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I am getting ready to buy a Xoom. One thing that I have noticed in the world of Android phones, I have the EVO, is there are several different hardware revisions of the same phones as production begins, new orders from carriers brings new manufacturing runs, ect. I have found their to be subtle differences between these revisions, usually all on the inside, but all for the better. Sometimes making a difference in the way a phone is rooted, or whatever.
Does anybody know if there are known revision series and how can I assure myself of getting the newest revision if they exist? What vendor do you think has the freshest supply of Xoom tablets?
Thanks for helping the newb!
Wilson Hines
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Wow, I thought you guys would've jumped all over this topic!
i can't say I know enough to give you a satisfactory answer but I can just say, are you looking for wifi or 3g? Because if your looking for 3g supossedly sales haven't been that good so they're may not be any revisions if the first batch is still sitting around. If wifi sales are better than maybe there is some variety in the models.
But in all honesty I am just guessing my @$$ off. I know the 3g did come unsealed from best buy which means they were changing things around up to the last minute...
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i can't say I know enough to give you a satisfactory answer but I can just say, are you looking for wifi or 3g? Because if your looking for 3g supossedly sales haven't been that good so they're may not be any revisions if the first batch is still sitting around. If wifi sales are better than maybe there is some variety in the models.
But in all honesty I am just guessing my @$$ off. I know the 3g did come unsealed from best buy which means they were changing things around up to the last minute...
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Yeah WIFI, and I ended up buying from Amazon. I just placed the order about 10 minutes ago, next day Prime of $3.99 shipping. I figured Amazon would be drilling through their supplies and re-ordering more than just about anybody.
To be honest I doubt there are hardware revisions beyond the obvious ones (Wifi US, Wifi Europe and carrier 3g versions).
Ordering from Amazon was likely wise as they will have the greatest wifi only turnover so the device you get will likely be from the second or third production runs (any after the first will be less likely to have defects).
Beyond that the only advice is to be aware of where your Xoom comes from. I was careful to make sure the company I bought from had imported the us wifi models so I could get the 3.1 update out of the box.
Beyond that, enjoy your Xoom. I think you will love it.
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I bought mine aweek ago and it came with 3.1 out the box I got it from best buy they only had 3 left.
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I bought mine aweek ago and it came with 3.1 out the box I got it from best buy they only had 3 left.
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OK, just opened mine up and installed some mess and goofing around. Mine just downloaded the 3.1 update.
Wilson Hines
HTC EVO 2.2
Motorola Xoom 3.1
Congratulations....welcome aboard.
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Great enjoy
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Long story short: broke my Sidekick, need a new phone.
the only phones I'm interested in is another Sidekick ($380), or a mytouch 4g slide (at least $500). problem is, even though my contract has run only a few months, it's actually cheaper to pay the cancellation fee (max $200) and switch to another provider than to buy a new phone unsubsidized, which afaik, is all t-mobile will allow. (kind of a screwed up business model, huh?)
so since its almost black friday in 6 hours or so,, does anyone know of a good sale on either Mytouch 4g slide, or even the Sidekick?
May want to check t mobiles website. You can always buy a refurbished phone as well.
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You would probably be better off buying the phone off ebay or Amazon, because they're a lot cheaper than buying them from TMobile
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You would probably be better off buying the phone off ebay or Amazon, because they're a lot cheaper than buying them from TMobile
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Bought mine when T-Mobile had their smartphone sale two months ago.
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Bought mine when T-Mobile had their smartphone sale two months ago.
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Cool story.
Just buy a Droid RAZR with Verizon off Amazon, 1 cent.
Should always pay the insurance fee....the 100 or so deductible is better than 500 to replace a phone....
Tmo commercials said something about black Friday deals on smartphones, check it out
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I got mine on Craigslist back in October for $325, new. Check there?
thanks for the suggestions guys, but the only good deal I found at all was for the Samsung Transform Ultra, on Boost Mobile. so I went for that, I think I'll be pretty happy to finally have real stock android rather than a Sense/Touchwiz infection.
