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Questions: MMS's coming from different number / Official RC30 build / Jailbreak + OTA

You see, I am having this problem where MMS's sent by someone to someone else are coming from my number and I called T-Mobile's G1 Support Dept and they want to sent me an OTA, but they need me to go into my settings and give them the exact firmware version I read there. Problem is I am jailbroken, so I didn't want to give them that, so I said I was on my cell and did not have another phone around I could use to call them back (which was actually true). So I have the following three questions:
1) Is anybody experiencing the same problem as me? Feel free to comment here or in the original post on HoFo.
2) What does the official build description read? I want to give them that one instead when I call back.
3) If I am jailbroken, is it OK to receive OTA's from T-Mobile? Will I even receive them? Will they install successfully? Will my jailbreak break?
Thanks a lot in advance!

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if you changed your phone to use the developer keyset (ie: JF's androidmod + modded rc 30), you should be fine even if they send it to you it wouldn't install because your phone now wants updates signed with the dev keys not the REAL tmob/htc keys...
I doubt it would fix your problem anyway, could somebody be "spoofing" the messages with "your caller id info" there are websites that will do this for txt, mms & even voice calls, that would be my guess.
Every once in a while the sms msg centers will just wig out and do wacky stuff from time to time, I have had messages show up hours and even days after they were sent, somebody the otherday msg'd me saying I had sent them a text, I hadn't (i checked sent msgs folder) so who knows it could have been just an anomolly.
bhang

this occurred shortly after the initial launch of the G1. some suggested wiping the phone, but not sure if that fixed the issue. maybe you could reinstall jf's RC30 and then wipe and then restore your info.... might help?

bhang said:
if you changed your phone to use the developer keyset (ie: JF's androidmod + modded rc 30), you should be fine even if they send it to you it wouldn't install because your phone now wants updates signed with the dev keys not the REAL tmob/htc keys...
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I think that's what I did, so I guess I won't be calling TMo back and I guess I'll have to live with this for now, having people I don't know message me weekly asking, "Who's this?" I just need to make sure I don't send anything compromising if I sent MMS's. *LOL*
bhang said:
I doubt it would fix your problem anyway, could somebody be "spoofing" the messages with "your caller id info" there are websites that will do this for txt, mms & even voice calls, that would be my guess.
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Not at all. In both cases, the people asking who I was because they received a picture from my number confirmed they know the person who sent it to them and they did nothing special to send those messages, just use the native Messaging application.
bhang said:
somebody the otherday msg'd me saying I had sent them a text, I hadn't (i checked sent msgs folder) so who knows it could have been just an anomolly.
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This sounds exactly like what I have been experiencing, only I have only seen it happen with MMS's, not SMS's.

korndub said:
this occurred shortly after the initial launch of the G1. some suggested wiping the phone, but not sure if that fixed the issue. maybe you could reinstall jf's RC30 and then wipe and then restore your info.... might help?
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I never saw reports of this before. Guess I missed them. See my response above. I will just wait and see what happens. Most likely, this is TMo screwing up and once enough people complain and TMo realizes the liability they have in their hands, they will move and fix this. Besides, I just saw in one of the threads that we should be able to install Cupcake, so I will explore that or wait for the next jailbreak update.

this was happening to me as well and it happened to be my father's iphone account weird, but yes i get really scared when i send my gf stuff now lol from my gmail account. i grabbed his phone to make sure he didn't see anything and just make sure it addressed to the right person when you send lol
i also input my contact into and when my father texts me (yes he just learned), the sender is my email address....odd
idk how to change it....
hbguy

I insist. 611 from your G1 and complain. T-Mobile needs to get the pressure to move enough resources to address this.

