I have some mkv files on my desktop of the kids blu rays, but I'm looking for something to put it onto the tablet for a plane ride we have to take without having to lug the portable dvd player around. I was thinking about putting some of the files onto my old 7" SGT for my daughter and wondered what might be a decent way to do so. I read about handbrake a little, but wasn't successful in the past when I was trying it out (decryption problems). That was a while back, but wondered if anyone is using anything more current that might help me out.
In addition... is MKV workable on the tf700? It's going to gobble up a ton of SD space but might be fun...
first, try this:
drag the videos to your device, and then download DicePlayer or MX Player (diceplayer if my fav when it comes to mkv). Try playing the videos with either app.
if you experience issues, you can convert using handbrake (i havent used this app in a while), or you can go with DVDCatalayst, my preferred method. It has tons of preset for all devices and is easy to use. I convert 4gb blu ray movies all the time. Shrinks them down to about 1 to 2gb, depending on which preset you use. You have the option to go smaller or bigger.
Another good player is BSPlayer (incase you want to try). Like timrock says, most files play just fine. I'm also using Wondershare player to play DVD's (like VIDEO_TS files), but Dice/BS can both play vob files too.
Are you ripping out to VIDEO_TS folders or can you make a single MKV file to make it easier to transport? I only used MKV's for blu rays but I assume it would compact the DVD's down a little from their full size a little?
I just put a 20gb bluray rip on my 64gb microsd, movie plays great with bsplayer. Keep in mind only h.264 videos will work. Blurays with vc1 video will fail.
One of the main advantages of a droid tablet is you don't have to convert the vast majority of titles out there. I spent so much time ripping stuff to my ipods and psp before. With tegra 3 and mxplayer, I can play basically everything.
Personally, when I have MKVs, I use XMedia Recode to recode them to MP4 -- it lets me copy the video without re-encoding, which takes only about 5 minutes to re-encode a 2 hr 1080p video. I do this for both my phone, tablet, and PS3 media server.
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Personally, when I have MKVs, I use XMedia Recode to recode them to MP4 -- it lets me copy the video without re-encoding, which takes only about 5 minutes to re-encode a 2 hr 1080p video. I do this for both my phone, tablet, and PS3 media server.
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This method will not work with mkvs that come from vc1 based blurays. Mp4 can't contain vc1 video and so far nothing can play vc1 on infinity with HW accel.
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Personally, when I have MKVs, I use XMedia Recode to recode them to MP4 -- it lets me copy the video without re-encoding, which takes only about 5 minutes to re-encode a 2 hr 1080p video. I do this for both my phone, tablet, and PS3 media server.
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I must be doing something wrong - it takes at least a 1/2 hour to recode a mkv rip of a full length movie.
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Personally, when I have MKVs, I use XMedia Recode to recode them to MP4 -- it lets me copy the video without re-encoding, which takes only about 5 minutes to re-encode a 2 hr 1080p video. I do this for both my phone, tablet, and PS3 media server.
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You sure it's actually re-encoding it and not just transcoding it? E.g. is the size about the same as before?
MKV and MP4 are just container formats, you're just wrapping the actual video and audio streams into different container formats, really. Transcoding is pretty much just copying the streams which is fast (usually limited by disk speed), while re-encoding is a heavy CPU/GPU task. Even with Quick Sync it'd take quite a bit longer for a 90+ min movie.
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You sure it's actually re-encoding it and not just transcoding it? E.g. is the size about the same as before?
MKV and MP4 are just container formats, you're just wrapping the actual video and audio streams into different container formats, really. Transcoding is pretty much just copying the streams which is fast (usually limited by disk speed), while re-encoding is a heavy CPU/GPU task. Even with Quick Sync it'd take quite a bit longer for a 90+ min movie.
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Correct all that tool is doing is repackaging the video and probably transcoding the audio into stereo, into MP4. If you use BS player there is no real reason to do this.
Fifth Element mkv is 27gb so I have to transcode it... guess I am doing it right after all...
Cinco5 said:
Personally, when I have MKVs, I use XMedia Recode to recode them to MP4 -- it lets me copy the video without re-encoding, which takes only about 5 minutes to re-encode a 2 hr 1080p video. I do this for both my phone, tablet, and PS3 media server.
