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First off, I am an HTC fan. I am intensely brand loyal so please DO NOT begin with Hater/fanboy retorts. This is not why I created this thread. I actually have questions, that I hope some of you can answer/weigh in on objectively for me. Here goes.
I have been waiting to upgrade from my HD2 for almost a year now. The HD2 was my first HTC phone and I was hooked on its build quality and versatility. I had been really excited about the Sensation until i saw some of its specs and equipment. Of note, there are three key areas that are of vital importance to me: Ram, Storage and Battery.
I "assumed" that the Sensation, being a flagship phones, was going to blow the doors off anything in the dual core category. But after seeing these spec comparisons (http://firstain.com/index.php/2011/...roid-bionic-vs-lg-optimus-3d-thrill-4g-fight/) not only does the sensation not lead, but up against its primary competition, it trails the Galaxy and even its won Cousin, the EVO 3D, in these categories making it third. More importantly it comes with the smallest internal memory of ALL the phones being compared...
1. My first question and observation is this. If the EVO 3D has 1 gig RAM and 4gigs internal, why did they NOT do this for the Sensation? This could have been accomplished. Why was it not at least matched to make the phone better?
2. With regards to RAM an its significance see the attached videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrCWYZkQRIo. (Go to the 7:35 mark). Why would a flagship phone be so limited out of the gate? This could have been addressed to make the phone better correct?
3. In terms of memory and how fast the phone will process functions, this comes from a review posted here:
"Flaws in this whole situation include the fact that while the Galaxy S II pairs its 1.2GHz dual-core with 1GB of RAM, the HTC Sensation uses just 768MB. Samsung’s device has 16GB of memory packed in, while HTC makes due with just 1GB. There’s an 8GB microSD card in there, but you can add a bunch more memory to the GSII the same way if you want. Davies notes the truth: “[T]here’s just no way that even a fast microSDHC card can be as quick as NANDFlash connected directly to the logic board, and that leaves the Sensation at a speed disadvantage.”
Do you buy what the reviewer is saying as opinion or fact? If fact, then, again, why is this offering by HTC not just below the Samsung rival, but that of the EVO 3D with its 1 gig RAM and 4 gig memory? Just questions, no flames please.
Lastly, anyone can attest, that has used a 4.3 inch HTC screen, that a primary complaint is battery life. I dare say that HTC customers make up the majority of people who put the Current Widget app on the map. We are always looking for tips and tricks to squeeze more juice out of the battery. With the screen being the biggest hog, I was sure that HTC would address this with the Sensation. Again, to their credit they did, but again in comparison to the Galaxy, EVO 3d and almost every other battery in the links above, is next to last.
Techradar's HTC Sensation Battery Review:
"We've always been slightly confused by HTC phones when it comes to the battery life, as they seem to offer wildly different experiences depending on who is using them it seems.
The HTC Desire was fine for us when it came to lasting a day, but others found it would be dead by 7PM. The Desire HD was more universally panned for a poor battery, but still some chastised our verdict of it being unacceptable.
Well, it's going to happen again with the HTC Sensation, as the battery life, to us, seems woeful and not up to scratch. We're talking dead by 8PM with no push email, minimal Wi-Fi and about 30 mins of music and video at the most.
We've cycled it a few times to see if it can be improved, but the same things happens: it holds charge averagely well mostly, but then will get very warm and discharge at a rate of 10% per hour... which is a familiar scenario with the Desire HD.
We constantly kept the applications killed and the notifications to a minimum - but it seems only turning off the background synchronisation altogether helped the issue. And don't even think about hammering the camera in the middle of the day, or you'll be without a phone come the evening for sure.
That said, we're going to request another sample to test this out with, as it's probably the poorest experience we've had on an HTC device so far, so it's only fair we test to make sure it wasn't just a diff unit.
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pho...-943466/review?artc_pg=7
Again, I am brand loyal so I will be buying another HTC phone, but to be honest, these three areas were major concerns when I bought the hd2 and still are impacting me since I still use it. I will probably hold off on the Sensation because I don't want another "hd2/hd7" situation happening again. I want the best that htc can offer and I don't think they did that "IMO."I just want to know what you think the reasons are for the lack of details to the Sensation - in particular since the EVO 3D will not have theses problems. Thanks in advance.
PS - I know no phones is "perfect". This is being asked in light of technology today and expectations of HTC's manufacturing expertise.
simply put yes...
Of course they could have made it better. 1GB of RAM, 8GB of internal memory and a 1900 MAh battery like the Atrix. They could also have put a better screen in it (see Engadget's review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/). Anyways, I think the battery life is acceptable, as it can last a full day on heavy use and I'm already used to charge every night.
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Of course they could have made it better. 1GB of RAM, 8GB of internal memory and a 1900 MAh battery like the Atrix. They could also have put a better screen in it (see Engadget's review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/). Anyways, I think the battery life is acceptable, as it can last a full day on heavy use and I'm already used to charge every night.
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yeah, the thinking behind the features is a bit of a head scratcher to me. especially since I see the specs of the Evo 3D. maybe reaching the specs of the Atrix was not their intent with, but I the EVO clearly shows that they "could have" done a bit more for the Sensation. Its the "why not" that is thorn in my side. thanks.
It all comes down to sales and HTC will spec the phone to maximise their profit.
Some of us here at XDA will want the best of everything and be happy to pay for it.
But out in the rest of the world HTC have to be competative , and adding these upgrades will increase the handset price, and price for most people is a real factor in choosing a handset.
Between the SGS2 and the sensation there is very little differnce when you are using it, sure we can compare benchmarks and see a small difference but in the hand of the average consumer i think not. So HTC marketing team have estimated that this is the best set of features and price to maximise sales.
rumpleforeskin said:
It all comes down to sales and HTC will spec the phone to maximise their profit.
Some of us here at XDA will want the best of everything and be happy to pay for it.
But out in the rest of the world HTC have to be competative , and adding these upgrades will increase the handset price, and price for most people is a real factor in choosing a handset.
Between the SGS2 and the sensation there is very little differnce when you are using it, sure we can compare benchmarks and see a small difference but in the hand of the average consumer i think not. So HTC marketing team have estimated that this is the best set of features and price to maximise sales.
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First of all, thanks for the reply. I guess I have a hard time with this logic since I can clearly see that the EVO 3D is a step above the Sensation - and is coming to the market at the same time. Again, when I posed this question it stemmed from the fact that I have visual evidence of HTC having the capabilities to create a device that is on par or above the Galaxy.
I am just talking feature for feature. And in the three categories - that were important to me - the sensation was created below the bar. (Notice I DID NOT QUOTE BENCHMAARKS on purpose because I am willing to let the quadrant people make an app that "accurately" measures dual cores). The EVO and the Sensation will be priced relatively the same so I don't get the price factor making a difference. Hell, give me the specs of the EVO 3d and I will be the first in line on the 8th. That is all.
What I will say is...
When the Desire HD Came out... people warned against buying it simply because people considered it a "stop gap" in lue of upcomming dual cores.
After seeing the HTC Sensation I will NOT be purchasing it. This phone is a HUGE let down comming from the Desire HD.
I will wait till the IPhone 5 comes out and when HTC will release a TRUE Flagship phone.
BTW Dumb poll options.
Add : No will not purchase.
Most reviews are giving the phone lower then 8. Desire HD got 9-10/10.
My inspire 4G has a better screen then the Sensation.
I just don't get why they wouldn't put a gig of ram like they did on the EVO 3D. That's my main (and probably only) gripe. I guess they could have put more internal storage, but that's not a big deal. Engadget said in their testings that the battery life was better than what they got on the SGS II, so I guess it depends on who you ask.
Maedhros said:
What I will say is...
When the Desire HD Came out... people warned against buying it simply because people considered it a "stop gap" in lue of upcomming dual cores.
