Should I unlock and root or wait? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Might be a silly noob question. But here goes: I will be getting a new used Nexus S 4G Sprint phone shortly and use it as my daily driver. I wanna jump on this JB fuss and flash Roms on this thing. But was wondering, should I activate the phone before unlocking , rooting and flashing? Or after or does it matter? I just wanna be safe and keep the data working on the phone because I've been reading scary stuff here after JB updates and all.
Appreciate any feedback.
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If you unlock the bootloader now, you don't need to worry about losing all your stuff since it wipes EVERYTHING on the device. People flashed their JB builds and didn't fully read stuff which is why they were getting errors. Read some of the guides available on this site and get familiar with the ins and outs

chronophase1 said:
If you unlock the bootloader now, you don't need to worry about losing all your stuff since it wipes EVERYTHING on the device. People flashed their JB builds and didn't fully read stuff which is why they were getting errors. Read some of the guides available on this site and get familiar with the ins and outs
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the best advice 4u is to follow his advice.

I think my reply is worded incorrectly. I meant to say if you unlock the bootloader now, there won't be anything on there, so you really don't have to worry about backing anything up.

Root and be happy. Customize as you so desire
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root 1st, profit 2nd
but in order to fully profit, make sure you always read the ENTIRE op of the rom/kernel/mod your flashing and the last 5-10 pages of the thread to see what other users are experiencing