This same thing has been happening to me. I am using an iPhone with SwirlyMMS. I did notice that when people responded to me with a MMS asking me "Who is this?", according to my.t-mobile.com my texts were originating from India or Russia, but were from people's real cell phone numbers in the US. I know this, because one of the numbers in question called me and they were from NYC.

this has happend to my girlfriend a few months back and she has a tmo sidekick 3. Also, about 8 months ago my roomate was getting phone calls from all over the U.S. from people trying to reach other peole after about 10 phone calls i called his phone from mine (tmo wing at the time) and it went to someone else. I then hung up and tried a few minutes later and it went to someone different. He called t-mobile and they said they havnt recieved any other complaints and told him to restart his phone. He did, it did nothing. but over the next few days it seemed to fix itself, of t-mobile had found the problem. But back to the mms, My girlfriend now owns a G1 and just a few days ago i sent her a picture of my dog and it said it came from someone else. we both have G1's mine has root hers does not so i dont think it has anything to do with your phone.

this happened to my wife and I right around x-mas and it only lasted a few days. she relied to a text I sent and it went to NY, 'cause they called back and told us where they were from... and they had t-mobile. It quit after a couple of days and haven't had a problem with it since then.

Engadget: Android sends texts to wrong people, murders your family while you sleep

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/31/android-still-has-horrible-text-messaging-bugs-thatll-get-you-f/
Is this really a widespread problem, or is it more Engadget anti-Android propaganda?

Not sure but I haven't experienced it in almost a year of using several android devices.

I use Handcent, so I have no idea what they're talking about.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk

Read the source links.

For the record, I love android. I hate all the anti-android crap going around. But I have experienced this before. One time upon booting up, my contacts were all mixed up with the wrong numbers. It was so weird. My friend became my dads name on there and another friend became my cousins whom I never texted. So when they texted me I saw the names and was like wtf? How do they know about (whatever we were chatting about earlier). Took another reboot and everything was fine. I also experienced the phone clicking on the wrong thread that I pressed, that definitely happens. I've learned to double check who Im texting.

Is this fixed by using a different SMS app then? Apparently it happens with e-mails, too, but only with the default e-mail app.

I have been using an HD2, that dual boots WM 6.5 and Android 2.2 Froyo, never had this problem.
My daughter uses a Behold 2 and sends and receives over 16000 text messages per month, and never a problem like this.
I think it's more hate against Android, since it is starting to get a strong hold of the smartphone market.
I'm also sure it's a lot of user error too.

Google just updated this to critical, so I'm guessing it'll be patched pretty soon.

It happens to me at least twice a week. I actually switched to handcent it was so bad. Thankfully I never had anything truly embarrassing go to the wrong person, but I have had some confusing moment...The worst was when I carried out a long conversations with the wrong person... The problem happens when you click on the new message item in the notification menu without actually opening it up through the messaging app. You see the correct reply thread, and it is only when you press send that you realize it sent to the wrong person. This is very real, but I used to think it was just my phone.

lmao. This is just amusing.
The ONLY time I ever got the bug was when I received a new message, I used the drop down menu bar to view the message, and this was on a beta froyo build. Any time I went through the regular messaging app, everything was fine. Last I read in a forum long ago burried, only time the bug happened was when you used the drop down...

I've used Android since the G1 was released and don't remember ever experiencing this issue. But if it is an issue, then it needs media attention to get Google to fix it as quick as possible. Although, the problem is getting the fix out, since you know, all these carriers and manufacturers take forever to get an OTA out.

Google said:
Hi all,
I want to let everyone know that we are actively investigating this issue, and we hope to have an update soon. Obviously, this is a very difficult to reproduce bug.
Rather than replying "me too", you can star this issue to follow it. Just saying "me too" just obscures the useful information in this bug, and makes it harder to fix. Of course, if you have useful information to add to the bug, such as a system dump or an insightful analysis of the code, feel free to update the bug with your observations.
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So they are now investigating this. I'll be using Handcent on my DHD until they sort it.

tooter1 said:
I have been using an HD2, that dual boots WM 6.5 and Android 2.2 Froyo, never had this problem.
My daughter uses a Behold 2 and sends and receives over 16000 text messages per month, and never a problem like this.
I think it's more hate against Android, since it is starting to get a strong hold of the smartphone market.
I'm also sure it's a lot of user error too.
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16,000? I'm sure most networks in the UK have a 3,000 FUP
Anyway, I haven't experienced this issue in the 18 months I've been using Android

LooieENG said:
16,000? I'm sure most networks in the UK have a 3,000 FUP
Anyway, I haven't experienced this issue in the 18 months I've been using Android
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I can believe 16,000. My 17 year old sister has about 10,000 a month. Unlimited texting, ftw.

