Verizon Galaxy S3 supports HSPA+!!
I test My Verizon Galaxy S 3 in China Unicom‘S network,
download speed 11Mbps
it's hspa+，
How is this development?
P.s. THIS IS COOL nonetheless
antispiral said:
How is this development?
P.s. THIS IS COOL nonetheless
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To hell with it, this is very good news for us.
One, not development. Two, I believe that's what the SIM card in our phones is for
I had thoughts it might, once I started tearing through the framework there are hints of HSPA+ all over the place.
Couldn't figure out why they would be there unless our phone supported it. Good to see it does!
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One, not development. Two, I believe that's what the SIM card in our phones is for
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The SIM card is primarily for LTE, it's kind of surprising that they actually bothered to put in the HSPA+ to be honest since it's not primarily intended to be used on GSM. I would have thought that they would have skimped on the GSM radios since not many people will use them but I guess because of the way the MSM8960 SoC works it was easy to build in all the antennas needed to support it. Pretty exciting to see that our phone supports practically every cell phone standard then.
Also, it's kind of awkward the way they split up the forums but I guess since there is no Verizon SGS3 general maybe he thought it could fit here. Also he was posting in the other thread about GSM usage in this board which also contains no development so I guess he thought it was okay.
I thought Verizon was releasing an update later on that was supposed to make the S3 a "global" device. Is your phone using the newer baseband/modems? I know a lot of people have been wonder what the update included in that regards (most knew that it contained the crippled search). I wonder if this is the update Verizon mentioned when the phone was announced.
Speaking with our business's Verizon rep about 6 months ago he said that Verizon's plan was to use dual HSPA and LTE in the phones. One service would be strictly for voice, while the other for data. This of course would allow them to do surf while talk.
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Speaking with our business's Verizon rep about 6 months ago he said that Verizon's plan was to use dual HSPA and LTE in the phones. One service would be strictly for voice, while the other for data. This of course would allow them to do surf while talk.
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I would recommend a new Verizon rep. Eventually voice will be over LTE but currently is not. Verizon has no HSPA+ so his logic is flawed. Also, all Verizon LTE phones support talk and surf while on LTE and some support on 3G like the thunderbolt.
LOL ! I don't understand why people seem to take what reps say as fact.
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I would recommend a new Verizon rep.
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timothydonohue said:
One, not development. Two, I believe that's what the SIM card in our phones is for
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ROTFLMAO.
nforce4 said:
Verizon Galaxy S3 supports HSPA+!!
I test My Verizon Galaxy S 3 in China Unicom‘S network,
download speed 11Mbps
it's hspa+，
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So if I have Verizon gs3 I just put in a china unicom sim and it will switch no problem. I travel to china for work often.
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I would recommend a new Verizon rep. Eventually voice will be over LTE but currently is not. Verizon has no HSPA+ so his logic is flawed. Also, all Verizon LTE phones support talk and surf while on LTE and some support on 3G like the thunderbolt.
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Our galaxy s3 also support same time voice/data on 3g.
GSM as a standard supports voice/data simultaneously unless only the legacy GSM (not even EDGE) signal is available. As long as more than one protocol is accessible, you can do voice & data.
AT&T
Does this mean this phone can be used with AT&T if unlocked?
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Does this mean this phone can be used with AT&T if unlocked?
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No, probably not without some kind of hack.
Verizon's "global" phones have always been locked at the modem-level to refuse connections with AT&T and T-Mobile's US bands, to prevent this.
TeamBlackHat came up with a hack for my old phone, the Droid 2 Global, that did allow it to connect to AT&T/T-Mobile in the US, though- but Verizon will never allow this.
Edit: I am curious about the other thread going where someone got it to connect to AT&T's towers (only voice) though.
This is interesting.
I thought we'd only get EDGE data abroad.
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so after seeing iphone commercials about browsing while talking i tested this on thudnerbolt and gnex. both worked
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so after seeing iphone commercials about browsing while talking i tested this on thudnerbolt and gnex. both worked
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I wanna say that you cant browse and talk while on 3g but it works fine while on 4g. So if anything I think that commercial was more so directed towards the Verizon model of the iphone and the iphone commercial you were seeing was from AT&T. This is my guess anyways.