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Need help

Anybody has tmobile sensation that is flashed with the latest android revolution pls help me decide if I should also flash my phone and help me flash it if I decided to. I'm a noob not a tech savvy so basically I have zero idea on how to do it thanks in advance.
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Eddy thanks for this info how I wish I can finish reading 2000+ post on it. But I fairly got bits of idea. Hope there's an easy way around.
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You only need the first page - the rest is just random posts.
Google 'flash a custom ROM on Android' to get more info on the actual flashing procedure but I wouldn't do ANYTHING until you understand what it is you're doing
If you need to ask if you need to flash a certain rom then the answer is NO, you do not need to flash.
There's a learning curve on how to do it, and do it correctly, learning how to go back to stock, and also upkeep of the rom (flashing everytime it's updated)
What's wrong with your phone right now that you want to put a ROM?
Don't feel like you need to put a ROM just because other people are doing it.
Your rooted and S-off already right?
I flashed my tmobile to revolution hd the first day I got it. This site is really helpful with all its guides. I did the whole thing in less then 24 hours and before this phone I knew next to nothing about android an s-off etc. If you read the guides properly I dont think its possible for you to screw up.
P.S I use mine in Canada with mobilicity, but I am guessing u r with tmobile.
Have to ask, but why did you root your phone? Did you actually have a reason to or did you do cause everyone else did and it 'looked cool'?
I'm not having a go but rooting actually isn't needed. The Sensation out the box is a great handset. The ONLY reason I did was to remove the bloat I don't use (including most of HTC's widgets). If HTC were to release a phone that allowed this without root I'd have no reason to - even if I could
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Have to ask, but why did you root your phone? Did you actually have a reason to or did you do cause everyone else did and it 'looked cool'?
I'm not having a go but rooting actually isn't needed. The Sensation out the box is a great handset. The ONLY reason I did was to remove the bloat I don't use (including most of HTC's widgets). If HTC were to release a phone that allowed this without root I'd have no reason to - even if I could
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Im not going to lie but i did it cause everyone else was doing it and seemed like the thing to do... Since doing that I have actually learned a lot... Its the greatest thing when you can take a phone and COMPLETELY make it your own from the rom that you have on there to the splash screen and the boot and down animation... Knowing its there because thats what YOU want there not what HTC or your carrier wants there is the greatest gift... Its YOURS.
See, there you go. Not a good example for a 'should I root' question
Fair enough, you've learnt now but you'd look like a bit of a tit if you'd bricked your phone without knowing how to reverse it.
Word to the OP - READ EVERYTHING
Do not attempt to do anything until you know what you're doing. OK, there are some things you can only learn having done a few things but for the most part build up your confidence by understanding everything the guide(s) tell you
I agree with mr. burglar I did it because of all the modification options. I just like things different. If I could change the rom in my toaster I would.
Well I have had a fair amount of experience jailbreaking iphones... I know that its nothing like rooting a droid... I did not root blindly either... I came about doing myself cause I did some research I saw that the evo was being rooted and they said it was the same for the Sensation... I found a really great detailed video in two parts on you tube of how to do this step by step so there was going to be no error... Not only that there are lots of people on craigslist i could have paid to root... I took the chance... well no some a chance but I was certain that I would have no problems with doing this it was a 15 minute or so journey that came out just fine
I wanted to try flashing my Rom because I have read that after flashing with android revolution made their phone faster and battery last longer.
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D-Reapper said:
I flashed my tmobile to revolution hd the first day I got it. This site is really helpful with all its guides. I did the whole thing in less then 24 hours and before this phone I knew next to nothing about android an s-off etc. If you read the guides properly I dont think its possible for you to screw up.
P.S I use mine in Canada with mobilicity, but I am guessing u r with tmobile.
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Yes I'm with tmobile and will still use it with tmobile if I root and flashed it.
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EddyOS said:
Have to ask, but why did you root your phone? Did you actually have a reason to or did you do cause everyone else did and it 'looked cool'?
I'm not having a go but rooting actually isn't needed. The Sensation out the box is a great handset. The ONLY reason I did was to remove the bloat I don't use (including most of HTC's widgets). If HTC were to release a phone that allowed this without root I'd have no reason to - even if I could
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It is the same reason I want to learn and root my phone to remove the bloat and atleast have a better battery life.
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well cant argue against trimming the extra fat which is kinda slowing down the phone. Nothing like a lean mean calling machine.
Without root, you can't get rid of Sense. CM7 is so fast! Add a Faux kernel and see everyone else including the SGSII in the rearview mirror.
This was the video that i used to root my HTC Sensation... The video is for the Evo 3d but it also works for Sensation too... Watch first and decide wether or not you want to proceed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sw_mgVHWYo&feature=related
i rooted my phone just to get rid of the bloatware. i like play around with the stock rom first than move on to a custom rom.
if you are serious about rooting i sugest you read the guide several times before you continue. if you have any questions there are many here that will help you. i also like to add that it would be a good idea to check what rom you are using now and download the .ruu for it and keep it in a safe place. i have seen several questions here of someone trying to return their phone back to stock for warranty, exchange, or what ever reason they want to return back to stock but they dont know what rom they had before flashing. so download this ruu first before trying to flash a different rom. it will save you the hastle.
Divine flaw said:
i rooted my phone just to get rid of the bloatware. i like play around with the stock rom first than move on to a custom rom.
if you are serious about rooting i sugest you read the guide several times before you continue. if you have any questions there are many here that will help you. i also like to add that it would be a good idea to check what rom you are using now and download the .ruu for it and keep it in a safe place. i have seen several questions here of someone trying to return their phone back to stock for warranty, exchange, or what ever reason they want to return back to stock but they dont know what rom they had before flashing. so download this ruu first before trying to flash a different rom. it will save you the hastle.
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Thanks for the info. Can u help me root and flash mine, guide me step by step?
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[Bounty] Someone who will help me root/unlock bootloader/flash stock android rom

