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Ok. Android phones are not blackberries, and I'm well aware of that. This Thunderbolt is not my first android device, so I am very familiar with setting it up and using it in such a way to make the battery last.
I'm not posting this to complain of the battery life sucking. I'm complaining that the battery is fine one day, and horrible the next.
So here's what happens. Yesterday, i unplugged my phone at 730am like i do every day. By 3pm with light usage, i was down to 40% or so. Charged it up before I left work, no big deal, lasted the rest of the night.
Today, unplug the phone at 730am, phone is completely dead, as in, won't even boot by 11am. Same apps, same usage, same location, same strong 4G signal, same everything. It has happened multiple times on consecutive days when i was rooted on the stock rom, and still on VirusRom. I just dont get why this happens. I am doing nothing different and my phone either lasts all day, or a few hours. It's getting to the point where I am finding it very hard to rely on this phone when i'm out and about. It makes no sense. Especially if i'm not really using my phone, just checking for texts once in a while, there is no reason why it should die. What if i need it? I couldn't even call or text my gf tonight while I was working because my phone battery was ZERO only a few hours after leaving the house with a 100% charge.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
yesterday I had abnormal drain on my battery. I get 18 - 24 hours on a charge normally, but yesterday I went from 100% to dead in 5 hours. Called VZW and they said it was a documented problem and they were working on it.
IDK, they are pretty good about pushing updates. Also, yesterday I kept dropping out of data. bizzare....
I burned through the extended battery in 9 hours yesterday, really hope they figure out some better power management soon,
Switch it to 3G cdma rev.a and see if that helps. The 4G radio is always being searched for. I love the tb so I can deal with no 4G til they get the bugs out.
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You have to use current widget and see how much power draw your phone is pulling. Then use system panel monitoring to track apps using the highest CPU.
Definitely an issue and I'm glad that Verizon is aware of it. I've had this unusual drain happen four times now, all on 4G. Last time I noticed it (seeing the battery percentage drop like 2% every five minutes or so), went to the Market and snagged System Panel.
The offending process is "system." Had my CPU spiked at 100% for over an hour before I rebooted, which does fix it, at the cost of another 10% of your battery, of course.
Hope they get this ironed out soon. Love my Thunderbolt, but this is a major issue and seems to be happening to a lot of people.
The best thing to do is dial *#*#4636#*#* and turn the radio to CDMA auto (PRL) mode.
I am already seeing much better battery life, as I am in a non 4g area.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll have to give that a try. I got into the radio settings, and after flashing VirusRom, my phone defaulted to LTE mode only. I put it to cdma/lte auto, to see if that helps. If not, i'll just disable LTE unless i really need it.
No need to dial all of that crap. TeamAndIRC has a toggle app called "LTE OnOFF TeamAndIRC" that allows you to toggle between CDMA and CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto.
I found out two things dealing with my massive nighttime battery drain. One, wifi doesn't seem to work correctly. I've never had the problem before but for some reason it doesn't sleep correctly. What I've done is changed the sleep policy to "15 minutes" which allows it to switch back to 3G fifteen minutes after I turn off the screen. That allows me to have wifi while I'm using it but 3G while it's idle. This has seemed to fix my problem along with... Second, I am on the fringe of 4G/3G here on the outskirts of Cincinnati. At work I am solid 4G but at home it can't make up it's mind. Well, that has certainly played into the battery issue as it is constantly searching. So, what I do is as I walk in the door from work I use the app listed above to switch to "CDMA auto (PRL)" and it sticks to 3G. When I get to work I switch to "CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto".
So, to summarize:
I have eliminated my nightime drain by doing two things:
1) I use the Y5 app to automatically start wifi as I walk in the door but have changed the sleep policy to "after 15 minutes".
2) I use the app above to switch from 4G/3G auto to 3G only.
ridobe said:
No need to dial all of that crap. TeamAndIRC has a toggle app called "LTE OnOFF TeamAndIRC" that allows you to toggle between CDMA and CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto.