I did look for deals on tmobile phones, but they were all for new contracts and upgrades ONLY. I even got on the customer service line twice and explained to them that 1. I could not keep using the broken phone, and 2. the ONLY adequate replacements are twice the cost of cancelling; they did not seem to have a contingency for this. oh well, their loss. my new phone, of course, will have a protection plan, but still, Tmobile really should rethink their replacement system.
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thanks for the suggestions guys, but the only good deal I found at all was for the Samsung Transform Ultra, on Boost Mobile. so I went for that, I think I'll be pretty happy to finally have real stock android rather than a Sense/Touchwiz infection.
I did look for deals on tmobile phones, but they were all for new contracts and upgrades ONLY. I even got on the customer service line twice and explained to them that 1. I could not keep using the broken phone, and 2. the ONLY adequate replacements are twice the cost of cancelling; they did not seem to have a contingency for this. oh well, their loss. my new phone, of course, will have a protection plan, but still, Tmobile really should rethink their replacement system.
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It's called $7 insurance, i have it i have replaced 5 G2's, 2 MyTouch 4G, and MyTouch 4G Slide is what im on now courtesy of them cancelling the G2, then they replaced it with a MyTouch 4G, then the MT4GS
I guess im treated well, maybe its luck, but im sorry you couldn't get a good deal on a phone. Enjoy your Samsung
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Cool story.
Just buy a Droid RAZR with Verizon off Amazon, 1 cent.
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Then exchange for the galaxy nexus..
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My oh my, I have the original Transform and it makes me want to slap the creator with the device. WHAT AN INFERIOR DEVICE? This is also my FIRST Android, so its not a happy welcoming. Tell me how it goes with the Ultra, I want to see if I break my phone, I'll get an Ultra xD
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shady503403 said:
Then exchange for the galaxy nexus..
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It has not released yet, December 8th is probably when it goes out.
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androidrockz said:
It has not released yet, December 8th is probably when it goes out.
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U can exchange a phone with Verizon until like Jan 23 or somethin
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U can exchange a phone with Verizon until like Jan 23 or somethin
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Its 30 days. If you get it at release you have to Jan 8th to exchange.
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androidrockz said:
Its 30 days. If you get it at release you have to Jan 8th to exchange.
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No Verizon has some special return policy for the holidays
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No Verizon has some special return policy for the holidays
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For low end phones...
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Just sell your cell phone contract to a third party.
well now that i'm on Boost, I've been noticing that If I started a new contract with Tmobile under the current black friday weekend deals, I could get this or several other phones free and then actually recoup some of the money I just spent, provided I return the Boost phone I just bought. so:
in general, how good is this phone? I noticed it seemed smooth and lagless in store, but of course that's just a store model without a bunch of additional apps from the market. I'm mostly wondering if Sense causes problems at all regarding compatibility with any apps, or stability problems that wouldn't be expected to happen on a stock 2.3 rom. I have a stock 2.3 phone now, so that could be a risky change; however, this phone I have is only $230 new, single core, and is known for a screen sensitivity problem that may get worse on my handset, but may not.
also, could I expect any problems or side effects from rooting? one of my goals in that, if I get the MT4GS, will be to quickly turn the "genius" button into a search button. that cause problems for anyone? I did the same thing on the Sidekick, and sometimes it worked, sometimes not. but it may have just been that particular phone.
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well now that i'm on Boost, I've been noticing that If I started a new contract with Tmobile under the current black friday weekend deals, I could get this or several other phones free and then actually recoup some of the money I just spent, provided I return the Boost phone I just bought. so:
in general, how good is this phone? I noticed it seemed smooth and lagless in store, but of course that's just a store model without a bunch of additional apps from the market. I'm mostly wondering if Sense causes problems at all regarding compatibility with any apps, or stability problems that wouldn't be expected to happen on a stock 2.3 rom. I have a stock 2.3 phone now, so that could be a risky change; however, this phone I have is only $230 new, single core, and is known for a screen sensitivity problem that may get worse on my handset, but may not.
also, could I expect any problems or side effects from rooting? one of my goals in that, if I get the MT4GS, will be to quickly turn the "genius" button into a search button. that cause problems for anyone? I did the same thing on the Sidekick, and sometimes it worked, sometimes not. but it may have just been that particular phone.
