160 Character Limit for HTC Arrive - HTC 7 Pro

Hello Everyone,
I just got the Arrive and I'm loving it, but something weird is happening. For some reason, when I'm writing a txt, it just flat out stops at 160 characters and doesn't continue the message with an auto-split.
I called into Sprint, HTC, and Windows Phone support and they all think" woah, that's weird" and the majority of tech support didn't even know it had launched already. I also read the manual from Sprint, HTC, and from Microsoft stating that 160+ characters will be auto-split.
Since the phone is so new, as well as NoDo and such, I have not seen anything about this issue and it's driving me mad. My only theory is that for some unknown reason Microsoft limited the txt messaging in CDMA WP7 to 160 because CDMA doesn't handle 160+ characters well. If this is the case, WTF?!
I know there are very few of you who have an Arrive, but anybody have this same problem? Anybody have any ideas on how to fix this?
The only workaround I have is sending the message incomplete and continuing it with another (and that makes me feel like I'm using my old Nokia with Snake. I haven't had a phone that couldn't handle more than 160 characters before)

Mine does the same thing, while it is a little annoying until it get resolved sending it parts is the only work around.

Well that's lame.
Why does it seem like Microsoft is just dropping the ball with the basics on Windows Phone 7? I love the OS to pieces and I really like the phone, but these little nuances (along with simple things like changing colors, custom ringtones, group contacts, etc) are just plain unacceptable.

Also, I noticed something about the Arrive.
The OS version is 7.0.7389.0
but the NoDo being pushed today is 7.0.7390.0
That 0.0.0001.0 Might be all the difference, at least I hope so. It means a posibility of a tiny update

I wouldn't count on any updates in the forseeable future. And FWIW the manual for the phone says that it will break up messages longer than 160 characters, so this definitely sounds like a bug.
-R

I just learned this might be unique only to the Arrive

It is, I have the arrive and buddy has focus with nodo, his splits texts fine.
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I just learned this might be unique only to the Arrive
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It must be all Arrives, because mine does the same thing. It's very annoying when you're used to having your texts auto-split. My Touch Pro 2 split text messages just fine, so I see no reason that it should be a problem with the Arrive. Hopefully this gets fixed soon.
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My Arrive does the same thing. Of course, I didn't read the manual, so I wasn't aware that it was supposed to work differently (but had expected it to since even my WM5.0 Cingular 8125 did it).
And I've already heard that the .0001 isn't significant in terms of build number. CDMA vs GSM difference only.

Its an issue with Microsoft not implementing proper code for CDMA text splitting its annoying but they'll fix it.

Hi, I am an employee of Sprint. The HTC Arrive was intended to allow users to exceed 160 characters by automatically creating a new message after 160 characters is exceeded. This is explained on pg. 83 of the HTC Arrive User Guide. Currently the device will not allow users to exceed the 160 character limit. This has been recognized as a known issue and Sprint has asked Microsoft to address this issue in a future update.

Looks like it wasn't fixed in Mango. At least not for me

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I am so tempted to ditch my Arrive right *now*. Sprint/HTC has been notified many times over about this issue. They had time to fix it. There is no excuse for this.
EDIT: Anyone know if Verizon HTC Trophy owners are having the same limit? I'm hearing *nothing* from that sector.

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Looks like it wasn't fixed in Mango. At least not for me
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It wasn't. This was the single thing I was most looking forward to. If they didn't update it with Mango, I suspect it will never be fixed.
I really hope that Sprint releases a new device, as I am ready a Windows Phone variant of the Galaxy SII.

Got the update notification. Updated, and sure enough, that limit is still there.
I don't think any words can sum up how much rage I am feeling right now. I really just want to throw caution to the wind and grab a Photon 4G.
To note: If this limit was stated clearly in the manual, I wouldn't have a problem with it. It is the fact that this is a feature that is SUPPOSED TO EXIST, but does not.

I son't understand why you're all raging of such a simple thing, I rarely need to write more than 160 chars in an SMS (a 1 minute call would be cheaper for me in that case ), but yeah it's apparently an Arrive-only bug because I don't have it in my HTC 7 Pro.

hassanselim0 said:
I son't understand why you're all raging of such a simple thing, I rarely need to write more than 160 chars in an SMS (a 1 minute call would be cheaper for me in that case ), but yeah it's apparently an Arrive-only bug because I don't have it in my HTC 7 Pro.
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Correct...last we knew it was a Sprint firmware issue as you can now type more than 160 chars but the phone won't send it. I haven't been over to BUZZ in a while but try seeing if the Buzz About Wireless people are talking about it since that's Sprint offical forum

The 7 Pro won't have an issue because it's GSM, and GSM can support it no problem.
Only the 7 Pro (US Cellular) and Arrive will have this issue.
And I regularly send messages that get close to or go over 160 characters, and rarely make phone calls. So for me, this is a pretty big deal.
EDIT: Got one person saying this isn't an issue on the CDMA Trophy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1280146
If this is the case, it's HTC/Sprint's problem, not Microsoft's.
EDIT: Got first-hand confirmation that this is now HTC/Sprint's problem:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/anticitizen/6193110593/
That is a CDMA Trophy, doing a messaging split. I sent it to myself, and sure enough, it came through as two messages, but it did come through.