I found out two things dealing with my massive nighttime battery drain. One, wifi doesn't seem to work correctly. I've never had the problem before but for some reason it doesn't sleep correctly. What I've done is changed the sleep policy to "15 minutes" which allows it to switch back to 3G fifteen minutes after I turn off the screen. That allows me to have wifi while I'm using it but 3G while it's idle. This has seemed to fix my problem along with... Second, I am on the fringe of 4G/3G here on the outskirts of Cincinnati. At work I am solid 4G but at home it can't make up it's mind. Well, that has certainly played into the battery issue as it is constantly searching. So, what I do is as I walk in the door from work I use the app listed above to switch to "CDMA auto (PRL)" and it sticks to 3G. When I get to work I switch to "CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto".
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I have eliminated my nightime drain by doing two things:
1) I use the Y5 app to automatically start wifi as I walk in the door but have changed the sleep policy to "after 15 minutes".
2) I use the app above to switch from 4G/3G auto to 3G only.
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LTEonoff is just a shortcut to the menu. In essence, it saves no time because you have to download it. If you're flipping it on and off all the time, then yeah, it might behoove you to just dl the app. But, as a one time thing, it's unnecessary.
^You are correct. I switch daily but I didn't see earlier that you were not in a 4G area.
I would highly suggest this to anyone who sees their data connection switch back and forth as I was in my house.
Battery life has been strong the past couple days now. I haven't had any unusual drains since i switched from LTE only mode to EVDO/LTE auto mode. I dont know if this was for sure the issue, but it seems to have made a huge difference. I haven't been plugged in for 2 hours and i still have 92% battery left.
Here's my interpretation of the issue:
There seems to be some kind of problem or bug with the radio which makes it drain an enormous amount of power from some towers (700mA+ is shown on current widget). Even with good signal, I'll repeatably drain a lot of power in certain areas. The "fix" is to disable mobile data or switch to wifi. This lowers the power usage back down to (slightly lower than) normal levels.
For some reason, the radio will not admit to drawing practically 90% of your battery in the battery use menu (nothing does, in fact ... it just looks like normal battery use).
I'm glad to hear that they are aware of an issue that maybe causing this.
I can't stand the battery life either other than that I love the phone
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Yeah i'm still at 83% battery after being unplugged for 4 hours, light usage.
Another thing i noticed is that when my battery was draining stupid fast, the phone would be warm to the touch even when it was just sitting on my belt clip. All seems well for now.
Mine is good
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My battery life has recently become terribly inconsistent. Last week I was actually getting through a 16 hour day with light usage, but this weekened I must have installed something because now the phone is lasting 3-4 hours with hardly any usage at all.
The battery information is pretty worthless because it's not showing anything except display using the battery and the display has only been on maybe 8 minutes.
Checked the partial wake info and nothing seems to be running in the background. The battery is just discharging like crazy all of a sudden. Guess Ill start uninstalling stuff to see what might be causing it
I am also having a weird battery experience today. I am rooted running Adrynalyne 1.9. Last few days I was doing great, moderate usage and was staying charged for 16-18 hrs. Today my phone has died twice during my 8hr shift at work. I KNOW something is wrong there. Hopefully a fix is found soon.
On all my Androids (4 of them currently in daily use), I've found that Words With Friends is often a HUGE battery killer...and I don't mean because you play it a lot, I mean leave it running and put your phone down, walk away a while, come back to the phone and it is HOT to the touch! Obviously killing the battery. Something to look at for sure.
I've got the extended battery and just went over 48 hours, with moderate to heavy use by my standards on a single charge. Pretty amazing and I guess I'm not in a bad radio area.
hammer4203 said:
Switch it to 3G cdma rev.a and see if that helps. The 4G radio is always being searched for. I love the tb so I can deal with no 4G til they get the bugs out.
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The only thing I love about the TB is the 4G...everything else on it, been there, done that. I wouldn't keep the TB if 4G had to be turned off to make it usable in terms of battery life. Hopefully it will be fixed quickly!
Zshazz said:
Here's my interpretation of the issue:
There seems to be some kind of problem or bug with the radio which makes it drain an enormous amount of power from some towers (700mA+ is shown on current widget). Even with good signal, I'll repeatably drain a lot of power in certain areas. The "fix" is to disable mobile data or switch to wifi. This lowers the power usage back down to (slightly lower than) normal levels.
For some reason, the radio will not admit to drawing practically 90% of your battery in the battery use menu (nothing does, in fact ... it just looks like normal battery use).