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In your experience does the phone lag? Struggle to do simple tasks?
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I love Android, and especially the community that every device has.
I currently have an Epic 4G Touch (Sprint's GSII) and I have never owned a tablet.
This Thanksgiving break I visited my cousins and lo behold, practically all of them had an iPad 2. It was a very convenient thing to have around, I never really saw a tablet as a useful item. But I see that tablets are really neat now, it's like a phone, but bigger and not as heavy and clunky as a laptop.
And with today's web based world, it's really convenient to have a tablet on your coffee table to just use when chatting with friends, family gatherings or just watching tv and you need to look up something on the web. Or a device to watch Netflix or Hulu on, but your phone's screen is just too small and it's weird to hold it. Blah blah, useful features could go on.
Anyways, I missed the BestBuy sale for $250 unfortunately, and Gamestop is sold out for $300. But on Craiglist, a lot of folks are selling them for $330 unopened because they are bastards and bought them during black friday to make a profit.
I know the Transformer Prime is coming out on 12/8 for $500 but I simply can't afford that. Do you guys think that the regular Transformer will drop down in Price after the Prime comes out?
So I am left with multiple dilemmas:
1. Buy brand new for $330 off craiglist
2. Wait for possible price drop
3. 3D monitor + nVidia 3D vision kit
4. Solid State Drive
When I look into Android products I look into the modding community for the device on XDA, and it looks like the Eee pad has the best one.
So, should I get one or no?
If you could provide me with a link to buy one for under $300, I will buy it without hesitation.
Thank you
I can't give you a link, but I will tell you that you will certainly love your Eee Pad. Keep looking. This week has a lot of good internet deals. You're bound to find something. Otherwise offer someone on craigslist around $315 and see if they bite. Even at $330, its still a great value.
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As an owner of a transformer I can personally say that it's a great device. It does everything for me (including the stuff you listed) and i'm not sure how much a performance boost the quad core will actually bring (to me i think the tegra 3 is an overkill in processor power).
I recall asus saying that when the transformer prime is released, the old transformer price will drop to 250 and 350 for the 16 and 32gb models (respectively). Don't quote me on this though.
However, if your interested in the dev/modding of the transformer you may be disappointed. I believe all the models you'll find in the stores today will have a locked kernel which means you can't root the device (until the xda dev's figure a way out)
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However, if your interested in the dev/modding of the transformer you may be disappointed. I believe all the models you'll find in the stores today will have a locked kernel which means you can't root the device (until the xda dev's figure a way out)
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What really? No way...
If I can't root it that's a deal breaker right there
edit: well im doing some current browsing on the forum and no where does it mention that some models can't be rooted.
In fact there's a one click root for all models in the dev section
New models can be rooted now. There is a link in the dev section somewhere. If you can wait untill the Prime comes out I will have 2 32gb for sale. Already rooted, with or without docks. In fact when the Prime comes out like the other poster said I bet you can get a good deal. I was planning on selling mine for 300 without dock when the time comes.
Edit: Post for rooting all versions is in dev section look for "razorclaw"
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If you are still interested I am selling mine with keyboard and boxes for both already rooted (running Revolver) for $400 + shipping. Not a scratch on the tablet or keyboard. Just bought the keyboard a couple of weeks ago to replace a defective one.
PM if interested.
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ifly4vamerica said:
New models can be rooted now. There is a link in the dev section somewhere. If you can wait untill the Prime comes out I will have 2 32gb for sale. Already rooted, with or without docks. In fact when the Prime comes out like the other poster said I bet you can get a good deal. I was planning on selling mine for 300 without dock when the time comes.
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Ooo!
Well since you got two, and the Prime comes out in a week or so, why not C.O.D. one of those babies to my location ?
$300 is a deal.
I can personally tell you the new ones can be rooted VERY EASILY using razorclaw with one click. It took less than a second... I have a B90 and I bought it this week. Rooted, custom rom, cwm, and overclocked.