I've been using Android since the release of the HTC Dream in Canada and I've never ever ever ran into this problem, and most of the ROMs I've ran have been beta or experimental. I'm thinking they're blowing it out of proportion.

TheBiles said:
I can believe 16,000. My 17 year old sister has about 10,000 a month. Unlimited texting, ftw.
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When we were on Verizon, one month it was up to 39,000. I was floored. That is when I was like thank goodness for.....Unlimited Texting FTW!
Still no problems like this.

I've never had this problem and Goggle has made a press release and said they are having a hard time replicating it. I think that there could be an error that happens once in a blue moon, but I think most of the time it's just user error.
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TheBiles said:
I can believe 16,000. My 17 year old sister has about 10,000 a month. Unlimited texting, ftw.
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Oh yeah, I believe it. I'm just curious as to how their fingers haven't worn to the bone yet?

Googles claiming they can't reproduce this internally and they've only upped it's status cause of bad publicity. That's what androidguys claim ...
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Yeah sometimes when I get a message I click on the thing in the drop down menu and it takes me to another thread, but I'm pretty sure the point of clicking that button is just for it to get you to the messaging app. Also sometimes I go to the messaging app and click the top thread and it takes me to a different thread. So this bug is true at times.

160 Character Limit for HTC Arrive

Hello Everyone,
I just got the Arrive and I'm loving it, but something weird is happening. For some reason, when I'm writing a txt, it just flat out stops at 160 characters and doesn't continue the message with an auto-split.
I called into Sprint, HTC, and Windows Phone support and they all think" woah, that's weird" and the majority of tech support didn't even know it had launched already. I also read the manual from Sprint, HTC, and from Microsoft stating that 160+ characters will be auto-split.
Since the phone is so new, as well as NoDo and such, I have not seen anything about this issue and it's driving me mad. My only theory is that for some unknown reason Microsoft limited the txt messaging in CDMA WP7 to 160 because CDMA doesn't handle 160+ characters well. If this is the case, WTF?!
I know there are very few of you who have an Arrive, but anybody have this same problem? Anybody have any ideas on how to fix this?
The only workaround I have is sending the message incomplete and continuing it with another (and that makes me feel like I'm using my old Nokia with Snake. I haven't had a phone that couldn't handle more than 160 characters before)

Mine does the same thing, while it is a little annoying until it get resolved sending it parts is the only work around.

Well that's lame.
Why does it seem like Microsoft is just dropping the ball with the basics on Windows Phone 7? I love the OS to pieces and I really like the phone, but these little nuances (along with simple things like changing colors, custom ringtones, group contacts, etc) are just plain unacceptable.

Also, I noticed something about the Arrive.
The OS version is 7.0.7389.0
but the NoDo being pushed today is 7.0.7390.0
That 0.0.0001.0 Might be all the difference, at least I hope so. It means a posibility of a tiny update

I wouldn't count on any updates in the forseeable future. And FWIW the manual for the phone says that it will break up messages longer than 160 characters, so this definitely sounds like a bug.
-R

I just learned this might be unique only to the Arrive

It is, I have the arrive and buddy has focus with nodo, his splits texts fine.
ScottSUmmers said:
I just learned this might be unique only to the Arrive
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Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

It must be all Arrives, because mine does the same thing. It's very annoying when you're used to having your texts auto-split. My Touch Pro 2 split text messages just fine, so I see no reason that it should be a problem with the Arrive. Hopefully this gets fixed soon.
Sent from my T7575 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

My Arrive does the same thing. Of course, I didn't read the manual, so I wasn't aware that it was supposed to work differently (but had expected it to since even my WM5.0 Cingular 8125 did it).
And I've already heard that the .0001 isn't significant in terms of build number. CDMA vs GSM difference only.

Its an issue with Microsoft not implementing proper code for CDMA text splitting its annoying but they'll fix it.

Hi, I am an employee of Sprint. The HTC Arrive was intended to allow users to exceed 160 characters by automatically creating a new message after 160 characters is exceeded. This is explained on pg. 83 of the HTC Arrive User Guide. Currently the device will not allow users to exceed the 160 character limit. This has been recognized as a known issue and Sprint has asked Microsoft to address this issue in a future update.