I'm glad to hear that they are aware of an issue that maybe causing this.
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Thanks for that analysis. With that in mind, if it's accurate, could a Tasker app profile be set up that does your fix if the drain works that high? Would be a nice safety feature for those who aren't willing to have to look at their phone frequently to check battery life.
You have to use the current widget to record your idle power readings, its the only way to know what's going on. Then use system panel monitoring to see which app CPU is highest.
SHi all, I'm on at&t, no rooting or anything, in NYC and ive been experiencing really odd battery drain in the past day. Ive had my phone for roughly a week now. Ive been searching these forums for battery saving tips since day one so yes, I turned off auto brightness, etc. This drain just happened while I'm on WiFi, Ive had 'mobile network' off since I woke up too. The only odd thing is that my mobile network signal is always in yellow, never in green. (im in an LTE area) could that probably be the reason for the battery drain, even though I turned 'mobile network' off?
I'm posting from my one x right now so I can't upload a pic of my screen. Probably just gonna upload to imgur and post the link here later..
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Screen on time is 1h 8 minutes, taking 63%
Internet is 22 minutes, taking 20%
^ this was all taken just now, it's at 64% right now
Perhaps you could try a hard reset. I was having issues unrelated to yours with a brand new AT&T OX but a hard reset solved them. It's annoying that I had to do this considering I only owned the phone for 2 days, but at least it's working now.
I can go 16+ hours with WiFi on and no power-save features enabled so if a hard reset doesn't work, then maybe you should exchange it for a new one.
P.S.You can take a screenshot by holding the power+home buttons.
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SHi all, I'm on at&t, no rooting or anything, in NYC and ive been experiencing really odd battery drain in the past day. Ive had my phone for roughly a week now. Ive been searching these forums for battery saving tips since day one so yes, I turned off auto brightness, etc. This drain just happened while I'm on WiFi, Ive had 'mobile network' off since I woke up too. The only odd thing is that my mobile network signal is always in yellow, never in green. (im in an LTE area) could that probably be the reason for the battery drain, even though I turned 'mobile network' off?
I'm posting from my one x right now so I can't upload a pic of my screen. Probably just gonna upload to imgur and post the link here later..
Edit: can't add links lol.
Screen on time is 1h 8 minutes, taking 63%
Internet is 22 minutes, taking 20%
^ this was all taken just now, it's at 64% right now
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Are you on stock?
What apps do you have installed.. There's probably some hidden rogue killing your battery
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There's probably some hidden rogue killing your battery
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install better battery stats to find out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
It's probably an app that you downloaded. I had a similar issue where my battery would be sapped very quickly. Turns out that an app called "Line" was actively keeping my phone in a wake status which killed my battery. If there is nothing physically wrong with the phone, you'll have to troubleshoot your apps one by one.
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It's probably an app that you downloaded. I had a similar issue where my battery would be sapped very quickly. Turns out that an app called "Line" was actively keeping my phone in a wake status which killed my battery. If there is nothing physically wrong with the phone, you'll have to troubleshoot your apps one by one.
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no you don't just flash Better Battery Stats and it'll do the work for you...:silly:
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no you don't just flash Better Battery Stats and it'll do the work for you...:silly:
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Lol, well I guess my suggestion was a little extreme.
Hi, thanks for all the responses - think i may have to do a hard reset. The longest my battery has ever went was probably 13 hours with normal usage and i'm a typical person so it's not like my normal usage is being on it all the time. My screen time is always a lot lower(1 hour to 1 hr 30) than everyone elses' in this board yet i still have lower battery AND i'm on stock.
i don't have any obscure apps really, just angry birds, dropbox, groupme, groupon, netflix, word search. i will still try to see if any app is sapping my battery.
right now i'm at 88% at 1 hr 30 min on battery. this is off only 8 minutes of internet, and the rest just idling with the screen off. Is that normal for everyone?
You ask questions and look for advice but it seems that you refuse to accept answers and heed suggestions.
Again: better battery stats main function is to give you a very detailed overview of your battery usage and what keeps your phone awake or wakes it up (ie wakelocks) So go read that thread and install the app and it'll answer all your queries. Amen
Has anyone else experienced any issues like this? Over the past week my Nexus 5 has been going through about 60% battery over night. In the past I would at most use 5-7%. I posted a couple pictures of my battery usage. I live in an area where my signal is always LTE and usually 1-3 bars. I do not have any new apps, location, gps and pretty much all google services SHOULD be off...