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If you buy a transformer retail you can always get a price adjustment if it does drop. Bestbuy extended their return policy for 60 days during christmas. Just an idea.
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Save your money and go to Best Buy and price match it with Game Stop for $299. I just bought the wife one for Christmas.
There will be a lot of these for sale as people trade up to the Prime, however I would be very cautious of the Craig's list ones advertised as new in box. They are more likely to be used with the box. The same thing happened when the current transformer replaced the Viewsonic Gtab. Once the prime comes out, you should be able to get a good used TF for $250 or so with some acc.
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Ooo!
Well since you got two, and the Prime comes out in a week or so, why not C.O.D. one of those babies to my location ?
$300 is a deal.
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Ha! I would take you up on that but the second one is technically the other halfs. It does however have a sweet purple and pink flower theme on it.
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Save your money and go to Best Buy and price match it with Game Stop for $299. I just bought the wife one for Christmas.
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How do i go about price matching when gamestop is sold out online?
Would they just be like even if you wanted the gamestop one, you couldnt cause its sold out.
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How do i go about price matching when gamestop is sold out online?
Would they just be like even if you wanted the gamestop one, you couldnt cause its sold out.
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No, as long as it's a current advertised price they should match it, in stock or not.
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I just called the best buy in my town and they said it had to be in stock in the store in our town too. So no deal on that. Luckily I snagged one last night from bhphotovideo for 344. Hopefully they don't get too cheap any time soon. They are selling out almost everywhere though.
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You should be able to find one for $300. I bought one (excellent condition, barely used) last week with dock for $350 and there seem to be a few at around 320 without dock. Wait a week or so, people who have it at 320+ will not end up selling them anyway and when the prime comes out they'll go in the 250-300 range pretty quickly.
Best buy models are tf101-x1 and everywhere else they are the original tf101-a1. Best buy did this to prevent price matching the device because Walmart and others sold the a1 model, good luck on price matching
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Just to revisit the original question for a moment, the SSD purchase might be a compelling alternative. It depends how you use the PC you would be putting it in, but they can pretty dramatically speed up a lot of tasks. Disk I/O is quite often the bottle neck in modern systems, and going from a spinning platter and arm to no moving parts could have a dramatic effect. Again though it all depends on how powerful your system is (if it can take full advantage of the IO speed gains), and what types of tasks you use it for.
Of course the flip side of that is: you may end up using your PC a LOT less if you pick up a Transformer, Prime or original. I know I do. Between my blackberry (email, instant messaging) and transformer (web surfing, google reader for rss feeds, and occasional angry birds or similar simple gaming), I barely have to use my laptop any more.
I got mine during black friday at best buy too. I was hestitant at first and wasn't sure about the rooting because of it being a newer and different model but this tablet is amazing. I love the internet, FLASH!, the apps, and the widgets. I hooked up to my tv the other day to show my roomates and they were blown away. I already rooted mine too just need to overclock it. This is is my first tablet and android device. The camera isn't that great but I did not get it for the camera. I recommend the best buy way. Buy it now and when the prime comes out you can return it to best buy and get the prime.
If I play with the prime and it seems worth it I will probably do that. However, if you want a first generation one there will probably be lots of people selling them on here. Totally worth the black friday mess and being short for rent. Also, if you use your phone as a hot spot with it it's even more amazing. There are plenty of apps to enjoy even without wi-fi and spotify or rdio for music.
I atually do use my laptop less now. Only thing I dont like is the laggyness of the keyboard strokes on this site. I am hoping overclocking will solve it. Dolphin and stock are both fast but I like dolphin the best so far. I'm falling in love with the touch gestures. Made one just for XDA
There are a couple of ways to get it for $299. Call around to the local game stops and see if they have the transformer in stock. When you called best buy you gave too much information.
