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Flash ruu after htcdev.com

My problem is that I cannot relock my phone after unlocking from htcdev.com
So now my bootloader is
Unlocked and s-on
So question is that can I flash my ruu directly to get my phone like before
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA

Provide some more info. About ur phone hboot? You can lock ur bootloader followvthe instructions which they already given.
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My hboot is 1.18 and I tried all ways to lock but all time it says
"Relocked
*security warning*
So can I flash ruu to get back to stock for ota
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Yes you should be able to, just make sure it is the right one for your cid
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e

r u sure that i can flash the ruu to relock my phone successfull to get official updates from htc...or can i get official update with stock rom but "unlocked from htcdev.com"
with
"unlocked"
and s-on status in bootloader

The RUU won't run properly as with s-on you cannot flash radio.img or boot.img. This guide will help with either return to stock or root/s-off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23222794
Sent from my Pyramid-T

thanks it worked for me to get s-off

[Q] How to s-off my XE?

I cannot s-off my Sensation XE with revolutionary tool.
It says to fill in a form at their site with device type , hboot version and serial number.
I have hboot version 1.27.0000 and the available versions on the form are only 1.17 and 1.18.
Except this when i run the tool it says that "your device , pyramid with hboot 1.27.0000 is not supported at this time".
i have installed the htc driver.
i powered on my phone without hboot (i removed the battery and then turned on).
i have ICS 4.03 version 3.32.468.112 (i got it OTA two days ago).
How can i s-off and then root my phone?
Please help me because i have not done anything like that before.

You have the wrong hboot version. Using revolutionary won't wont work for a phone with the ICS OTS use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611981
That.

you say that i must change my hboot version for it to work?
how is it wrong?
it is the one that my phone had stock.
and how can i change my hboot version?
will be all ok then or my phone will become unstabel or lose something?

Try the tacoroot method. I had a set of detailed instructions somewhere.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA

If you want S-off you will have to use the Juopunutbear S-off method linked above. Her is z link to the only detailed guide for the Sensation there is now.
Now by all means please understand you will have to use HTC Dev to unlock your bootloader before you can use this S-off method. When you use HTC Dev to unlock your bootloader it can cause you to void your warranty.

T-Macgnolia said:
If you want S-off you will have to use the Juopunutbear S-off method linked above. Her is z link to the only detailed guide for the Sensation that there is right now.
Now by all means please understand you will have to use HTC Dev to unlock your bootloader before you can use this S-off method. When you use HTC Dev to unlock your bootloader it can cause you to void your warranty.
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this page you linked does not exist.

djpeesh said:
Try the tacoroot method. I had a set of detailed instructions somewhere.
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA
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what is this method my friend? another one?
where can i find the instructions?

vag7os22 said:
this page you linked does not exist.
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Sorry about that, don't know why it did that. I fixed the link in that post now.

does anyone know if there will be a new tool that supports the latest hboot versions?
if there will be i can wait to do it that way because the others seem a little risky to me.

It's Juopauntbear or nothing at the moment, and it works fine.
You can always just use HTCDev unlock for the time being, that let's you flash recovery to swap ROMs & gain root.

Rusty! said:
It's Juopauntbear or nothing at the moment, and it works fine.
You can always just use HTCDev unlock for the time being, that let's you flash recovery to swap ROMs & gain root.
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i read at their site but i didnt understand much.
what is the juopauntbear method and what is the HTCDev?
the only thing i saw is that you do something with a wire at the phone and i am confused.

is it the same thing or i must do both to s-off?
i entered rhe HTCDev unlock page and it has some instructions.
if i do this will i be able to s-off or i must then do the juopauntbear tricks?

You must do the juopunutbear method if you want to s-off
But befor that you must use the HTCDev and root
You must understand that yll lose your warranty if you use the HTCDev method.

so the only way now to s-off with hboot 1.27 is juopunutbear right?
What exactly do the HTCDev then? I see that unlocks the bootloader.
I think is in different order than with revolutionary tool (first s-off then root then anything else but with this method you need first Htcdev then root then s-off) or am i wrong?

HTCDev does not unlock the bootloader only parts of it, so thats why you have to first unlock via HTCDev and then root and finaly s-off with Juopunutbear...Thats the only way to fully unlock your bootloader

mobilkungen78 said:
HTCDev does not unlock the bootloader only parts of it, so thats why you have to first unlock via HTCDev and then root and finaly s-off with Juopunutbear...Thats the only way to fully unlock your bootloader
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Understood.
That is the only way until revolutionary release a new tool that supports the new hboot versions i think.
I think i can wait a little more for s-off.
Thank you all for your help and your time.