After seeing the HTC Sensation I will NOT be purchasing it. This phone is a HUGE let down comming from the Desire HD.
I will wait till the IPhone 5 comes out and when HTC will release a TRUE Flagship phone.
BTW Dumb poll options.
Add : No will not purchase.
Most reviews are giving the phone lower then 8. Desire HD got 9-10/10.
My inspire 4G has a better screen then the Sensation.
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I am actually more dumbfounded than anything. I too was awaiting the arrival of this super phone but really am clueless about this phone in light of the EVO 3D's specs. I will wait as well. However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
BTW, thanks for your "eloquent" poll suggestion. I tried to edit the post but did not see the option.
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I just don't get why they wouldn't put a gig of ram like they did on the EVO 3D. That's my main (and probably only) gripe. I guess they could have put more internal storage, but that's not a big deal. Engadget said in their testings that the battery life was better than what they got on the SGS II, so I guess it depends on who you ask.
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“[T]here’s just no way that even a fast microSDHC card can be as quick as NANDFlash connected directly to the logic board, and that leaves the Sensation at a speed disadvantage.”
According to this, more internal memory would be extremely beneficial speed wise. For the simple fact that its dubbed the "flag ship" you would think they would add internal memory as a basic premium. Guess not.
The evo 3d only has more ram cause of the actual 3d recording and pictures ability. If the evo 3d has 4 gig rom then most likely it has only 1 gig accessible to the user. Cause the system and the nand need memory space as well.
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I am actually more dumbfounded than anything. I too was awaiting the arrival of this super phone but really am clueless about this phone in light of the EVO 3D's specs. I will wait as well. However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
BTW, thanks for your "eloquent" poll suggestion. I tried to edit the post but did not see the option.
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Hm.. not sure how to edit polls sorry!
I agree... I dont think the Sensation is a true upgrade from the Desire HD.... For 1, the SLCD is inferior to the One on the Inspire 4G. Secondly Aluminum UniBody what??? I havent held the phone so I cant give an accurate representation however when I imagine Uni Body I immagine...Desire HD and HTC Legend! To me the Sensation looks like its not a Unibody simply because half of it comes off I cant say if any1 else will agree with me, but people who have used the phone say that it does no have the same sturdy feel as the Desire HD.
It seems to me as if HTC took what was good with the Desire HD and just doubled it. And sure that is a good formual... but when all of your competiion is doubling + improving it... doubling alone is not enough.
ATM even if u have the original Desire I would say skip on the HTC Sensation.
**Just so its clear I am a HTC Fanboy, but srsly... HTC has been doing this sort of stuff from the Windows Mobile Days... its getting really ridicules. Don't want to see this happening on Android.
Edit: For those who dont know what I mean.. .In Win Mobil days with HTC u generally brought phones every 2 Generations... simply because between generations there was not a very big difference between phones.
I feel HTC may again start doing this with Android... and it is very disappointing!
steve austin said:
However, knowing HTC, they will release the proper sensation equivalent on at&t as a makeup for that crappy Inspire. Grrrrrrrr.
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Haha, they basically are. It's called the HTC Holiday. The only difference I've seen in the specs is that it has a 4.5" screen and 1 GB of RAM. I'd link an article, but I don't have enough posts.
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Haha, they basically are. It's called the HTC Holiday. The only difference I've seen in the specs is that it has a 4.5" screen and 1 GB of RAM. I'd link an article, but I don't have enough posts.
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Cheekie bastids!
Grrrrrrrrr!
The one thing I have to add is that RAM is relatively power hungry, so this may have been a factor after some poor battery performances in HTC phones recently.
After using this phone for a week, I can safely say It's not had any performance problems in my usage (web, gaming, video streaming, music playing, online purchases through apps, SIP and voice calls, 2g to WiFi connectivity). The only problem of note so far is that the music widget crashes Sense now and again, but having said that, it did with my HD2 on occasion too.
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Bottom line is that yes they could have made it better, but like others have said it's all down to sales.
While the world is trying to grab the fastest dual core phones which are at around 1.2ghz at the moment, don't think for a minute that the technology doesn't exist to make a 2.0ghz phone with 2gig of ram and even more internal storage with an even fatter battery, because not only does it exist but they are probably already testing it for future phones.
As consumers, we will get what we are given and have very little input as to what that will be, we can moan and moan at HTC or other companies but at the end of the day, it's always down to them.
The sensation will be a great phone i have no doubt but to move from the Desire HD for instance would be a mistake, the Evo 3d looks to be the better HTC phone on paper and will probably win overall when compared to the sensation.
There will be a tonne of people who will see this as the latest and greatest and will make HTC a load of cash so it's a win for HTC and a loss for us (the consumer) again.
Just hope that the dev's on XDA and other places can do their magic and make these phones work the way they were ment to, not how the likes of HTC think they should be, which imho is barely acceptable.
From what I have read, it looks like the Sensation has only the qHD upgraded from DHD, I am waiting for more deep reviews for the camera.
Speaker and screen sunlight performances are the same!
If only we could get a SGS2 with Sense 3.0...
i dont think ram is a big problem on this phone ...
i often get 170 mb free ram after kill all apps with taskmanager ...
i think when we need it we can get it .... especially if we want the most free ram we can get when we want to play games and stuff...
i dont think any app uses more than that at the moment
dladz said:
Bottom line is that yes they could have made it better, but like others have said it's all down to sales.
While the world is trying to grab the fastest dual core phones which are at around 1.2ghz at the moment, don't think for a minute that the technology doesn't exist to make a 2.0ghz phone with 2gig of ram and even more internal storage with an even fatter battery, because not only does it exist but they are probably already testing it for future phones.
As consumers, we will get what we are given and have very little input as to what that will be, we can moan and moan at HTC or other companies but at the end of the day, it's always down to them.
The sensation will be a great phone i have no doubt but to move from the Desire HD for instance would be a mistake, the Evo 3d looks to be the better HTC phone on paper and will probably win overall when compared to the sensation.
There will be a tonne of people who will see this as the latest and greatest and will make HTC a load of cash so it's a win for HTC and a loss for us (the consumer) again.
Just hope that the dev's on XDA and other places can do their magic and make these phones work the way they were ment to, not how the likes of HTC think they should be, which imho is barely acceptable.
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Samsung Galaxy S II breaks 1m sales record in Korea
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung...essor-in-1h-2011-plus-4g-galaxy-tab-20110530/
The article above clearly shows that you can make a quality product, "push" the envelop on current current technology, get great reviews, break sales records AND sell it a price higher than the Sensation. The technology is there and some company's are using it now.
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The one thing I have to add is that RAM is relatively power hungry, so this may have been a factor after some poor battery performances in HTC phones recently.
After using this phone for a week, I can safely say It's not had any performance problems in my usage (web, gaming, video streaming, music playing, online purchases through apps, SIP and voice calls, 2g to WiFi connectivity). The only problem of note so far is that the music widget crashes Sense now and again, but having said that, it did with my HD2 on occasion too.
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How many hours can you go performing theses functions before you have to charge up again?
Hi mates, I've been reading up on comments, reviews and opinions on the Evo 3d and Sensation for the past few weeks and am already getting headaches from it. Now I'm at the brink of buying one of these (preferably this week as my iphone makes me sick more and more).
Your opinion is very important to me as I'm about to extend my contract for 2 years!
I don't need the 3d, but I'm having the feeling that the Evo3d is the overall better device. However, the bulky design and the inferior camera make it hard not to go for the Sensation (especially since I don't give a damn about 3d).
What I need to know from you guys are the follwoing things:
1. The Sensation's been known to have a slight lag in Sense and overall slower performance compared to the evo 3d. It was said many times this could be due to software issues. Has the performance since been improved in a way that it's on par with the Evo? Are the European units any better/different than the American ones?