Hey,
I'm offering a $20 bounty to whoever would like to have a Skype chat with me (video preferably) and help me root/unlock bootloader/flash a rom. I come from the land of jailbreaking iPhones and this whole root stuff seems a hella more complicated.
Here is my situation:
I am updated to the latest version of android (4.0.4) with the latest OTAs from Verizon. My baseband is the latest VRLG7 version. I would like someone who has gone through this whole process or someone with credibility on XDA.
There is so much compatibility checks that you must do that it is too hard for a newbie like me to risk my $600+ device.
I am running stock TouchWiz with no mods or root or anything.
Please reply and I will PM you shortly.
Thanks!
There is still the option of posting your doubts here on XDA, and paying nothing..
If you are still unsure of what you are doing, then perhaps you should read up on this stuff, and maybe even watch some videos on people doing things like this. Modifications to the firmware of the phone should not be attempted unless you know what you are doing.
I would help you for free. But I'm at work for another five hours. So I'm no help right now.
There's a root tool you can use.
From there, use unlock boot loader app from market.
Install Rom manager. Flash recovery.
Install room as needed. I have files at home to use. I can upload them later.
There are guides all over the forum. Look in the development section.
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Biggest mistake you can make is to pay someone else to walk you thru this and in the process, learn nothing about your new phone.
Everything you need is in these forums. Read all the stickies ... read them again ... and then, again. Rooting and unlocking your bootloader are pretty much one click propositions.
Then, when you are ready to play with root privileges, you will understand modems, kernels, ROMs, rom themes, build.prop tweaks, etc. ... and won't do something stupid, like trying to flash an I9300 ROM to your I535.
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pdinphx said:
Biggest mistake you can make is to pay someone else to walk you thru this and in the process, learn nothing about your new phone.
Everything you need is in these forums. Read all the stickies ... read them again ... and then, again. Rooting and unlocking your bootloader are pretty much one click propositions.
Then, when you are ready to play with root privileges, you will understand modems, kernels, ROMs, rom themes, build.prop tweaks, etc. ... and won't do something stupid, like trying to flash an I9300 ROM to your I535.
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Yes, everything you need is in these forums, but I could definitely see it being more reassuring, less stressful, and less time consuming to have someone explaining the process as it's happening. Hands on learning and instruction.
The fact that he is willing to pay someone $20 for their time and expertise is pretty cool of him. A lot of users on here just expect tech support for free, lol.
If you still want a live walk through, I'd do it.
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click on the link in my sig and donate the 20.00 to Team Sbrissen Mod to help them get a s3!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908591
I completely understand the fear. I've been rooting and roming since the Original Droid and I still get nervous each time I try doing it with a new phone. However some amazing people here put together some truly impressive tools and tutorials. Follow them step by step and you'll succeed. Destroying the phone to a point where it's not fixable is usually not that easy.
Personally I used this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709 and everything was SUPER easy.
Once you do it a few times you really do lose the fear, in my case it always comes back with each new phone.
Just for the record, I'm very happy with my S3 and the only reason I even rooted was to make it not turn on when the home button was pressed. I had it in a pouch and it kept getting pressed in my pocket.
Wow. Just a few hours and I got PM's from people showing me how to do it all for free. You guys are truly amazing. It's so great that we have such a large community on XDA with such helpful and supportive people.
My new reasons that people should switch to android.
1. Great OS with endless customization
2. A rock star community of wonderful people
Thanks so much guys.
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Welcome to freedom , just read up because everything you need to know is either in this forum/YouTube or you can Google it .if you need help I can helpyou with the basics.(for free)first golden rule after you root is make a backup of your system using cwm..ez-recovery.can't stress enuff how that will get you out of trouble and head aches.all I can say is read read and read more....
To unlock the bootlaoder make sure u get ez unlocker v1.2 i heard the later version arent working right if u want i have a copy of the v1.2 us loaded in my dropbox this is a link of it
http://db.tt/4zyQrkwa
Oh and back up ur imei
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i wanna root my sg3... is it worth it?

