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Hey everyone,
I'm considering a wifi only tablet for my birthday (April 23rd), and naturally the now popularized Motorola Xoom popped into my head as a first choice. The question is, is it already being trumped? I've heard of numerous other Honeycomb tablets coming out that have equally (if not exceedingly) impressive specs and similar pricetags, such as the Acer Iconia and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
All in all, I want to know, what makes the Xoom worth it (if it is worth it)? Why have people been eating up this tablet in lieu of other impressive competitors around the corner?
I've never owned a Motorola product before, so if someone could elaborate on the quality of their products, I suppose that would help in deciding as well!
Thanks for your input in advance.
EDIT: Please, no one suggest the iPad; if I had any questions concerning that toy, I could just walk into the nearest coffee shop.
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I agree, sure there will be better ones that come out and they probably will be cheaper. But the xoom is here now. Even if I knew the samsung was going to be just as good and half the price I would not wait 3 months with no tablet to save the money. I guess it depends on your financial situation but frankly if you are worried about your finances you probably should not get any tablet as it not something really anyone "needs". But even though I don't need it, if I lost mine I would buy a new one the same day to replace it. It depends on what makes you happy, the xoom makes me happy so its a easy decision for me, regardless of how others may think of it.
Every day I have it it just gets more and more useful and enjoyable for me. When netflix hits its going to better, when more tablet apps hit its going to be better, when os updates come out its going to be better, the future is still pretty bright for the xoom even though new tablets are coming.
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Good thing is you have choices! LG Moto Samsung. I personally wouldn't trust LG or Acer. There is no telling when or if you would receive updates and accessories. Motorola and Samsung would be my front runners. The Xoom is here now and you can read through the forums to gage how well people like it. Samsung is a little ways away but cheaper with similiar specs. I can't wait so its Xoom here.
Do your research and weigh the pros and cons of each device. Decide what features you find more important and make your decision based on that information. We could tell you all day long which device we would buy but its all about personal preference. You gotta carry thing around for 6-12 months not us.
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I would go to a best buy and play with the xoom for a while. get a good feel for the hardware and see if you like the size of the device. You mmay find it too big or heavy. From what I hear about the Samsung galaxy 8.9, it may be the one to get in a few months. The LG to me is priced too high and wouldn't dare think about getting a tablet on contract. Acer and some of the others have been unproven and will have to prove something if I'm going to chose them over the competition that has built a good reputation with android over the last few years.
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no point in waiting. By the time Samsung gets here, there will be another even more impressive tablet coming.
It is similar with me and when the Nikon D300s came out. I was puzzle on should I get D300s or wait for D400 or maybe something else.
Look at this way, I got the Nikon D300s...was able to play with it and took all those great pictures with it, that I would not have been able to during that period of me waiting.
So, either buy the Xoom now and enjoy having the use of it...or wait until price drop and think back of all those days you've lost not having the fun of having it. What makes it worst to wait, the minute you buy it...it either get discontinued or replace with something better. Technology waits for no one. Get it while it is hot.
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gubiguy said:
Hey everyone,
I'm considering a wifi only tablet for my birthday (April 23rd), and naturally the now popularized Motorola Xoom popped into my head as a first choice. The question is, is it already being trumped? I've heard of numerous other Honeycomb tablets coming out that have equally (if not exceedingly) impressive specs and similar pricetags, such as the Acer Iconia and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
All in all, I want to know, what makes the Xoom worth it (if it is worth it)? Why have people been eating up this tablet in lieu of other impressive competitors around the corner?
I've never owned a Motorola product before, so if someone could elaborate on the quality of their products, I suppose that would help in deciding as well!
Thanks for your input in advance.
EDIT: Please, no one suggest the iPad; if I had any questions concerning that toy, I could just walk into the nearest coffee shop.
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From what I have read I would say that the xoom still has the better specs. Maybe I am missing something but the pricing is similar, run the same processor and ram, same screen Res and size (although I am sure samsungs screen is more vivid), and both have micro ad slots. The xoom however has 3g (upgradeable to lte 4g which is worth the price of admission right there if you ask me), is unlockeable and most of all isn't running a horrible skin like touchwiz. I can guarentee the developer support will be greater for the xoom than any of the Samsung tabs. The only spec I see that is slightly bwtter than the xoom is the screen and the 8.9 should cost a little less and have a little better pixel debsity. Oh and the Samsung tabs are a little lighter but that is a complete non issue to me. If you want a Tablet that will.never get upgrades and run a horrible laggy, cartoony, iphoney screen then get Samsung. I still think the xoom is by far the better Tablet and won't be trumped until quad core kilel (did I spell that right?) Processors are released.