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Has anyone else experienced any issues like this? Over the past week my Nexus 5 has been going through about 60% battery over night. In the past I would at most use 5-7%. I posted a couple pictures of my battery usage. I live in an area where my signal is always LTE and usually 1-3 bars. I do not have any new apps, location, gps and pretty much all google services SHOULD be off...
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If you tap on the graph itself you'll be able to see if the phone was awake frequently or if it was losing signal, etc...
If you're seeing that the phone was awake often, try BetterBatteryStats to see what is keeping your phone awake.
Wakelock Detector is another app to try and pin down the problem.
Also, maybe try wifi overnight instead of LTE to see if that might be the issue.
its your signal quality killing your battery. you have phone idle and cell standby taking most your battery.
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its your signal quality killing your battery. you have phone idle and cell standby taking most your battery.
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I guess, but I dont know why all of a sudden it is doing it. My cell signal has remained the same at home since I got the phone in January. Unless for whatever reason it is dropping out all night...
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I guess, but I dont know why all of a sudden it is doing it. My cell signal has remained the same at home since I got the phone in January. Unless for whatever reason it is dropping out all night...
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What is especially strange is it appears you're on WiFi, and yet both the voice and data connection seem to be causing the largest drain here.
Tap the graph so we can get an idea of what the awake times and signal strength was like.
I have a similar gripe and I pinned mine down to stupid photos uploading overnight via wifi and a bunch of other wifi related crap....pretty much network things causing battery drain. also the auto update's killing it for google play stuff.
I found that switching to dalvik and back to ART [which i was on] helped a bit though i supposed there's a process running somewhere in the background that's buggy...here's hoping 4.4.x fixes it
Switch to ART cleared it for me
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Has anyone else experienced any issues like this? Over the past week my Nexus 5 has been going through about 60% battery over night. In the past I would at most use 5-7%. I posted a couple pictures of my battery usage. I live in an area where my signal is always LTE and usually 1-3 bars. I do not have any new apps, location, gps and pretty much all google services SHOULD be off...
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I also saw the same. Turning off functions, etc. had no effect, but switching form Dalvik to ART did. I'm guessing that the change probably cleared something in the OS that was actually causing the problem. Note that the reported sources of battery usage are almost the same in both images, even though battery usage rate is vastly different.
I've attached two screen shots before and after the runtime switch. The red arrow on the before image is when I made the runtime change.
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I also saw the same. Turning off functions, etc. had no effect, but switching form Dalvik to ART did. I'm guessing that the change probably cleared something in the OS that was actually causing the problem. Note that the reported sources of battery usage are almost the same in both images, even though battery usage rate is vastly different.
I've attached two screen shots before and after the runtime switch. The red arrow on the before image is when I made the runtime change.
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This is a shot from last night. I went to bed with about 50% battery life and woke up with a dead phone. Looks like cell signal maybe...
I am already using ART, but maybe I should switch back to dalvik and back to art like someone suggested earlier.
I've noticed more battery drain as well as reduced cell signal. My phone is losing connection in areas where I'd previously have 1-2 bars. I was thinking T-Mobile was changing things on their towers, but I'm starting to see other Nexus 5 owners complaining about it as well. Did they update something in the background on our phones?
You REALLY need to get Gsam and take some screens from it after a night. The stock battery usage screen shots say very little of use.
Otherwise we're are all just guessing here.
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I am already using ART, but maybe I should switch back to dalvik and back to art like someone suggested earlier.
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It's worth a shot, and I, for one, am curious to see if it helps.
FWIW, I just noticed that my battery usage is increasing significantly again. So, I may try the same thing if it persists.
I'd say there is definitely a bug somewhere, possibly interacting with an app or a subset of apps. Are you using Tasker, by any chance?
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You REALLY need to get Gsam and take some screens from it after a night. The stock battery usage screen shots say very little of use.Otherwise we're are all just guessing here.
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Good point.