i dont know if i should root my sg3 or not! kinda scared, and whats the best program to root this device without crashing? and what are the chances to get the jellybean update... (im a verizon customer) .. lol anyways any kind of info helps.. thnx!
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You don't need to root to get a stock jellybean release on your phone. You would use a program called odin and put your phone into download mode and it will flash the system on your phone. If you don't like it or need to warranty your phone you just odin back to a official verizon release.
You can follow this guide, you would need 1,2,and 8. Then just follow the steps included. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974114
Rooting is something you would do if you wanted to run apps or alter system files that require special privileges to access, read or write. A good reason to root is flash a custom recovery. The custom recovery will allow you to make backups of your phone. If something breaks on your system you can simply restore a backup in like 10 mins and its good as new
If you want to flash a rom then you will need to rooted AND have your bootloader unlocked. Its a pretty easy process to do everything as long as you pay attention. I.e. don't flash a rom meant for another carriers S3 or the international S3 cause you will hard brick your phone and have to mail it to someone with like $60 to get it fixed A good rom to try first would be CleanRom imo. There are many guides around this forum, just read em and reread em then go at it. If you are unsure about something then ask before you do it.
P.s. Backup your imei...... here is a great guide on how to do everything... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
I just recently had to make the same decision! Finally, after a good bit of research and youtube video watching, I decided to go ahead with the root process and couldn't be happier! Especially with Verizon being so far behind right now.
It's so easy to do. Just read and follow all the steps.
Just my 2 cents,I couldn't imagine having a non rooted phone. Even if you don't want to flash a rom, getting the bloat off is worth it. Some apps can be disabled now but a few still linger.
I may still have 'noob' status on this forum, but I have been lurking here for years. And I have rooted all of the Android phones that I have had (Droid Incredible, Thunderbolt, and now GS3). I don't do much with my rooted phones, but being able to run a version of the operating system (JB) that seems like it will never make it out of Verizon R&D is totally worth it.
The root method for the S3 is incredibly easy. And there is plenty of help on these forums. Just make sure you read the info before moving forward, and all should be well.
I would say go Root. I too have been following the forums, and you will find an incredible amount of information on this site. Helpful people as well.
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I'd say go for it, why wait for the jelly bean update when you can get it from leaked ROMS already.
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I would definitely root. There are so many roms, mods, themes that you can flash and it seems like something new every week. Plus this maybe one of the easiest phones to root that there is. There many guides that will help you and the community is wonderful.
You have v6 camero dont you want the v8 top of the line?
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Make sure you do your research before hand, there is more than enough info on here but really there is no reason not to unless your phone was given to you by your job or something
x714x said:
You don't need to root to get a stock jellybean release on your phone. You would use a program called odin and put your phone into download mode and it will flash the system on your phone. If you don't like it or need to warranty your phone you just odin back to a official verizon release.
You can follow this guide, you would need 1,2,and 8. Then just follow the steps included. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974114
Rooting is something you would do if you wanted to run apps or alter system files that require special privileges to access, read or write. A good reason to root is flash a custom recovery. The custom recovery will allow you to make backups of your phone. If something breaks on your system you can simply restore a backup in like 10 mins and its good as new
If you want to flash a rom then you will need to rooted AND have your bootloader unlocked. Its a pretty easy process to do everything as long as you pay attention. I.e. don't flash a rom meant for another carriers S3 or the international S3 cause you will hard brick your phone and have to mail it to someone with like $60 to get it fixed A good rom to try first would be CleanRom imo. There are many guides around this forum, just read em and reread em then go at it. If you are unsure about something then ask before you do it.
P.s. Backup your imei...... here is a great guide on how to do everything... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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I didn't know that. Thanks for the info!
I rooted my Droid Incredible and my Kindle Fire. Both were easy with a tutorial. It made the Kindle Fire a whole new device. I was waiting to root my S3 until after Verizon released the JB update, but seeing the quoted post above, it looks like I don't have to wait for Verizon.
I believe there is a one click root method for the VZW S3 so there's really no reason not to root!
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Root that dude!
Learn a couple things and assert yourself my young Padawan! After all...
Aren't you holding a SGS3-PO?
x714x said:
You don't need to root to get a stock jellybean release on your phone. You would use a program called odin and put your phone into download mode and it will flash the system on your phone. If you don't like it or need to warranty your phone you just odin back to a official verizon release.
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You still need an unlocked bootloader to do this which would void warranty anyways.
So worth it!!! Root it!!! There are plenty of Step-by-Step guides in the developers forum that makes it so easy...but please read all the steps first then do them....
You know, I would always root, but would be much less tempted if Verizon didn't load up MY phone with bloat.
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Root unlock and get system app mover and busybox. Move bloat apps from system and then uninstall them.
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Can someone point me in the right direction? Looking for simple steps. I want to stay stock, no root. Would like to flash the latest leaked Jelly Bean. And then instructions on how to go back to Ice Cream Sandwich when the official Jelly Bean OTA comes out. Thank you everyone.
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-before anything read and read more, if you do root first thing to-do make a backup of your system(nandroid)
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Its a matter of prefrence really.
I recently went back to stock and im content as can be.
Not really missing anything and there's tons of APK's around to get u what ur looking for.
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Yes rooting your phone opens up the posibility to do anything flash roms, mod, ect.
If you like being able to customize your interface then you should defiantly root your phone.

is there an updated unlock/root tool? or ...updated version to unlock/root?