Looks like it wasn't fixed in Mango. At least not for me

...
I am so tempted to ditch my Arrive right *now*. Sprint/HTC has been notified many times over about this issue. They had time to fix it. There is no excuse for this.
EDIT: Anyone know if Verizon HTC Trophy owners are having the same limit? I'm hearing *nothing* from that sector.

Chris-h11 said:
Looks like it wasn't fixed in Mango. At least not for me
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It wasn't. This was the single thing I was most looking forward to. If they didn't update it with Mango, I suspect it will never be fixed.
I really hope that Sprint releases a new device, as I am ready a Windows Phone variant of the Galaxy SII.

Got the update notification. Updated, and sure enough, that limit is still there.
I don't think any words can sum up how much rage I am feeling right now. I really just want to throw caution to the wind and grab a Photon 4G.
To note: If this limit was stated clearly in the manual, I wouldn't have a problem with it. It is the fact that this is a feature that is SUPPOSED TO EXIST, but does not.

I son't understand why you're all raging of such a simple thing, I rarely need to write more than 160 chars in an SMS (a 1 minute call would be cheaper for me in that case ), but yeah it's apparently an Arrive-only bug because I don't have it in my HTC 7 Pro.

hassanselim0 said:
I son't understand why you're all raging of such a simple thing, I rarely need to write more than 160 chars in an SMS (a 1 minute call would be cheaper for me in that case ), but yeah it's apparently an Arrive-only bug because I don't have it in my HTC 7 Pro.
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Correct...last we knew it was a Sprint firmware issue as you can now type more than 160 chars but the phone won't send it. I haven't been over to BUZZ in a while but try seeing if the Buzz About Wireless people are talking about it since that's Sprint offical forum

The 7 Pro won't have an issue because it's GSM, and GSM can support it no problem.
Only the 7 Pro (US Cellular) and Arrive will have this issue.
And I regularly send messages that get close to or go over 160 characters, and rarely make phone calls. So for me, this is a pretty big deal.
EDIT: Got one person saying this isn't an issue on the CDMA Trophy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1280146
If this is the case, it's HTC/Sprint's problem, not Microsoft's.
EDIT: Got first-hand confirmation that this is now HTC/Sprint's problem:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anticitizen/6193110593/
That is a CDMA Trophy, doing a messaging split. I sent it to myself, and sure enough, it came through as two messages, but it did come through.

Btw, bump, just in case no one saw my edits. (Since they're a tad significant)
Yet another edit: Reached out to HTC over this. Gist of the response from them: We have no updates coming to fix any of the issues with the Arrive.

Going to give this one last bump, because seriously, this problem is really, really irritating.
I have some communication with HTC, but all I'm getting from them is "We'll notify you when we have more information!" Listen, I don't want more information. I just want to know if some kind of fix is being worked on. Or if they're going to get around to it. It's getting infuriating to wait on this.

[Q] Workaround for MMS problems?

Hello all,
So a brief intro before i delve into the slight inconvenience I'm experiencing. I came from an HTC HD2 running a custom MIUI rom found here on XDA. It worked fantastically until one day it decided to commit suicide via jumping out of my pocket and falling to the floor while I was on a ladder. Anyways, using that phone when I wanted to send a mms I could select the picture I wanted to send, hit send, and it would switch my data on, send the photo and then turn the data off and when receiving, it would do the same.
Fast forward to now, I bought this wonderful Infuse with it's huge screen and it's stock android and I was all set and excited until I tried sending/receiving picture messages. In order to do so, I have to manually turn on my data every time I want to do either. It's a stock official Gingerbread build via kies and the Samsung website and I'm only running a custom launcher through sslauncher. I've tried go sms pro and handcent sms and it's the same issue.
Is this just an issue with the phone itself? Gingerbread? Will a custom ROM fix the problem or is there another work around?
Thank for your help, it is greatly appreciated.