Btw, bump, just in case no one saw my edits. (Since they're a tad significant)
Yet another edit: Reached out to HTC over this. Gist of the response from them: We have no updates coming to fix any of the issues with the Arrive.

Going to give this one last bump, because seriously, this problem is really, really irritating.
I have some communication with HTC, but all I'm getting from them is "We'll notify you when we have more information!" Listen, I don't want more information. I just want to know if some kind of fix is being worked on. Or if they're going to get around to it. It's getting infuriating to wait on this.

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Questions: MMS's coming from different number / Official RC30 build / Jailbreak + OTA

You see, I am having this problem where MMS's sent by someone to someone else are coming from my number and I called T-Mobile's G1 Support Dept and they want to sent me an OTA, but they need me to go into my settings and give them the exact firmware version I read there. Problem is I am jailbroken, so I didn't want to give them that, so I said I was on my cell and did not have another phone around I could use to call them back (which was actually true). So I have the following three questions:
1) Is anybody experiencing the same problem as me? Feel free to comment here or in the original post on HoFo.
2) What does the official build description read? I want to give them that one instead when I call back.
3) If I am jailbroken, is it OK to receive OTA's from T-Mobile? Will I even receive them? Will they install successfully? Will my jailbreak break?
Thanks a lot in advance!
more info needed
if you changed your phone to use the developer keyset (ie: JF's androidmod + modded rc 30), you should be fine even if they send it to you it wouldn't install because your phone now wants updates signed with the dev keys not the REAL tmob/htc keys...
I doubt it would fix your problem anyway, could somebody be "spoofing" the messages with "your caller id info" there are websites that will do this for txt, mms & even voice calls, that would be my guess.
Every once in a while the sms msg centers will just wig out and do wacky stuff from time to time, I have had messages show up hours and even days after they were sent, somebody the otherday msg'd me saying I had sent them a text, I hadn't (i checked sent msgs folder) so who knows it could have been just an anomolly.
bhang
this occurred shortly after the initial launch of the G1. some suggested wiping the phone, but not sure if that fixed the issue. maybe you could reinstall jf's RC30 and then wipe and then restore your info.... might help?
bhang said:
if you changed your phone to use the developer keyset (ie: JF's androidmod + modded rc 30), you should be fine even if they send it to you it wouldn't install because your phone now wants updates signed with the dev keys not the REAL tmob/htc keys...
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I think that's what I did, so I guess I won't be calling TMo back and I guess I'll have to live with this for now, having people I don't know message me weekly asking, "Who's this?" I just need to make sure I don't send anything compromising if I sent MMS's. *LOL*
bhang said:
I doubt it would fix your problem anyway, could somebody be "spoofing" the messages with "your caller id info" there are websites that will do this for txt, mms & even voice calls, that would be my guess.
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Not at all. In both cases, the people asking who I was because they received a picture from my number confirmed they know the person who sent it to them and they did nothing special to send those messages, just use the native Messaging application.
bhang said:
somebody the otherday msg'd me saying I had sent them a text, I hadn't (i checked sent msgs folder) so who knows it could have been just an anomolly.
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This sounds exactly like what I have been experiencing, only I have only seen it happen with MMS's, not SMS's.
korndub said:
this occurred shortly after the initial launch of the G1. some suggested wiping the phone, but not sure if that fixed the issue. maybe you could reinstall jf's RC30 and then wipe and then restore your info.... might help?
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I never saw reports of this before. Guess I missed them. See my response above. I will just wait and see what happens. Most likely, this is TMo screwing up and once enough people complain and TMo realizes the liability they have in their hands, they will move and fix this. Besides, I just saw in one of the threads that we should be able to install Cupcake, so I will explore that or wait for the next jailbreak update.
this was happening to me as well and it happened to be my father's iphone account weird, but yes i get really scared when i send my gf stuff now lol from my gmail account. i grabbed his phone to make sure he didn't see anything and just make sure it addressed to the right person when you send lol
i also input my contact into and when my father texts me (yes he just learned), the sender is my email address....odd
idk how to change it....
hbguy
I insist. 611 from your G1 and complain. T-Mobile needs to get the pressure to move enough resources to address this.
This same thing has been happening to me. I am using an iPhone with SwirlyMMS. I did notice that when people responded to me with a MMS asking me "Who is this?", according to my.t-mobile.com my texts were originating from India or Russia, but were from people's real cell phone numbers in the US. I know this, because one of the numbers in question called me and they were from NYC.
this has happend to my girlfriend a few months back and she has a tmo sidekick 3. Also, about 8 months ago my roomate was getting phone calls from all over the U.S. from people trying to reach other peole after about 10 phone calls i called his phone from mine (tmo wing at the time) and it went to someone else. I then hung up and tried a few minutes later and it went to someone different. He called t-mobile and they said they havnt recieved any other complaints and told him to restart his phone. He did, it did nothing. but over the next few days it seemed to fix itself, of t-mobile had found the problem. But back to the mms, My girlfriend now owns a G1 and just a few days ago i sent her a picture of my dog and it said it came from someone else. we both have G1's mine has root hers does not so i dont think it has anything to do with your phone.
this happened to my wife and I right around x-mas and it only lasted a few days. she relied to a text I sent and it went to NY, 'cause they called back and told us where they were from... and they had t-mobile. It quit after a couple of days and haven't had a problem with it since then.