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I tried this method and was pretty smooth, but I find the brightness of the converted movie 'hunts' up and down a bit during playback. Not quite sure how the various options work, but is there something to check?
Handbrake Preset for the TF700
I have been doing this with Handbrake for a while now - But not for the Infinity! I want to take advantage of this new fangled Full HD Screen.
QUESTION:
Does anyone have a 1080p Preset that they have created and verified as working for the Infinity? I did a few google searches but they either use a different piece of SW or are focused on 720P!
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I have been doing this with Handbrake for a while now - But not for the Infinity! I want to take advantage of this new fangled Full HD Screen.
QUESTION:
Does anyone have a 1080p Preset that they have created and verified as working for the Infinity? I did a few google searches but they either use a different piece of SW or are focused on 720P!
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i downloaded a 1080p copy of Hunger Games, i think it was about 12gbs. It played fine with BS Player. No conversion required.
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i downloaded a 1080p copy of Hunger Games, i think it was about 12gbs. It played fine with BS Player. No conversion required.
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Just FYI, torrenting movies is illegal, _even if you own the movie_. Why? B/c you are still giving away the movie to others (peers) while you are downloading it. Just sayin'
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Just FYI, torrenting movies is illegal, _even if you own the movie_. Why? B/c you are still giving away the movie to others (peers) while you are downloading it. Just sayin'
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I think that everyone who downloads torrents, knows this already.
FYI, i never said i downloaded the movie via torrent.
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Just FYI, torrenting movies is illegal, _even if you own the movie_. Why? B/c you are still giving away the movie to others (peers) while you are downloading it. Just sayin'
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Limit upload speed to 0 KB/s.
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chris198810 said:
I tried put some .mkv files to TF700, but the device rejected the files. I tried the MX player I installed, the playback in loggy. To get a smooth playback on TF700, I have to googled some other methods. And finally I made up my mind to re-encode the .mkvs.
I found the useful guide Play MKV files on Transformer Pad Infinity TF700 flawlessly from tablet-video-tips.com
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and this is why i say this topic should be a sticky, specifcally for this.
BS Player will play your MKV movies without you having to re-encode them.
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hey guys
tell me which is the best software for X10i full screen video convertor..
i want software which convert video to full screen ...for my x10i
thank you
i use this
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i use this
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Is that converter fast? Cause all of the video converters seem to take very long.. How long on avg will it take to convert 1hr of video?
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i use this
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thanks
i will try it
Imtoo HD is best for me, can setup 854x480 full screen.
Sed from my X10i @BKK
With Rockplayer from the Android Market you woun't ever have to convert a video again. It plays all formats including mkv out of the box!
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I use SUPER ©
Yes use Rockplayer
After second "Rockplayer" - it really does away with having to spend hours converting "most" movies
somebody really still converting?
Yes, I still do it, because movies take less space on my SD card once they are in MP4 (with the right format) instead of original format.
I cannot change movies every nigth, I have to store 6 or 7 for the week... (and music, and pictures, and...)
thank you
thank you guys
i will try it all..
and yaa instead of direct copy i prefer to convert it becoz it take less memory on my SD card thats why
but you can save much time with bigger sd-card an the rockplayer...
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I use SUPER ©
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+1 for super and it rocks...
So which media player is good to play HD video in MP4 format? Rockplayer or Super?
Guys,
I have tried handbrake to encode and Rockplayer, realplayer beta to playback the below video clip :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJPbozRomX4
With no success and the video become stuck when it reached : 2:44
Let me know if anyone can overcome this problem, thanks.
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So which media player is good to play HD video in MP4 format? Rockplayer or Super?
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SUPER is NOT a media player, its a video converter to use in your PC.
on my X10i (unbranded) the SE Mediascape video player plays better than Rock player, the sound is in sync more than Rock player for example.
I have also used "IM TOO" but found it very slow. (1.5 hours to encode a 30 minute episode of Alan Partridge.
I now use WinX DVD Ripper winxdvd d0t c0m (no I dont work for them).
If this is spyware or whatever please let me know, but in encodes a DVD film in 45 mins (even a Disney one with all that special encoding)
My question is....
"what is the ultimate setting for encoding a DVD to MP4 for the X10i?
