 over 8 times (all inside my jean pocket, even 3 times in 1 day). Is there any mod to disable emergency call or remove the emergency contact of 911 from the list when its locked and the button is pushed inside my pocket? I've searched everywhere and can't find a fix. I've even edited my build.prop to read "ro.ril.oem.ecclist=123" instead of "=911". I know there has to be a way to fix this issue but I haven't been able to find it.
I was going to post in the development section but because I just joined I'm unable to post in that thread.
FYI: I"m rooted, unlocked bootloader, CWM, and running CleanRom 3.0.

Please somebody!
Anyone? I really need help on this one, I'm afraid of getting into some serious trouble if I can't fix this issue. Any ideas are greatly appreciated.

Ohh I get it, you use a security lock.
Do not use a security lock?
With the standard lock screen(security lock set to none) there is no emergency dial button.
Other thought though is to buy a flip cover so when the phone is in your pocket the entire screen will be blocked by the cover?
You can buy them online for just a few dollars.

How do you do this? Even with the emergency dial button, it asks you to input the number.

twistedddx said:
Ohh I get it, you use a security lock.
Do not use a security lock?
With the standard lock screen(security lock set to none) there is no emergency dial button.
Other thought though is to buy a flip cover so when the phone is in your pocket the entire screen will be blocked by the cover?
You can buy them online for just a few dollars.
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Those are both good suggestions, but I'm kind of a security nut, and I'd hate to cover up this gorgeous phone. I took my case back because I hated covering it up, but maybe I can find something nice on Amazon. Thank you for the reply.

KitF said:
How do you do this? Even with the emergency dial button, it asks you to input the number.
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There's my issue, it brings you to a dialpad but it also has 911 as an emergency contact at the top of the screen. Even if my pocket dials an insane string of numbers, if it ever touches that top contact or I touch it as I'm pulling it out because it's vibrating and I'm at work, it automatically dials 911. I just thought there was a way to remove that contact.

Just to be complete, also consider a pouch. That way you can just slide it in and out as required. Better suited to car mounts and keeping the phone slim

You have to compromise somewhere...Either keep dialing 911 and eventually get your number blacklisted by them or get in trouble OR stop using the security lock screen. Simple as that, seeing that you don't want to cover the screen with anything.

blaine.hale said:
You have to compromise somewhere...Either keep dialing 911 and eventually get your number blacklisted by them or get in trouble OR stop using the security lock screen. Simple as that, seeing that you don't want to cover the screen with anything.
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You've overlooked option #3: Learn how to develop for android, and make my own mod to solve my issue. Anything is possible and I think it's my only option left, If anyone knows any of the specific files, folders, or APK's that may be in question please let me know. Other than that I'm off on a wild goose chase that I hope I'm able win. Wish me luck!

jo3holl4nd said:
You've overlooked option #3: Learn how to develop for android, and make my own mod to solve my issue. Anything is possible and I think it's my only option left, If anyone knows any of the specific files, folders, or APK's that may be in question please let me know. Other than that I'm off on a wild goose chase that I hope I'm able win. Wish me luck!
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That's such a refreshing response my man, more power to you
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With.mine using a pin.lock, you have to.unlock the normal screen, then the emergency dial pops up. Which way do you have you phone in your pocket, like screen in or out?
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kleeman7 said:
With.mine using a pin.lock, you have to.unlock the normal screen, then the emergency dial pops up. Which way do you have you phone in your pocket, like screen in or out?
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Screen towards my thigh, maybe my jeans are too tight. lol

Well my update for the night (if anyone is interested) is I browsed through the .apk's in cleanrom 3.0 and unzipped 5 of them that had relevant names: DialerLauncher, HTCDialer+, Idlescreenbase, Phone, and Phonesky. Opened up the .dex files in those with notepad just to take a peek at what's readable. found a lot of interesting things in Phone and Dialers. Just went into adb and dexdumped those to read through them all without all the formatting issues in notepad. I'm so new to all this that I have no idea if I'm on the right path or not, but it seems like solid progress to me. Gotta hit the hay though it's 2am, I'll try more tomorrow. Take care everyone and feel free to leave me any suggestions (or encouragement at this point)!