I have had the xoom since release and I actually pay to have data plan so I can't comment on wifi only (and who can it's not out but from what I have seen it is the exact same just missing support 3g/4g chip. I personally want/need 4g so I purchased put right, but for most wifi will work fine. You can always go.month to month and the extra 200 to me was much worth knowing that one day Verizon lte will be powering this beast making it all the more better than the competition. The android tablet world is just starting and I really think that the xoom is the Nexus one of tablets and that is one of the main reasons I purchased it and after Sammy announced their lineup with touchwiz on board I think this (and LG) will be some of the only stock vanilla honeycomb tablets the market will ever see especially where iit is fully inlockeable. I would suggest the xoom to anyone and the 599 price point is perfect. Let me know if you have any questions and good luck in your future decision. Hope this helps even a little bit
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Samsung is a little ways away but cheaper with similiar specs. I can't wait so its Xoom here.
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Agree with everything you said, except: the Galaxy Tab 10.1 32GB wifi-only will be $599, just like the Xoom. So pricing is actually identical. The existence of a $499 16GB Galaxy Tab 10.1 might be attractive to some folks, but it won't of course be the same thing.
And I know Samsung did a really good job of going back and redesigning the Galaxy Tab given the iPad 2's strengths. But what did they cut to make the thing so much thinner, lighter and, as they implied in their statements, cheaper?
I think from what I see, the two factors that get me interested in Galaxy are
1) The much brighter and vibrant screen
2) lighter than xoom
But knowing Samsung and their support level or lack there of...Xoom might be a better choice....
I personally don't care for touchwiz, and the molasses pace that Samsung produces updates is criminal. Buying a device with an OS as new as Honeycomb from a manufacturer with a proven record of bad post-production software support seems like a bad idea to me.
Also, last I checked the 10.1V (teh stock android 3.0 version) does not have microSD
I will reiterate what another use stated, head down to Best Buy and get your hands on the XOOM to get a feel for the size and weight. I've done this a few times and the more I do the more I like it. Initially it feels a little heavy but you get used to it.
The XOOM is here now, the price will be similar to other 10" Honeycomb devices coming out and many of the coming devices will have custom overlays. (TouchWiz) I'd rather have the XOOM as it's a Google Experience device and will likely be the first device to get updates.
I think touch wiz should be least of concern. I think they confirmed that 10.1 will go live w/o touch wiz and it is an optional add on patch if you chose to.
Beside, touch wiz or not, root and replace with other launcher if dont like it.
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I think touch wiz should be least of concern. I think they confirmed that 10.1 will go live w/o touch wiz and it is an optional add on patch if you chose to.
Beside, touch wiz or not, root and replace with other launcher if dont like it.
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I completely disagree, especially on such a new OS that will be receiving frequent, important updates.
The 10.1V will be stock android (this is the fatter version with the better camera and no SD card)
The super slim 8.9 and 10.1 will be touchwiz 4.0
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I completely disagree, especially on such a new OS that will be receiving frequent, important updates.
The 10.1V will be stock android (this is the fatter version with the better camera and no SD card)
The super slim 8.9 and 10.1 will be touchwiz 4.0
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Didn't know there were 3 versions. In the slashgear you tube i saw, they only show two versions.
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Didn't know there were 3 versions. In the slashgear you tube i saw, they only show two versions.
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the 10.1v was the one that came out at MWC before Samsung did a big re-design to make it thinner and smoother.
Then they released the new 10.1 and 8.9 as the "US Versions" at CTIA a few days ago.
It should be said that we really don't know which models or if any will be coming with TouchWiz4.0 on them. We have a whole 2 months before the new 10.1 even comes out. A lot can change in that time, and as far as Google is concerned you're not allowed to change Honeycomb's UI, so we'll have to see as that pans out.
Guys, I just wanted to mention that LG is apparently creating a nexus/purely Google tablet - slated to be the *real* "Nexus One" of tablets and receive the according amount of updates... the question is , how reputable is LGs hardware? Truthfully, because the Xoom and the Nexus tab will both run AOSP honeycomb, I doubt updates will come slower to the Xoom from the dev community or the manufacturer.