Please do not reply if you are just guessing, the X10i does not like frame rate 30 for example..
thanks
x2 on using Super as the video convertor. It's free and it offers more features than most other video convertors.
but with RockPlayer (and yxplayer for some files) I no longer need to convert. my 16gb only stores documents, some pictures, and videos but no mp3 since i'd rather listen to streaming internet radio than download mp3s.
the "best" video setting will depend on how you rate video quality. imo, for smoothness and when you are watching movies, i'd go with 23 fps or less, and have high bitrate but reduced resolution (above half the resolution of the lcd display).
video conversion speeds depends mainly on your video converting settings (format, bitrate, resolution, etc.) and your CPU power, not the software.. just fyi.
I am currently using xmedia recode.
I use the settings for the Motorola Milestone when converting, as for some reason the X10 settings mess the audio up.
Pretty quick, and audio/visual sync is spot on
It doesn't matter what to use.
for example, I convert films from my 720p/1080p hd collection, using parameters, such as 854x480 resolution, 160 kbit audio bitrate and 1000-1200 kbit video bitrate.
And it looks like I watch a real hd video! The picture is perfect! Enjoy
Oh, and I noticed, that it's better to use h264 codecs with *.mkv container than mpeg4 with .mp4 and .avi
RockPlayer is the best for my monster-like videos Avatar with 1200 video bitrate and near 2gb file size works without any lags. This is the power of nice program code (thx for RockPlayer devs) with the connection of Snapdragon processor
I have downloaded a few apps trying to convert a ripped DVD (the latest Star Trek flick) to MP4 format. I am looking for something that is freeware. Does anyone have a recommendation?
I tried "Any Video Converter" that I downloaded from CNet, but the formats available don't seem to cover the G-tab. I converted Star Trek using 720x580, but it's too small on the screen. The video plays nice and smooth, though.
The other thing I would "like to have" is a converter that converts all the .VOB files into a single .mp4. Right now I have about 15 .VOB files in a directory. Watching 15 minutes of a movie then having to double-click the next .mp4 isn't ideal. And yes, I tried selecting all of them and executing, but it only plays the first video selected.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I use DVD Catalyst, and have through many different devices now. It can convert to pretty much any popular format, and it has device profiles, many already preset. If it doesn't have a device preset for your device, you can easily create one. It is payware, but it is not expensive, and have have been very ahppy with its results.
I use Handbrake. It is free, and you can use presets, or can pick your own.
Handbrake works really well and it's default preset seems to be working fine for the tablet (only tried one video so far).
--Bill
Thanks, fellas! Handbrake works great! Exactly what I was looking for.
What settings did you use in Handbrake? I can't seem to get anything to play on this thing.
thanks
I just made sure that I was converting to MP4 format. I think it's the H.264 format.
handbrake
i used these settings..
http://www.funtechtalk.com/motorola...mat-conversion-settings-using-free-handbrake/
however i upped the res, my handbrake topped out at 720 though.. read the whole thing including the comments, something about handbrake and custom cropping, halfway down i think..
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I noticed some of the movies I ripped came out with an m4a extension which I couldn't get recognized. Renaming to mp4 had both Rockplayer and the native player play them with no issues. Both DVD rips at default resolution as well as a 720p MKV transcoded with Handbrake at whatever the default setting chose.
--Bill
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I use handbrake as well.
Is there a player with subtitle support?
i have some videos that are in the mkv format. i tried using rock player, but the video looks laggy and there's a discrepancy between the video and audio. it seems that the audio is ahead of the video. or is there a way to increase the frame rate for this format. i've tried almost every player in the market that came up under mkv and nothing that works right. my avi files work great though
I've tried all different players that play mkv and they are all laggy and the video is pixulated. I think the gtab is just not capable of playing them. But don't be sad the glorious opacity wont play them either results are the same.
Matt
i've been using rebox.NET found here http://www.videohelp.com/tools/rebox.NET, it basically re-muxes and converts audio to mp4 format from mkv, i've only tried 720p video so far, plays fine in rock player
I was reading the other day that an andriod version of VLC is being worked on. Hopefully that will do us right.
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i've been using rebox.NET found here http://www.videohelp.com/tools/rebox.NET, it basically re-muxes and converts audio to mp4 format from mkv, i've only tried 720p video so far, plays fine in rock player
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is this something you do on the tablet or you need to do it on a comp first?
why can't someone take the video player that comes with the archos101 and port into the gtablet? archos101 plays .mkv and just about everything else and I think the .apk is easily obtainable through archos101. I am not sure if the video player is what makes .mkv's work or if there is some system codecs involved. I used to have the archos101 and it did play .mkv's nicely.
yo do the conversion on the pc first, doesn't take but a couple minutes
The Archos player is probably optimized to the hardware inside the Archos which is different from ours.