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I have a question, because a lot of people here seem to do it. How exactly do you go about getting an international version of a phone(GS3 or HTC One X) and using it with a prepaid plan? Do you just go out and buy cards or what? Also what prepaid plans are worth using and which aren't so hot?
it's a good question, I would like to know it too
There are a few good plans out there. Not sure about the phones you listed as I have the GT-N7000 but Straight Talk is probably on of the best prepaids that I have ran across. Unlimited everything for $45/mo (data is not truely unlimited though read others about it).
You can buy the sim card only from their website straighttalksim dot com and it states "Use any compatible or unlocked GSM phone – including smart phones".
May be worthing into for you.
+1 on the Straight Talk. I've used it on a Euro Pre3 as well as a German market Omnia7. The speeds are the same as AT&T and if you behave on the usage you won't have any problems. They frown on streaming so keep it at less than 50 megs per day (it's actually in violation of their T&C's). Same goes for tethering, I tether on a daily basis but I keep it limited to emails and attachments of less than 10 megs. For $45 a month, we can't really complain about the limitations. You could always go legit, but you will be seeing your proctologist on a regular basis.
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The speeds are the same as AT&T
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No.
I do not believe they have LTE.
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No.
I do not believe they have LTE.
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Not the LTE speeds but there 3G speeds. I'm averaging ~3mbps to 9mbps depending on where I'm at. It works for everything I do including light streaming.
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I do not believe they have LTE.
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I'll amend my statement for clarity. Based on the devices I've owned and used on Straight Talk, the speeds are the same as AT&T. This includes H+ on the Pre3 which is advertised as 4G. I've never tried on any LTE device so I can't, or won't, comment on it.
So would new devices such as the Note and Nexus work on straightalk?
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So would new devices such as the Note and Nexus work on straightalk?
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Any AT&T branded phone or any unlocked GSM phone works on Straight Talk. Just need to change the apn and MMS settings for data to work. Voice & text work without modification.
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So would new devices such as the Note and Nexus work on straightalk?
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Yes. I am currently using ST on my International Note but like above, any GSM phone should work.
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Any AT&T branded phone or any unlocked GSM phone works on Straight Talk. Just need to change the apn and MMS settings for data to work. Voice & text work without modification.
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How is this done?
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So would new devices such as the Note and Nexus work on straightalk?
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The Nexus also works on the t-mobile, $30, 100 minute, 5 gig data, unlim text plan. However, most "new" phones are coming without the 1700 band, hence won't get hspa+ on t-mobile (unless you buy it straight off them).
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Hey guys I have a question about straight talk service.my question is what is the best option between simple mobile vs straight talk.the thing is where I live T-Mobile service is only edge service so I called straight talk customer service and they told me that they run on T-Mobile and at&t so can I use at&t service on my Samsung galaxy s 4g.(at&t is the best service here now does any one here have straight talk on there phone here that can give me some advice..side note my phone is unlocked
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I currently am not on either one of those services. However if I understand correctly about the two services I believes Simple Mobile is the better service when it comes to data usage, however though according to research the two are very similar when it comes to coverage(they both use basically the same towers) the main differences would be data caps. Look into the data caps of both plans, but if what you are saying is true about T-Mobile having only Edge then that shouldn't really matter, go with the one that has the better speed, because if you only get Edge you'll never even get close to the data cap anyways.
I've even read things that say Straight Talk now owns Simple Mobile. How true that is I don't really know, do some research for yourself and make the best decision from your budget and your area, even if I had one of those plans my experience would most likely be very different than any experiences you will have because of the areas we live in. Try talking to people in your area that have one of the two, they would know a lot more about the service, speed, and coverage than anyone that doesn't live near you.
That's just my advice...
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just one thing you need to know. when if you go to att, the thing is you might not even get 3/4g but only edge because of the difference on frequency/broadband att and tmobile uses. i don't know about straight talk because never use it nor research what frequency/broadband it uses
The biggest issue is Straight Talk has a invisible DAILY data cap. And they dont just shut off the data they turn off the service completely. Ive been told to order the T-Mo sim from them not the att so you dont hit the daily cap.
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The biggest issue is Straight Talk has a invisible DAILY data cap. And they dont just shut off the data they turn off the service completely. Ive been told to order the T-Mo sim from them not the att so you dont hit the daily cap.
