After manually installing Tango (8773) on my Samsung Focus S and using Jaxbot's workaround to keep it Interop unlocked, I keep getting an alert that a firmware update is available. Is it safe to update the firmware without losing my Interop unlock, or should I keep it at its current state?
revxx14 said:
After manually installing Tango (8773) on my Samsung Focus S and using Jaxbot's workaround to keep it Interop unlocked, I keep getting an alert that a firmware update is available. Is it safe to update the firmware without losing my Interop unlock, or should I keep it at its current state?
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before updating you must make sure that you have done all your unlocks, interop, MMS, de branding, jaxbot relock work around etc,
you then must make a backup of your phone,
then you can apply the Samsung update, this WILL stop you unlocking, however because you have the unlocks already applied you will be able to re apply them if needed, (it wont allow you to add new xml data but as it was already applied before the update then you should be ok)
if you need to update your OS again I would strongly recommend that you revert to your PRE Samsung update backup
apply the new OS update,
make a new backup before applying the Samsung update again,
re apply the Samsung update an go from there.
ive heard of people having issues restoring backups when jumping across different versions of OS so making backups at each OS update BEFORE the Samsung update is probably a good habit to get in to,
its also a good habit to check that it is in fact interop/dev unlocked before applying the Samsung update
Firmware updates will not re-lock your phone (at least, none of them ever have). What they can do is prevent future hacks (unlocks or otherwise) from working.
If you already have WP7 Root Tools installed and working, you probably are afe to update. I do suggest creating a restore point first though, and backing up your old one.
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Hello,
Want to know if there is a problem to update my Samung Focus unlocked (not the one with token) from 7740 to 8107 without losing my unlock?
I'm having a backup, but it's a long process if I have to restore it and I always scared to do it.
Thanks
Anikachiktou said:
Hello,
Want to know if there is a problem to update my Samung Focus unlocked (not the one with token) from 7740 to 8107 without losing my unlock?
I'm having a backup, but it's a long process if I have to restore it and I always scared to do it.
Thanks
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You have a backup, thats good (make sure it shows up in Zune)
What I recommend to do is go to "C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update"
And copy the file that's called something like "f3874e8d - c6f37f88 - c1504a27 - f0452346" to another location (external HDD or so) just in case the update deletes the backup you have (has been reported in some threads, but shouldnt happen)
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Secondly if you update from 7740 -> 8107 nothing should change in terms of Unlock & Interop Unlock so you should be safe to just update it through the Zune program. A good mate of mine uses a Samsung and updated earlier this week tp 8107, and its still (interop) unlocked so..
IF however the phone gets locked (which I highly doubt will happen) you can just restore the backup you have and nothing bad will happen while restoring IF you leave your phone plugged in (I did the mistake of unplugging it during a restore... worst mistake ever! )
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That said you should be safe, just plug it in and update to 8107.
If the device happens to get locked, just Restore, you have 2 (the same) backup files anyway so you're safe
Good luck!
[edit] the only device (so far) that is affected aka locking the device again is the Samsung Omnia 7, that is NOT cause of the 8107 itself but cause of the KK2, from Samsung, update paired with the 8107.
IF your device gets locked and you think its cause of that, and you have restored it through Zune, AND you still want 8107, read this. Scroll down to Samsung section and read how to do it (its in red)
Wow, thanks! I'll do it maybe tomorrow, let you know
Anytime,
take yours the thread aint going anywhere.
Hope it works!
Hello folks,
I know there are a lot of threads going around that cater to this topic but I had just one little question. I have an Omnia 7 (8107, updated via zune) which is developer unlocked (no interop).
Is there any way, or will there be any way via which I can put custom accent colors on my phone?
I loved doing that using advanced config but I flashed my rom & all the changes I made were lost.
Also I loved having the 3g/2g toggle button, but ever since I flashed the new rom & updated it is no longer there. Is there anyway by which I can get back the toggle?
Thanks!
Why didn't you interop-unlock again? You can still use Advanced Config or similar apps if you do...
Use WindowBreak or any of the Interop-Unlock apps. If your firmware is incompatible, roll back first using Zune (it should be the last update, so easy to restore).
Hi, Thanks for replying. I don't want to roll back because I am unable to! I have a backup restore but my phone never restores to that point (gives me a weird error, I don't remember the code right now, my phone reboots twice and the restore fails giving me an error code. I did some digging around but didn't find anything useful)
It's the same story with ALL the restores that I have, I cannot roll back to any of those. Does windowbreak work on 8107?
Thanks for replying!
I said firmware, not OS (7.10.8107 is an OS build version). 8107 doesn't matter one way or the other, but some phones get a firmware update (Samsung's KK2 update) that disables hacks like WindowBreak and the other Interop Unlock tools.
Oh okay
my specs are :
PDA : i8700xxkk2
phone : i8700xxki1
csc : i8700xenjk1
So I guess, I have the kk2 which won't let me run windowbreak or any other tools. Am I right?
japmeet said:
Oh okay
my specs are :
PDA : i8700xxkk2
phone : i8700xxki1
csc : i8700xenjk1
So I guess, I have the kk2 which won't let me run windowbreak or any other tools. Am I right?
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japmeet, unfortunatly kk2 was just to break the project, nothing more.
I have an Omnia 7 and i can give you two advices about what i did:
A)First, i have downgrade to 7.0.7004.0 and run windowbreak or chevronwp7 and then u can update,i suggest manually to 8107 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
B) I also tried after downgrade to 7.0.7004.0, done a clean reset and tried the custom already unlocked roms:
mi7ROM from mirolg: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499102
xda-devs from ceesheim: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533229
Maybe you can try it!