2. I live in Europe. Are chances high I will get a faulty unit with a bad touchscreen? It seems to be a hardware issue so I guess there will be no software fix and sending the unit in 5 times with weeks of waiting in between is a dealbreaker for me.
3. I have read many reviews saying the Sensations battery life is superior to that of the Evo 3d and I have read just as many reviews that claim the opposite.
I do the occasional surfing while in train/bus, maybe 1-2h of music listening, checking emails several times a day and use google maps+GPS from time to time. No 3d use, movie watching or hours of gaming intended. Which one will serve me better?
The Sensation is slicker and doesn't have the ugly and unhandy camera-bumps like the Evo, but I'm very allergic to lag so if the Sensation is just underpowered compared to the Evo, i'll go with the snappier of the two.
Thank you!
As far as I know, the EVO 3D is pretty much identical hardware to the Sensation. And it also runs Sense 3.0. Check here for a comparision: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3901&idPhone2=3875
With a custom Sense ROM, it is much more smooth.
Really don't see why the EVO 3D performance would be THAT much better then the Sensation...
The touchscreen isn't a problem. The only issues seem to be on the lockscreen, so it's software.
I don't see the reason either (apart from 1gb ram over 768mb) but apparently the Evo runs soomther plus i hear the sensation starts to show lag over time...
anyways, evry review says evo is snappier... i just wonder whether thi sis soething that can be fixed by updates or if it is due to bad hardware
My experience is limited to the Sensation only, but:
1. Yes. Annoyingly so. Stock performance on the Telstra model isn't very good. I've used three units and all have been identical. Once you S-OFF, install a custom ROM and a custom kernel, the problem is lessened somewhat. Sense 3.0 seems to underpin all the problems with this device.
2. Completely random. Out of the dozen or so people I know who own Telstra units, I am the only one with a 'good' Sharp panel. There's not a lot of difference in the picture quality of both screens, but there is a definite difference in the ghosting while scrolling. Mine's better, but it's still there. Looks to me like a refresh rate issue, but I'm not sure. Apparently the digitiser can 'de-sensitise' over time, I've had mine a fortnight and no issues as of yet.
3. I find the Sensation's battery life admirable. After a moderate day's use I get home with 80-60% remaining. I don't OC, I use WiFi all day at home and HSPA when I'm out, make a few calls, send maybe 80 texts, download a few apps and listen to music for an hour or so. Even after a solid hour of continuous Market browsing, I'd reportedly lost <10%.
Good luck in your choice!
Those side-effects are all results of Sense. Just install CyanogenMod or any other AOSP ROM (when they're released) for a much, much better experience.
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Those side-effects are all results of Sense. Just install CyanogenMod or any other AOSP ROM (when they're released) for a much, much better experience.
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Absolutely.
I've never been a fan of CyanogenMod, but I will say that I am very much looking forward to it becoming available for the Sensation. The Alpha AOSP ROM looks promising also!
Thank you very much juzz86 and the others. Your post was very helpful. The thing is, I WANT Sense 3.0. If it was for the hardware alone, I'd go with the SGSII, although it's butt-ugly and feels like a child's toy in your hand. The Sensation's hardware is not so sensational when you compare it to other flagship phones. It's Sense that is making me want a HTC phone, but if the darn device can't handle it, despite dual core fanfare, I don't want it.
I'm so disappointed in this device It should have been everything the SGSII is, but with better design and Sense on top.
Anyways, the Evo seems to deal just fine with Sense 3.0 (at least that's what I read). I think I will give it a shot then, but not before I actually had the device in my hands. I'm a Pperson that is rather careless with it's phone. My iphone survived just fine because of a rubber case that saved it many times. But The Evo has ONE big glass plate in front of the two cam lenses... one unfortunate drop and goodbye picture taking.
I will have to think about that and see how the device actually feels...
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Thank you very much juzz86 and the others. Your post was very helpful. The thing is, I WANT Sense 3.0. If it was for the hardware alone, I'd go with the SGSII, although it's butt-ugly and feels like a child's toy in your hand. The Sensation's hardware is not so sensational when you compare it to other flagship phones. It's Sense that is making me want a HTC phone, but if the darn device can't handle it, despite dual core fanfare, I don't want it.
I'm so disappointed in this device It should have been everything the SGSII is, but with better design and Sense on top.
Anyways, the Evo seems to deal just fine with Sense 3.0 (at least that's what I read). I think I will give it a shot then, but not before I actually had the device in my hands. I'm a Pperson that is rather careless with it's phone. My iphone survived just fine because of a rubber case that saved it many times. But The Evo has ONE big glass plate in front of the two cam lenses... one unfortunate drop and goodbye picture taking.
I will have to think about that and see how the device actually feels...
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Sounds like a plan. Don't drop the coin on it unless you're happy (only stupid people do that... ).
A recommendation: If you love Sense, and daily performance is more important to you than what looks good on paper, the Incredible S is an extremely good choice. It's 'just' a single-core, and it runs an older Sense, but it absolutely runs rings around the Sensation. The only real difference between the Sense version is the lockscreen, which is the only 'plus' I've come across in Sense 3.0
Thx for the advice, but I think it's rather stupid to buy a single core mobile in the age of dualcore processors and quadcore soon to be unleashed onto the world. I don't care if my Lambo is slower compared to a F1 Ferrari, but that don't mean I 'd go with a Fiat too
One more question regarding the lag/slowness of the phone: Is it sluggish out of the box or does it's performance degrade over time? How bad is it?
I often hear people complain about ceratin bugs, but only few seem to feel bothered by the performance...
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Thx for the advice, but I think it's rather stupid to buy a single core mobile in the age of dualcore processors and quadcore soon to be unleashed onto the world. I don't care if my Lambo is slower compared to a F1 Ferrari, but that don't mean I 'd go with a Fiat too
One more question regarding the lag/slowness of the phone: Is it sluggish out of the box or does it's performance degrade over time? How bad is it?
I often hear people complain about ceratin bugs, but only few seem to feel bothered by the performance...
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For me it was slow out of the box. But I just flashed InsertCoin and it's very smooth compared to stock. CM7 will be even smoother
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
I don't know whether I should be happy or afraid because of that :O
Will CM7 still have Sense 3.0 or is it something completly different? I'm new to andorid, sry have no clue about it... Just saw that InsertCoin still has it.
I just read that the European Version of the Evo 3d isn't h4ackable as of now Different bootloader version or sumthin...
Yeah great, now I'm reconsidering the Sensation with a custom ROM. Geez this is getting old now...
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I don't know whether I should be happy or afraid because of that :O
Will CM7 still have Sense 3.0 or is it something completly different? I'm new to andorid, sry have no clue about it... Just saw that InsertCoin still has it.
I just read that the European Version of the Evo 3d isn't h4ackable as of now Different bootloader version or sumthin...
Yeah great, now I'm reconsidering the Sensation with a custom ROM. Geez this is getting old now...
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CM7 will not have Sense at all. Most of the current crop of ROMs available still have Sense - even those that offer a 'sense-less' option still have the underlying frameworks included.
For me it was untolerable out of the box. I'm very susceptible to lag though.
I stick by my recommendation of a good single-core over a dual-core at this point. If it's fluid and quick in everyday operation, do you really need anything else? It's all just hype at this point, and the real-life benefits of dual cores aren't here yet.
I've ditched my Sensation for a Sharp SH-12C and it stomps all over it with just a single core and it does (pretty cool) 3D to boot. Pretty hard to come by, but so far a very polished package, and I'm getting much more enjoyment from it than from the Sensation.
I'm a big fan of stock android. I love cm can't wait for it to become available. That would definitely speed up things. Not sure I care about sense.