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the problem for me is that the T-Mobile service sucks here I only get edge and at&t service is the best here..
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the problem for me is that the T-Mobile service sucks here I only get edge and at&t service is the best here..
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I would use a data monitor for a couple weeks get a idea of how much data you use per day. Then decide if it is worth having to ***** at ST to get your account turned back on if you go over.
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just one thing you need to know. when if you go to att, the thing is you might not even get 3/4g but only edge because of the difference on frequency/broadband att and tmobile uses. i don't know about straight talk because never use it nor research what frequency/broadband it uses
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The SGS4G has a 1900 MHz UMTS modem, so you should be able to get at least 3G from the AT&T network (unless you live in one of their 850 MHz areas).
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The SGS4G has a 1900 MHz UMTS modem, so you should be able to get at least 3G from the AT&T network (unless you live in one of their 850 MHz areas).
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Sorry to tell you this can be your reference.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_4g-3719.php
Clearly state that our device only get 3/4g from 1700/2100MHz and others are Edge/2g
I just switched from T-mobile to Straight talk due to the same reason as stated in the OP. The T-mobile coverage was bad in my office building and AT&T penetration in buildings is always claimed to be better. I unlocked my Galaxy S 4g using the helpful posts from here and ordered the Straight talk AT&T card. I can confirm that I do see 3G showing on my phone and the speed was great when it was 3G. But, its not always 3G, I do get in the Edge areas too often too. I am very happy because my voice coverage has improved leaps and bounds after switching.
I have read about the scary part where Straight talk cancels service if we go over some hidden limits. So to be safe, I ported my number over to Google voice and use that to make a call. This way, I can switch between phone providers easily without any porting issues. But, not sure if Google voice will remain free after the end of the year.
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I just switched from T-mobile to Straight talk due to the same reason as stated in the OP. The T-mobile coverage was bad in my office building and AT&T penetration in buildings is always claimed to be better. I unlocked my Galaxy S 4g using the helpful posts from here and ordered the Straight talk AT&T card. I can confirm that I do see 3G showing on my phone and the speed was great when it was 3G. But, its not always 3G, I do get in the Edge areas too often too. I am very happy because my voice coverage has improved leaps and bounds after switching.
I have read about the scary part where Straight talk cancels service if we go over some hidden limits. So to be safe, I ported my number over to Google voice and use that to make a call. This way, I can switch between phone providers easily without any porting issues. But, not sure if Google voice will remain free after the end of the year.
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Thank you guys all here for your responds I will try straight talk next month when my service is about to end with simple mobile.I don't have nothing to lose but the 12 dollar for:thumb ST sim card and 5 dollars extra ST service vs my 40 dollar simple mobile service :thumbup:
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Sorry to tell you this can be your reference.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_4g-3719.php
Clearly state that our device only get 3/4g from 1700/2100MHz and others are Edge/2g
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Samsung doesn't advertise the 1900 MHz UMTS band for the phone, but it's there. I often swap out the SIM on my phone with my work iPhone, and the 3G works just fine.
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I was able to get the Verizon Samsung galaxy S3 to work on simple mobile(prepaid service that uses t-mobile's towers) but I am only getting 2g speed. As anyone being able to get it work on t-mobile with 3g speeds.If the 3g works on t-mobile, it would work on simple mobile.
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I was able to get the Verizon Samsung galaxy S3 to work on simple mobile(prepaid service that uses t-mobile's towers) but I am only getting 2g speed. As anyone being able to get it work on t-mobile with 3g speeds.If the 3g works on t-mobile, it would work on simple mobile.
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I'm currently on T-Mobile, and I'm only getting max of EDGE connection, which is equivilent to 2G... I guess. Lol
Only way 3G or 4G will work is for T-Mobile to merge Verizon towers with theirs, and that will not happen, for about another month or so, promised by T-Mobile. But I hope so!
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I'm currently on T-Mobile, and I'm only getting max of EDGE connection, which is equivilent to 2G... I guess. Lol
Only way 3G or 4G will work is for T-Mobile to merge Verizon towers with theirs, and that will not happen, for about another month or so, promised by T-Mobile. But I hope so!