I have ordered stuff from this place many many times. Never Cell Phones. What are your guys options? They are cheap. Also does anyone know if any of these are being worked on by XPA developers? thanks
http://www.lightinthebox.com/c/android-cell-phones_3309
Never heard of them, quickly glanced at a couple and they seem to be 2-3 year old technology. Plus being they are trying to mimic popular phones I will also assume build quality is as cheap as the price hints at.
Granted I know nothing about these phones so take my opinion with a grain of salt... but I have almost always had less the good experiences with knock off brands from over seas
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These definitely look interesting. Would be cool to get some hands on time. These are probably cheap Chinese phones that are garbage in functionality and build. If you have had good customer service from them and they have a return policy, then give it a try and let us know how it goes.
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rosevilletoyota said:
I have ordered stuff from this place many many times. Never Cell Phones. What are your guys options? They are cheap. Also does anyone know if any of these are being worked on by XPA developers? thanks
http://www.lightinthebox.com/c/android-cell-phones_3309
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They're not cheap for what they are, cheap. If you buy one, you must have the mindset of a professional gambler, that the odds are in favour of the "House", and be prepared to lose everything.
They're not that cheap. You'd do better buying something off Craigslist.
But I did buy my son a Chinese knockoff of a Blackberry, dual SIM, any gsm radio standard in the civilized world, off ebay for $25. Seems pretty robust, nice display, music player, fm radio, works on any gsm mvno. Now that's good value.
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I bought a couple ifauxnes a few years back as a prank... long story... but they appear as if they would be similar build quality to them which was sub par and exactly what I was expectfing. If you are planing on these to be your daily driver I would suggest picking up something else
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These are Chinese phones...not implying that they are bad, it's just I would buy android phones with strong dev support. But interesting find indeed. Do make a review on them soon
There is a knockoff of every popular phone of the last year. Reminds me of the Simpsons going tv shopping. We have all the major brands magnetbox sorny
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Honestly, yes as everybody has mentioned, these seem to be knockoffs of other phones ( such as a the sgs3) and the hardware maybe a little bit behind, but they're cheap and you'll get what you paid for. I've read the reviews and almost all of them have a positive feedback, saying they love it, it's fast, fast shipping blahblahblah.
In the end, its all up to you, if you're looking for a cheap phone that will give you a bang for your buck.
Keep in mind that since it's not big time developers nor manufacturers, don't expect huge support.
As an added note to before, the few android knock off devices I've owned have been easy to root but you need to make your own changes to the kernel/ROM if you want too much more than is there already in android. But there are many auto scripts nowadays that allow you to much of this easy.
Don't expect too much quality hardware wise but for the most part android I'd android and if you're willing o chance it you maybe OK. Up until I got my nexus 7 I used one of a few of the knock off tablets I bought. One of them was real nice for the price, the other three I had to sell on eBay rather quickly as they were subpar
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Looking for something cheap and moddable.
You could look into grabbing yourself a used Xperia X10, or maybe a Motorola Droid 1.
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Looking for something cheap and moddable.
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Go to walmart. They have cheap no contract phones. Android phones are over 50$ though.
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Most of the the cheap no contract phones will have little to no developer support. You will probably be able to root it, but don't expect any ROMs. Alternatively you could get an older phone for $50 that was once more popular and had developer support. As mentioned above, the Droid 1 comes to mind, they are all over ebay for less than $50 and there are tons of ROMs out there for it.
man i bought a fusion 2 from at&t and i still have no support on this
Why dont you look on ebay iv seen xperia x10s and x8s go cheap on there or save up abit more and get a cheap galaxy s2 .
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If you're very lucky, you might be able to find a Nexus One at around that price - a fixer-upper for that, sure, though the good condition ones seem to be going for more like $75+.
The S2 is still a good phone, but will also likely go over budget as well - there are some good "fixer-upper" deals, again, on eBay - phones that need a new screen but are otherwise okay (just check and make sure that model can have just glass replaced since a digitizer would be expensive).
What are you looking for ? What kind of performance do you expect ?
I've seen Samsung Captivate's on eBay go for less than $50 but they weren't in the best condition. You get what you pay for. Although, I recently scored. I bought an S2 for $95 that was soft bricked and I was able to pull it out.
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