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gubiguy said:
Hey everyone,
I'm considering a wifi only tablet for my birthday (April 23rd), and naturally the now popularized Motorola Xoom popped into my head as a first choice. The question is, is it already being trumped? I've heard of numerous other Honeycomb tablets coming out that have equally (if not exceedingly) impressive specs and similar pricetags, such as the Acer Iconia and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
All in all, I want to know, what makes the Xoom worth it (if it is worth it)? Why have people been eating up this tablet in lieu of other impressive competitors around the corner?
I've never owned a Motorola product before, so if someone could elaborate on the quality of their products, I suppose that would help in deciding as well!
Thanks for your input in advance.
EDIT: Please, no one suggest the iPad; if I had any questions concerning that toy, I could just walk into the nearest coffee shop.
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I have nothing to add, but we have the same birthday.
wolverine423 said:
I have nothing to add, but we have the same birthday.
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Get a tablet on the 23rd as well
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If you play the waiting game, you'll be waiting forever.
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Is it worth buying now or just wait for Xoom 2 or I should buy Galaxy Tab 10.1?
I have iPad 1 ,but I don't like it ,it not very productivity just game. I am now considering buying an Android Tablet.
Should I buy Xoom or Galaxy Tab 10.1? I also like to flash new ROM. Which one have more custom ROM?
Good question. My two cents...
Presumably, Google will release the source code for Honeycomb sometime soon after the release of Icecream Sandwich. It's also a (I believe widely accepted) presumption that a new model Xoom will be released soon, especially with the Christmas season approaching.
Not that Google and Motorola should really ever be expected to have their **** together enough to coordinate this correctly, from a marketing stand point it makes the most sense. It would make sense that the new Xoom would have the new OS in it.
However, two great things will happen if that's all true; three price of the Xoom 1 will drop considerably (it already has dropped pretty far), and new Honeycomb ROMs will be popping up with far better customizable interfaces and capabilities than Icecream Samich!
This is all speculation on my part, and I may be completely ignorant of some key facts, but it's the reason why I have no interest in a new tablet or Icecream Sandwich.
My last experience with this sort of thing was when I was loading my Droid 1. Even though updates were open source (TRUE O.S.), and always highly anticipated, they never really contained anything so mind blowing that I ever felt it was worth jumping to a new custom made ROM that had it.
My advice is to get a Xoom now, or just when the new one hits the market. I'm no expert and would love tosee what other members say.
Yes...I bought mine three weeks ago.
But then again I wanted a solid tab experience and the Galaxy didnt cut it for me.
Build quality is better on the Xoom IMO - and I was lucky to snag a new one at $449.
A few things that I like about the Xoom:
- Screen quality is great on my unit - even though its an AUO.
- Sound quality is the best of any tablet. Im assuming you are using this device for media consumption and you wont be disappointed with the speaker layout or sound.
- Build quality is top notch. No Flex. Gorilla Glass.
- My unit is Wifi only (I have a tether plan if needed) and the battery life even on Stock ROM and Kernel is fantastic (rooted).
- For business use I like this tablet a lot. I can have clients sign .pdf's with ease and handle Office docs easily with QuickOffice and Repligo (Worth the $20 for a business professional)
There will always be something better because of the push to create with Android. Do yourself a favor and buy this now (if you play with it and like it of course) and if you need to upgrade in a year or so then do so.
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Yes...I bought mine three weeks ago.
But then again I wanted a solid tab experience and the Galaxy didnt cut it for me.
Build quality is better on the Xoom IMO - and I was lucky to snag a new one at $449.
A few things that I like about the Xoom:
- Screen quality is great on my unit - even though its an AUO.
- Sound quality is the best of any tablet. Im assuming you are using this device for media consumption and you wont be disappointed with the speaker layout or sound.
- Build quality is top notch. No Flex. Gorilla Glass.
- My unit is Wifi only (I have a tether plan if needed) and the battery life even on Stock ROM and Kernel is fantastic (rooted).
- For business use I like this tablet a lot. I can have clients sign .pdf's with ease and handle Office docs easily with QuickOffice and Repligo (Worth the $20 for a business professional)
There will always be something better because of the push to create with Android. Do yourself a favor and buy this now (if you play with it and like it of course) and if you need to upgrade in a year or so then do so.
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I echo those sentiments.
i agree too, i bought mine even after i found out that motorola is preparing a quad core tab for release soon, but if i kept waiting for the latest then i will never end up buying anything, and i understand that every open source tablet with android is supported with updates for 18 months maybe ? i remember i read that somewhere, so motorola and google now as one company will support updates for us till october 2012 so i am pretty sure we will also get ICS
I just put my TP on e-bay. Now my TP had a OC 1.7 dual core with a gig of ram and a great GPU and IMO the best speaker system you could want. Once honeycomb gets put on it it will rock and be one of the best tabs there are right now IMO.