zachmerrill504 said:
Hello all,
So a brief intro before i delve into the slight inconvenience I'm experiencing. I came from an HTC HD2 running a custom MIUI rom found here on XDA. It worked fantastically until one day it decided to commit suicide via jumping out of my pocket and falling to the floor while I was on a ladder. Anyways, using that phone when I wanted to send a mms I could select the picture I wanted to send, hit send, and it would switch my data on, send the photo and then turn the data off and when receiving, it would do the same.
Fast forward to now, I bought this wonderful Infuse with it's huge screen and it's stock android and I was all set and excited until I tried sending/receiving picture messages. In order to do so, I have to manually turn on my data every time I want to do either. It's a stock official Gingerbread build via kies and the Samsung website and I'm only running a custom launcher through sslauncher. I've tried go sms pro and handcent sms and it's the same issue.
Is this just an issue with the phone itself? Gingerbread? Will a custom ROM fix the problem or is there another work around?
Thank for your help, it is greatly appreciated.
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That's just the way it is...been that way on every rom I've tried...but it probably is possible to modify the system files and what not to auto turn the data on for mms ...something I would not be able to do
Sent from my SGH-I997 using XDA

Thanks for the response.
I've noticed also every one I send, the data usage counter im using with zdbox keeps going down. It's a very small amount, .04 mb per picture, or something but if im paying for unlimited messaging that is supposed to include picture messages, why is that counting towards data usage? It's like I can receive the picture but in order to see it I have to use data to download it. kind of sucks

quick thing actually, just talked to an at&t rep and she said while you have to have the data option enable to send/receive, it shouldn't count toward the data usage plan. good news i guess :|

Why not turn it on and leave it on? You need data to get an mms. Its not infuse specific, rom specific, that's the way it is
Sent from XDA Premium on my Infuse 3.5G

joe3681 said:
Why not turn it on and leave it on? You need data to get an mms. Its not infuse specific, rom specific, that's the way it is
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Well I don't need it on all the time, so why drain the battery? I understand you need data to send/recieve mms, what I don't understand is why do I have to go into the settings menu to turn it on if I want to send/recieve every single time (yes I know there are apps and widgets, but that's not the point). Dumbphones could do this without the user having to go through menus to turn on data everytime a picture message comes through, why do I have to with a more advanced smartphone?
In a MIUI rom I had with my old HD2, I didn't have to do this. That's why I was asking.

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Well I don't need it on all the time, so why drain the battery? I understand you need data to send/recieve mms, what I don't understand is why do I have to go into the settings menu to turn it on if I want to send/recieve every single time (yes I know there are apps and widgets, but that's not the point). Dumbphones could do this without the user having to go through menus to turn on data everytime a picture message comes through, why do I have to with a more advanced smartphone?
In a MIUI rom I had with my old HD2, I didn't have to do this. That's why I was asking.
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Why cant i start my car by looking at it. Why do i need a key?!?! Use a widget, not the point? You want a custom rom? You're complaing cause you don't have a rom YOUR way. That's the way it is. If you're THAT paranoid about battery life tell people not to send you mms or maybe Id rethink the switching from a dumb phone to a smart phone.
Suggestions:
1. Suck it up
2. Make you're own rom
3. Use a widget for its intended purpose
4. Get an iphone, use iMessage on wifi
Sent from XDA Premium on my Infuse 3.5G

joe3681 said:
Why cant i start my car by looking at it. Why do i need a key?!?! Use a widget, not the point? You want a custom rom? You're complaing cause you don't have a rom YOUR way. That's the way it is. If you're THAT paranoid about battery life tell people not to send you mms or maybe Id rethink the switching from a dumb phone to a smart phone.
Suggestions:
1. Suck it up
2. Make you're own rom
3. Use a widget for its intended purpose
4. Get an iphone, use iMessage on wifi Sent from XDA Premium on my Infuse 3.5G
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@Joe3681...you are border line being an [email protected]@, i have noticed your posts in the threads...maybe your bored or maybe you just like it...you have given help and i thx you. But for the most part not....
We have acquired a help one, help all theme in the infuse family threads...sure we joke...but the [email protected]@ like attitudes are Noted, so if do or don't mind, throttle back on it.