Engadget: Android sends texts to wrong people, murders your family while you sleep

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/31/android-still-has-horrible-text-messaging-bugs-thatll-get-you-f/
Is this really a widespread problem, or is it more Engadget anti-Android propaganda?
Not sure but I haven't experienced it in almost a year of using several android devices.
I use Handcent, so I have no idea what they're talking about.
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Read the source links.
For the record, I love android. I hate all the anti-android crap going around. But I have experienced this before. One time upon booting up, my contacts were all mixed up with the wrong numbers. It was so weird. My friend became my dads name on there and another friend became my cousins whom I never texted. So when they texted me I saw the names and was like wtf? How do they know about (whatever we were chatting about earlier). Took another reboot and everything was fine. I also experienced the phone clicking on the wrong thread that I pressed, that definitely happens. I've learned to double check who Im texting.
Is this fixed by using a different SMS app then? Apparently it happens with e-mails, too, but only with the default e-mail app.
I have been using an HD2, that dual boots WM 6.5 and Android 2.2 Froyo, never had this problem.
My daughter uses a Behold 2 and sends and receives over 16000 text messages per month, and never a problem like this.
I think it's more hate against Android, since it is starting to get a strong hold of the smartphone market.
I'm also sure it's a lot of user error too.
Google just updated this to critical, so I'm guessing it'll be patched pretty soon.
It happens to me at least twice a week. I actually switched to handcent it was so bad. Thankfully I never had anything truly embarrassing go to the wrong person, but I have had some confusing moment...The worst was when I carried out a long conversations with the wrong person... The problem happens when you click on the new message item in the notification menu without actually opening it up through the messaging app. You see the correct reply thread, and it is only when you press send that you realize it sent to the wrong person. This is very real, but I used to think it was just my phone.
lmao. This is just amusing.
The ONLY time I ever got the bug was when I received a new message, I used the drop down menu bar to view the message, and this was on a beta froyo build. Any time I went through the regular messaging app, everything was fine. Last I read in a forum long ago burried, only time the bug happened was when you used the drop down...
I've used Android since the G1 was released and don't remember ever experiencing this issue. But if it is an issue, then it needs media attention to get Google to fix it as quick as possible. Although, the problem is getting the fix out, since you know, all these carriers and manufacturers take forever to get an OTA out.
Google said:
Hi all,
I want to let everyone know that we are actively investigating this issue, and we hope to have an update soon. Obviously, this is a very difficult to reproduce bug.
Rather than replying "me too", you can star this issue to follow it. Just saying "me too" just obscures the useful information in this bug, and makes it harder to fix. Of course, if you have useful information to add to the bug, such as a system dump or an insightful analysis of the code, feel free to update the bug with your observations.
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So they are now investigating this. I'll be using Handcent on my DHD until they sort it.
tooter1 said:
I have been using an HD2, that dual boots WM 6.5 and Android 2.2 Froyo, never had this problem.
My daughter uses a Behold 2 and sends and receives over 16000 text messages per month, and never a problem like this.
I think it's more hate against Android, since it is starting to get a strong hold of the smartphone market.
I'm also sure it's a lot of user error too.
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16,000? I'm sure most networks in the UK have a 3,000 FUP
Anyway, I haven't experienced this issue in the 18 months I've been using Android
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16,000? I'm sure most networks in the UK have a 3,000 FUP
Anyway, I haven't experienced this issue in the 18 months I've been using Android
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I can believe 16,000. My 17 year old sister has about 10,000 a month. Unlimited texting, ftw.
I've been using Android since the release of the HTC Dream in Canada and I've never ever ever ran into this problem, and most of the ROMs I've ran have been beta or experimental. I'm thinking they're blowing it out of proportion.
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I can believe 16,000. My 17 year old sister has about 10,000 a month. Unlimited texting, ftw.
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When we were on Verizon, one month it was up to 39,000. I was floored. That is when I was like thank goodness for.....Unlimited Texting FTW!
Still no problems like this.
I've never had this problem and Goggle has made a press release and said they are having a hard time replicating it. I think that there could be an error that happens once in a blue moon, but I think most of the time it's just user error.
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I can believe 16,000. My 17 year old sister has about 10,000 a month. Unlimited texting, ftw.
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Oh yeah, I believe it. I'm just curious as to how their fingers haven't worn to the bone yet?
Googles claiming they can't reproduce this internally and they've only upped it's status cause of bad publicity. That's what androidguys claim ...
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Yeah sometimes when I get a message I click on the thing in the drop down menu and it takes me to another thread, but I'm pretty sure the point of clicking that button is just for it to get you to the messaging app. Also sometimes I go to the messaging app and click the top thread and it takes me to a different thread. So this bug is true at times.