But i still sold it. I need HDMI out, SD card reader and the accessory support. I got a wifi only xoom for 310 shipped on ebay.
So really its up to you lol
I bought my xoom 3g second hand for 275. Loving it. But if price wasn't an issue, I might have gone with a galaxy tab 10.1 because it is a lot lighter which I think is important for a device you are going to be hold up to read a lot. Samsung manufactures excellent screens as well.
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I bought my xoom 3g second hand for 275. Loving it. But if price wasn't an issue, I might have gone with a galaxy tab 10.1 because it is a lot lighter which I think is important for a device you are going to be hold up to read a lot. Samsung manufactures excellent screens as well.
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Xoom is better imho...you got a fantastic deal. Enjoy it and don't look back.
The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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Its funny u say that, ur like my girl, all apple. But I do catch her on my xoom!. Like the iPhone, most of them are girls.
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The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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I couldn't disagree more. There's nothing juvenile about the Xoom or android. The Xoom is for people who enjoy making the tablet their own. But YMMV.
3devious said:
The XOOM is so lame I would say get an iPad2, there still isn't a better tablet in terms of pure processing power. The productivity apps are more robust than anything on Android. OpenOffice, QuickOffice and the like just fall short for anyone who is serious about getting work done. Android is still too juvenile at this stage. IPS isn't much better but if you're determined to make that mistake, the iPad 2 is the smartest way to do such a dumb thing. It's more expensive than a XOOM but costs less than the ASIA EEE Slate (the Win7 one) or the Lenovo Thinkpad X220. Those are powerful tablet like machines that are great for the enterprise.
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Sorry man, the iPad is really good at many things and really bad at many things. Most importantly though, the iPad is the dumbest way to do a smart thing (usually, there are exceptions). If you are truly smart, you don't need preschool level hand holding, or ridiculous restrictions, to get things done.
Android is far more likely to be used by smart people than an iPad. Sorry but it's true. This doesn't mean there are no smart people using iPads, it simply means there are more dumb people using iPads than there are dumb people using Xooms(or other Android tablets). I say this because it's simple logistics. If you are dumb and you are looking at tablets, the only guidance you are likely to get is to buy an iPad. Just go into most retail outlets and watch what they push on the inexperienced.
Also, I agree that the best tablets will be the tablets that run a full OS. However, we are at least 10-12 months away from Windows 8. I wouldn't recommend a Windows tablet until Windows 8 is released.
Having said all this, I don't really like to call people dumb. Less experienced is a more appropriate description most of the time. There are, however, some people who really are just dumb.
I have had the iPad, several crappy and cheap Android tablets, The Nook Color, Acer Iconia A500, HP Touchpad, and (as of yesterday) the Motorola Xoom.
I chose the Xoom because I think it will receive the most love from Google in the future. This is for obvious reasons. I also chose the Xoom because it has accessory and dock options, expandable memory slot, and HDMI out without any proprietary adapters. I have just started to mess with this device but I do like the feel of it and it seems to be very well built.
My initial impression, in comparison to the Iconia, is that the performance is much smoother. One of the things about the Iconia was that the stock rom was very laggy at times. I haven't noticed this with the Xoom yet. Also, there isn't any add-on crap on the Xoom either. I prefer mostly stock Android, and the Iconia had a couple (in my opinion stupid) enhancements. This may explain the difference in performance. The only cool thing, I will miss, on the Iconia is the full size USB port.
I look forward to seeing what I can do with this device. It should work well with my SGS II.
Yea..im gonna wait until after Christmas and grab me a Xoom. mainly cause i don't have the money now lol. Or else i'd grab one now. But im happy playing with my Flashed GTab for the moment.
Don't know why i NEED a Xoom. Maybe the sexiness of it. Im not a Flasher. (Mine was already flashed when i got it). So Xoom already having 3.1 and upgradeable over the air right? Should be good enough for me.
Is 370$ good price for the xoom?
I will study in college soon and i am wondering if the xoom will suit me?
romdroid. said:
Is 370$ good price for the xoom?
I will study in college soon and i am wondering if the xoom will suit me?
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It's quite a good price. I think it should suit you fine.