Warning!
I don't recommend dexdumping phone or phonesky! I sure hope my answer isn't in there it's MASSSIVE! Also thank you Corythug for the encouragement lol

I have found two things for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562477
And
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688407
The file you would have to.edit would be android.policy.jar
Those two.post should help one is specific to HTC lockscreen with a for.sure fix.
Good luck.
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jo3holl4nd said:
Screen towards my thigh, maybe my jeans are too tight. lol
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Well there's your problem! Try putting the phone in your pocket screen out. The heat from your thigh is what is dialing the numbers.
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kleeman7 said:
I have found two things for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562477
And
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688407
The file you would have to.edit would be android.policy.jar
Those two.post should help one is specific to HTC lockscreen with a for.sure fix.
Good luck.
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Lol obviously you have the same issue I have of hitting period instead of space on the keyboard. Come from Samsung phones?

timmillah said:
Lol obviously you have the same issue I have of hitting period instead of space on the keyboard. Come from Samsung phones?
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I hit period like no other on this phone, lol.
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ECEXCURSION said:
Well there's your problem! Try putting the phone in your pocket screen out. The heat from your thigh is what is dialing the numbers.
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I considered this but because other screens have cracked and died from sharp table edges with the screen facing out I prefer not to store my phones screen out.

what info should I put on lock screen?

Hi,
After noticing that ICS has owner info on the lock screen I thought about it and decided to edit my lock screen wallpaper.
Since it is a transparent image, it shows whatever launcher wallpaper I have underneath.
What is a suitable ammount of information to put on this?
I have attached a screen shot of my current effort.
Thanks.

It's all about personal preference to be honest. Whatever amount you feel comfortable with, is the right amount for you.
I, for example, have nothing but a wallpaper and unlock slider.
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arjag said:
Hi,
After noticing that ICS has owner info on the lock screen I thought about it and decided to edit my lock screen wallpaper.
Since it is a transparent image, it shows whatever launcher wallpaper I have underneath.
What is a suitable ammount of information to put on this?
I have attached a screen shot of my current effort.
Thanks.
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Just put your name, address, and e-mail
It will help you if you lost your phone...D
Or you can write everything that come to your mind

I was kind of wondering if putting home address on lock screen info was advised?
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arjag said:
I was kind of wondering if putting home address on lock screen info was advised?
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I personally wouldn't suggest having your address on there. Maybe just name, email and another contact number incase you lose it, someone will know to contact you on the backup number.
But it's all about what info you feel comfortable having on there really.
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like how our dogs only have name and phone numbers on their tags as they advised against addresses at puppy pre-school.
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Yeah exactly. Having an address on there could be more risky, in my opinion.
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Thanks for you input guys. Just really want my phone back of it is lost.
Being a Defy wearing an otterbox it will prob survive a fair bit of being in the wild by itself.
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I would just keep it simple, with the text:
If found, call **********, thank you
Then you will be able to give the finder your adress or something.
I just have a message on my splash screen:

Put a weather widget too.
P.S. Don't give too much info about yourself.

I ended up sticking with the screen shot in the first post :good:

The simple the best!!!
I like it very simple...
Hour
Time
City
But I agree that at least it would be good to avoid putting personal information on it

Music control
Personally I just put a beautiful wallpaper, with hour, the weather (with icon and small text) and music app control whih is very useful when I use Spotify in transport for example.

KidCarter93 said:
It's all about personal preference to be honest. Whatever amount you feel comfortable with, is the right amount for you.
I, for example, have nothing but a wallpaper and unlock slider.
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Mind telling how to get an unlock slider on ICS??
I kinda don't like that ring design much.....

Serious Android Lock Screen Vulnerability

Not sure if this is well known or not but if you lose your android phone and think that your 4 digit lock screen password is going to cut it, you may be wrong. I realize that most people here know multiple ways to get access to a device but I haven't seen this way before and thought it was unique.
A 4 digit password can be brute force hacked in 16.5 hours, using the USB rubber duckie developed by the guys at Hak5.
They have a detailed video posted over at: http://hak5.org/episodes/hak5-1217
It works because android doesn't implement longer wait times between unsuccessful pin entries. Every 5 tried it locks you out for 30 seconds. That's it! That's all! Every 5 times, 30 seconds over and over again! It never gets longer! Thus why it takes 16.5 hours to go from 0000 to 9999 with one second between attempts, and 30 seconds between every 5 attempts.
Hopefully this gets fixed in the next version of android. For comparison, BlackBerry has a 10 password rule and the phone gets wiped and Apple makes successive longer wait times and will ultimately lock itself and need to be plugged into the original syncing computer (I believe, not really a big Apple fan, so I don't know for sure)