I want to unlock/root my tf300t.....I received it Feb 2013- I just "registered" it yesterday (...oooops) perhaps......
I have been all over the internet and youtube to see what it will take to unlock and root. I have found good things, and read bad things (as some to say...the unlocking tool is not working if you are on JB-which I am) and I dont want any "problems"
then I am very not good at the whole abd thing at all- the thing I have noticed is alot of things posted wether videos or written stuff on forums are dated back in 2012....
We have been fortunate out there with gnexu's or droidx's or what have you-allowing us to have a tool that unlocks "a device"..and actually roots aswell....Is there an updated tool out there that these wonderful devs created that will do the same for our beloved tf300t
or to say the least a real easy way from step 1 to finish for me and others...I have unlocked and rooted many devices but I am "hestitant apprehensive but not scared" to unlock and root this-bc I def dont want bloatware and all that crap and roms that will make this tablet superb
ganggreen777 said:
I want to unlock/root my tf300t.....I received it Feb 2013- I just "registered" it yesterday (...oooops) perhaps......
I have been all over the internet and youtube to see what it will take to unlock and root. I have found good things, and read bad things (as some to say...the unlocking tool is not working if you are on JB-which I am) and I dont want any "problems"
then I am very not good at the whole abd thing at all- the thing I have noticed is alot of things posted wether videos or written stuff on forums are dated back in 2012....
We have been fortunate out there with gnexu's or droidx's or what have you-allowing us to have a tool that unlocks "a device"..and actually roots aswell....Is there an updated tool out there that these wonderful devs created that will do the same for our beloved tf300t
or to say the least a real easy way from step 1 to finish for me and others...I have unlocked and rooted many devices but I am "hestitant apprehensive but not scared" to unlock and root this-bc I def dont want bloatware and all that crap and roms that will make this tablet superb
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This should be helpful for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2041627&highlight=guide
dude i got mine last week. unlocked and rooted 5 minutes after fully charged.follow the guides in the sticky's
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OK I understand that I may have sounded like s noob (I'm not I promise) what I really don't understand is extracting files and
placing then here or there ......I have reached the part in trying to root where My tf300t states that it is is fastboot protocol.....I have no idea what to do after that...will the TWRP recovery do the rest....I don't know. Never rooted a tablet. I have rooted many phones though.....
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ganggreen777 said:
OK I understand that I may have sounded like s noob (I'm not I promise) what I really don't understand is extracting files and
placing then here or there ......I have reached the part in trying to root where My tf300t states that it is is fastboot protocol.....I have no idea what to do after that...will the TWRP recovery do the rest....I don't know. Never rooted a tablet. I have rooted many phones though.....
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follow this.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2041627

getting an s3 in a few weeks. ?'s.

i have been using the droid x2 for about two years. it has a locked bootloader, and very limited abilities as far as flashing roms goes. kernels will be a new thing to me. i have noticed that in most rom install instructions, there are no specifications on what version to be on. lol not something i am used to.
could someone point me in the right direction for some reading material on the subject? this phone specifically? i understand a fair amount about being rooted and performing various things within recovery and android in general. i just want to make sure that before i go messing around with my s3, i know exactly what im doing. thanks in advance.
also, i have read a decent amount already, and it seems like this phone is fairly easy to brick,? also not something i am used to. the droid x2 with its locked bootloader was next to impossible to brick.
cant wait to join the ranks.! thanks again.
Lots of info here. Some of the info is old but reading it will help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079399
The only way I have seen someone hardbricking is by flashing a rom that's not made for the Verizon version. It seems people will accidently flash a rom for the the International version.
A few tips, back up your imei, make sure you unlock your bootloader and only flash Verizon roms.
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Lots of info here. Some of the info is old but reading it will help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079399
The only way I have seen someone hardbricking is by flashing a rom that's not made for the Verizon version. It seems people will accidently flash a rom for the the International version.
A few tips, back up your imei, make sure you unlock your bootloader and only flash Verizon roms.
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thanks for this. i appreciate you taking your time to hook it up. and thanks for the tips. ! :highfive: if you think of any others, let me know.

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