I consider(ed) rooting the device as soon as I get it. Still there are the risks.
I want to do it mainly cause of Titanium Backup. But now I read in the manual there actually is an app to backup app settings and data included.
And I leave the custom roms beside as we will get JB anyway and I do not plan to use another custom rom anyhow for the moment.
So I wonder, at this point why would you root? Are there any other reasons to root?
Titanium Backup is my main reason to root, although root file access is also a great plus (think Root Explorer, Total Commander), and GMD Gesture Control and a crapload of other programs only work their magic if they have root access).
Addfree, droidwall, setcpu, tasker are the apps for which I need root.
And the other thing is to delete the bloatware which I don't use like Asus Cloud.
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I guess its in the eye of the beholder, but I wouldn't call Asus' utilities bloatware. Isn't Asus Cloud Splashtop HD? That's some pretty swanky bloatware.
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I'm not in possesion of one yet.
Can you backup your app data and settings with the integrated app to that integrated cloud?
Cause that would be pretty nice as another backup option.
I root so i can develop! life without rooting is boring, you feel like you're missing out on things
When I get mine, I'll be rooting it for adaway, droidwall, chroot, and the SIO schedualer (if I feel its necessarily).
I'd like to add Chainfire 3D to the list for its night mode screen filter, but given how it messes with drivers I wouldnt feel safe running it without having an unlocked bootloader.
Why do I root? Heh, I'd get banned for telling you.
Why? Control issues! ;>
and seroiusly - sio was the first reason for me, now I wouldn't consider it a life without AdAway
and it's always nice to have a Linux-like shell experience with BusyBox
all the other come in handy too, but some of the other reasons were already described ^^
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Nebucatnetzer said:
Addfree, droidwall, setcpu, tasker are the apps for which I need root.
And the other thing is to delete the bloatware which I don't use like Asus Cloud.
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So what SetCPU settings are you on right now on the Infinity?
Found another reason to root:
The external sdcard is mounted as some special folder called removable.
So most apps can not handle it.
In some you can't even get to that level where the folder resides.
So a symlink would help a lot.
But you must be rooted to do that.
I have one offside question , does rooting enable the ability to MOVE APPS TO SD? really need this , those 1Gb games start to add up.
I'm developer so I should be root. It's just reason
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So I've rooted devices before, usually I have a reason to. What's are some good reason's you guys are rooting the transformer. Is it doing something you're not able to without root. Some must have apps? Or just because you're a control freak? Also any side effects that you see?
I haven't rooted yet, but this is why I'd do it (I know it seems silly) I want to use titanium backup to install app data files so i dont have to play all those levels over again in angry birds.
nxp3 said:
So I've rooted devices before, usually I have a reason to. What's are some good reason's you guys are rooting the transformer. Is it doing something you're not able to without root. Some must have apps? Or just because you're a control freak? Also any side effects that you see?
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I guess I mostly want to be in control. I already needed root to copy the XOOM notification sounds and install SetCPU. If I pay for a device I want to be able to use it without (unreasonable) restrictions.
OK... I know I have been full of questions and really I just posted another question in the general forum a moment ago but I am trying to stick to the specific forums for specific questions so don't get mad at me ._.
ANYWAY... Looking at the underlying processes and other apps I will never use how does one safely remove these? I have heard of "freezing" things so you can defrost them later just in case you decide otherwise.
Any thoughts? Would this require a root?
Zadeis said:
OK... I know I have been full of questions and really I just posted another question in the general forum a moment ago but I am trying to stick to the specific forums for specific questions so don't get mad at me ._.
ANYWAY... Looking at the underlying processes and other apps I will never use how does one safely remove these? I have heard of "freezing" things so you can defrost them later just in case you decide otherwise.
Any thoughts? Would this require a root?
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You'll need to be rooted and Titanium Backup Pro will allow you to freeze apps.
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You'll need to be rooted and Titanium Backup Pro will allow you to freeze apps.
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Ah thank you. Now in terms of doing that isn't there a list somewhere that lists all the "safe" apps to freeze? I have found lists pertaining to other tablets but not specifically the Tab 7 plus yet. Unless I'm just blind and it's been right in front of me (which is very likely) xD
I have not seen such a list but I haven't looked for one either.
Ah OK. I think I had found one for the Galaxy Tab (which I am assuming is the 10.1) and another one (which I forget what it was) so I figured I would ask.