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why can't someone take the video player that comes with the archos101 and port into the gtablet? archos101 plays .mkv and just about everything else and I think the .apk is easily obtainable through archos101. I am not sure if the video player is what makes .mkv's work or if there is some system codecs involved. I used to have the archos101 and it did play .mkv's nicely.
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I think a couple people have looked at doing that without success. I know I love the player on my little Archos5. It plays very nice, and also has the built-in upnp capability.
MKV (Matroska) support is compiled into stagefright/opencore on the devices that support it (Along with AC3, DTS, etc). It isn't just build into the player app.
Remember that matroska is just a container. being able to parse video streams out of an MKV won't magically give the Tegra2 enough beef to render 5.1aac+h.264 High-profile 1080p, in fact with the Tegra2 userspace libs in their current state you'll be lucky to get 1080p Main profile and only sure of playing Baseline profile.
Look at the video you want to play if its already High profile 1080p it will _never_ play on a Tegra2 device.
Remux (not re-encode) the MKV into an MP4 container, it it still doesn't play nothing short of updates from nvidia will change that.
ArcMedia
I've been using arcMedia and it runs flawlessly. Here's the apk. runs directly from Astro file manager. Long press on the video file, open file using archmedia. check the default box and every video file opened by arcMedia directly.
I have been using an older version of DVDFab v8.0.7.3 to convert dvd's to m4v files to watch on my phones. All of my older movies play fine. Anything I convert now with this newer version will not play. They will play fine on my computer but not my TBolt. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Anyone familiar with DVDFab v8.0.8.5 feel like giving me a little heads up?
Try avi format.
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I'll try that but why would all my other videos that are m4v work and just not the new ones?
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I'll try that but why would all my other videos that are m4v work and just not the new ones?
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What are you using to play the video. Try a different player.
I have the stock video player and the 3d gallery one. But that still doesn't explain why my older videos work and the newer one don't unless there is a problem with the new program I'm ripping from vs the older version.
I've used Badaboom, Xilisoft Video and AVS to convert videos. If you're really nuts like me, first you use SlySoft to remove the DRM from the DVD in your computer's optical drive. Then I use 1ClickDVDCopyPro to rip the DVD into a folder on my hard drive.
From that hard drive folder I use AVS Video Converter (v7) to create a video from the profile for Android devices with some slight modifications. I change the frame size to 800x480 or 720x480. I also change the audio down to 128kbps (just to save space). The bitrate for the video I go between 800 and 1500, depending. For documentaries and dramas, 800 to save space and 1500 for action movies to give a cleaner video playback.
Then use RockPlayer (download the ARM v7 - don't use the universal player) to playback the MP4 video. That's the best success I've had with converting my own video.
Usually anything that I download from the Internet, I use the Xilisoft Video Converter (v6.5.3) to create pretty much the same thing as the DVD rips. The reason I don't use Xilisoft for DVD rips is the way it reads the IFO files from DVD's. The AVS software is pretty intuitive for the files based on the IFO. I also try to download the highest quality I can find so I don't lose much in re-encoding the video to a lower bitrate.
Good luck. Hope that rambling above helps.
Oh yeah. Forgot to mention. I've used Badaboom, but found it slow and didn't seem to make my video conversions better or equal to the AVS or Xilisoft converters. Hard to tell on the TB because of the small screen, but when viewed on the computer it looks worse by comparison.
Plus, the Xilisoft CUDA seems to work faster (I have a new Intel Sandy Bridge with a GTX 460 for processing) than the Badaboom. Xilisoft converts 4 videos at a time on my computer, each hour long video taking about 15-20 minutes to complete (simultaneously). Very nice.
Well... I tried that Rock Player and it works okay. I still can't figure out for the life of me why my other videos play when they were created the same way as the newer ones. Rock player seems to play them fine and the stock player plays the avi files I created I just don't think they look as good as the m4v ones I made previously. I guess I'm just going to have to fool around with it alot more to get things figured out.