As I noted in my previous post, my phone started chewing battery again yesterday. No evident trigger, battery usage rate just went up abruptly. I recharged the phone and then left it asleep over night. Images below captured this morning.
Mike585 said:
Good point.
As I noted in my previous post, my phone started chewing battery again yesterday. No evident trigger, battery usage rate just went up abruptly. I recharged the phone and then left it asleep over night. Images below captured this morning.
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Obvious culprits are WiFi and radio. Check in gsam (might be too late if you charged) for kernel Wakelocks. Or try wakelock detector app.
You could have a WiFi issue caused by other devices on your network. Would have to search on that for causes and cures. I'm not sure. I only know its been an issue.
And you appear to have no radio signal at all. If you go in to radio screen from main gsam screen, it will tell you your time searching for signal. That can destroy battery life.
It doesn't seem to he an app. Or general held awake time...as you have hardly any.
Putting phone in airplane mode over night would prove its WiFi or radio.
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If a night of airplane mode is no better, then its a rogue app. That you'd need to track down. Process of elimination style.
But its probably either WiFi or radio signal. I guess if you have location service on, it could be adding to the trouble.
Turning off WiFi would show if its WiFi....or radio. But with very poor radio signal....I know you're battery will take a beating anyway.
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Obvious culprits are WiFi and radio. Putting phone in airplane mode over night would prove its WiFi or radio..
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What's puzzling to me is that it was not an issue until a week ago, then converting to ART made it go away temporarily.
My radio signal is poor, but it's always that way at home. I definitely plan to see what airplane mode does. Will report results.
Thanks for your help.
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What's puzzling to me is that it was not an issue until a week ago, then converting to ART made it go away temporarily.
My radio signal is poor, but it's always that way at home. I definitely plan to see what airplane mode does. Will report results.
Thanks for your help.
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These images are from last night. I went to sleep with about 55 percent and woke up with 31%. The screenies are from betterbatterystats. Maybe you guys see something...
Definitely radio in my case
kj2112, you were right on. :good:
Running in airplane mode removes all serious battery drain on my Nexus 5. If I turn WIFI on, there is only minor battery usage. I've installed OpenSignal and will try monitoring radio reception vs. battery drain.
I'm still puzzled by the sudden onset (could be a problem with my nearest tower, I suppose), and the fact that switching from Dalvik to ART dramatically improved battery life for a few days. That's hard to link to the poor cell signal.
I'm still suspicious that there is a software component, that may or may not be interacting with my cell signal strength.
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Based on posts on other forums, I tried excluding LTE from my preferred network types, and my battery usage improved dramatically. If I choose 3G, signal strength is 2-3 bars. 2G gives me 4-5 bars. With LTE I get 0-1 bars - mostly 0. On 2G my battery life is the best I've ever seen
My suspicion is that the sudden change I saw was caused by a change in the way the radio software selects network speed options. It appears that if the preferred network type selected is LTE, the phone now will expend maximum effort continually to connect to LTE, even if there is no useful signal available. Before the change, it's likely that a stronger LTE signal was required before the phone would attempt a connection.
I'm not sure if the OS determines where that set point is located or if it's something the carrier can control. If it's the carrier then maybe the Nexus 5 has a radio that isn't as efficient as other phones, and the current algorithm is pegged to the best case phone.
If anyone knows how to adjust the conditions for attempting to connect to LTE or has any ides about who does control it, I'd definitely like to know. For now, I set my phone to 2G or 3G when I'm in a poor LTE reception area (which with T-Mobile is most of the time). That actually works okay for me, but I doubt it's a solution for everyone.
Hey guys,
I've been battling location related wakelocks from Gnow et al recently and finally came to simply using Xposed and WakeLock Terminator to block those wakelocks (which appears to correct that issue) and instead, immediately after, had audiomix keep my phone awake (despite no video/music/sounds). Upon research, I just keep finding wakelock after wakelock after setting to debug and fix - is there actually any way to get a dependable device? Am I doomed to always hope the night before my meeting is not the night the phone decides it's playing imaginary audio all night?
I love Android, I love the Nexus 5, and I can deal with 1-2% idle burn, I can deal with 4-5 hours SoT, and I can deal with leaving some location related things off. What I ABSOLUTELY cannot deal with is never knowing. For a device I'm paying well into three digits for that's supposed to take notes, make reminders, keep me in touch, and so on, it had DAMN well be able to stay on. I hated the iPhone in many ways, but dependability was something it never failed in - it did always work.