im turning into I'm bug

I appreciate that WP7 autocorrects certain contractions. However, WP7 only corrects im to I'm when it is at the beginning of a sentence. If I type im on my hardware keyboard mid sentence it does not turn into I'm. Can this be fixed by a a dev or do I need to complain to Microsoft and HTC. I also don't know if this bug is specific to my HTC 7 Pro or to all WP7 phones.
I'm thinking this must be specific to you.
I'm running the HTC Arrive and I tried 3 or 4 times and it corrected 'im' to I'm every time regardless of placement within a sentence.
However it seems to recognizes IM as being correct since it's a correct usage for instant message.
Maybe they fixed it in the Arrive, I'm on an unlocked 7 Pro.
I'm also using an unlocked 7 pro. It happens to me when I don't put a space after a full-stop.im doesn't work. I'm works hope that helps!
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Does any one know how.
Does any one know how to unlock the arrive yet.
Here's how it works on my Arrive. Mid sentence it'll correct it "im" to "I'm", but once I hit backspace it'll give me a bunch of different options including "IM" once that's done though it assumes you meant "im" and not "I'm".
Hope that helps.
Thanks dude, HTC is now aware of the bug and a fix will be available sometime

My complaint letter to HTC.

This is my e-mail to HTC
English is not my primary language so please bear with me.
Multitasking: The phone can not multitask at all. Games, or apps. ex; I was running Runkeeper auto pause mode enable. Stop during my ride to check phone settings and make some changes. The phone killed my application deleting all my data. unacceptable browser refreshing, stopping music applications, closing games,and the list go on.
Games: It might not be HTC fault but as a customer I have paid for a lot of high end games that I can not play with this phone. I know the phone has the hardware to run the games. HTC need to work closer with the game developers to adapt the game to the phone. Ex, GTA 3 runs but I am having issues to save the game, exit, or pause.
Camera: I should be able to decide the quality of the picture detail even if that means slower shutter speed.
Front Facing Camera low lighting exposure is too low. Next to an iPhone in medium dark light conditions my phone performance is terrible. The iPhone looks great.
HTC Live weather wallpaper makes my phone to randomly reboot.
Picture Contact Resolution from G Plus or Phone is unacceptable.
Browser Links: There are not choices to redirect links to:
YouTube app
Maps app
G+ app
It could be more
WIFi issues already acknowledge by HTC
AT&T Network radio seems to hop between towers higher frequency than normal.
2G, 3g, 4g network toggle. During football games or big events, it is easier to switch between networks to be able to make phone calls or send text messages. I have not doubt 4G battery life on the HTC phone is improved but it is not as great as 3G or 2g networks.
Some memory lagging
SMS notifiaction issues already acknowledge by HTC
Gmail Push not working properly.
Google Voice is not installing correctly.
I know some the issues mentioned here are not under HTC control but as a customer I don't care. I have invested money on buying top end games and it is easier for me to find another phone that it is compatible with those games. I should not be the one hassling with the game developers.
Please take into account that I do not have any obligation to write you any complaints and my return window is in 23 days.
I love the phone design but the more I dig the more I keep falling out of love with the phone.
Could you please offer a clear direction if any software upgrade would be offered to improve your product and when?
Thanks.
I agree with all of the above. I love this phone and I continue to use this phone, but there are definite issues. The multitasking becomes a huge issue when I am using Google Navigator.
Xda forums is not the place to be lodging a complaint to htc. Not only does it take up space and clutter the forum, but there is no guarantee that they will ever read it. Email them directly instead of posting this here.
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Xda forums is not the place to be lodging a complaint to htc. Not only does it take up space and clutter the forum, but there is no guarantee that they will ever read it. Email them directly instead of posting this here.
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lol pretty sure he is just showing the letter that he wrote to them.....
I sent the letter to HTC. The letter is here so others can copy, edit, use the letter as guidance to log the complaint to HTC or AT&T.
I seen someone mentioned the bbb. I think thats a great idea. I think everyone should file a complaint with the bbb for htc and att. ESPECIALLY the locked bootloader. Companies shouldnt be able to say one thing and do the exact opposite. the whole lag/latency issue with a lot of stuff with this phone... I never had that issue with my amaze, and my dx NEVER has to load the home screen and I almost have the memory maxed out.
And I agree with the gaming issue. the hox cant hold a candle to my old g2x game wise even with basic games.
Something tells me htc doesnt give a crap. We all know att sure doesnt.
3/4 of that stuff has nothing to do with HTC...
"I know some the issues mentioned here are not under HTC control but as a customer I don't care."
You know that, but then you say you don't care. So, lets ***** at HTC anyways... great plan... I am sure if you call up Verizon and piss and moan that will help too! I don't support this type of crap, if you are going to contact HTC, do it intelligently, otherwise your email will just be ignored.
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3/4 of that stuff has nothing to do with HTC...
"I know some the issues mentioned here are not under HTC control but as a customer I don't care."
You know that, but then you say you don't care. So, lets ***** at HTC anyways... great plan... I am sure if you call up Verizon and piss and moan that will help too! I don't support this type of crap, if you are going to contact HTC, do it intelligently, otherwise your email will just be ignored.