For newer movies, DVDFAB to remove the protection then Handbrake to convert. DVDFAB is free for just ripping DVDs but they don't make that really known on their website. This is possibly the most fool-proof way to do it but it also gives you plenty of options if you're into that.
In particular MKV files.
I have noted that if I playback an 720p MKV with AC3/DTS sound the video plays perfectly fluid. No microjudder or frame drops AFAIK. But there is no sound of course because the inbuilt player does not support AC3/DTS natively.
However add AAC 2.0 audio into the file (MKV or MP4 container it matters not) I see judder. Kinda like when you have 23.976FPS playing on a 50Hz PAL CRT.
I have tried muxing at various framerates and interestingly the judder gets faster the higher the FPS. Very odd.
I'm used to dealing with AV stuff as I use MPC-HC/ReClock/MadVR etc to my HDTV over HDMI (BTW my Panasonic G20 Plasma does not recognise the TF HDMI output. My PC monittor does however so the TF is outputting in an unsupported res/Hz for my HDTV obviously).
It's puzzling me how when the TF does not have to playback audio the video is perfect but as soon as it has to decode audio it throws a wobbly.
The other interesting thing of note is that Youtube vids at 720p and even 1080p (Big Buck Bunny for instance) play just fine. Methinks that Flash is optimized to the Tegra 2 chip whilst the inbuilt TF player (and all the other players) are not. Moboplayer, Vplayer etc are all a bit crap at it. There is one player called LittlePlayer which gives the option of hardware playback but it is no better than the inbuilt player as it does not decode AC3/DTS and it too judders when AAC audio is played.
Anyone got a clue why this is the case? I was wondering if it was a UK specific issue (would not put it past Asus to make it PAL centric) but then why would it play a 23.976FPS 720p x264 in MKV perfectly (sans audio obviously)?
Yeah I have a 720p mkv and it plays a little off with the sound but I play a higher quality move still at 720p and the sound is like a second off. And the 1080p vids I have don't play at all. What app do you use to play your videos?
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you must be doing something wrong with the muxing or the avc stream you ended up with is not extracted properly.
I encode movies with x264 (commandline), encode the audio with neroaacen(lc, cbr, 128kbit) and mux them with mp4box. The file plays perfectly with the built-in player, meridian or rockplayer in hardware decoding mode.
Most mkv TV series I can extract th evideo stream from and use it, but not all. Some use too many reference frames while encoding and the TF can't handle it.
X264 profile high, level 4.1, preset veryfast or medium. No other options except quality level ((crf 20 or 21 I use mostly).
I've tried MKVToolnix for straight muxing. A simple MKV to MP4 prog without reencoding called mkvavi2mp4. Handbrake (Used settings suggested on this forum). I've also tried some test clips from various sites. All of them judder when audio is being decoded. I am not talking about HUGE judder. I am talking about very small judder. The video is not 100% fluid. Some may not even notice it. I do because I am always messing with progs like ReClock and MadVR in order to get perfect 24p playback to an HDTV. I am also susceptible to phosphor lag, any audio sync issues and other annoyances. I am Mr Super Anal when it comes to perfect playback and have color calibrated all my displays with a colorimeter
But I digress.
If I play Big Buck Bunny 1080p in Youtube or in the default browser it plays fluid (well enough not to be annoying). Now if I rip that same Youtube clip down to my hard disk. Copy it to the TF and play it in ANY player (Moboplayer - with or without codecs packs, Rockplayer, Vplayer, Littleplayer or the inbuilt player) it will not play it without stuttering. What the hell is that all about? Flash player is better at video playback on the TF than Honeycombs implementation? Quite.
I wish I could figure out a way to load the MP4 files in Flash through the browser. I tried file://path to MP4 and it did not work.
If anyone knows a way to do that I would be interested. Maybe I should setup a web server on my PC and stream everything in Flash
P.S. If you wish I can provide you with two sample MKV's. One with audio the other without and you can directly compare the two and post your results. I see small juddering on the clip with audio muxed in every time.
The Youtube app is not using Flash. If it was, Youtube wouldn't play on the iPhone or iPad, and it most certainly wouldn't have played on Android devices before Android 2.2. If you want to see true Flash performance so far, load up Hulu and see if you can get a 480p stream to play acceptably. Edit: Since you mention the UK though, I probably shouldn't assume you're in the US. If that's the case, just load up any Flash-based video player besides Youtube. Sometimes it helps to set your user agent to Desktop, too.