I've tried settings, I've tried debugging battery, I've tried custom ROM and stock ROM, three different kernels (counting stock).
So, tell me, what do I do to be able to count on my phone (without disabling everything enjoyable besides radio)? Please do not flame me for this, but I'm actually losing my patience fast. Any help is appreciated (and yes, I've checked forums, looked up the "improving Nexus 5 battery" posts, and what not - I realize I'll lose battery with High Accuracy location on, I realize WiFi drains it a bit, that's fine. I'm simply talking about fixing the bullsh*t stuff).
Thank you so much in advance.
Well how long does your battery last? And what does your battery stats say you get for usage and screen time?
The whole Android system operates on wakelocks, if you get rid of em all you'll just have a brick. It's the excessive ones that shouldn't be you need to stop
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turbofandude said:
Hey guys,
I've been battling location related wakelocks from Gnow et al recently and finally came to simply using Xposed and WakeLock Terminator to block those wakelocks (which appears to correct that issue) and instead, immediately after, had audiomix keep my phone awake (despite no video/music/sounds). Upon research, I just keep finding wakelock after wakelock after setting to debug and fix - is there actually any way to get a dependable device? Am I doomed to always hope the night before my meeting is not the night the phone decides it's playing imaginary audio all night?
I love Android, I love the Nexus 5, and I can deal with 1-2% idle burn, I can deal with 4-5 hours SoT, and I can deal with leaving some location related things off. What I ABSOLUTELY cannot deal with is never knowing. For a device I'm paying well into three digits for that's supposed to take notes, make reminders, keep me in touch, and so on, it had DAMN well be able to stay on. I hated the iPhone in many ways, but dependability was something it never failed in - it did always work.
I've tried settings, I've tried debugging battery, I've tried custom ROM and stock ROM, three different kernels (counting stock).
So, tell me, what do I do to be able to count on my phone (without disabling everything enjoyable besides radio)? Please do not flame me for this, but I'm actually losing my patience fast. Any help is appreciated (and yes, I've checked forums, looked up the "improving Nexus 5 battery" posts, and what not - I realize I'll lose battery with High Accuracy location on, I realize WiFi drains it a bit, that's fine. I'm simply talking about fixing the bullsh*t stuff).
Thank you so much in advance.
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Sounds to me like you're too much into finding a problem
Audio Mix is actually a number of things, not just songs playing or Spotify etc. how long does your battery last ? i don't even touch wake locks or battery saving apps and i get a consistent 3:30 hours screen on time with 14 hours standby
Thats with a usage of :
Chrome
whatsapp
facebook
youtube
twitter
Google Now on
Location high accuracy
tasker - checking network location
" ok google" everywhere
manual brightness
mix of wifi/3g
etc
You mentioned a lot of wakelocks and didn't actually mention the sort of battery life you're getting
You may be right about the finding a problem thing. I'm probably a bit paranoid now, but I do get between 6-15% burn per out SoT and seemingly indefinite idle (Carbon + ElementalX is nice) when it's working like expected - it's just the inconsistency that drives me insane. If it was ALWAYS 2%/hour idle burn, I could learn to deal with that. It's just when I go to bed with it at 30-40% and wake up with it dead that I can't afford to have happen.
Read post one and 2 for tips.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785128
turbofandude said:
You may be right about the finding a problem thing. I'm probably a bit paranoid now, but I do get between 6-15% burn per out SoT and seemingly indefinite idle (Carbon + ElementalX is nice) when it's working like expected - it's just the inconsistency that drives me insane. If it was ALWAYS 2%/hour idle burn, I could learn to deal with that. It's just when I go to bed with it at 30-40% and wake up with it dead that I can't afford to have happen.
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It's difficult to be consistent all the time with a phone, the radio in a bad area can kill your battery just as you mentioned... That being said 40% overnight is insane
I seem to have fixed the wakelock by removing DSP Manager and blocking location wakelocks. I'm a little OCD with technology... lol
AudioMixIn? That's the OK Google hotword detection feature.