joe3681 said:
Why cant i start my car by looking at it. Why do i need a key?!?! Use a widget, not the point? You want a custom rom? You're complaing cause you don't have a rom YOUR way. That's the way it is. If you're THAT paranoid about battery life tell people not to send you mms or maybe Id rethink the switching from a dumb phone to a smart phone.
Suggestions:
1. Suck it up
2. Make you're own rom
3. Use a widget for its intended purpose
4. Get an iphone, use iMessage on wifi
Sent from XDA Premium on my Infuse 3.5G
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The point is if you make something thats more advanced, more user intuitive and user friendly, why go back and make things more complicated thus being less user friendly than before? I was merely asking a question if there was something I wasn't seeing, or a setting I hadn't enabled yet, or something I was just merely missing because I only just got the phone. I know of other smartphones that have this capability, maybe it's a Samsung thing because the two HTC phones that my parents own don't have this issue. I said it was more of a minor inconvenience than a real problem, but nonetheless it's still there.

bigjoe2675 said:
@Joe3681...you are border line being an [email protected]@, i have noticed your posts in the threads...maybe your bored or maybe you just like it...you have given help and i thx you. But for the most part not....
We have acquired a help one, help all theme in the infuse family threads...sure we joke...but the [email protected]@ like attitudes are Noted, so if do or don't mind, throttle back on it.
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Private message material if I've ever seen it.
If I came on here adamant about "Well, I want to make things more difficult" "My old Nokia flip phone did this why doesn't this?!" And basically complaining when the reason for my problem was my stubbornness, the lovely folks here would be the same way!
Really though I think its an attitude that I get used to having at XDA. The infuse section isn't bad but A LOT of the people here are rude, ignorant deuchebags and would much rather ***** at you for asking a question than answer it and be done.
Sent from XDA Premium on my Infuse 3.5G

joe3681 said:
Private message material if I've ever seen it.
If I came on here adamant about "Well, I want to make things more difficult" "My old Nokia flip phone did this why doesn't this?!" And basically complaining when the reason for my problem was my stubbornness, the lovely folks here would be the same way!
Really though I think its an attitude that I get used to having at XDA. The infuse section isn't bad but A LOT of the people here are rude, ignorant deuchebags and would much rather ***** at you for asking a question than answer it and be done.
Sent from XDA Premium on my Infuse 3.5G
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No it is not pm material but my opinion...and i disagree on your thoughts of people here.

Closed for cleaning.

Does anyone else notice not getting MMS from iPhone users?

Just noticed this on my N5, someone with an iPhone sent me a pic via text and I get a "Unable to show image." with an X where the pic would be. Someone with a Blackberry and other Android phones can text me no issues.
My wife has an S4 and she also has this problem, texts from iPhone users don't come through.
We are on an AT&T plan with no contract, just switched from Sprint and we never noticed this issue on Sprint. (of course they had other issues)
Any idea on what this could be if it is only isolated to me? If it is a larger issue is there a resolution?
Thanks

Raistlin1 said:
Just noticed this on my N5, someone with an iPhone sent me a pic via text and I get a "Unable to show image." with an X where the pic would be. Someone with a Blackberry and other Android phones can text me no issues.
My wife has an S4 and she also has this problem, texts from iPhone users don't come through.
We are on an AT&T plan with no contract, just switched from Sprint and we never noticed this issue on Sprint. (of course they had other issues)
Any idea on what this could be if it is only isolated to me? If it is a larger issue is there a resolution?
Thanks
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Sounds like a stupid question, but what iPhone is it not sending it from ?

I red a recent article where Apple has admitted that it is an issue from their server end and they are trying to work on it. I think the issue is with people registering their SIM on imessage then using that SIM number on an android device. It's suppose to be feature for imessage to be able to send text back and forth on iPhone for free.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

I am in a group mms with:
2 x Iphone 5s
1 x Iphone 5
2 x Iphone 4s
1 x Iphone 4
1 x S4
and my nexus.
I generally won't get a response from one of the 4s even though she resonds, but my fiance's 4s works.
Don't know what's up with that.

bushako said:
I red a recent article where Apple has admitted that it is an issue from their server end and they are trying to work on it. I think the issue is with people registering their SIM on imessage then using that SIM number on an android device. It's suppose to be feature for imessage to be able to send text back and forth on iPhone for free.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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My issue is an iPhone user sending me or my wife an MMS message on our Android phones and us not getting the picture. Now if those iPhone users previously had Android phones or something else I have no idea.
But I have also read about what you posted, but not sure that relates to my issue.

dia_naji said:
Sounds like a stupid question, but what iPhone is it not sending it from ?
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I don't know what iPhone version the people are using, my friend had a 5 or 5s I think.