Don't misunderstand. I recommended the iPad 2 for business solely because of the raw power of the cpu and the gpu. When combined with the robustness of the productivity software, it's a smarter choice for business for the money.
This isn't an emotional choice. If I had what I wanted, it would be something as powerful as the A9 processor with that gpu running win8.
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I recommend it. I love my Xoom and cannot imagine a life without it.
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Is it worth buying now? Absolutely
Will the price be lower in a month or 2? Absolutely
Will something better be released in 4-6 months? Absolutely
how much is the retail price in the us? there is a dude in ebay who wants 400$ for it but i think its pretty much because its the retail price in US..to bad i cant get hold of one here in sweden..
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how much is the retail price in the us? there is a dude in ebay who wants 400$ for it but i think its pretty much because its the retail price in US..to bad i cant get hold of one here in sweden..
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It is 399 for refurbished here. 499 is typical otherwise.
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I Would like some advice on purchasing a tablet, I have trouble making decisions and I have bought and returned about 6 tablets including Archos 80 G9 Turbo, Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 Plus, Hp Touchpad, iPad 2, Asus Transformer Pad 300, yes I know I can't decide! I have decided I want either a 7 or 8 inch tablet though. I would prefer one with dual core processor mainly because I feel like anything less than that lags too much for me. I also want the tablet I purchase to have good development community support(unlike Archos).
So help me decide on a tab and make suggestions and I will answer back to anyone!
Thanks!
Wow! You have been busy "test driving". As you see in my sig I have a few tabs. Each has its good points and less than in areas. I've come to believe there is no "One All-Around BEST Tab". Just the one that suits the users and what they do. My Daily Driver is the GTab 7.7. Mostly due to screen size, speed and scree definition. That said, the others are enjoyable to "take out for a spin" at times also.
Don't set your "bar" too high otherwise you'll never get a tab. Dev support "should" explode once ICS goes mainstream. It's take A LOT of time to dev a device and many of the current hot items are still on HC. No reason to waste time dev on HC when ICS is on the horizon.
One caveat...once/if you decide on a tab.....and "newer shiny" version will be out soon...lol.....it is what it is.
HTH
Yeah I definitely agree with you. I would love to get the sg 7.7 but it is too expensive for me and I don't want a data plan. I forgot to mention I'm currently testing a kindle fire haha This one has surprised me, most likely because my expectations were low. I just want something I can carry places without feeling like its as big as my laptop but something reliable.
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Yeah I definitely agree with you. I would love to get the sg 7.7 but it is too expensive for me and I don't want a data plan. I forgot to mention I'm currently testing a kindle fire haha This one has surprised me, most likely because my expectations were low. I just want something I can carry places without feeling like its as big as my laptop but something reliable.
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Yeah the 7.7 is pricey no more than the outrageous prices Apple gets for their "treasures". No doubt. I got mine for $649 US from Malaysia. Unlocked 3G.
Yeah you're right. Anyone else opinions?
I can not imagine anyone not being happy with the tab 7.0 plus; if they buy it for less than $300, and they are o.k. with "HoneyComb", stock! If one wants ICS, then the tab 2 7" is hard to beat for the money ($250) if you can get by with 8 gigs internal ram (or do not mind rooting). Personally, I plan to buy a 7 plus IF it gets ICS in the next couple of weeks, and return my tab 2. 16 gigs of internal I can live with; 8 gigs I am not so sure, but if no ICS for the tab 7 plus, then I will stick with the tab 2 (rooted) for now.
Good luck in your search
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I was happy with the 7 plus but I just felt like the Touchwiz holds it back from its true potential. I also didn't like how it didn't have much dev support but I guess that's because of it being on honeycomb still. Do you think the dev support will improve once it receives ics?
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I was happy with the 7 plus but I just felt like the Touchwiz holds it back from its true potential. I also didn't like how it didn't have much dev support but I guess that's because of it being on honeycomb still. Do you think the dev support will improve once it receives ics?
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sure it will)ics is way better than HC
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I have both the P6800 and the P6200 (7 plus and 7.7). Both the 3G model.
I still can't make up my mind which one i like more LOL.
The P6800 is absolutely fantastic in terms of screen quality and resolution. It is ultra thing and a pleasure to hold. The problem for me is that the extra 0.7 inch they added making it quite wider than the 7plus and it doesn't fit to all pockets anymore.
The P6200 is also great and is more compact to hold. The lower resolution is a downer but it is more responsive with HC on it than the 7.7.