Thank you all for your input though!
what bloatware are in your gtab?
Well, I'm getting ready to go somewhere so I can't look but all share comes to mind since I will never use it. That and for some reason after rooting my Tab (did it last night and I am quite happy) the samsung screen saver thing came back! Even though I uninstalled it.
The thing is about 50 megabytes of showcase video of the very tablet I am using...
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Well, I'm getting ready to go somewhere so I can't look but all share comes to mind since I will never use it. That and for some reason after rooting my Tab (did it last night and I am quite happy) the samsung screen saver thing came back! Even though I uninstalled it.
The thing is about 50 megabytes of showcase video of the very tablet I am using...
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If for any reason you boot into recovery there is a "hidden" partition that will re-install all that crap. If you install garyd9's CWM recovery it will not do this.
I have uninstalled almost 50 programs on my gtab that I dont use. Its stripped down to a bare tab. I HATE unwanted un needed programs.
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I have uninstalled almost 50 programs on my gtab that I dont use.
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50? Can you list these apps?
I cleaned (froze with TB to be exact) and it's not even close to 10, but I am overly cautious so not to break the Tab. For example, I froze Polaris Office, AP Plus widget, etc.
Yes I will. Ill compare it tomorrow and post what I removed about to go to bed for now.
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Is it OK to freeze these apps with Titanium Backup:
1). Apps
- Media Hub
- My files
- Samsung Apps
- Social Hub
- Talkback
- SNS related apps:
- Disclaimer
- Facebook
- Twitter
- LinkedIn
2). Built-in widgets, such as:
- AccuWeather.com (widget)
- AP Mobile (widget)
- Buddies now (widget)
- Digital Clock (widget)
- Dual Clock (widget)
- Yahoo! Finance
3). Built-in wallpapers (live or static)
- Aurora 2 (wallpaper
- Blue sea (wallpaper)
You can easily remove all apps that you don't need. You just need rooted device and root explorer or something similar. Then go to system/app and remove app you want.
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You can easily remove all apps that you don't need. You just need rooted device and root explorer or something similar. Then go to system/app and remove app you want.
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that didt work for me... im getting root error issues...
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that didt work for me... im getting root error issues...
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I got an error too when I intially tried to use Root Explorer, i opened up superuser (didnt actually do anything accept check the settings), then tried again, and access was granted properly. I already had the latest binaries via busybox so I'm not sure what happened.
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I got an error too when I intially tried to use Root Explorer, i opened up superuser (didnt actually do anything accept check the settings), then tried again, and access was granted properly. I already had the latest binaries via busybox so I'm not sure what happened.
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I think this is an issue with SuperUser itself.
The problem is, I cannot set the Automatic Response to "Prompt". If I do use that, then ANY apps that requires root access will be automatically DENIED. The only solution is to set the Automatic Response to "Allow", which I don't want to.
I tested this with LBE Privacy apps. With "Prompt" set in SuperUser, after every reboot, 2 out of 3 times LBE failed to start. I had to open SuperUser and start LBE again and it works. When I set to "Allow", no more problem.
Hey guys, sorry for the question, but what are the benefits of just rooting?? (since i dont think i want to unlock the bootloader, and im a bit confused bout which goodies come with rooting, and which come from unlocking )
Thanks
Coldsun15
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Hey guys, sorry for the question, but what are the benefits of just rooting?? (since i dont think i want to unlock the bootloader, and im a bit confused bout which goodies come with rooting, and which come from unlocking )
Thanks
Coldsun15
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Well a lot of really great applications need to be run on a rooted device.
For instance some RAM boost apps, certain security apps, antivirus apps.
A few games like rooted devices also.
...etc.
Others will chime in here shortly with better answers...
and ad block apps that usually block ads in other apps too
Root gives you full control over everything in /data and /system. So you can backup and restore all your apps and data (e.g. using Titanium Backup) or add/delete/replace system apps (at the cost of losing ability to do OTA upgrades, except if you keep a backup of the original files and restore them before doing the upgrade). You can run Browser2RAM and other nice hacks and customize your system while it is running.
What you cannot do with root only: custom recovery or custom kernels. No custom recovery means no easy way to modify or repair the system from "outside", the only thing you can do with the stock recovery is restore the complete system ROM. No custom kernel means no advanced modifications, e.g. DPI changes, over/underclocking, or driver-level stuff.