The Youtube app is actually using HTML5, with videos encoded in H.264/MPEG-4 AVC and stereo AAC. The maximum bitrates supported are 5 Mbit/s and 152 kbps, respectively. You need to bear in mind too that by playing videos through the browser, the servers will recognize the device you're playing from and compress and optimize the stream accordingly. A full 1080p video at 5 Mbit/s would take forever to buffer on a tablet, so it's highly unlikely that you're getting the full quality over the network stream. Locally-stored videos, however, are free to be downloaded and played in their maximum quality, so it's understandable that you may see some stutter on large files.
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I've tried MKVToolnix for straight muxing. A simple MKV to MP4 prog without reencoding called mkvavi2mp4. Handbrake (Used settings suggested on this forum). I've also tried some test clips from various sites. All of them judder when audio is being decoded. I am not talking about HUGE judder. I am talking about very small judder. The video is not 100% fluid. Some may not even notice it. I do because I am always messing with progs like ReClock and MadVR in order to get perfect 24p playback to an HDTV. I am also susceptible to phosphor lag, any audio sync issues and other annoyances. I am Mr Super Anal when it comes to perfect playback and have color calibrated all my displays with a colorimeter
But I digress.
If I play Big Buck Bunny 1080p in Youtube or in the default browser it plays fluid (well enough not to be annoying). Now if I rip that same Youtube clip down to my hard disk. Copy it to the TF and play it in ANY player (Moboplayer - with or without codecs packs, Rockplayer, Vplayer, Littleplayer or the inbuilt player) it will not play it without stuttering. What the hell is that all about? Flash player is better at video playback on the TF than Honeycombs implementation? Quite.
I wish I could figure out a way to load the MP4 files in Flash through the browser. I tried file://path to MP4 and it did not work.
If anyone knows a way to do that I would be interested. Maybe I should setup a web server on my PC and stream everything in Flash
P.S. If you wish I can provide you with two sample MKV's. One with audio the other without and you can directly compare the two and post your results. I see small juddering on the clip with audio muxed in every time.
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Shoot them over
http://www.mediafire.com/?gp3bumw7qy9mppm
Check the panning of each. One has AAC audio the other not. Use the default inbuilt video player of the TF (Should offer if you click on the files if you have other players installed). The one without audio plays perfectly smooth on my TF. The one with audio has slight juddering.
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If I play Big Buck Bunny 1080p in Youtube or in the default browser it plays fluid (well enough not to be annoying).
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Just to clarify: You are talking about viewing youtube via the default _web_ browser, setting your user agent such that you get the desktop site and using the flash plugin to play the video? Rather then using the mobile youtube web site or using the built in youtube app?
FYI of your two clips the one without audio plays smoothly in the _default_ player and the one with audio chokes with "This video cannot be played" (This is assuming you tack ".mp4" onto the file names to fool the default media player into trying to play it)
Interesting... I just re-encoded the audio _only_ ("-vcodec copy -acodec libmp3lame" in ffmpeg) and that plays smoothly.
Now mp3 audio isn't part of the mp4 container spec so you'll only get away with it in an mkv container (its flexibility is one of the things that makes matroska difficult to parse)
Ah... the video is High profile at 3.8Mbps that pretty much on the limit of what the tegra2 can do at the moment (I'd say it over it actually) so I'd say that the addition of a complex (relative to mp3) audio track is just too much.
I bet if you re-encoded that video to baseline at the same bitrate and copied the audio stream it would play fine, its just at the max computation threshold.
sub'd... I want to see what you guys are doing, I'd really like to play at least 720p peacefully.
I've tried reencoding using Handbrake and get similar results. Jerky playback with audio. Smooth without. It's like small juddering every quarter second or so. Ignore the web playback that's already been explained that it's HTML5 and is not sending me the full 1080p stream anyhow.
In fact. If someone can send me a 720p video clip with audio that they say plays 100% smooth on their TF I could see if it's not 100% smooth here. If not (as I suspect it won't be) then it's either my TF has issues. Your eyesight is not picking it up or I am going nuts
deadman3000 said:
I've tried reencoding using Handbrake and get similar results. Jerky playback with audio. Smooth without. It's like small juddering every quarter second or so. Ignore the web playback that's already been explained that it's HTML5 and is not sending me the full 1080p stream anyhow.