On another note I completely abuse my phone as far a use goes. WiFi on all day now Bluetooth too. I get 5.5hrs on a full charge. But again I completely abuse my phone. I listen to music all damn day I have a car charger so I'm happy and love my phone.
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I was sick of waiting and got the sensation yesterday. Haven't had too much time to spend with it but so far things are looking good, and it's fast, I see no lag. Only thing that's bothering me is te free memory, which is somewhere around 100mb usually. that's kinda lame. Why on earth did HTC not include simply 1gig?
No I wonder which rom to install. I figure crystal pyramid isn't too bad?
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I was sick of waiting and got the sensation yesterday. Haven't had too much time to spend with it but so far things are looking good, and it's fast, I see no lag. Only thing that's bothering me is te free memory, which is somewhere around 100mb usually. that's kinda lame. Why on earth did HTC not include simply 1gig?
No I wonder which rom to install. I figure crystal pyramid isn't too bad?
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Task Manager is showing the wrong amount of RAM, go to Settings-Applications-Running Services and check there. I agree it should have been 1 GB though
For a ROM I recommend InsertCoin 2.3.4 because it's very fast However, maybe you will like another one better, so try them out and use the one you like best.
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I was sick of waiting and got the sensation yesterday. Haven't had too much time to spend with it but so far things are looking good, and it's fast, I see no lag. Only thing that's bothering me is te free memory, which is somewhere around 100mb usually. that's kinda lame. Why on earth did HTC not include simply 1gig?
No I wonder which rom to install. I figure crystal pyramid isn't too bad?
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Glad to hear you got a good one mate, nice job. I was also a bit skeptical of the reported RAM under the task switcher, seemed very low. As stated above, it appears to be a bit off. Uninstalling Sense actually freed up about 80MB for me, so hopefully something like AOSP will free up even more and make it really sing.
Crystal Pyramid is very nice. You won't be disappointed with any of the custom Sense ROMs at all, they're all nice and slick.
Enjoy!
I also have problems with the fact that the phone is so slow,and i was expecting much much more from it,i couldn't wait to finally get my hand on a Sensation .I have the stock rom with no modifications,but my Desire HD was also stock and it worked perfect,with no lag.I was playing Angry Birds Rio yesterday and the phone had lots of lags(like a video with low frame rate),and there wasn't any running program in the background .The Desire HD never had this problem,even if there were programs running in the background,the phone worked flawlessly.I am starting to regret that i sold the desire hd and bought the Sensation.
Hello,
Next month I'll be moving to UK, according to this I'll be choosing new operator, new plan and of course, new mobile phone. I've been searching on the internet for a phone that might suit my needs. I ended up at HTC Sensation or Desire S. Whichever plan I'm looking at, Sensation is always about 100 pounds more expensive than Desire S. My question is; is Sensation worth those extra 100 pounds? Or is Desire S a better deal?
I've been using Symbian OS for the past years, I used to play with my phone over the borders of warranty, so I definitelly plan to do this with my next phone as well, that's why I chose Android as my next OS.
HTC seems as a high quality phone, manufactured well and that's important for me (no plastic such as Samsung). That's the reason I go for HTC.
I don't know anything about rooting and modifyng yet, but I read that every model has different possibilities; I'd like to hear differences between those two even in this area. This acts a big part!
I'd describe myself as an intermediate user, I like to suit everything to my needs. What I expect from my future phone:
-daily email and IM contact
-fast while multitasking
-battery capacity acts a big role in my decision
-great google calendar integration, as well as Facebook or any other IM
-good camera (Desire S is okay for me)
-Dropbox - access to my cloud
-as a student, I'll need to work with documents (.pdf .doc .xls)
-as a Linux user, good integration with Linux OS on my laptop
-occasionally use of GPS (moving to a new country)
-display that is clear outdoors (I'm afraid, HTC is not the best at this point)
-not being a pain while having it in my pocket - I mean, not a super huge monster (I'm afraid, Sensation is too big)
-generally, a phone that will last 2 years
I am open to new possibilities (HTC Cha Cha?). I guess both of them are well on hardware, this should not be an issue - but I might be wrong!
So which one would you suggest me? Invest a bit more into Sensation? Maybe some ideas from current users? I would really appreciate any response here, as I am completely lost and don't want to regret my decision in future!
P.S. Some suggestion about UK providers might be usefull as well
Thanks in advance!
-Uhro
Just my 0.02c Uhro, so feel free to disregard :
I have only limited experience with the Desire S, but have used an Incredible S (same hardware) extensively and own a Sensation. I'm a long-time fan of HTC phones, they're reasonably well-built and I'm a fan of Sense (it's one of those things you either love or hate, I think). The major downsides of their current handsets are poor loudspeakers and mediocre cameras.
I enjoyed my Incredible S far more than I enjoy my Sensation. For a powerful handset, it seems to struggle with a lot of things. I'm sure this is only due to Sense 3.0, but it still shouldn't happen. The day-to-day performance of my Incredible S blew it away, in both speed and fluidness of operation. I don't buy into the whole 'dual-core is better' argument just yet; the only dual-core phone I've had that actually 'felt' like a dual-core is the Motorola Atrix.
Screen quality is a well-raised issue with the Sensation. There are two, possibly more, screen variants available and they occur at random. I guess I was lucky; my Sensation has the Sharp screen. While colour reproduction and picture quality are about even (I've had lots of opportunity to compare), the 'ghosting' exhibited while scrolling through the browser and UI differs greatly, with the Sharp unit seeming superior. I have to say that in terms of screens, the Incredible S was far better; only the IPS on the LG Optimus 2x has been in the same league (to me) so far.
If specs aren't important to you, and everyday fluidness and performance in the UI are, I'd suggest the Desire S, or Incredible S if that's also an option. I found it just as zippy as the Incredible, although the screen was a little small for me. They're comparable in weight, and the Sensation actually isn't a whole lot bigger.
For HTC phones, they must have a lock removed on the phone memory before anything can be modified. You'll see this referred to as 'S-OFF'. Once S-OFF is obtained (there are software utilities available, plus a hardware solution exists) you can flash any ROM, Recovery, Radio etc. that is supported. I'd suggest browsing the forums for both devices to see which options appeal most.
Sorry for the long-winded response, hope this helps somewhat
The Sensation might be a good idea if you're on a contract/term and are trying to stay "futureproof". The Sensation does have its kinks, but they're being worked out constantly.
+1 for Desire S
i prefer sensation，desire s just like desire, changed a bit not much
Sensation ALLL THE WAYYYYYYY
Get the sensation. DO IT.
It's just been released and the ROM isn't as polished as the ones before like the desire/incredible/etc that's all.
BTW as far as smoothness goes, a Custom ROM should resolve anything pretty easily with a few minutes of work. The dual Core will make it a much better purchase as far as Future proofing is concerned.
The QHD screen is another reason to go for the sensation. If you are worried about the price just wait for a few more months. (If you can, that is! )
Thanks a lot guys for the responses! I'm a bit puzzled right now, maybe my 'lucky coin' should decide for me, pitty I don't have one yet
I think that my personal feelings will decide, while I will see both of them, display quality, and how do they both fit into my hands.. Because I see, that both of them have pros and cons.. Still a month to go, so many things or offers might change..
Anyway, big thanks for your experiences!
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I've been using Symbian OS for the past years, I used to play with my phone over the borders of warranty, so I definitelly plan to do this with my next phone as well, that's why I chose Android as my next OS.
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the sensation has a much bigger community here on xda than the desire. if you plan on modding your phone, this is good news for you (because there is more development going on for the sensation than the desire; more development=more roms and kernels=more customization)
I really was a HTC fanboy, both software and hardware wise, after seeing their first HTC Desire and later the Desire HD. That made me ditch the iphone and switch to android.