Setting your DPI lower than stock. 180 is so sweet.
No it's not working anymore since JB.
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Thanks guys! I have a rooted and unlockedhtc desire z, and im able to install kernels nstuff, but i wasnt sure which things i was being able to do due to being unlocked.
Thanks for the answers!
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No it's not working anymore since JB.
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I'm going to wait a bit longer too see if anyone has a solution. Then I'll unlock and install clean Rom. Then dpi change will be possible.
Just my two cents
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Hey guys, sorry for the question, but what are the benefits of just rooting?
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There are a lot of great "lowlevel" networking apps like dSplot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914699 (there are a bunch of others, zanti, facesniff, etc, google is your buddy) which if you're into those type of things, are REALLY handy danddy.
The adblocking can't be praised enough, whenever I come across an unrooted-unadblocked device it makes my head spins.
Certain file manager apps (Total Commander, Beta Explorer to name a few) arguably takes advantage of root to squeeze better performance or features (personally, I didn't notice anything faster nor slower, but I dig it when total commander says it's being granted root access when I move files, it make me feel special like that).
Browser2ram is super-freaking-amazing (check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923285)
If you're a linux fly guy, having busybox around makes this tablet way more handy and powerful (I'm ssh'ing into it, doing all bunch of thingies)
You can use somewhat more sophisticated VPN-alike routing like ssh-tunneling from your tablet through your home (or amazon EC2, like in my case) on a per-app or device-wide basis (e.g: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.sshtunnel&hl=en there are others)
Various app-backing things (yes, titanium is fine, I meant along the line of DataSync: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quintstoffers.DataSync&hl=en)
IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING you can tweak and play with various scripts and config files lying around though I'd be extremely careful with that as it can brick your device, prevent you from OTAing or punch a hole through the universe, ymmv (I personnaly had some issues with build.props which the fine gentlemen here on xda helped me resolve)
There are plenty of other reasons, rooting really makes android in general, and this device specifically, shine like a crazy diamond.
Cheers.
so i will start off by saying i was disappointed when i got this device because i thought it had full access to the Google play store when only 5% or less apps work, none of which i want (Netflix, hulu, plex etc. not there) i was looking for this device to be both a media server/gaming device for some asphalt 8/real racing action. etc. so i am starting this thread to hope it attracts attention and we can get someone to help us root it because if we can accomplish that i heard of a program called market helper that would trick the market into thinking we are using an s4 or something.
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so i will start off by saying i was disappointed when i got this device because i thought it had full access to the Google play store when only 5% or less apps work, none of which i want (Netflix, hulu, plex etc. not there) i was looking for this device to be both a media server/gaming device for some asphalt 8/real racing action. etc. so i am starting this thread to hope it attracts attention and we can get someone to help us root it because if we can accomplish that i heard of a program called market helper that would trick the market into thinking we are using an s4 or something.
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Thanks for starting it. I am in the same situation. Just for the context, it has Exynos 5250 dual core processor @1.7ghz and a 1TB hard drive inside mounted with ext4 in /storage/emulated/0 (also /sdcard etc.).
I'm trying to root it since a week now without success. I tried to flash self-made boot.tar with boot.img inside using Odin 3.09, but it FAILS. Same goes for pre-rooted system.img. It seems that this bootlader has a lock and it's checking signature, since we can't sign it like Samsung, it refuses to flash. Heimdall 1.4.0 also fails with a message stating "failed to confirm end of file transfer sequence". I've tried some chinese websites root method, but it also did not work (Odin does not flash the root file).
I've downgraded from Oct 2013 firmware to an ealiest one that I could find : B9150ZSABME2_B9150OZSBME2_TGY from May 2013. With this, I ran Cydia Impactor on it and it was able to place /system/xbin/su into the system partition. However, it is not setuid root, thus when I run su, it just waits forever. I don't know how the exploit can place the binary there but not make it setuid root. Supersu.apk is also installed, but it does not launch normally and dies.
The Impactor is able to run a telnetd server as "system" user, but system user also can't setuid root the su binary. It can't mount system RW. Impactor can't launch a telnet server as root neither.
I've tried some other exploits that were found for S4 (pwn etc. ), DoomLord v17. It all failed. I also tried SRS One Click Root, and Chinese eroot, they also failed. I'm now out of ideas and appreciate if anyone would have any idea.