Battery has been consistent for me. The only time it isn't is when I'm in an area with weak signal and trying to use data, then power usage can go up 10x as high as normal even just idling. Otherwise, I always know what to expect but I have turned paired down the features that tend to drain uncontrollably when the phone isn't even being used such as WiFi Locations and Auto Syncs.
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I go to bed with it at 30-40% and wake up with it dead that I can't afford to have happen.
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That shouldn't ever happen (never has for me), but if you want it to be full in the morning it's best to plug it in.
I wish battery threads would die a long, slow painful death.
If battery threads had a human form, I'd torture them like Theon in GOT.
The answer? Every device is different. No battery life from one user will be replicated by another user.
BOTTOM LINE.
There are too many various factors for battery to remain consistent as others have stated. The only thing you can do is attempt to be resourceful and your battery life should remain decent to high all the time.
Lower brightness, disable unneeded features, uninstall non-used apps, use Greenify on Facebook/Kik, use 2G radio when not connected to WiFi if you can deal with it.
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I have received my P6a yesterday..
And I can feel device getting warm with normal use like WhatsApp, Phone call & Instagram...
Can feel device getting warm even when I'm using Wi-Fi..
It starts heating(because it's more than just warm) when charging...
Any fix or suggestion is welcomed..
CYB3R0ID694 said:
I have received my P6a yesterday..
And I can feel device getting warm with normal use like WhatsApp, Phone call & Instagram...
Can feel device getting warm even when I'm using Wi-Fi..
It starts heating(because it's more than just warm) when charging...
Any fix or suggestion is welcomed..
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When my Pixel 4 XL overheated, it was usually because I was charging and playing games on it at the same time. If it gets hot, then I would reboot it or leave it powered off for a minute. Could that be the case here?
Also, this is a new phone and you just installed a bunch of apps. My guess is that Android is likely evaluating and learning your habits so that it can optimize your battery and other stuff -- so there's alot of internal processing going on causing it to warm up.
Also, if you live in a city where the weather is warm or hot, then that'll make your phone warm or hot as well. So far, my 6a hasn't stayed warm very long except when I was transferring over/installing all my apps ... and it hasn't gotten hot yet.
The phone does get very warm, but it is also the middle of summer and we just set everything up. Tensor is also known for running on the toasty side. Unless your phone is warning you about excessive heat, it is within normal parameters.
it runs definitely warmer than a pixel 4 doing the same stuff.
I have sensor genius installed so it's logging temp 24/7. please do the same and let's share the graphs.
Mine is running substantially cooler using LTE rather than 5g, hopefully this is fixed through software updates.
I also put mine in LTE mode and it's much cooler. 5G is a bit overkill for mobile stuff at least for me, I just turn it on when using hotspot.
Ok, finally experienced the heating issue just doing normal browsing on LTE. Battery temp got up to around 43c on a cool day with no sunlight.
After some searching I found that turning off adaptive connectivity helps. After turning that off, temps are much better. I was in an area with poor signal so that likely was a part of it, but something else to try.
ctfrommn said:
Ok, finally experienced the heating issue just doing normal browsing on LTE. Battery temp got up to around 43c on a cool day with no sunlight.
After some searching I found that turning off adaptive connectivity helps. After turning that off, temps are much better. I was in an area with poor signal so that likely was a part of it, but something else to try.
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Another option to try is Disable Adaptive Battery, Disable 5G(If not necessary)..
I wouldn't worry too much. I absolutely assassinated my Pixel 3a XL. It was always hot. For couple of years. Huge amounts of onscreen time. Leaving it under blankets while charging on accident etc etc... Thing was fine. Also, a battery is only $12 and these pixels the easiest phones to open if you do somehow end up with severely reduced battery life couple years down the road
It's more the insane battery drain that goes along with the heat then the heat itself.
May be a CPU usage app that tracks what's taking up so much processor power.
My issue went away once I turned off adaptive connectivity.
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My issue went away once I turned off adaptive connectivity.
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Same. As in my country there is no 5G yet, I've changed to LTE preferred and phone is not hot anymore and battery doesn't drain.
It'd maybe gimp the overall performance some but u could try under-clocking your CPUs with FKM or EXKM while u track down the issue. (that is, if your bootloader is unlocked...in which case u could use BBS to track battery usage)