[Q] HBoot locked and not relocked?

How can i make my hboot display Locked and not relocked?

You used HTC tool? As far as I know I don't think you can change it but I'm not certain. I hope someone has a fix for you. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
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naelmnael said:
How can i make my hboot display Locked and not relocked?
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SOFF using auggie2k SOFF guide (search in general section for the guide)
that converts your unlocked hboot to either locked or juopunutbear hboot ..with SOFF

ganeshp said:
SOFF using auggie2k SOFF guide (search in general section for the guide)
that converts your unlocked hboot to either locked or juopunutbear hboot ..with SOFF
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Where exactly what page please?

ganeshp said:
SOFF using auggie2k SOFF guide (search in general section for the guide)
that converts your unlocked hboot to either locked or juopunutbear hboot ..with SOFF
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I haven't been tracking that thread, but I speculated that it might work based on someone's post in a different section. Has someone actually confirmed that this does work?
Basically, run an RUU to go back to stock, S-ON again, and then follow the juopunutbear method without htcdev to S-OFF again. A side effect may be a "locked" hboot again.

ziddey said:
I haven't been tracking that thread, but I speculated that it might work based on someone's post in a different section. Has someone actually confirmed that this does work?
Basically, run an RUU to go back to stock, S-ON again, and then follow the juopunutbear method without htcdev to S-OFF again. A side effect may be a "locked" hboot again.
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The locked thing is not a side effect basically the soff process wipes the flags of unlock and relock
Even if you got juopunutBear hboot.. Once you flash a RUU you will have locked bootloader only not relocked/unlocked
And it's confirmed long back.. That's how the warranty is saved too.. As the soff process don't leave any visual traces of you doing unlock via htc-dev
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves

Not able to S-Off my Desire S, require help

Below is the details of my phone, I am not able to S-Off the phone, require help. I tried couple of things however gives me error.
Phone Details.
Saga Pvt ship S-on RL
Hboot – 2.00.0002
Radio – 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot

Which guide did u follow and which part did u encounter an error?
Have u used the search bar?
Be specific. Show us ur error.
Sent from my Desire S

unlock your phone with htcdev and root it with superoneclick
worked perfect for me :good:

johnyomair said:
unlock your phone with htcdev and root it with superoneclick
worked perfect for me :good:
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Using htcdev keeps the phone S-ON. You'll still be able to run custom roms, but can't flash a new radio.

rain987 said:
Which guide did u follow and which part did u encounter an error?
Have u used the search bar?
Be specific. Show us ur error.
Sent from my Desire S
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I refered to a you tube video " How to S-off htc desire s" the first video that shows up. My phone is already rooted using the hdc dev kit, however when I am trying to do s-off the software gives just a message "Error". It also fails at signature.
do let me know what more information can I provide.
If you have a guide that I can try and share the results with you do send me that as well. I am new to rooting the phone, so sorry for not providing any info that is required.

You either htcdev unlock or you s-off
You'll now need to relock your phone to undo the htcdev and then downgrade you phone in order to properly s-off using revolutionary.
There are various downgrade guides in the index, see link on my signature
Sywepd form my DsereiS

ben_pyett said:
You either htcdev unlock or you s-off
You'll now need to relock your phone to undo the htcdev and then downgrade you phone in order to properly s-off using revolutionary.
There are various downgrade guides in the index, see link on my signature
Sywepd form my DsereiS
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Thanks will try the suggestion and let you know the results

505dv said:
Using htcdev keeps the phone S-ON. You'll still be able to run custom roms, but can't flash a new radio.
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My HTC is S-OFF because i rooted it with SuperOneClick afterwards

johnyomair said:
My HTC is S-OFF because i rooted it with SuperOneClick afterwards
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No, it's S-ON, but writable on /system partition due to HTCDev unlock. It only means that you don't know the difference between S-OFF, rooting and HTCDev unlock - and misleading others.

Jack_R1 said:
It only means that you don't know the difference between S-OFF, rooting and HTCDev unlock - and misleading others.
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Then please tell me why my Bootloader says:
*unlocked*
SAGA PUT SHIP S-OFF RL
S-OFF ... Security off
Rooting ... Grant root for the device, like su on linux
HTCDev unlock ... unlocks the bootloader
But its ok I just tried to help...

Then you can try to avoid confusion providing more detailed info, like:
"I have used XTC Clip to gain S-OFF, then used htcdev.com, without any particular reason, then got rooted by SuperOneClick"
Your previous post can mislead some non advanced users that SOC can provide S-OFF, without using additional tools.
Sent from my HTC Desire S

Ok..
I unlocked my HTC Desire S following the instructions on HTCDev.com. Afterwards I rooted the Phone,installed Busybox and installed ClockworkMod Recovery using the SuperOneClick tool for Windows 7.
And now I am able to flash Rom and Radios.