Recently, I am starting to regret having bought the Sensation. Build quality my arse. This phone is full of bugs and disappointments, my biggest issues being:
- Power Button issue (no its NOT software related, at least not with my unit and the "fix" don't work)
- Battery reading and jumping issues. My phone stays way too long on 100% and then takes a dive instead of showing the energy levels correctly. And no matter what it shows, when I restart it the percentage magically jumps up around 15%, only to drop swiftly little later. Yes I did calibrate the battery in Android and yes I did several charge-discharge circles with all my 3 batteries.
- Sluggish Performance. Yes there are "ultra-hyper-mega-omega-smooth" ROMs but it only helps so much, many menus still have an apparent lag when scrolling, most famously the appdrawer (when u install more than just a few apps) and whatsapp when scrolling through chat history.
Also, in Electopia benchmark, the highest I get is 30 FPS, with an AOSP ROM. SGSII users get 49 fps no problem and they don't need to OC their device to 8.7GHz like we do to achieve it. I know benchmarks say nothing but this is a game with nice graphics and I can actually SEE the performance difference with my own eyes.
-Touchscreen problem. It's gone now, yes. But come on! Who tells me this will not resurface after 2 years in a much more severe way?
- Loudness. The phonespeaker blows, when I show someone a song or vid on the phone you can barely hear it. Same problem for in-call volume. No, Volume+ does not really help and it makes sound everything like shiat. I thought the iphone had a bad speaker but now I actually think it was quite good after seeing the lower end of the quality spectrum
-Broken 3D engine and no official fix for it. I need to rely on devs to do their work? Screw you htc
-Camera. Nothing in particular except that it is not as good as I expected and it lacks some features even my old Sony Ericsson k800i had like burst mode etc. Yes you can have it if you install the camera apk from a different htc phone but there usually are compatibility problems. Plus, why can't my phone have a decent camera app of its own? Too much to ask, HTC? Guess their priorities are elsewhere.
- The phone was half-baked to begin with and got patched up to adress the most severe problems rather than being good at launch and "sensational" after updates.
I'm interested in your opinion wheter a future ICS RUU will make things any better. I would sell my Sensation now and probably go for a Samsung. The thing is, I have bought a cover and two extra batteries for it and I'm not looking forward to buying those accessories again, especially because Amazon doesn't ship to my country. And I hear folks say all the time how ICS will make our device shine because of native dualcore support etc. In that case, it might well be worth to wait a little...
The thing is, I just don't believe in it anymore. HTC seems more busy pushing out new models than refining current ones. Hell, since the launch of the first Sensation alone they have thrown 2 additional versions of it in the market, let alone the number of completely new phones released or soon to be released.
I think fragmentation is becoming a major problem with HTC. Look at the leaked 3.3.5 RUU that all the devs build upon, it's been around for forever. But the real thing never saw the light of day and now with ICS out, I think it never will. When HTC has a flagship phone, you can bet they will have a new one in 6 weeks time. The Sensation got replaced by the Sensation XE (Different ROM&Kernel, not just fancy new colours) and the Sensation XE got replaced by the HTC Rezound all in less than 6 months.
HTC announced they will release ICS for Sensation around March. By that time, the Sensation will be a second class phone with quadcores already in the pipeline. The way I know HTC, their first ICS build will be full of crap and bugs. But because they will be busy pushing out new phones, we will have to live with their halfdone work. And by that time, I will prolly get much less for it if sold than I would right now.
What do you think? Sell now or wait and hope/pray for improvement?
Look. If you really dislike the phone that much, sell it now. ICS will change many things; improve some, make some worse. That's just how it goes. Then they'll patch the issues with the next patch etc. But judging from your post, I'd recommend you sell it and get another phone. Just don't touch anything Samsung.
You better sell it if you hate it that much. Why most people buy HTC? Because they can flash anything they whant and make the device better than stock. (same with Samsungs Plastic Devices) I never had any of the prolems you are talking about on my XE with the same Hardware. The Sensation XE is my 4th HTC phone and all of them were great never got any problems (Hardware or Software). And when i read something about benchmark i whant to throw up. What does it help if you have high scores and you device is laggy? If the performance is good i don't care about scores. And like FnH84 said ICS will make much things better but some things worse but we are here at XDA and our devs will make it all perfekt. It only needs some time. Android is a "Hacker phone" (let's call it like this) Out of the Box it's not the best OS but you can modify it in every way you whant and that makes it unique. If you need a phone that works perfekt out of the box you should buy icrap or WP7 on this phones you can do nothing wrong and they are easy to use.
Greez
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Why don't we just gather all the ones that got a "faulty" device and retards that have something against specific brands, me included I truly hate Apple , HTC samgay and all the rest brands and see which phone (brand) gets the most posts ala we hate, it sucks yada yada doo.
1. Sensation build quality is robust and good, I have had 3 units.
2. Sense is not for every one but some intend to like it.
3. HTC is one of the older players (the oldest) on the android market. They know how to create something that wasn't there f.ex dual core support gingerbread.
4. Great screen with great resolution.
5. Screw you I'm going home!
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You are exaggerating things... Practically HTC mobiles are the best out there...
There is still little bit of lag but didn't effect me personally when using as phone...
HTC developers are much better than those Samsung ones... Atleast we have HTC Sense which other brand developers drag their ass to port to their handsets...
I still love it and it's the best for me..
you don't like it then sell it... Bye bye...
Sensation happens to be my best HTC and android phone. I have fewer problems than with MT3G, Nexus1, MT4G. Very pleased overall, just my 2c worth
Sensation happens to be a great phone for me ... much better than the galaxy s II
Feeling lucky ... didnt have any of those issues ...
I somewhat agree with OP, not everything, but certain points.
It did feel half-baked to start with. 2.08 base feels a lot more sleek though, shame they have not finished it, would be nice to have as an option, fully stable option I mean if they (HTC) **** up ICS.
Assuming HTC actually optimise Sense for ICS I can only see the Sensation getting better. Yes it runs now but I've had to make my own ROM for it. Does it bother me? Not in the slightest!! I enjoy it!!
The build quality of HTC handsets is second to none. I've had the HD2, Desire and now the Sensation and they just feel right. A nice bit of weight is reassuring, it means I know it's in my pocket.
OK, the camera isn't as good as other manufacturers but if I was that interested in taking a picture I'd use a camera (shock horror !!!)
End of the day if you're not happy, flog it and get something 'better'. Otherwise, enjoy what you have and look forward to more awesome ROMs from us Devs
What many people like to forget is, that higher display resolution is always a trade off between look and performance.
Of course the Samsung S2, with slightly better Hardware, performs better... It has only 800*480 Pixels to render.
I'm happy with my sensation. Of course it could be better, but there is no device out there that satisfies all my needs. And the sensation is the one that gets closest to that task.
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+1 Sensation..best phone out there, at least for me.
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I really was a HTC fanboy, both software and hardware wise, after seeing their first HTC Desire and later the Desire HD. That made me ditch the iphone and switch to android.
Recently, I am starting to regret having bought the Sensation. Build quality my arse. This phone is full of bugs and disappointments, my biggest issues being:
- Power Button issue (no its NOT software related, at least not with my unit and the "fix" don't work)
- Battery reading and jumping issues. My phone stays way too long on 100% and then takes a dive instead of showing the energy levels correctly. And no matter what it shows, when I restart it the percentage magically jumps up around 15%, only to drop swiftly little later. Yes I did calibrate the battery in Android and yes I did several charge-discharge circles with all my 3 batteries.
- Sluggish Performance. Yes there are "ultra-hyper-mega-omega-smooth" ROMs but it only helps so much, many menus still have an apparent lag when scrolling, most famously the appdrawer (when u install more than just a few apps) and whatsapp when scrolling through chat history.