I am attaching partition layout. I can also send the kernel if necessary.
okay so this is what i have done so far, i know nothing about developing a root procedure but i am very impatient.
nova launcher installed (forced landscape in nova settings and now every app loads landscape like it should)
Blackmart (this is where i will be downloading all my apps from straight to the device)
got angry birds installed as a test app (worked perfectly)
did all this in a few minutes before i went to bed and will keep exploring tonight, hope this helps some people who own the device. next im going to try and install a FPS or racing game and see how that turns out.
Erik10002, I've also installed Nova, but then you lose the status bar as the notifications on Samsung firmware is a bit diferent (on upper left side with an indicator count). I'm not sure if it would be usable without status bar. (or am I mistaken? ie where the running program icons shall be seen as well as the clock, etc.).
It seems that our device has some kind of kernel protection or capability restriction to run setuid root su binary, according to Saurik himself. So I will try to further think how it can be overcome.
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Erik10002, I've also installed Nova, but then you lose the status bar as the notifications on Samsung firmware is a bit diferent (on upper left side with an indicator count). I'm not sure if it would be usable without status bar. (or am I mistaken? ie where the running program icons shall be seen as well as the clock, etc.).
It seems that our device has some kind of kernel protection or capability restriction to run setuid root su binary, according to Saurik himself.
How do you enter download mode on this thing?
Two methods :
1) power off. Then press function button, hold it, then press power button. Led will be red. This is download mode
2) enable developer mode, usb debugging. Then connect it to your pc with its micro USB port and run adb reboot download
If you want recovery, adb reboot recovery
not a glimmer of hope for root on this device so far :crying:
Yes unfortunately nobody seems to be interested. I also gave up and using it stock now. Except the issue of not being able to write timestamps on internal files, it's OK. For timestamps issue, I just use an external USB and use internal ones for files where I don't care about creation modification times. (ie movies etc)
I want to try to open its case to see if hdd is replaceable and if I can externally set 777 permissions on files which may help me set timestamps. Any clue how this box can be opened?
Don't know how to open it up and yes it is a shame as I was looking for this to be an android multimedia powerhouse and Android game console and those dreams got crushed although I got real racing up and running (and it runs smoothly) and get all my apps/games through blackmart alpha I have been to lazy to get an android gaming controller and am currently just using the box as a backup for my Galaxy devices but will venture further eventually. Surprised this thread I started hasn't got more attention because when I type Samsung homesync root into Google this is the 2nd link on the page I think. I will keep praying, one day, one day!
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In fact it's still OK. I'm running SMB server and SSH server on it. They run on non standard ports but all my pc are Linux so it's not an issue.
I have Torrent for downloading, Xbmc for media, bittorent sync for syncing. Biggest annoyance is the timestamp issue that's bugging all phones and tablets with ext4 sdcards and that play store is a joke with nearly all apps not compatible while most of them run just fine. Why did Sammy do something like this is beyond my understanding.
So this device is not getting any attention from the devs? Hope it will be rooted one day. It has got way more potential than what it is now.
I think this device has powerful hardware specs but poor software, Wish someone find a way to root it so we can use it more effective
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so i will start off by saying i was disappointed when i got this device because i thought it had full access to the Google play store when only 5% or less apps work, none of which i want (Netflix, hulu, plex etc. not there) i was looking for this device to be both a media server/gaming device for some asphalt 8/real racing action. etc. so i am starting this thread to hope it attracts attention and we can get someone to help us root it because if we can accomplish that i heard of a program called market helper that would trick the market into thinking we are using an s4 or something.
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Let's create an vote for this device so any dev find way to root it!
toan3000 said:
I think this device has powerful hardware specs but poor software, Wish someone find a way to root it so we can use it more effective
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Let's create an vote for this device so any dev find way to root it!
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I do believe that this device will not have great success.
The first point is that it is only devoted to Samsung devices. Why ? I have another android Phone and I cannot use this stuff...
If I have to spend 300 Euro for a device that requires other samsung device, this is a closed one like a MAC and I dislike it.
You can install homesync apk by side loading at least on some Android phones and tablets, as far as I read in some Websites. You could give it a try.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/17/samsung-homesync-media-hub-compatibility/
Yeah. Samsung has extended support to other Android devices for homesync app. Despite hearing so many negative reviews on this device, I shomehow enjoy using it. I'm using the device everyday for media consumption everyday without fail.