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I understand what you are saying but this is the reason people move away from Android phones. It is not anymore if it is HTC fault. I paid for a high end phone and I want the phone to behave as a high end phone. HTC should have done a better effort coordinating with game developers before lunching the phone. Most or none of the top end games are working with this phone unless I root or do something to the phone. This is my complaint I wont ***** anymore, I will return the phone when the time comes. I sure would like to keep it.
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I seen someone mentioned the bbb. I think thats a great idea.
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To complain about what? The bootloader which isn't something 95% of people buying the phone would even know or care about? Or that HTC's memory management is too aggressive causing you to have to re-open apps in less than a second rather than have them sitting in memory? From observing the forum the biggest real issue is some radio funkiness which isn't unusual when a phone first launches. The i9100 had three updates in three weeks to address radio issues when it launched.
Companies shouldnt be able to say one thing and do the exact opposite.
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1) Neither HTC or AT&T have officially said they're not unlocking the bootloader. If that actually happens then there's a beef. Anyone not wanting to take a chance should return their phone while under the remorse period and re-buy it once the bootloader's unlocked. And this is on the front page of the HTCdev site with a warning symbol and has been since the program started...
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions. We continue to work with our partners on this, check back often for ongoing updates about unlockable devices.
my old g2x
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Seriously? You think the issues that the One X is experiencing are remotely as severe as what G2X users had to put up with? That phone is the reason I left T-Mobile.
Other than the bootloader which is a philosophical issue, it's way too early to storm the castle with pitchforks and torches over some of the other issues. The phone’s been out two weeks, at least give HTC a chance to push out a couple of updates. They’re not idiots and didn't diabolically plot these issues to make purchasers of their flagship phone’s lives miserable. If you actually take a step back, for a device using a new OS, new overlay, and a new SoC the number of issues are pretty tame.
Coming from a Galaxy S and before that 3 iPhones that died for various reasons within a year of purchase, this phone is near perfect for me (knocking on wood now). I've had one lock-up and one random reboot. Beyond that, battery is fantastic, screen is out of this world and the speed is incredible. It does everything I want and more.
I'm a satisfied customer. Could things improve? Sure they could but I'm comfortable waiting to see what comes next. If nothing else is done with the phone, I'm good.
You have 23 days. Why wait? HTC/ATT aren't going to fix your complaints that fast. Heck nobody fixes things that fast.
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Coming from a Galaxy S and before that 3 iPhones that died for various reasons within a year of purchase, this phone is near perfect for me (knocking on wood now). I've had one lock-up and one random reboot. Beyond that, battery is fantastic, screen is out of this world and the speed is incredible. It does everything I want and more.
I'm a satisfied customer. Could things improve? Sure they could but I'm comfortable waiting to see what comes next. If nothing else is done with the phone, I'm good.
You have 23 days. Why wait? HTC/ATT aren't going to fix your complaints that fast. Heck nobody fixes things that fast.
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Nokia does...
mgfjd said:
I want the phone to behave as a high end phone.
HTC should have done a better effort coordinating with game developers before lunching the phone.
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You need to return that phone and get an iphone ASAP. Seriously, you expect HTC to work with game developers?? You clearly don't understand how Andorid is working right now. 30 different processors, 20 different GPU's, 50 different screen resolutions, 30 different memory systems. 3 or 4 different software versions. No company can work with ALL game developers to make the phone "compatible" with all of them. With all the variables I just mentioned, its simply impossible to catter to all of them. (Easy example, no Tegra 3 because of no LTE, so no Nvidia game zone for ATT H1X).
The phone DOES behave as a high end phone. Your standards are just looking for something different. Go back to the iphone, 1 piece of hardware, 1 software version, 1 screen size, Apple IS able to work closely with game developers to make the iphone "game compatible".
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You need to return that phone and get an iphone ASAP. Seriously, you expect HTC to work with game developers?? You clearly don't understand how Andorid is working right now. 30 different processors, 20 different GPU's, 50 different screen resolutions, 30 different memory systems. 3 or 4 different software versions. No company can work with ALL game developers to make the phone "compatible" with all of them. With all the variables I just mentioned, its simply impossible to catter to all of them. (Easy example, no Tegra 3 because of no LTE, so no Nvidia game zone for ATT H1X).
The phone DOES behave as a high end phone. Your standards are just looking for something different. Go back to the iphone, 1 piece of hardware, 1 software version, 1 screen size, Apple IS able to work closely with game developers to make the iphone "game compatible".
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Who says I own an Iphone?