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From what I have heard from verizon themselves is that the contract talks fell apart between them and t-mobile. I have an S3 and have rooted and swapped sims.. then reprogrammed the phone to only pickup 750mhz 1700mhz, 1900mhz, and 2100mhz (I believe that is what I have it set to) so that if/when they do get back together and make it happen the phone that I have setup will be able to grab the tower information and get 4g. I have spoken with T-,Mobile and they are not saying anything at this time. I will keep you up to date.
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From what I have heard from verizon themselves is that the contract talks fell apart between them and t-mobile. I have an S3 and have rooted and swapped sims.. then reprogrammed the phone to only pickup 750mhz 1700mhz, 1900mhz, and 2100mhz (I believe that is what I have it set to) so that if/when they do get back together and make it happen the phone that I have setup will be able to grab the tower information and get 4g. I have spoken with T-,Mobile and they are not saying anything at this time. I will keep you up to date.
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Wait so how were you able to do this. Can you post the instructions online.So your currently getting 3g with tmobile on you verizon GS3?
samsunggs3owner said:
Wait so how were you able to do this. Can you post the instructions online.So your currently getting 3g with tmobile on you verizon GS3?
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no. what I was mentioning is that the contract talks between them fell apart...I am still working on getting 3g on the phone.. however I have seen that the chipsets are the same between the models. I purchased 2 gs3s one att and one verizon. Opened them up and part numbers where the same on the main board. I am fairly new to the android development area and so to the best of my knowledge you should be able to flash the radioover but have not tried yet... am going to try once I get some time to flash an AT&T radio and kernals and see if I can put a sim into the phone and see what happens.
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no. what I was mentioning is that the contract talks between them fell apart...I am still working on getting 3g on the phone.. however I have seen that the chipsets are the same between the models. I purchased 2 gs3s one att and one verizon. Opened them up and part numbers where the same on the main board. I am fairly new to the android development area and so to the best of my knowledge you should be able to flash the radioover but have not tried yet... am going to try once I get some time to flash an AT&T radio and kernals and see if I can put a sim into the phone and see what happens.
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Hope you got jtag Some very good devs have tried to get it to work for months and havent been able to. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895684
Thought this may be of interest... I see other threads out there related to some older phones, but nothing related to the GNex5, so I thought I'd start one here.
I'm on Sprint, and apparently I can't do simultaneous voice and data with LTE or 3g during voice calls. Wifi seems to work just fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Sprint? What's the experience for those using T-Mobile/ATT? Stock or unlocked? I've also noticed that I'm unable to update my PRL or Profile (Network Error). I am unlocked and rooted at the moment. Did not notice this as I didn't tinker with it prior to unlocking.
Coming from Samsung GS3 and GN2 with Sprint where the LTE/3G radio is separated, I did not realize this was still a technological challenge... I went with this phone simply because it was inexpensive for the hardware and I don't have to renew my contract to avoid paying an arm and a leg. Have I just hit a "You get what you pay for" scenario, putting me (or anyone using CDMA) back 3 years in radio tech??
The phone has to support SVDO in order to do voice+data on Sprint. Very, very few phones do (the EVO 4G LTE did, the HTC One didn't, for example). It requires a special antenna configuration as well IIRC.
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Thought this may be of interest... I see other threads out there related to some older phones, but nothing related to the GNex5, so I thought I'd start one here.
I'm on Sprint, and apparently I can't do simultaneous voice and data with LTE or 3g during voice calls. Wifi seems to work just fine. Anyone else experiencing this with Sprint? What's the experience for those using T-Mobile/ATT? Stock or unlocked? I've also noticed that I'm unable to update my PRL or Profile (Network Error). I am unlocked and rooted at the moment. Did not notice this as I didn't tinker with it prior to unlocking.
Coming from Samsung GS3 and GN2 with Sprint where the LTE/3G radio is separated, I did not realize this was still a technological challenge... I went with this phone simply because it was inexpensive for the hardware and I don't have to renew my contract to avoid paying an arm and a leg. Have I just hit a "You get what you pay for" scenario, putting me (or anyone using CDMA) back 3 years in radio tech??
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Unfortunately no, the nexus 5 does not support SVDO or SVLTE. This means it also will only connect to one airlink at a time - when you receive a call, it will switch to 1x, pausing your LTE, similar to older handsets.