Nope to upgrade your Radio you have to be S-OFF

Maybe it was shipped with S-OFF because I had a brandig first.

I doubt that it was shipped S-OFF and even if, why would you unlock it with HTCdev ?

johnyomair said:
Ok..
I unlocked my HTC Desire S following the instructions on HTCDev.com. Afterwards I rooted the Phone,installed Busybox and installed ClockworkMod Recovery using the SuperOneClick tool for Windows 7.
And now I am able to flash Rom and Radios.
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And you can flash radios only because you had a phone which already was S-OFF, either during manufacturing or by XTC-Clip, and you just didn't understand it and uselessly unlocked it while you could have done whatever you wanted with it. And S-OFF is the only reason you can flash radios, and HTCDev unlock didn't actually add anything and didn't allow you anything - just as it won't allow any non-S-OFF user to flash radios, and won't turn S-ON to S-OFF. But what do I know, I was just passing here.

c.m.b said:
I doubt that it was shipped S-OFF and even if, why would you unlock it with HTCdev ?
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It is unlikely, but certainly possible. In the early days of Desire S development (back when we had to use the XTC-Clip hardware to obtain S-Off) there were some people who got their devices brand new already S-Off.

ok, back to the topic:
the simpliest way to gain s-off without xtc-clip is to downgrade the bootloader to HBOOT 0.98, and gain S-OFF with Revolutionary. After you did this you can run the latest ruu, which doesn't influence wether your s-off or s-on. Finally, you've got a device with hboot 2.02 and s-off.

After using revolutionary you are already S-OFF!
If you want to upgrade your HBOOT don't run a RUU AFAIK it could brick your device ... use this tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679338
Do you know the differences between Radio HBOOT S-OFF root etc?
Sent from my Desire S using xda app-developers app

Jack_R1 said:
....you had a phone which already was S-OFF, either during manufacturing or by XTC-Clip, and you just didn't understand it and uselessly unlocked it
................and HTCDev unlock didn't actually add anything and didn't allow you anything...........
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I have to disagree @Jack_R1 the unlock via htcdev wasn't completely useless as it managed to void his HTC warranty! :laugh: logging that fact with HTC in the process!
we can only try...........:silly:

BIG Problem

My friend have a HTC SENSATION ICS, S-ON, UNROOTED.
He installed custom work mod recovery and then root via CWM with S-ON (if you can believe that)
Now, when i`m trying to use juoponut bear S-OFF , controlbear.exe tell me that Second Backup failed ...... press any key to exit.
What i have to do?

You friend used HTCDev.com to unlock his bootloader and this is how he was able to install Clockwork Mod Recovery. But when you use HTC Dev it only unlocks the bootloader and gives you write permissions to the system partition, recovery partition, and the boot partition. It does not give you full S-OFF. Now if you want to S-OFF his device you will first have to undo the HTC Dev unlock. Now you can find instructions on how to do this at HTCDev.com. Once you have done this you can then use JuopunutBear to S-OFF hiIs device.

T-Macgnolia said:
You friend used HTCDev.com to unlock his bootloader and this is how he was able to install Clockwork Mod Recovery. But when you use HTC Dev it only unlocks the bootloader and gives you write permissions to the system partition, recovery partition, and the boot partition. It does not give you full S-OFF. Now if you want to S-OFF his device you will first have to undo the HTC Dev unlock. Now you can find instructions on how to do this at HTCDev.com. Once you have done this you can then use JuopunutBear to S-OFF hiIs device.
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I'm pretty sure the first version of jupuntobear needed htcdev unlock, so he may not need to relock
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

Can I install a custom ROM without FULL S-OFF ? onyl htc dev unlocked

razvanwin95 said:
Can I install a custom ROM without FULL S-OFF ? onyl htc dev unlocked
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Yes. Follow this guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda app-developers app

heavy_metal_man said:
I'm pretty sure the first version of jupuntobear needed htcdev unlock, so he may not need to relock
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium
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You are very correct, the first version of JuopunutBear required you to be HTC Dev unlocked. But the currentveraion does not require it. Now to the best of my knowledge you have to have a locked bootloader to use Juopunutbear to S-OFF.
At the OP, yes you can flash ROMs while still S-ON, but you can not flash radios, rule, splash screens, orfirmwares while you are only HTC Dev unlocked. The guide that was linked will walk you through how to flash while S-ON but just remember to use fasboot to flash theboot.img or use 4EXT Recovery and enable Smart Flash.