but it shows HTC needs to work closer with consumers and software developers to create a better experience. It is not about providing great hardware but itself anymore. The phone looks great but I am afraid to loose my bike ride log info again. I cant play any of my games. I have to mess with camera settings to get excellent pictures. It shouldn't be that difficult
mgfjd said:
This is my e-mail to HTC
English is not my primary language so please bear with me.
Multitasking: The phone can not multitask at all. Games, or apps. ex; I was running Runkeeper auto pause mode enable. Stop during my ride to check phone settings and make some changes. The phone killed my application deleting all my data. unacceptable browser refreshing, stopping music applications, closing games,and the list go on.
Games: It might not be HTC fault but as a customer I have paid for a lot of high end games that I can not play with this phone. I know the phone has the hardware to run the games. you need to work closer with the game developers to adapt the game to the phone. Ex, GTA 3 runs but I am having issues to save the game, exit, or pause.
Camera: I should be able to decide the quality of the picture detail even if that means slower shutter speed.
Front Facing Camera low lighting exposure is too low. Next to an iPhone in medium dark light conditions my phone performance is terrible. The iPhone looks great.
HTC Live weather wallpaper makes my phone to randomly reboot.
Picture Contact Resolution from G Plus or Phone is unacceptable.
Browser Links: There are not choices to redirect links to:
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WIFi issues already acknowledge by HTC
AT&T Network radio seems to hop between towers higher frequency than normal.
2G, 3g, 4g network toggle. During football games or big events, it is easier to switch between networks to be able to make phone calls or send text messages. I have not doubt 4G battery life on the HTC phone is improved but it is not as great as 3G or 2g networks.
Some memory lagging
SMS notifiaction issues already acknowledge by HTC
Gmail Push not working properly.
Google Voice is not installing correctly.
I know some the issues mentioned here are not under HTC control but as a customer I don't care. I have invested money on buying top end games and it is easier for me to find another phone that it is compatible with those games. I should not be the one hassling with the game developers.
Please take into account that I do not have any obligation to write you any complaints and my return window is in 23 days.
I love the phone design but the more I dig the more I keep falling out of love with the phone.
Could you please offer a clear direction if any software upgrade would be offered to improve your product and when?
Thanks.
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Thanks for showing your letter. I often visit these forums before ordering a particular phone. I like to read about the good and bad experiences. Most often users are too excited when they get their new phones or too embarassed to admit they made a mistake to make a post.
My advice is to try the phone. My girlfriend came from using an iphone and she is loving the phone. Of course, She didn't know anything better. Other iphone former users friends are loving the phone too. I think CM9 set a bad precedent in my taste (spoiled)
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Nice letter. I agree completely. The multi tasking on this phone is terrible
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Thanks for sending the letter. I too have sent letters about wifi, gmail push, and multitasking.
Flame me if you will, but if wifi and gmail push aren't fixed (officially -- leaks do not cut it) within the next 2 weeks, I will have to return this, despite the fact that I absolutely love the hardware.
mgfjd said:
Who says I own an Iphone?
but it shows HTC needs to work closer with consumers and software developers to create a better experience. It is not about providing great hardware but itself anymore. The phone looks great but I am afraid to loose my bike ride log info again. I cant play any of my games. I have to mess with camera settings to get excellent pictures. It shouldn't be that difficult
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If you don't own an iPhone, it's time to get one.
This phone has blown me away, completely. The only real issue is the memory management performed by the OS.
Most of these issues you've mentioned are software issues. Hopefully, HTC will push enough updates quickly to fix all of them. However, the devs on XDA Developers are crafty sons of *****es and will make great ROMs for us to flash once we crack the phone open.
Again, if you are expecting a "perfect" experience, move to the iPhone. The iPhone has many limitations to provide its end-users with a "perfect" experience.
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chrikenn said:
Thanks for sending the letter. I too have sent letters about wifi, gmail push, and multitasking.
Flame me if you will, but if wifi and gmail push aren't fixed (officially -- leaks do not cut it) within the next 2 weeks, I will have to return this, despite the fact that I absolutely love the hardware.
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I've never had a problem with Wifi or Gmail push.
maybe wrote again in chinese....and send to them.
designgears said:
3/4 of that stuff has nothing to do with HTC...
"I know some the issues mentioned here are not under HTC control but as a customer I don't care."
You know that, but then you say you don't care. So, lets ***** at HTC anyways... great plan... I am sure if you call up Verizon and piss and moan that will help too! I don't support this type of crap, if you are going to contact HTC, do it intelligently, otherwise your email will just be ignored.
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That's a bit harsh.
If you flip the One X over and look at the back there are the letters "HTC" prominently displayed. It's their phone, it's their choice to work with AT&T and compromise on things with AT&T. HTC deserves all the blame in the world.