Also, in Electopia benchmark, the highest I get is 30 FPS, with an AOSP ROM. SGSII users get 49 fps no problem and they don't need to OC their device to 8.7GHz like we do to achieve it. I know benchmarks say nothing but this is a game with nice graphics and I can actually SEE the performance difference with my own eyes.
-Touchscreen problem. It's gone now, yes. But come on! Who tells me this will not resurface after 2 years in a much more severe way?
- Loudness. The phonespeaker blows, when I show someone a song or vid on the phone you can barely hear it. Same problem for in-call volume. No, Volume+ does not really help and it makes sound everything like shiat. I thought the iphone had a bad speaker but now I actually think it was quite good after seeing the lower end of the quality spectrum
-Broken 3D engine and no official fix for it. I need to rely on devs to do their work? Screw you htc
-Camera. Nothing in particular except that it is not as good as I expected and it lacks some features even my old Sony Ericsson k800i had like burst mode etc. Yes you can have it if you install the camera apk from a different htc phone but there usually are compatibility problems. Plus, why can't my phone have a decent camera app of its own? Too much to ask, HTC? Guess their priorities are elsewhere.
- The phone was half-baked to begin with and got patched up to adress the most severe problems rather than being good at launch and "sensational" after updates.
I'm interested in your opinion wheter a future ICS RUU will make things any better. I would sell my Sensation now and probably go for a Samsung. The thing is, I have bought a cover and two extra batteries for it and I'm not looking forward to buying those accessories again, especially because Amazon doesn't ship to my country. And I hear folks say all the time how ICS will make our device shine because of native dualcore support etc. In that case, it might well be worth to wait a little...
The thing is, I just don't believe in it anymore. HTC seems more busy pushing out new models than refining current ones. Hell, since the launch of the first Sensation alone they have thrown 2 additional versions of it in the market, let alone the number of completely new phones released or soon to be released.
I think fragmentation is becoming a major problem with HTC. Look at the leaked 3.3.5 RUU that all the devs build upon, it's been around for forever. But the real thing never saw the light of day and now with ICS out, I think it never will. When HTC has a flagship phone, you can bet they will have a new one in 6 weeks time. The Sensation got replaced by the Sensation XE (Different ROM&Kernel, not just fancy new colours) and the Sensation XE got replaced by the HTC Rezound all in less than 6 months.
HTC announced they will release ICS for Sensation around March. By that time, the Sensation will be a second class phone with quadcores already in the pipeline. The way I know HTC, their first ICS build will be full of crap and bugs. But because they will be busy pushing out new phones, we will have to live with their halfdone work. And by that time, I will prolly get much less for it if sold than I would right now.
What do you think? Sell now or wait and hope/pray for improvement?
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I've never had a problem with power button, battery, touchscreen or 3D engine.
Speaker, I agree with you, could be better and louder.
Camera, what you expected? It is only phone camera. For me picture quality is very good. And I don't need burst mode, it is unimportant feature.
Performance is very good. UI acceleration is disabled by default to save battery life, you can simply enable it.
SGS II has better performance in 3D, but Sensation has 35% more pixels.
Agreed with the OP, but then again like others have said, Better build quality than any other manufacturer, Sense (at least for me), and the ability to flash whatever the **** you want makes me buy HTC phones. Even though I wouldn't mind a S2 right now, but the screen resolution kills me on that, everything is just huge!
im in the same boat like you i loved htc sense and i still love htc sense
but the thing that really put me off from andriod is because the software and hardware limitation
firstly i want to write about my experience with htc hd2 my first htc phone and i loved it because of big screen but the downside was that any rom i installed on it used to drain my battery madly
if i used my phone for a while the battery used to drop like there is no tommorow
and max battery life used to be 2-3 hours but if when i used to leave it on stand by it used to lst 8-9 hours and that was not used and battery used to die so i got so mad with it that i sold it and bought htc senstaion
the thing with sensation was i had more memory higher resoulation and it was capable of recording 1080p at the same time it had a front camera but the bad thing in sesnation is battery life and check my post where my battery lasted 2 hours and i think this is piss taking.
i have a iphone 4 which i borrowed form my cousin for test this week and this phone blew me away because i left wifi on for 1 day and 5 hour while it was on stand by and guess what it only lost 2 percent in the long time where as my senstaion would have died in 7-8 hours
the good thing about iphone was its software and harware work flawless toghether even though i admit when i'm gonna give this back to my cousin i'm gonna say to him its **** because i cant admit its better in hadrware
but software wise its the best phone out there.
bad thing about iphone 4 its heavy like htc senstion and it has very smal screen and i personally hate it this is the only reason i choose htc rather than iphone
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i also did a camera test and iphone was much smmoother and i;m talking about front camera because if i move my camera it laggs bad and does blur where as iphone despite having the same spec camera is much clearer while at the same time it is much better but about the back camera i personally think htc is better and that is my personal choise(i forgot how to write it). in senstaion the front camera is so dark in low light while at the same time iphone is very clear.
personally i think htc and other company should stop brinig phone for a while and rather they should try to perfect the software on our phone because this is really making andriod looking bad
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HTC seems more busy pushing out new models than refining current ones.
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The way I know HTC, their first ICS build will be full of crap and bugs. But because they will be busy pushing out new phones, we will have to live with their halfdone work.
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In this regard, HTC is no worse (and is better than) other Android handset manufacturers. I was an early adopter with the Samsuck Behold 2, which saw only very limited updates. Every company is pushing new models, either because most consumers are spoiled and always want the latest and greatest, or as a side effect they don't need to support phones beyond 1-2 years because carriers subsidize phones when contracts are renewed.
In general, software rarely gets faster when new versions are released, and I doubt that ICS will perform faster than what we have now unless HTC seriously thins out their Sense UI overlay. I also expect that HTC has a common code base between what we'll get on the Sensation and what future phone releases will use, so I doubt what we get will be any worse than new ICS HTC handsets.
8.7ghz dam bro ur phone must be an oven lol
To those who say they have no battery issues:
Does your battery not stick at 100% longer than it should? It stays at 100% even after 30min of intense use and then sharply drops instead of declining i a linear way. Do you not have different battery level values after restarting the phone? Afaik it is a common problem with the Sensation caused by bad drivers. There is even a thread dedicated to this.
And it can not all be blamed on the higher pixel count. Electopia is a 3d game that measures your fps. There is an option to run it at WVGA resolution (800x480), meaning it is rendered in exactly the same resolution as the SGII. The game runs at aprox. 20 fps slower than on the sgII. Now this is not some synthetic benchmark, this is real world performance where the game simply runs smother on the sammy.
I just checked my roommate's SGII performance within whatsapp. He can scroll through the entire chat history in real time, back and forward with no delay. Mine has VISIBLE lag and doesn't respond as well, it stutters alot when scrolling up the list. Don't tell me its because it has to render more pixels, its a messaging program ffs! This happens with EVERY Rom (With or without Sense).
I am surprised no one shares my view on those issues because it's basically a compilation of often here mentioned issues plaguing the Sensation. And I know HTC made some damn fine phones, but the Sensation just doesn't live up to their past standards.
No I don't feel the need to always have the fastest and best thing around. I was evaluating pros and cons between the Sensation and SG2 for 6 whole weeks before ultimately going for the Sensation. I knew the Samsung had better benchmark results and more power but I was like "I don't need a ****ing racing car, a nice sports car will do it just as well". But I simply cannot put up with sluggish menus/scrolling behaviour. Not in 2011 and in the age of dual core processors. See, if only the Sensation was really snappy with my daily tasks, I couldn't care less for benchmarks.
But folks will always say the same things like "it has more pixels to push" or "mine runs super smooth" when in fact it runs the same way as mine and they just don't mind a bit of choppiness.