So...i still can't make up my mind which one is more convenient for daily use on the go. I am spoiled and i know it
The lack of development for the GT7+ is being due to Sammy not releasing the source of some drivers, more specifically the wifi. There are a few smart devs that would like to dedicate some time to it but with some of the puzzle pieces missing there's not much they can do. The GT7+ 3G is an incredible machine as it is, too bad it did not have the widespread distribution it deserved in the US market. I still think its the best of the crop.
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I would love to get the 7.7 haha. That's like a dream though so I'm shutting that idea Down. But I hear what you guys are saying. Any other suggestions for a tab similar and why from either one of you?
Also, just curious if either one of you 7.7 owners have run antutu or sunspider on it? Would love if you'd share what it got!
Hey there guys
I'm confused if i should opt for this tab
i heard many games appear blurry, apps looked stretched?So thats kinda bad, that apps cant make use of the 1080p so should i get this tab?
You should have placed this thread elsewhere
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You should have placed this thread elsewhere
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Yes i posted here by mistake , i opened two tabs one of this and Q & A thought this was q & A
sorry
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Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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Go get your hands on one at Best Buy and check it out.
Don't forget to compare it with other tabs while you're there. The infinity is notorious for being slow.
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I can't try any tablets out, cause they din't release in India still now,nexus 7 might come out next month,,,but might be overpriced here :/
Actually i'm asking my uncle whose in USA to get this for me, and only Asus tablets have international warranty
If nexus 7 comes out with 32 gigs ill get that then.
The newest tablets I can compare for you is this and the GNote 10.1
GNote 10.1 runs faster and the s-pen is great
TF700 is a bit laggier but amazing res and yes, a lot of apps aren't that great for 1080p
But we know apps will be
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Lets ignore the higher than average build quality issues, since you can just pick a place that will let you return many times until you get one without visual hardware flaws. (make sure you do that.. pick a place with a good return policy)
I am seriously disappointed in this tablet. (it's my second one) It's really slow and really choppy. I would NOT spend my own money on this device. But that's your decision to make. I shouldn't have to unlock and void my warranty to make my tablet work at an "almost" acceptable level. Running Cleanrom 1.0 makes the tablet way better, but still nowhere near the level an expensive device should be at. I'll try Cleanrom 2.1 tonight.
When I say really slow and choppy, this isn't even with games or items that really tax the resources. This is while using things like Pulse reader.. or pretty much anything that has to scroll or requires multiple touch actions in a row. like open email, scroll to bottom to check something, and press delete all in pretty quick succession. You have to pretty much pause between each screen touch so the tablet can keep up or you get "Application Not Responding". This is likely related to the poor I/O. (my 2 year old phone, and 2 year old ACER dont have this issue)
I helped out a previous employer and was given this tablet as a gift.. I keep it because depending on how you look at it, it wasn't really my hard earned cash that paid for it. I'm sure there are many people out there who love their tablet... But compared to my much older and much lower spec Acer A500 this thing sucks. If you dont NEED the keyboard.. try the Acer A700 instead.
The screen on the TF700 is very nice (the serious light bleed is only really noticeable at start-up). I have had no issues with blurriness or general ugliness. Obviously with the high resolution things must scale and any applications built with low quality graphics will be fuzzy when scaled. This is not an issue with the tablet, but rather with the App developer. Any high res screen will have the same issues until all app devs convert to higher quality graphics.
After dealing with my friends terrible TF201 (prime) and now this TF700 (2 of them).. Which proves ASUS is either not capable of fixing the performance issues, or simply doesn't care. Either way it will take a lot for me to throw any cash toward ASUS in the future.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
Honestly, i don't know why so many people say bad things about this tablet. No device is perfect, they all have their flaws... you just have to choose which ones are most important to you. Since I've gotten this tablet I've experienced nothing but good things... apps and games are fine and will only get better. Speed is fine with the browser2ram apk installed... and the look and feel of this thing is just amazing. Don't let all the negative comments here mislead you. I was worried when I bought this tablet then came here to read only negative things, but after taking the leap of faith I have no regrets.
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Okay, but so so many people say tf700 is really good, Wont JB make it better?
or am i better of getting nexus 7 32 gig + OTG to add my external HDD.
I would love to get the note 10.1, but sadly it doesnt have a international warranty.. and i makes no sense getting it from India as its around 40,000rs(800$)
So,i'll be getting either T700 or Nexus 7 or yea ipad mini(though am not intrested in apples products).
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No don't get it.
Why?
Because if you can't get rid of it easily after being disappointed then there you are.