YES, yes I have!
It's kind of.. comforting to know that I'm not the only one.
It's insanely frustrating, though, that I can get MMS just fine from Android, and really, most of the time from iPhones.. but the ones that I know I am missing, all of them were from iPhones. Group messages, picture messages, it's a crapshoot as to whether or not they work, but my mom is the most frustrated with it that I am not receiving her messages in our family group messages. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one, and that my carrier isn't the issue. Is there an article about Apple admitting the faults?
One more thing - I've never had an iPhone, never had my number registered with iMessage.

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YES, yes I have!
It's kind of.. comforting to know that I'm not the only one.
It's insanely frustrating, though, that I can get MMS just fine from Android, and really, most of the time from iPhones.. but the ones that I know I am missing, all of them were from iPhones. Group messages, picture messages, it's a crapshoot as to whether or not they work, but my mom is the most frustrated with it that I am not receiving her messages in our family group messages. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one, and that my carrier isn't the issue. Is there an article about Apple admitting the faults?
One more thing - I've never had an iPhone, never had my number registered with iMessage.
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It seems that for some time now (years?) if there was ever a problem with mms it was with an iPhone. My sisters 5s works, but a 4 or 4s I don't always get their mms. I don't even worry about it any more. I just always figured it was some conspiracy perpetuated by the black turtle neck wearing nazi to screw with android when he was around! :laugh:

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It seems that for some time now (years?) if there was ever a problem with mms it was with an iPhone. My sisters 5s works, but a 4 or 4s I don't always get their mms. I don't even worry about it any more. I just always figured it was some conspiracy perpetuated by the black turtle neck wearing nazi to screw with android when he was around! :laugh:
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Was able to test this out last night. Out with a friend, he had his iPhone out and I asked him to send me a pic message. Nothing came through (full bars LTE). Had him send me a text message, came right through.

I've definitely been experiencing this intermittently for a few weeks now - I feel like I've also had an issue in general getting MMS bc my gf sends me stuff and i get it like half the time.
Or i get the message and it says unable to download, and never downloads

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Was able to test this out last night. Out with a friend, he had his iPhone out and I asked him to send me a pic message. Nothing came through (full bars LTE). Had him send me a text message, came right through.
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I really started to notice this a couple years ago or so. I bought my One X the week they came out and maybe a month or two later I got tired of not getting mms messages thinking it was my phone that was the problem. Called AT&T, they escalated it up to a couple different techs, phone calls back and forth, got an engineer involved. Checked that the data was set up right, that the sim was provisioned right, they sent messages to my phone, blah, blah, blah! Long story short, I came to the conclusion that failing to receive mms only happened when sent by an iPhone. And I've only ever received failed mms from the iPhone 4 and 4s, I don't remember any failed mms from the 5s (whatever the newest one is) or from other android devices. The funny thing is iPhone users ALWAYS receive mine. I don't know what's going on but I've seen it for some time now and on every device I've owned. Personally... I think it's an iOS and/or iMessage problem.

This is an Apple issue. They know of it but once they have their money they don't care, ESP with iPhone to android issues as they think the world should be apple
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This is an Apple issue. They know of it but once they have their money they don't care, ESP with iPhone to android issues as they think the world should be apple
From the wonders of mobile telephony.
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Any explanation on why it's just starting to happen? I never remember having this issue before.
Is it an iOS 7+ issue?

I have the same issue with receiving MMS messages from iPhone users. A family member was trying to send me an image of their new car and I kept thinking T-Mobile was having issues. Hopefully Apple pushes a fix soon.