Thanks for replying but doing so will result in a loss of my text messages which I don't want to go through again. I think I'll wait until the devs come up with something that can break the kk2's defences. Thanks!
As it looks like theres no way using a Developer unlocked Mobile to run Apps or now that Samsung have blocked the Interop Unlock - even when you restore.
Is it possible to download a Previous update and "update" the phone that way. An update that doesnt have the block and so it doesnt affect the data on the phone?
Thanks in Advance.
"Updating" to an older version is not possible, no. It might be possible to spoof the current version to an old one, if the phone is interop-unlocked, and then "upgrade" to a firmware release that's actually older than your current one... but even that might not actually work, if the updater checks the checksums of the "old" files. It wouldn't work with OS updates for sure; those contain differential (rather than canonical) patches.
Installing an old, stock ROM with the old firmware does work. However, while this is possible with Samsung gen1 phones, I don't believe anybody has found a way to do it with gen2 phones yet.
Finally, restoring a phone backup (as made by Zune when updating, or as made using the Easy Backup tool which just spoofs the update process), definitely does restore both your unlocks and your ability to unlock - that is, it restores the registry (where the unlocks are controlled from) and it restores the firmware (where the ability to unlock is implemented). If this didn't work for you, it's due to one of two things:
A) Your backup (more properly called a "restore point") was created at a time when your phone already had relocked and lost the ability to unlock.
A.1) You can use an older restore point, if you kept them (which I strongly recommend); just move it back to %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update.
A.2) Before you ask, no, you can't use somebody else's restore point; they have device-specific encryption that we haven't broken yet.
B) Your restore worked, but trying to interop-unlock again failed because you updated your Diagnostics app from the Marketplace.
B.1) You can undo this by first uninstalling Diagnostics from the app list, then re-installing it using the phone dialer.
The other option is to use the stock flash tool and just update to Mango from stock.
I have the files for the Samsung Focus v1.3
I can upload them, but if you use it on another device, or on v1.4 it might brick your phone.
Just say if wanted.
I have used it a number of times, because of screwing up my phone and it not being able to boot up, even after formatting.
You will just need to put the phone into download mode, and it takes about two minutes.
Greetings,
Just bought a brand new (directly from Google) Nexus 5. It came with 4.4.3 and immediately notified about an "update available", in which it downloaded and installed 4.4.4.
I then went on and Unlocked my bootloader in preparation for a root (I did not root yet, full stock). But I am not getting any update for Lollipop, not even when I manually Check for Updates.
Are these OTA updates come/pushed randomly, or did the Unlocking of the bootloader prevented an automatic OTA update?
I am aware of the option to manually update, I am just curious if the Unlocking prevents updates. If so, if I re-lock the bootloader again will I then get the OTA update?
Thanks.
No, it doesn't change anything. OTA updates are staged so you just probably haven't had it yet...
Unlocking does not affect OTA. But keep in mind you'll likely have to re-root if you get auto updated.
Thank you both!
Am I correct to assume that Rooting also will not prevent OTA updates?
sbi1 said:
Thank you both!
Am I correct to assume that Rooting also will not prevent OTA updates?
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It won't prevent getting the ota but it will prevent it from installing
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Gota. So either:
Stock+Root and no updates
Stock+No-Root
Or Root+Custom
?!
sbi1 said:
Gota. So either:
Stock+Root and no updates
Stock+No-Root
Or Root+Custom
?!
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In order for the ota to install you have to be 100% stock system, kernel, recovery, and radio. If you've modified any of those you'll have to return them to stock before the ota will install. There are ways to do that but it depends on the specifics of any modifications you've done to the device. Frankly, it's easier to just flash the new factory image than it is to take the ota if you've modified your device.
Edit, to the best of my knowledge modifying your device, short of deleting our freezing some system files specifically related to receiving updates, will not prevent you from getting the ota, just installing it.
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OK, so just to make sure I understand: Is Unlocking the Bootloader making my system not 100% stock? Which means, even if the update downloads it will not install?
Also - again, if I understand correctly - based on what you say I can root, I will receive the update OTA but it won't install. Is this correct?
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OK, so just to make sure I understand: Is Unlocking the Bootloader making my system not 100% stock? Which means, even if the update downloads it will not install?
Also - again, if I understand correctly - based on what you say I can root, I will receive the update OTA but it won't install. Is this correct?
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If you just unlock the bootloader you should have no trouble installing the ota. You'll have to unroot to install the ota. You can use the full unroot option in supersu
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I have a z3 for t mobile rooted. Now when the z3 get's 5.0 from t mobile how would the ota work ? Would it work if i'm rooted ?
OTA should work if you did not alter the system files, even if your device is rooted, therefore, you "should be" able to retain root through OTA. When i say "altered" i meant removing any bloatware the from the original FW or any other modifications.
LitoNi said:
OTA should work if you did not alter the system files, even if your device is rooted, therefore, you "should be" able to retain root through OTA. When i say "altered" i meant removing any bloatware the from the original FW or any other modifications.
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.+I did remove all of t mobiles bloatware. When the ota does come out what will i have to do ?
dia_naji said:
.+I did remove all of t mobiles bloatware. When the ota does come out what will i have to do ?
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to my extent of knowledge, you wont be able to perform an OTA update since youve already removed the bloatware applications. if you want, you might have to perform a fresh start retaining the bloatware. Again, wait till the OTA update is there, try to update it, if it fails then fresh start it.
This is one of the reason why i would not root my device until Sony is done finish killing all the bugs, especially when Lollipop was just recently launched. That said, next time you can try to disable the bloatware if possible rather than completely removing them from the device system.