Does anyone else notice not getting MMS from iPhone users?

Just noticed this on my N5, someone with an iPhone sent me a pic via text and I get a "Unable to show image." with an X where the pic would be. Someone with a Blackberry and other Android phones can text me no issues.
My wife has an S4 and she also has this problem, texts from iPhone users don't come through.
We are on an AT&T plan with no contract, just switched from Sprint and we never noticed this issue on Sprint. (of course they had other issues)
Any idea on what this could be if it is only isolated to me? If it is a larger issue is there a resolution?
Thanks
Raistlin1 said:
Just noticed this on my N5, someone with an iPhone sent me a pic via text and I get a "Unable to show image." with an X where the pic would be. Someone with a Blackberry and other Android phones can text me no issues.
My wife has an S4 and she also has this problem, texts from iPhone users don't come through.
We are on an AT&T plan with no contract, just switched from Sprint and we never noticed this issue on Sprint. (of course they had other issues)
Any idea on what this could be if it is only isolated to me? If it is a larger issue is there a resolution?
Thanks
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Sounds like a stupid question, but what iPhone is it not sending it from ?
I red a recent article where Apple has admitted that it is an issue from their server end and they are trying to work on it. I think the issue is with people registering their SIM on imessage then using that SIM number on an android device. It's suppose to be feature for imessage to be able to send text back and forth on iPhone for free.
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I am in a group mms with:
2 x Iphone 5s
1 x Iphone 5
2 x Iphone 4s
1 x Iphone 4
1 x S4
and my nexus.
I generally won't get a response from one of the 4s even though she resonds, but my fiance's 4s works.
Don't know what's up with that.
bushako said:
I red a recent article where Apple has admitted that it is an issue from their server end and they are trying to work on it. I think the issue is with people registering their SIM on imessage then using that SIM number on an android device. It's suppose to be feature for imessage to be able to send text back and forth on iPhone for free.
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My issue is an iPhone user sending me or my wife an MMS message on our Android phones and us not getting the picture. Now if those iPhone users previously had Android phones or something else I have no idea.
But I have also read about what you posted, but not sure that relates to my issue.
dia_naji said:
Sounds like a stupid question, but what iPhone is it not sending it from ?
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I don't know what iPhone version the people are using, my friend had a 5 or 5s I think.
YES, yes I have!
It's kind of.. comforting to know that I'm not the only one.
It's insanely frustrating, though, that I can get MMS just fine from Android, and really, most of the time from iPhones.. but the ones that I know I am missing, all of them were from iPhones. Group messages, picture messages, it's a crapshoot as to whether or not they work, but my mom is the most frustrated with it that I am not receiving her messages in our family group messages. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one, and that my carrier isn't the issue. Is there an article about Apple admitting the faults?
One more thing - I've never had an iPhone, never had my number registered with iMessage.
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YES, yes I have!
It's kind of.. comforting to know that I'm not the only one.
It's insanely frustrating, though, that I can get MMS just fine from Android, and really, most of the time from iPhones.. but the ones that I know I am missing, all of them were from iPhones. Group messages, picture messages, it's a crapshoot as to whether or not they work, but my mom is the most frustrated with it that I am not receiving her messages in our family group messages. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one, and that my carrier isn't the issue. Is there an article about Apple admitting the faults?
One more thing - I've never had an iPhone, never had my number registered with iMessage.
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It seems that for some time now (years?) if there was ever a problem with mms it was with an iPhone. My sisters 5s works, but a 4 or 4s I don't always get their mms. I don't even worry about it any more. I just always figured it was some conspiracy perpetuated by the black turtle neck wearing nazi to screw with android when he was around! :laugh:
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It seems that for some time now (years?) if there was ever a problem with mms it was with an iPhone. My sisters 5s works, but a 4 or 4s I don't always get their mms. I don't even worry about it any more. I just always figured it was some conspiracy perpetuated by the black turtle neck wearing nazi to screw with android when he was around! :laugh:
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Was able to test this out last night. Out with a friend, he had his iPhone out and I asked him to send me a pic message. Nothing came through (full bars LTE). Had him send me a text message, came right through.
I've definitely been experiencing this intermittently for a few weeks now - I feel like I've also had an issue in general getting MMS bc my gf sends me stuff and i get it like half the time.
Or i get the message and it says unable to download, and never downloads
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Was able to test this out last night. Out with a friend, he had his iPhone out and I asked him to send me a pic message. Nothing came through (full bars LTE). Had him send me a text message, came right through.
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I really started to notice this a couple years ago or so. I bought my One X the week they came out and maybe a month or two later I got tired of not getting mms messages thinking it was my phone that was the problem. Called AT&T, they escalated it up to a couple different techs, phone calls back and forth, got an engineer involved. Checked that the data was set up right, that the sim was provisioned right, they sent messages to my phone, blah, blah, blah! Long story short, I came to the conclusion that failing to receive mms only happened when sent by an iPhone. And I've only ever received failed mms from the iPhone 4 and 4s, I don't remember any failed mms from the 5s (whatever the newest one is) or from other android devices. The funny thing is iPhone users ALWAYS receive mine. I don't know what's going on but I've seen it for some time now and on every device I've owned. Personally... I think it's an iOS and/or iMessage problem.