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I really started to notice this a couple years ago or so. I bought my One X the week they came out and maybe a month or two later I got tired of not getting mms messages thinking it was my phone that was the problem. Called AT&T, they escalated it up to a couple different techs, phone calls back and forth, got an engineer involved. Checked that the data was set up right, that the sim was provisioned right, they sent messages to my phone, blah, blah, blah! Long story short, I came to the conclusion that failing to receive mms only happened when sent by an iPhone. And I've only ever received failed mms from the iPhone 4 and 4s, I don't remember any failed mms from the 5s (whatever the newest one is) or from other android devices. The funny thing is iPhone users ALWAYS receive mine. I don't know what's going on but I've seen it for some time now and on every device I've owned. Personally... I think it's an iOS and/or iMessage problem.
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So.. I may have figured it out.
I removed my cell phone number from my iTunes account information.
Still testing my theory, but.. I had sent the suggested text message to Apple for posterity, the one that is supposed to remove you from the iMessage database. I have never once used iMessage, but I figured better safe than sorry. While the message back confirmed my removal, I still had the issues, so I kept hunting. I came across an article (I've read through so many that they are all running together at this point, honestly) where someone mentioned iTunes, so I went in to my iTunes settings and removed my cell phone number from my iTunes account, replacing it with my MagicJack landline. I then texted the Apple number again for more posterity. Curious and excited, I asked a friend to attempt to send a picture message. Sure enough... IT. CAME. THROUGH!
I asked a few more iPhone friends to chip in, and everything seems to be more or less ducky right now. Group texts seem to come in again. Still testing, but it looks like a good start. If you have an iTunes account, I would highly recommend going in and removing any trace of your cell phone number from anything Apple, because it appears that something buggy with their databasing might cause your number to get into the iMessage catch-all. I'll keep you guys posted!
ALSO, a friend pointed out that the newest version of iTunes can receive iMessages because they want it to be cross-platform?? Who here uses iTunes and has the issue? That might be the ticket there..
Some timeline that I can come up with:
- I have never had an iPhone with active service.
- I HAVE, however, had an iPhone used only as a wifi device, but since that was an original iPhone, it never even got up to the firmware update that included iMessage, so.. not sure how relevant that even is.
- I have not purchased any music on iTunes in quite a long while, probably a year or so. Haven't updated my information, either.
- I did just reformat my computer and reinstall the newest version of iTunes, which I guess was around a month ago, which was probably about the time I started having issues (correlation doesn't imply causation, I know).
TL;DR: Try removing your cell phone number entirely from your computer's iTunes account, it might work!
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TXRaunchy said:
I generally won't get a response from one of the 4s even though she resonds, but my fiance's 4s works.
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Raistlin1 said:
My issue is an iPhone user sending me or my wife an MMS message on our Android phones and us not getting the picture.
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AceKingNYC said:
I've definitely been experiencing this intermittently for a few weeks now
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I'd be interested for you to guys to check out my post above and see if it applies. I feel like I might be on the path to figuring out what's causing all of this..

I think that is entirely wishful thinking on your part! If it works great but I'm extremely skeptical. I have never purchased or owned an Apple product and I have never used iTunes. Before the One X I had the HTC Aria and before that I had a Samsung Jack windows mobile device and before that numerous Nokia's. I personally know people that use an iPhone 4 or 4s and I expect that their mms will occasionally fail, not always but often enough to be annoying. I don't even say anything to them anymore. It's definitely not as bad now as it was before the 5 and 5s came out. A lot of the iSheep have the 5s now and I don't have a problem receiving mms from that phone, yet! Like I said before "I just always figured it was some conspiracy perpetuated by the black turtle-neck wearing nazi to screw with android when he was around!"

I have received MMS ok from iOS users but group messaging sucks ass, I could never send a group message without it sending individually to each person in the chat. I think apple just doesn't like android
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Perhaps this article could shed some light on this issue
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/22/tech/mobile/aple-imessage-problems-fix/
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bushako said:
Perhaps this article could shed some light on this issue
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/22/tech/mobile/aple-imessage-problems-fix/
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That acknowledges the issue of someone having an iPhone and switching to a different OS and having issues, but what about those of us who never had an iPhone?

Okay could you try and sign out of iMessage from the iPhone and then try sending the MMS?
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