Stuck with it...
...unless your not too worried about having a problematic tablet.
Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
I think it's a good investment. I love the **** out of my Inifnity. Yes, there are some QC issues like light bleed (very little in my case) and screen adhesive issues (again, very little for me) but I still think the price is justified. This is why stores have return policies.The best thing a consumer can do in this case, is to give the company as much feedback as possible. The majority of consumers don't realize how much influence they really have. Even the iPad has issues like these. Granted, Apple customer support is probably a lot more responsive. I still think people should not go into the tablet market, being so young as it is, and expect perfection.
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I wouldn't recommend this tablet. I have had it since it launched and I waited too long to return it.I waited for JB to be released on it. It ran ok with ICS but now that it has JB its pretty sluggish and choppy compared to other tablets in the Transformer line that run JB(which was a huge letdown considering the hardware in this thing). And as of now, there nothing optimized for its 1080p screen. This tablet is just a little too far ahead of its time. If i could make any recommendation, I would say wait until the Nexus 10 is released.
Yea nexus 10 will be too late(and probably when it comes out i wont be able to get it, cause next year my uncle might not come down to india).. now i'm looking into nexus 7,ipad mini and ipad 3 :/
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Well. i agree with all your point's.
Acer and 2-3 more compaines are coming out with 1080p tabs + htc butterfly which is a 1080p phablet.
So, i assume all these "might" lead to a quality full HD app's?
And does the nexus 7 support OTG
Great now i find out it has dead pixel issues :/
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Acer already makes an HD tablet.
That would be the A700...take it from me a former owner.
Don`t go there either.
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so No to ASUS TF700?
Won't custom roms make it better
I say yes if it would be easy to return after buying.
Doesn't sound as though it would be easy for you to return if you had problems.
I would recommend the Infinity with reservations.
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I'l keep this tab on hold
I'll look into ipad mini too
BTW does nexus 7 support OTG,so i can connect my USB drive or HDD
Might be good to check the Nexus forum here at XDA.
From what I read OTG may not be fully supported (read only)
Would you by any chance consider the Windows Surface as an alternative?
Both will feature tegra 4, 2560x1600,microsd,front & rear facing camera I assume new Asus will be unlockable but nothing is definite-
Do you think Toshiba will have better i/o?
I wouldn't mind a change but I will wait to see how it plays out ?
IF Asus fix the I/O then I think with ASUS pedigree in the Tab market and hopefully strong Dev Community which is already here you'd feel and hope it would be the better purchase. But it mostly rides on the I/O will have to wait nearer the time I suppose.
Is there an a release date with it yet?
Haven't seen a release date, as it may have to depend on how fast they are cranking out Tegra 4 chips. I would go with ASUS based off their past performance in updating devices faster than other manufacturers. But like most, the I/O performance is going to influence the upgrade from those on these forums, or Toshiba or HP may be getting some customers. I would imagine an mid-July early August release for these devices.
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Release date
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Haven't seen a release date, as it may have to depend on how fast they are cranking out Tegra 4 chips. I would go with ASUS based off their past performance in updating devices faster than other manufacturers. But like most, the I/O performance is going to influence the upgrade from those on these forums, or Toshiba or HP may be getting some customers. I would imagine an mid-July early August release for these devices.
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You can order june 25 from toshiba direct
The Toshiba 32gb apparently will be $100 less than the Asus. The catch is no keyboard dock option, or steady updates. They also like to use proprietary connectors, so no advantage there. If Toshiba updated more, I would lean more to saving $100. I rarely use my TF300 dock.
I think the Tegra 4 chip is going to be a watershed point and be a near death blow for some laptop segments. The iPad 4 is already causing it and this should be a near final straw.
Edit: Both 32gb models are same price, so getting the Toshiba IMO would make no sense due to lack of updates.
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The Toshiba 32gb apparently will be $100 less than the Asus. The catch is no keyboard dock option, or steady updates. They also like to use proprietary connectors, so no advantage there. If Toshiba updated more, I would lean more to saving $100. I rarely use my TF300 dock.
I think the Tegra 4 chip is going to be a watershed point and be a near death blow for some laptop segments. The iPad 4 is already causing it and this should be a near final straw.
Edit: Both 32gb models are same price, so getting the Toshiba IMO would make no sense due to lack of updates.
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Well not only that the Toshiba has locked boot loaders. Good luck rooting it as it does not seem like even the existing models have support for that.