Thanks for this information
The difference in the time it takes to break a 5 digit pin or a 10 digit pin is cRaZy

Sure, the wait times should be "smarter" - but if you're keeping TRULY sensitive information on your phone, just use a real password to unlock it, not a PIN.
Or, perhaps a solution in the spirit of Android would be to let people decide for themselves how they want it implemented. Some people wouldn't care and wouldn't want their data to be wiped after ten wrong tries - I mean, wow - that would suck if someone knew that and wanted to be malicious and wipe your phone for the lulz or whatever. Or if you wanted to let a kid play with it - which I've read a lot of people do (beats me, but hey). Other people who need tighter security could choose that.

Any tips on how to bypass or brute force the android pattern lock?

After a certain number of tries, Android will not allow you to unlock via PIN, and force you to enter a Google account registered on the phone.
Hacker can't get past that unless they know whose Google account is on the phone, and then they have to hack a Google account
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I have never thought the android lock screen was any good if im honest. if you have a dirtyish screen you can actually see the pattern you draw.
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What gagdude said, after so many failed attempts you need to login via your associated Google account.

Ty for sharing
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Hmmmm interesting, wonder how long it would take for the pattern method of unlocking.

xillusionzx said:
Hmmmm interesting, wonder how long it would take for the pattern method of unlocking.
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Depends. A 4 digit PIN is 10*10*10*10=10000
A pattern can be from 9*8*7*6 to 9! possibilities
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Hi!
I just think PIN is unuseful. I was cheated by one of my friend because he discovered the PIN of my phone. I give my phone to nobody no more. Now I have a phone without protection: it is more comfortable!

Put any password /pin, u can just boot into recovery, do a factory reset and it's all gone! Right? (in case of theft I'm talking about)

Thanks for the heads up, my mother in lay asked this about her new Note II today.

Lifehacker7 said:
Put any password /pin, u can just boot into recovery, do a factory reset and it's all gone! Right? (in case of theft I'm talking about)
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As if someone who actually goes low enough to steal know what recovery is.
What I'm trying to say here us that the average person doesn't know what recovery is.
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gagdude said:
As if someone who actually goes low enough to steal know what recovery is.
What I'm trying to say here us that the average person doesn't know what recovery is.
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Just sayin!

Lifehacker7 said:
Just sayin!
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I know; I used to worry about this until I asked my friend about it and he was like "what's recovery? Stop being a nerd." And then it hit me: people don't know what it even is, much less how to boot into it
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Yeah, but all but the dumbest theives have the wits to Google search If they have an issue that's in the way of turning a profit (like a lock screen). It's occupational information even if it's not known to "normal" people. You know, like lock picking, hot wiring, et cetera. Not all theives are rock-stupid - and maybe some are, and but they're stealing phones they can't sell at low costs/for meth to someone who in fact does know how to make these devices much more profitable.
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If someone steals my phone he can just flash a new rom on it.
No need to brute force the password/pin unless he's after my personal info/my messages.

Programmatically using S4 Sensors

Hey, guys
I am Android developer & recently I have launched an app which Intelligently locks & Unlocks your device using various sensors.
The name of app is Cover Algorithm.
Edit: Now, name changed to Automaton.
So, I wanted to design my app to use special /extra Sensors like Infra-red, proximity, etc.
So, I need to help of S4 users / developers to find any way to use those sensors programmatically to make my app better.
This thread will help all, possibility to use S4 sensors in CyanogenMod & lot more
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Waiting for reply guys
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This is interesting. Brainstorming Is needed to help out
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Samsung probably have APIs for those sensors...
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theo80 said:
Samsung probably have APIs for those sensors...
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I had searched their dev site.
But, didn't found anything.
Would be great if they have or release API for it.
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Hi, from a developer point of view do you think the app will be commercially viable?
Since it will cauwe so many battery drains
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Shake it, baby!
I think I could use a "shake-to-lock" feature as well a "hold X button & shake-to-unlock" feature when the phone is locked using a password, a pin or even a pattern.
Just my 2c...