This is an Apple issue. They know of it but once they have their money they don't care, ESP with iPhone to android issues as they think the world should be apple
From the wonders of mobile telephony.
howard bamber said:
This is an Apple issue. They know of it but once they have their money they don't care, ESP with iPhone to android issues as they think the world should be apple
From the wonders of mobile telephony.
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Any explanation on why it's just starting to happen? I never remember having this issue before.
Is it an iOS 7+ issue?
I have the same issue with receiving MMS messages from iPhone users. A family member was trying to send me an image of their new car and I kept thinking T-Mobile was having issues. Hopefully Apple pushes a fix soon.
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I really started to notice this a couple years ago or so. I bought my One X the week they came out and maybe a month or two later I got tired of not getting mms messages thinking it was my phone that was the problem. Called AT&T, they escalated it up to a couple different techs, phone calls back and forth, got an engineer involved. Checked that the data was set up right, that the sim was provisioned right, they sent messages to my phone, blah, blah, blah! Long story short, I came to the conclusion that failing to receive mms only happened when sent by an iPhone. And I've only ever received failed mms from the iPhone 4 and 4s, I don't remember any failed mms from the 5s (whatever the newest one is) or from other android devices. The funny thing is iPhone users ALWAYS receive mine. I don't know what's going on but I've seen it for some time now and on every device I've owned. Personally... I think it's an iOS and/or iMessage problem.
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So.. I may have figured it out.
I removed my cell phone number from my iTunes account information.
Still testing my theory, but.. I had sent the suggested text message to Apple for posterity, the one that is supposed to remove you from the iMessage database. I have never once used iMessage, but I figured better safe than sorry. While the message back confirmed my removal, I still had the issues, so I kept hunting. I came across an article (I've read through so many that they are all running together at this point, honestly) where someone mentioned iTunes, so I went in to my iTunes settings and removed my cell phone number from my iTunes account, replacing it with my MagicJack landline. I then texted the Apple number again for more posterity. Curious and excited, I asked a friend to attempt to send a picture message. Sure enough... IT. CAME. THROUGH!
I asked a few more iPhone friends to chip in, and everything seems to be more or less ducky right now. Group texts seem to come in again. Still testing, but it looks like a good start. If you have an iTunes account, I would highly recommend going in and removing any trace of your cell phone number from anything Apple, because it appears that something buggy with their databasing might cause your number to get into the iMessage catch-all. I'll keep you guys posted!
ALSO, a friend pointed out that the newest version of iTunes can receive iMessages because they want it to be cross-platform?? Who here uses iTunes and has the issue? That might be the ticket there..
Some timeline that I can come up with:
- I have never had an iPhone with active service.
- I HAVE, however, had an iPhone used only as a wifi device, but since that was an original iPhone, it never even got up to the firmware update that included iMessage, so.. not sure how relevant that even is.
- I have not purchased any music on iTunes in quite a long while, probably a year or so. Haven't updated my information, either.
- I did just reformat my computer and reinstall the newest version of iTunes, which I guess was around a month ago, which was probably about the time I started having issues (correlation doesn't imply causation, I know).
TL;DR: Try removing your cell phone number entirely from your computer's iTunes account, it might work!
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TXRaunchy said:
I generally won't get a response from one of the 4s even though she resonds, but my fiance's 4s works.
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Raistlin1 said:
My issue is an iPhone user sending me or my wife an MMS message on our Android phones and us not getting the picture.
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I've definitely been experiencing this intermittently for a few weeks now
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I'd be interested for you to guys to check out my post above and see if it applies. I feel like I might be on the path to figuring out what's causing all of this..
I think that is entirely wishful thinking on your part! If it works great but I'm extremely skeptical. I have never purchased or owned an Apple product and I have never used iTunes. Before the One X I had the HTC Aria and before that I had a Samsung Jack windows mobile device and before that numerous Nokia's. I personally know people that use an iPhone 4 or 4s and I expect that their mms will occasionally fail, not always but often enough to be annoying. I don't even say anything to them anymore. It's definitely not as bad now as it was before the 5 and 5s came out. A lot of the iSheep have the 5s now and I don't have a problem receiving mms from that phone, yet! Like I said before "I just always figured it was some conspiracy perpetuated by the black turtle-neck wearing nazi to screw with android when he was around!"
I have received MMS ok from iOS users but group messaging sucks ass, I could never send a group message without it sending individually to each person in the chat. I think apple just doesn't like android
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Perhaps this article could shed some light on this issue
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/22/tech/mobile/aple-imessage-problems-fix/
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bushako said:
Perhaps this article could shed some light on this issue
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/22/tech/mobile/aple-imessage-problems-fix/
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That acknowledges the issue of someone having an iPhone and switching to a different OS and having issues, but what about those of us who never had an iPhone?
Okay could you try and sign out of iMessage from the iPhone and then try sending the MMS?
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