In fact. If someone can send me a 720p video clip with audio that they say plays 100% smooth on their TF I could see if it's not 100% smooth here. If not (as I suspect it won't be) then it's either my TF has issues. Your eyesight is not picking it up or I am going nuts
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try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
I am using the same profile settings in handbrake (high profile) and ALL my videos are really smooth! and YES...I did have judder/stutter before. download the sample files and you can test it on your TF.
the ONLY downside is that handbrake takes a while to encode but its worth it!
hope this helps.
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While I agree that, officially, Honeycomb doesn't support the mkv container. It must be able to parse it as it does support WebM and that uses the matroska container.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6553908/with_audio_mp3.mkv
This is the same video stream but with the audio re-encoded to mp3, plays nicely for me in the default video player it I tack ".mp4" on the end to fool the player into trying to play it.
I don't stream but everything e.mote said about hinting is spot on, also you may want to look at interleaving (a feature of the muxing that MP4Box can do) is you want to stream.
earlyberd said:
A full 1080p video at 5 Mbit/s would take forever to buffer on a tablet, so it's highly unlikely that you're getting the full quality over the network stream.
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Way too generalized. I have a Playbook and it plays 1080p Youtube in the browser flawlessly.
I played The Cape clip from the example Handbrake settings thread. The clip plays with micro judder like every other clip with sound. I am now using a Prime 1.4 rooted not the stock firmware and it still does it. It is like frame drop every half or quarter second. If you have ever seen NTSC 23.976FPS played back on a PAL 50Hz CRT TV you will know what it looks like. It is very obvious on pans.
Surely I cannot be the ONLY person who can see this??? Are your eyes really that bad?
EDIT: Tried the MP3 version you provided. Still there. You can count the judder. Tick tick tick tick... every quarter second.
EDIT2: I guess the only way to demonstrate this to you guys is by way of a video of it along with some audio prompting from me to point it out to you (excuse the d(t)icks). You will notice that the audio drops out for some reason during playback but when it does the video plays buttery smooth. No idea why the audio drops out. I was playing back the MP3 muxed version from the link above using Moboplayer but this problem - the juddering - occurs with any player I have tried. The juddering happens on every single video I have tested it on when it is decoding audio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfdQP8BtEA
I will restate however. Yotube playback looks much smoother than playing a file from the inbuilt flash memory or SD cards.
I am having the same problem as you and I see the judder on these clips as well. I posted my issues in the encoding guide thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825&page=9
It has nothing to do with the overall bitrate rate as many of my samples are <2,000 kbps, and just like you, if I remove the AAC audio, video is silky smooth. I assume it's just a software issue that should be able to be resolved, but I guess we'll see...
e.mote said:
BTW, if you recoded the clip, then I suggest using better settings. The settings used are excessive. When facing a device with marginal playback, there is less tolerance for bad encodes. If you're anal about playback, then you should be equally anal about your encode settings.
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Thanks for that. But since your video judders just like every other clip that means diddly squat. I don't see why I should have to reencode every video I have in order for it to playback on the TF either. It should be able to handle 720p at least. It does play it but only plays it smoothly with no audio playback whatsoever.
bartleyg82 said:
I am having the same problem as you and I see the judder on these clips as well. I posted my issues in the encoding guide thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825&page=9
It has nothing to do with the overall bitrate rate as many of my samples are <2,000 kbps, and just like you, if I remove the AAC audio, video is silky smooth. I assume it's just a software issue that should be able to be resolved, but I guess we'll see...
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Phew! Thanks for chimeing in! I am glad it's not just me. Do you live in the UK perchance? If not that would rule out any UK specific reasons.
Nope, I'm in the US. My TF is also running Prime 1.4. I've tried the "stock" kernel and the OC kernel and the problem is the same with both. I didn't think to test video before rooting and installing Prime, so I can't vouch for whether or not it happens on completely stock HC 3.1
deadman3000 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfdQP8BtEA
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How... what...
Are you serious? I see literally no issue. Either my eyes or your camera, one of the two can't pick up this judder. And I did notice the compression in the better encode offered here (text, grappling hooks, lasers, pretty much anything like that. Not a bad result, but clearly visible)
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