How does XBMC run on this thing? And does the Homesync Phone Remote Control work within XBMC? Thats the main reason I'm looking to get this device quite honestly.
Thanks a lot.
I saw the rooting method on a Chinese site. I'm thinking about buying this Homesync for HD Player and torrent download.
Zanr Zij said:
I saw the rooting method on a Chinese site. I'm thinking about buying this Homesync for HD Player and torrent download.
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Which website?
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Which website?
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Here you go
http://www.2gcn.com/android/ROOT/20130908/5137.html
Zanr Zij said:
Here you go
http://www.2gcn.com/android/ROOT/20130908/5137.html
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Not working on my homesync
So about a week after I bought my One M8 (Sprint), I rooted the phone.
I installed a program called System App Remover that lets you uninstall programs that normally require root access. Here are a few programs that I uninstalled (fully):
Facebook
Instagram
Hangouts
Google+
Twitter
Stocks
Sprint Zone
Sprint Worldwide
Sprint Live
Lumen Toolbar (completely pointless "toolbar" for the internet browser)
...and so on. This freed up about 250MB of data on the phone.
Now, every so often, all of these programs find their way back onto my phone! I don't know what is causing this or how to prevent it!
On a related note. Since I purchased and set up my M8, 3 TIMES my phone has completely downloaded Sprint Zone, which completely removed any set up I had done, changing the styles, themes, home screens, EVERYTHING back to the default "demo" mode that they have set up at the store. Are these problems related? If so, how do I fix this?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: The common denominator I've noticed is this tends to happen after a phone reboot, for what it's worth.
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So about a week after I bought my One M8 (Sprint), I rooted the phone.
I installed a program called System App Remover that lets you uninstall programs that normally require root access. Here are a few programs that I uninstalled (fully):
Facebook
Instagram
Hangouts
Google+
Twitter
Stocks
Sprint Zone
Sprint Worldwide
Sprint Live
Lumen Toolbar (completely pointless "toolbar" for the internet browser)
...and so on. This freed up about 250MB of data on the phone.
Now, every so often, all of these programs find their way back onto my phone! I don't know what is causing this or how to prevent it!
On a related note. Since I purchased and set up my M8, 3 TIMES my phone has completely downloaded Sprint Zone, which completely removed any set up I had done, changing the styles, themes, home screens, EVERYTHING back to the default "demo" mode that they have set up at the store. Are these problems related? If so, how do I fix this?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: The common denominator I've noticed is this tends to happen after a phone reboot, for what it's worth.
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You have to delete those apk files in a file Explorer in system/app then reboot. Hope this helps.
Thanks!
I use ES File Explorer, and I just checked. I don't see any apk files of the programs I uninstalled.
What do you mean when you say you rooted the phone? If you're only running weak sauce for root then you don't have the ability to modify /system. If you can, I would recommend gaining s-off & unlock through firewater or sunshine. Their availability depends on your current software. That way you can truly root and also remove /system write protection (wp) and your changes won't revert on reboot.
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Also, you might have better luck asking this in the Sprint forum.
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What do you mean when you say you rooted the phone? If you're only running weak sauce for root then you don't have the ability to modify /system. If you can, I would recommend gaining s-off & unlock through firewater or sunshine. Their availability depends on your current software. That way you can truly root and also remove /system write protection (wp) and your changes won't revert on reboot.
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Also, you might have better luck asking this in the Sprint forum.
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As far as rooting goes, I did so using this method:
http://theunlockr.com/2014/04/19/root-htc-one-m8-all-in-one-toolkit-method-video/
Just running a stock HTC Sense recovery (I think TWRP).
I am using other programs that require root access, such as Hide Nav Buttons, WiFi Router, ES Explorer, etc.
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As far as rooting goes, I did so using this method:
http://theunlockr.com/2014/04/19/root-htc-one-m8-all-in-one-toolkit-method-video/
Just running a stock HTC Sense recovery (I think TWRP).
I am using other programs that require root access, such as Hide Nav Buttons, WiFi Router, ES Explorer, etc.
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So your problem is that you are not s-off. This means /system write protection is enforced. After a reboot, any "deleted" apps will return. You can use TWRP file manager to delete the individual apks from your rom (make sure you mount system first under system).
I would highly recommend you s-off though as you won't have to deal with /system write protection anymore and your bloat removal tool/app will work as intended. The above poster was meaning this in what he wrote to you earlier...