chintz24 said:
Hi, from a developer point of view do you think the app will be commercially viable?
Since it will cauwe so many battery drains
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Yep, did you tried my app it doesn't even consume any battery.
So, why can't this
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msxDr0id said:
I think I could use a "shake-to-lock" feature as well a "hold X button & shake-to-unlock" feature when the phone is locked using a password, a pin or even a pattern.
Just my 2c...
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Thanks, the first feature is already present just the 2nd is great idea.
Thanks for your idea.
Just, post your real name. So, that I could add it in credits when my app will that 2nd feature you said.
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Don't make it obvious
No prob, enjoy
What I do really believe is that the unlock feature shouldn't be noted anywhere as it would totally invalidate the locking feature itself, it has to be the owner's 'little secret'!
Cheers.

msxDr0id said:
No prob, enjoy
What I do really believe is that the unlock feature shouldn't be noted anywhere as it would totally invalidate the locking feature itself, it has to be the owner's 'little secret'!
Cheers.
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Cool, but the users wouldn't get it.
Maybe, you could suggest some other way.
Now, we are going off topic
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interesting , something like 3 waves unlocks s4, and 2 shows info
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offdotba said:
interesting , something like 3 waves unlocks s4, and 2 shows info
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Soon, to be implemented
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offdotba said:
interesting , something like 3 waves unlocks s4, and 2 shows info
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For that combo I want to see a droid doing a fatality to a bitten apple, lol!
I don't know, something simple like the droid burning the apple with his laser sight and the apple turning into a roasted one like those from the fairs and carnivals :victory:
Yeah, something simple... XD
@akshay:
"Cool, but the users wouldn't get it.
Maybe, you could suggest some other way.
Now, we are going off topic"
That's precisely the point!
The owner of the phone should be the ONLY ONE to know that an alternate unlock method is available, if somebody else knows about it... well.. PUFF! the surprise/cloak factor goes away
So, if you are the owner of the phone or tablet and along the normal locking methods (pattern, pwd, pin) you decide to implement this alternate, quick unlock method we can safely assume that you know what you're doing and in the event you forget the keys combination for the quick unlock you can always unlock your device the traditional way
In fact, the alternate, quick unlock method should be used when alone or with the people you care and you should rigorously stick with the traditional unlock method in front of strangers.
Call me paranoid but I believe I'm just cautious.
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MOREOVER: you must bear in mind that if you ultimately develop this feature then is matter of time that it's getting noticed so you need to find a *perfect blend* (nothing less) between security & usability, something that sounds easy when thinking in loud voice but starts getting complex once you start to draw on the board.
If the person that got your gadget happens to know about this type of secondary-unlock method he/she can easily try some combinations to unlock the phone.
Just take your time to analyze what could be the best way to implement it

msxDr0id said:
For that combo I want to see a droid doing a fatality to a bitten apple, lol!
I don't know, something simple like the droid burning the apple with his laser sight and the apple turning into a roasted one like those from the fairs and carnivals :victory:
Yeah, something simple... XD
@akshay:
"Cool, but the users wouldn't get it.
Maybe, you could suggest some other way.
Now, we are going off topic"
That's precisely the point!
The owner of the phone should be the ONLY ONE to know that an alternate unlock method is available, if somebody else knows about it... well.. PUFF! the surprise/cloak factor goes away
So, if you are the owner of the phone or tablet and along the normal locking methods (pattern, pwd, pin) you decide to implement this alternate, quick unlock method we can safely assume that you know what you're doing and in the event you forget the keys combination for the quick unlock you can always unlock your device the traditional way
In fact, the alternate, quick unlock method should be used when alone or with the people you care and you should rigorously stick with the traditional unlock method in front of strangers.
Call me paranoid but I believe I'm just cautious.
---------- Post added at 12:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:11 PM ----------
MOREOVER: you must bear in mind that if you ultimately develop this feature then is matter of time that it's getting noticed so you need to find a *perfect blend* (nothing less) between security & usability, something that sounds easy when thinking in loud voice but starts getting complex once you start to draw on the board.
If the person that got your gadget happens to know about this type of secondary-unlock method he/she can easily try some combinations to unlock the phone.
Just take your time to analyze what could be the best way to implement it
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I can try to implement the feature you want. Actually, I tried it.
The shake to lock & shake + key to unlock.
Privacy Factor :
The user of the device will only know that feature as he will be the one using the app.
I tried of using Power key but I failed maybe I should try more to use it. But, I can try using other keys like volume, menu key, etc.
I think of keeping an option to change the key according to the user opinion & key availability on device.
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Hey, guys
Doesn't any one know how to use those sensors ???
Would be really helpful.