I HATE the plastic toy phone feel of the Samsung devices, but damn those phones fly. Probably I'm alone with this, but choppy and sluggish menus and scrolling behaviour gives me eye cancer. And it's something I can't live withon such a premium device.
Please keep the "if you don't like it then sell it" comments to your self, they add nothing to the discussion and you are not telling me anything new.
Well I am considering the Galaxy Nexus now, despite not having the most fancy gpu unit available.
Probably I'm alone with this, but choppy and sluggish menus and scrolling behaviour gives me eye cancer.
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Then you need to go to a hospital, stat. Here's the deal, 99% of people who dislike this phone either return it or sell it, and get something they like. They don't go to a dev forum specifically designed for the phone in question and ***** about it.
Point is, if you don't like it, get something else.
Get the motorola atrix, or even the lg g2x and then tell me this phone is buggy.. hahah, the moto atrix even with CM 7 was more laggy than this phone stock. with more ram etc. camera flys past both phones. sure its not better than the amaze but look at the price differance.
I think ICS will make the Sensation a little bit smoother.
That said, I overall don't really like my Sensation. It was an under-spec'd, half-baked phone from release. I really wish my phone upgrade would have been now, because I would have been all over a real performer like the Galaxy Nexus. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with my Sensation for another year and a half or so, and I doubt I'll be able to make it that long.
Having a phone that performs like a toy is worse than having one that feels like a toy. I didn't buy a damn phone just to touch it. I bought it to use it, and there are tons of phones out there that perform better.
Hello sensation community
Currently i am a proud owner of a HTC desire s and i want to upgrade my phone. I am looking for me with a better battery but also a bigger screen and a faster processor. I very much like the build quality from HTC and their unique unibody case. So the sensation is on my list. Would you recommend this phone to me?
I have also some questions
Is it easy to s-off, root the phone and to apply custom roms?
How long last the battery with medium/heavy usage (heavely whatsapp/sms?
And do you guys think i can play upcoming android games?
I would really appreciate some answers
Thanks in advice
- Jahai
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I have HTC Sensation. It was very easy to S-OFF it and install custom ROMs. Usually I charge it every evening, but after overnight charge it can hold 2 days if used very slightly. Havy usage will kill it during one day for sure There are also batteries with extended capacity, like Anker, available.
Considering performance, I think this phone has a great potential that will be unleashed with ICS.
Jahai said:
Hello sensation community
Currently i am a proud owner of a HTC desire s and i want to upgrade my phone. I am looking for me with a better battery but also a bigger screen and a faster processor. I very much like the build quality from HTC and their unique unibody case. So the sensation is on my list. Would you recommend this phone to me?
I have also some questions
Is it easy to s-off, root the phone and to apply custom roms?
How long last the battery with medium/heavy usage (heavely whatsapp/sms?
And do you guys think i can play upcoming android games?
I would really appreciate some answers
Thanks in advice
- Jahai
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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The development is getting much better in here ics is fully working only need to charge at might with a day of heavy usage, double that with moderate, everything with regards to custom roms is simple,
However the desire s is a Good phone, wait a little while there's a few new phones round the corner ike the htc ville or the sg3
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Jahai said:
Hello sensation community
Currently i am a proud owner of a HTC desire s and i want to upgrade my phone. I am looking for me with a better battery but also a bigger screen and a faster processor. I very much like the build quality from HTC and their unique unibody case. So the sensation is on my list. Would you recommend this phone to me?
I have also some questions
Is it easy to s-off, root the phone and to apply custom roms?
How long last the battery with medium/heavy usage (heavely whatsapp/sms?
And do you guys think i can play upcoming android games?
I would really appreciate some answers
Thanks in advice
- Jahai
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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hey, I've owned the HTC Sensation z710e since launch and I can tell you I'd actually advise NOT to get it. It's branded as a fast phone but truth be told it really isn't. When I've asked about the speed compared to sgs2 they say sense slows it down so i used an aosp rom, still slower, until i overclocked till 1.7ghz, it was just a bit better. The phone has over-heating issues, the bottom of the screen and back cover get extremely hot after about 10-20 mins use. There is also a rather pathetic death grip issue, at the top AND bottom of the phone. I'd go for a samsung phone, deffinately. Apart from these three rather annoying facts, it's extremely easy to root and run roms.
sensation lover said:
hey, I've owned the HTC Sensation z710e since launch and I can tell you I'd actually advise NOT to get it. It's branded as a fast phone but truth be told it really isn't. When I've asked about the speed compared to sgs2 they say sense slows it down so i used an aosp rom, still slower, until i overclocked till 1.7ghz, it was just a bit better. The phone has over-heating issues, the bottom of the screen and back cover get extremely hot after about 10-20 mins use. There is also a rather pathetic death grip issue, at the top AND bottom of the phone. I'd go for a samsung phone, deffinately. Apart from these three rather annoying facts, it's extremely easy to root and run roms.
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Don't wanna make this into an argument but I don't have any of these issues and with ICS the phone is buttery smooth handles 3D games easily like gta and need for speed, out if the box its pants, it doesn't get over heated bit it will at 1.7 the death grip is there but only if you put your whole hand over the back of the phone
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I'd have to agree with whynot66, also note that a lot of the complaints/problems about the sensation (ie. dust problems, overheating) are coming out of a very vocal/unlucky minority. After all, users with no problems don't post "HEY I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH MY PHONE!" threads.
Personally, my phone runs super smooth and with ICS I get 60 hours battery life on one overnight charge and medium usage.
I would recommend adopting a wait and see approach though, since the next generation is about to be unveiled.
Side note, isn't it crazy that a generation of phones only lasts for a year tops? And I used to think console generations are short...
MoodyTunic said:
I'd have to agree with whynot66, also note that a lot of the complaints/problems about the sensation (ie. dust problems, overheating) are coming out of a very vocal/unlucky minority. After all, users with no problems don't post "HEY I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH MY PHONE!" threads.
Personally, my phone runs super smooth and with ICS I get 60 hours battery life on one overnight charge and medium usage.
I would recommend adopting a wait and see approach though, since the next generation is about to be unveiled.
Side note, isn't it crazy that a generation of phones only lasts for a year tops? And I used to think console generations are short...
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+ 1 that I bought the xe when it came out didn't know it was just an overclocked sensation till I got it only had it about 6 months and I'm thinking about quad cores lol, console generations are slow in comparison the ps4 will have to be something special tho
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Draw back to having the latest phone is that you will be stuck with stock ROM from HTC, development only happens for popular phones and the rate of new models mean no-one spends time learning to code for them.
Look at the HD2, well past it's use date and still going strong because of the huge and expert user base, they've performed miracles with it. I was surprised when I moved from HD2 to Sensation that so little coding has been done for it, no offence to devs, but AOSP is still a while off yet and all the ICS releases are tweaks of a stock ROM leak.
I hope the release rate of new phones slows, otherwise the userbase gets more and more fragmented. Looking at HTC's drop in sales I think they must be realising that cutting edge hardware on it's own itsn't enough, it needs excellent software to shine.
Next time I buy a new phone I'm first gonna check which phone the best devs are buying, then follow them.
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The development is getting much better in here ics is fully working only need to charge at might with a day of heavy usage, double that with moderate, everything with regards to custom roms is simple,
However the desire s is a Good phone, wait a little while there's a few new phones round the corner ike the htc ville or the sg3
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That sounds very good. With my Desire S I'm already used to charge it every night so that isnt a problem. But with my current phone i can't always have mobile data on, for whatsapp, facebook, etc. I would really appreciate it if i could have allways mobile data on and use it for textings, no much downloading or surfing, just texting
And do you guys can give some information about battery life? Pls with the screen on time otherwise it would been senseless
Buying another battery like the 1900mah anker isn' a problem either
I don't want to buy these phones cause as mentioned already the developement isnt really big, it's at the beginning of the growning then. Otherwise will these phones be at high prices :/ maybe 450-600€ (europe).