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Unfortunately no, the nexus 5 does not support SVDO or SVLTE. This means it also will only connect to one airlink at a time - when you receive a call, it will switch to 1x, pausing your LTE, similar to older handsets.
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Too bad... Found more on s4gru regarding this:
"That is what we have been told. Sprint tri band LTE devices will not support SVLTE. Whether that is due to band 26 LTE 800, band 41 TD-LTE 2600, or the combination of the two, we do not know. And the sample size is very small right now to project unconditionally into the future. But the standard expectation going forward should be no SVLTE on Sprint multi band LTE devices. Simultaneous voice and data will have to be accomplished by other means, such as third party VoIP apps and eventually VoLTE."
I are a sad sprint customer lol. Also why I went with a multi carrier phone off contract June 2014 can't come soon enough, cause I loves this phone!
This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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laestrella said:
This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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I hear that. My biggest issue with switching providers is that I average 5-6gb of data usage/mo on my line and about 12gb combined with the other two phones on my family plan (Ting told me not to switch lol). It's hard to beat the bargain offered for services rendered from Sprint. Nickles and dimes I suppose. Oh well, maybe 2015 will be the year of the phone... (Oh wait, we'll probably have 5g by then and tri-band will evolve to octa-band with the same problems )
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I hear that. My biggest issue with switching providers is that I average 5-6gb of data usage/mo on my line and about 12gb combined with the other two phones on my family plan (Ting told me not to switch lol). It's hard to beat the bargain offered for services rendered from Sprint. Nickles and dimes I suppose. Oh well, maybe 2015 will be the year of the phone... (Oh wait, we'll probably have 5g by then and tri-band will evolve to octa-band with the same problems )
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I still have a family plan on sprint so if my data amount becomes an issue I'll go back but for now I'll sacrifice more data for fast and always available data, and at a rate of $45 I'll take it.
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laestrella said:
This was my biggest complaints with this phone on sprint. I couldn't do it so I activated it using straight talk for att and couldn't be happier. It's unfortunate that spark phones on sprint won't do simultaneous voice and data, at least for now. But I'm not willing to compromise.
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I have ST AT&T service. When I am on a call though, I lose LTE. It switches me to H (HPSA I think). Speed is not terrible, but would be nicer to have LTE while on a call. Do you have the same experience? If not, do you know how I can have LTE while on a call? Thanks.
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I have ST AT&T service. When I am on a call though, I lose LTE. It switches me to H (HPSA I think). Speed is not terrible, but would be nicer to have LTE while on a call. Do you have the same experience? If not, do you know how I can have LTE while on a call? Thanks.
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Nope, that's by design. It has to do with available radios. If LTE isn't on a separate radio it can't be used simultaneously. On the upside, having less radios means better battery life overall.
I did a search and couldn't find anything related to this, so I thought I'd post it.
Straight Talk allows Verizon 4G phones on their network!!!
To be specific, I checked a few ESNs with their system as well as chatted with a person on this, and you can in fact bring over a Verizon 4G phone and use it with Straight Talk. This is CDMA ONLY, and you will be limited to 3G speeds.
I will be verifying this in the next few days when my new (used) phone gets here. If it doesn't work, I will be sure to let everyone know/delete this thread.
I was quite pleased to hear this because I was tired of having to look for 3G phones that are all outdated, and ST's smartphones can be expensive. I was able to pick up a near-mint LG G2 for less than ST's GS3. But, we'll see if it works!
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I did a search and couldn't find anything related to this, so I thought I'd post it.
Straight Talk allows Verizon 4G phones on their network!!!
To be specific, I checked a few ESNs with their system as well as chatted with a person on this, and you can in fact bring over a Verizon 4G phone and use it with Straight Talk. This is CDMA ONLY, and you will be limited to 3G speeds.
I will be verifying this in the next few days when my new (used) phone gets here. If it doesn't work, I will be sure to let everyone know/delete this thread.
I was quite pleased to hear this because I was tired of having to look for 3G phones that are all outdated, and ST's smartphones can be expensive. I was able to pick up a near-mint LG G2 for less than ST's GS3. But, we'll see if it works!
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CDMA leftover problems
Please delete this thread, I was incorrect. Straight Talk WILL NOT activate 4G LTE phones on a CDMA only network. I was misinformed.
Sorry everyone.
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