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Well not only that the Toshiba has locked boot loaders. Good luck rooting it as it does not seem like even the existing models have support for that.
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I have the Toshiba Excite 7.7 and appreciate the locked thing Device works great though
KinetiClutch said:
IF Asus fix the I/O then I think with ASUS pedigree in the Tab market and hopefully strong Dev Community which is already here you'd feel and hope it would be the better purchase. But it mostly rides on the I/O will have to wait nearer the time I suppose.
Is there an a release date with it yet?
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Well, I hope Asus has learnt from their mistake in ruining all of the good components in Infinity with I/O issues. This, however, makes me wonder what were they thinking when they released Infinity with such a laughable I/O performance. Mind you I eventually sold my Infinity. It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers. Are you listening Asus?!
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Well, I hope Asus has learnt from their mistake in ruining all of the good components in Infinity with I/O issues. This, however, makes me wonder what were they thinking when they released Infinity with such a laughable I/O performance. Mind you I eventually sold my Infinity. It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers. Are you listening Asus?!
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Of course they are not listening. You are not talking to them.
sbdags said:
Of course they are not listening. You are not talking to them.
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Actually I am talking to them by not buying their products again.
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It was very frustrating to install ROMs one after another just to gain a bit of performance. Despite of loving Android as a mature OS, I am going back to iPad to focus on using the tablet rather than fixing mistakes of greedy careless hardware manufacturers.
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So what the hell are you doing on an Android developement forum dedicated to exactly that?
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Actually I am talking to them by not buying their products again.
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Because one person not buying their stuff is really making a notable difference...
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ShadowLea said:
So what the hell are you doing on an Android developement forum dedicated to exactly that?
Because one person not buying their stuff is really making a notable difference...
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Lol! I am glad you are enjoying it. I get it. Sometimes it is hard to admit a wrong purchase.
Now cool down and read this: If it was not for the great work some of the developers do here I wouldn't keep it for a day. TO name a few, CROMI and CM10.1 really made it tolerable and even great in some aspects. But I cannot blame you for simply being a fan. There are fanboys in all of the camps. Android and apple.
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Lol! I am glad you are enjoying it. I get it. Sometimes it is hard to admit a wrong purchase.
Now cool down and read this: If it was not for the great work some of the developers do here I wouldn't keep it for a day. TO name a few, CROMI and CM10.1 really made it tolerable and even great in some aspects. But I cannot blame you for simply being a fan. There are fanboys in all of the camps. Android and apple.
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Not a fanboy, I lack a few dangling bits between my legs for that.
I do not regret my purchase at all. I have not noticed much in terms of lag, certainly not as much as people claim there to be. Compared to my GT 2 10.1, which I most certainly do regret buying, it is razorsharp and very smooth.
Maybe others are too proud to admit a mistake, but that is a male ego trait. I have neither pride nor ego, let alone the need to defend it.
All I meant was that it is a little lame to go on an Android forum to say Apple is better.
I bought the Excite Pro, good piece of equipment, some cons ofc but i'm really enjoying it, to bad about support though.
Toshiba is pretty bad for update efforts. My Toshiba Excite 7.7 is an example. Toshiba are also awful with making efficient firmware that does not bleed the battery while in sleep mode. Even with wifi off it bleeds more than most tablets. Wonder if same for the new T4 tablet.
Got the Toshiba Excite Write!
And it looks to be a damn fine tablet. Antutu scored 28k+ and the graphics power is phenomenal. Has built in video and audio enhancements, seems pretty stable on this kernal build, although I expect an update soon because of a couple of weird quirks. The stylus works great (love the eraser by turning over the pen!), but not as developed as the Note 10.1, however, the screen rez is fantastic at 320 DPI and looks as good as the Nexus 10. The rear camera is REALLY great...best I've seen so far on a tablet, and the speakers are clear as a bell with excellent surround sound controlled in hardware, so anything you play gets enhanced. It does get a little warm on the left side under the camera when running an intensive app.
If you have any questions or requests, fire away!
Good day
From where you get toshiba pro or write i want to buy a new one
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salman saso said:
Good day
From where you get toshiba pro or write i want to buy a new one
Thank you
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I pre ordered from Toshiba and they shipped it the next day even though it said they weren't shipping till the 18th. I guess they wanted to live up to the Excite part...lol
What is the expected release date for the asus tablet?
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titou00075 said:
What is the expected release date for the asus tablet?
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Our guess is as good as yours. They have been really quiet since the reveal. I would guess mid August for back to school season
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