I've heard that the developement on the sensation is very far progressed, is it right?
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hey, I've owned the HTC Sensation z710e since launch and I can tell you I'd actually advise NOT to get it. It's branded as a fast phone but truth be told it really isn't. When I've asked about the speed compared to sgs2 they say sense slows it down so i used an aosp rom, still slower, until i overclocked till 1.7ghz, it was just a bit better. The phone has over-heating issues, the bottom of the screen and back cover get extremely hot after about 10-20 mins use. There is also a rather pathetic death grip issue, at the top AND bottom of the phone. I'd go for a samsung phone, deffinately. Apart from these three rather annoying facts, it's extremely easy to root and run roms.
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At the moment I'm using my Desire S with a optimized Sense 3 Rom and it is 75% smooth and thats with a 1GH singlecore processor. So i think the 1,2GH Dualcore processor of the Sensation will be satisfying my needs for speed and smoothness
Besides that I'm to this "overheating" and the death grip. In my opinion its pretty normal for a aluminium-uniboy-phone
I wouldn't go for Samsung as I don't like the plastic case. I don't care if it is high quality plastic or not, I simply don't like that as much as the aluminium unibody from HTC. And I really like HTC Sense, also don't care if it slow downs the phone, I really like the options on Sense and how it is user friendly + the looks so Samsung isn't really an option for me.
A short information, on my current phone, the Desire S, I have to get S-Off (simply with the revolutionary tool, very easy), then install a custom recovery like cwm or 4ext (adb push or as PG88IMG.zip per bootloader, easy too) and then can flash a zip for superuser/root or custom roms.
So I am already used to adb/fastboot commands and can use these as well as update zips within the bootloader. Is it the same on the Sensation or are there any other steps to do?
I have had mine for a week or two. I do not have death grip issue or any of the issues some report to have. I recommend this phone. I absoluty love it. It is not as fast as my g2x but it also doesn't have all the bugs my g2x has. This phone looks great runs great and I do not regret purchasing it.
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Jahai said:
That sounds very good. With my Desire S I'm already used to charge it every night so that isnt a problem. But with my current phone i can't always have mobile data on, for whatsapp, facebook, etc. I would really appreciate it if i could have allways mobile data on and use it for textings, no much downloading or surfing, just texting
And do you guys can give some information about battery life? Pls with the screen on time otherwise it would been senseless
Buying another battery like the 1900mah anker isn' a problem either
I don't want to buy these phones cause as mentioned already the developement isnt really big, it's at the beginning of the growning then. Otherwise will these phones be at high prices :/ maybe 450-600€ (europe).
I've heard that the developement on the sensation is very far progressed, is it right?
At the moment I'm using my Desire S with a optimized Sense 3 Rom and it is 75% smooth and thats with a 1GH singlecore processor. So i think the 1,2GH Dualcore processor of the Sensation will be satisfying my needs for speed and smoothness
Besides that I'm to this "overheating" and the death grip. In my opinion its pretty normal for a aluminium-uniboy-phone
I wouldn't go for Samsung as I don't like the plastic case. I don't care if it is high quality plastic or not, I simply don't like that as much as the aluminium unibody from HTC. And I really like HTC Sense, also don't care if it slow downs the phone, I really like the options on Sense and how it is user friendly + the looks so Samsung isn't really an option for me.
A short information, on my current phone, the Desire S, I have to get S-Off (simply with the revolutionary tool, very easy), then install a custom recovery like cwm or 4ext (adb push or as PG88IMG.zip per bootloader, easy too) and then can flash a zip for superuser/root or custom roms.
So I am already used to adb/fastboot commands and can use these as well as update zips within the bootloader. Is it the same on the Sensation or are there any other steps to do?
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I am with you, I absolutely love sense!. I have held and played with samsung phones especially the GS2 and plastic doesn't feel anything like aluminum and SGS2 just looks ugly. SGS2 is a great device except for its choice of materials and design, I would have bought one if it wasn't too ugly. Sensation is a nice phone and except for the dust under the screen problem that I have, it is absolutely amazing. But since it is 2012 and quad core phones are coming, I suggest you wait for htc Edge or anything that is quad core.
1.5 dual core is the true measure the development is steadily growing. I have mobile data always on and/or wifi. We're running sense 3.6 leak. But htc will be releasing ics officially soon with sense 4.0 once that is released it will be even better. There is some exceptionally skilled devs around here too
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brusko1972 said:
I am with you, I absolutely love sense!. I have held and played with samsung phones especially the GS2 and plastic doesn't feel anything like aluminum and SGS2 just looks ugly. SGS2 is a great device except for its choice of materials and design, I would have bought one if it wasn't too ugly. Sensation is a nice phone and except for the dust under the screen problem that I have, it is absolutely amazing. But since it is 2012 and quad core phones are coming, I suggest you wait for htc Edge or anything that is quad core.
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Thats are exactly my thoughts except the part with the waiting
i don't need a quadcore and i can't see where a quadcore could improve something. the most apps on the market are for singlecores and dont take any advantage from more cores. even the dualcore isnt really used, its still useful especially for sense but i didnt see the point in using quadcores. its the same as the ram. for what do you need, let me say 2gb ram, if all the time 1,4gb are free? if you use a device with 768mb of ram and you only use 500mb it isnt a advantage for you to have 2gb of ram. its useless, and in my opinion its the same qith the amount of cores of the processor. we shouldnt move to quadcores if we dont optimized the dualcore to the max.
as always just my thoughts
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And do you guys can give some information about battery life? Pls with the screen on time otherwise it would been senseless
Buying another battery like the 1900mah anker isn' a problem either
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Battery life for me, with the Anker 1900, is between 24 to 36hrs with phone, data, wifi and sync on all the time - that's with 5 to 6hrs of the screen being on.
For the S-off, root and CWM the sensation is pretty similar, there are several sticky threads you need to read.
Yes it is easy to S-off, root and flash custom ROMs and I havn't had any real issues with it. However, I had a Desire S before my Sensation and I wouldn't say that it was a very big jump between the 2, I agree with a few others on here that you are better off waiting until something else comes along that is worth the extra outlay for a more significant upgrade.
With regards to battery life I have found it to be similar to the Desire S, although the Sensation has a bigger battery it also uses more power so I get a similar amount of life out of it, less than a day at my reasonable heavy usage level.
Something to note, the asmp design of our dualcore Snapdragon is definitely not optimized for performance, and the supposedly powerful Adreno 220 gpu is either overrated or htc just gave us crappy drivers for it.
So like someone said above me, the real world difference between Desire and Sensation will probably not be huge. The Sensation is a good phone, but if you want raw power for gaming, you might want to wait and see what comes down the pipeline.
I also wouldnt go for the Sensation now. The step from Desire S to the Sensa just isnt big enough to justify investing the money. Just wait for a month or two and get the latest model than....which most likely wont be much more expensive then the Sensa XE is now.
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I also wouldnt go for the Sensation now. The step from Desire S to the Sensa just isnt big enough to justify investing the money. Just wait for a month or two and get the latest model than....which most likely wont be much more expensive then the Sensa XE is now.
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but the sensation xe is on a price level were i wouldnt even considering it.
the sensation is now on a price were i really think about upgrading, the screensize of my desire s does really annoying me with the time, its simply to small.. i've looked in shops and tried different phones with different sizes. and 4,3inch fits perfectly for me, 4,65 or even 5,3 is just too big were 4 is a bit too small
I'd say wait too, more so since you're already coming from a good phone.
Hopefully, MWC will push prices of older phones down a little and let you see what new stuff there is too.