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Hey guys,
I got my first real smart phone about a week ago, it was a USC Samsung Mesmerize. Yesterday I stumbled upon rooting when trying to figure out how to remove useless pre installed apps. All I really want is a slim & fast version & to be able to keep my navigation.
I've had experience with flashing; Xbox 360 & PSP's. So I kind of jumped into this and ended up bricking my phone. Or damn close.
From looking at the back of my phone it says Galaxy S, so I went in that section and downloaded/flashed this originally (caused brick):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940671
I did everything up to step 7, except it wouldnt boot past the splash screen.
So then came panic time...
I eventually reflashed with a new rom for the correct phone, This one to be exact:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944671
My question is:
What have I really done now that I run on this rom?
I still cant uninstall preloaded software.
I would be willing to flash a new rom so I can have a faster phone.
But really no one makes it clear enough in there guides about how this process actually works.
my best guess is after I flashed with that rom I will be able to upgrade to a better rom?
What is FROYO EA11?
What is voodoo?
First off, consequences will never be the same...
You are now running a STOCK (leaked) 2.2 ROM, with a stock kernel and USCC App Bloat.
If you want a fast Android 2.2 with stock apps removed, do this:
1. Flash the EA11 + recovery via Odin, following the steps here.
2: Download the EA11 voodoo kernel found here and flash.
3: Boot into recovery and run update.zip (this will push you to a red clockwork recovery)
HINT: If you aren't familiar with clockwork recovery, the controls are slightly different. You use still use the volume buttons to navigate, but the power button is now used to execute selections and the search softkey to go back.
4: select install .zip from sdcard
5: select the voodoo .zip and confirm
This will install the new kernel and replace your recovery (which used to require booting into the Samsung recovery before making your way to the clockwork recovery by installing update.zip from sdcard) with a clockwork recovery that will look identical to the one you had after running update.zip, but can enable your newly acquired lagfix.
6: enable voodoo lagfix, and rejoice!
6: Optionally install the Pick and Pack ROM found here. (I WOULD!)
(Credits to MesmerizeUser for these steps, I copypasta'd and edited.)
Good luck with your back-tracing! Let us know if any steps are unclear.
Also, the payed version of Titanium Backup will let you "freeze" stock apps, so they don't appear in your menus, and they won't run, but you can "thaw" them whenever you like.
PS - FROYO EA11 is a leaked Android 2.2 ROM for the Mesmerize. Google names Android releases after deserts, like Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, etc.
Voodoo is a name of the kernel which changes your EXT2 partition (old school) to EXT4 (new school), and makes your file system much faster.
uselessmidget said:
Hey guys,
I got my first real smart phone about a week ago, it was a USC Samsung Mesmerize. Yesterday I stumbled upon rooting when trying to figure out how to remove useless pre installed apps. All I really want is a slim & fast version & to be able to keep my navigation.
I've had experience with flashing; Xbox 360 & PSP's. So I kind of jumped into this and ended up bricking my phone. Or damn close.
From looking at the back of my phone it says Galaxy S, so I went in that section and downloaded this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940671
I did everything up to step 7, except it wouldnt boot past the splash screen.
So then came panic time...
I eventually reflashed with a new rom, This one to be exact:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944671
My question is:
What have I really done now that I run on this rom?
I still cant uninstall preloaded software.
I would be willing to flash a new rom so I can have a faster phone.
But really no one makes it clear enough in there guides about how this process acctually works.
my best guess is after I flashed with that rom I will be able to upgrade?
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OK, first of all, welcome. You've come to the right place to do several things. The first of which is to learn. Don't freak out. You're phone is in good hands here in this forum. Unless you really try hard, you can't do much to actually bork it up so bad that we can't fix it.
So, what you have done up to this point is update your phone to the leaked 2.2 firmware. It's not a ROM, it's actually the full firmware. If you want to remove bloat, the easiest way is to now install my EA11 Pick-n-Pack ROM, which already probably lighter than you want it. The good thing, is that it also has an addons pack that you can download to put anything back on that you want. Everything is there in easily flashable zip files. You just have to look inside if you don't see the actual name of something in particular. (ie. calendar is in SamsungandTouchWiz.zip) Now if you want faster with your new light weight ROM, go with the EA11 Voodoo kernel to help boost you up as well. This isn't a final build, as we don't have source code yet so understand this is just a small improvement on the stock kernel. Now, if you want to get all the way back to stock 2.1, might I suggest this thread to help with that. And for some help getting to know a little about everything, pop over to the irc channel in my signature and talk to anyone that happens to be there. We're here to help. If they don't answer, they've probably stepped away. Some of us hang out there and leave the computer idle while we're doing other things.
Again, welcome aboard. I hope some of that info helped you out.
first off...welcome...second if i would have done that i think i may have left a mess in my pants...but seems like you got it running good again plz trust me when i say listen to phidelt82, he will not give you any wrong advise...because of him and a few others, my phone kicks ass and im actually trying to learn how to make themes and roms (dont know much but learning), so yea...you came to the right place to make your phone truly your (with there software...lol)
Yoder808 said:
First off, consequences will never be the same...
You are now running a STOCK (leaked) 2.2 ROM, with a stock kernel and USCC App Bloat.
If you want a fast Android 2.2 with stock apps removed, do this:
1. Flash the EA11 + recovery via Odin, following the steps here.
2: Download the EA11 voodoo kernel found here and flash.
Voodoo is a name of the kernel which changes your EXT2 partition (old school) to EXT4 (new school), and makes your file system much faster.
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First off thanks for the quick and acurate responses guys.
About what you said here though:
The "kernal" I loaded claims to be EA11 Stock, you are telling me I need EA11 voodoo Kernal, its called voodoo because its modified. -would this statement be correct?
Yoder808 said:
6: Optionally install the Pick and Pack ROM found here. (I WOULD!)
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This would only be used for installing specific preloaded apps, correct?
phidelt82 said:
So, what you have done up to this point is update your phone to the leaked 2.2 firmware. It's not a ROM, it's actually the full firmware. If you want to remove bloat, the easiest way is to now install my EA11 Pick-n-Pack ROM, which already probably lighter than you want it.
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So basically this is a light rom with the ability to add the removed pre-load apps?
phidelt82 said:
Now, if you want to get all the way back to stock 2.1, might I suggest this thread
Again, welcome aboard. I hope some of that info helped you out.
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There most likely is no reason to go back to stock 2.1, correct? My shot in the dark is the reason you would want to is to not get usc on your back and larger selection of stable roms and kernels?
Thanks, you guys f***ing rock.
uselessmidget said:
First off thanks for the quick and acurate responses guys.
About what you said here though:
The "kernal" I loaded claims to be EA11 Stock, you are telling me I need EA11 voodoo Kernal, its called voodoo because its modified. -would this statement be correct?
This would only be used for installing specific preloaded apps, correct?
So basically this is a light rom with the ability to add the removed pre-load apps?
There most likely is no reason to go back to stock 2.1, correct? My shot in the dark is the reason you would want to is to not get usc on your back and larger selection of stable roms and kernels?
Thanks, you guys f***ing rock.
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the voodoo kernel is modified with a lag fix. it will speed up your phone a bit. there is a program in the market called quadrant. run the full benchmark and you will get an idea of how your phone stacks up against others and will also give you a base score for your phone. if you do not have voodoo kernel installed your score will be around 800-900, after voodoo your score will be up around 1500.
the pick-n-pack rom lets you addon via the pnpaddons file, stuff you want on your phone prior to flashing. you pick what you want and flash it.
yes it is "a light rom with the ability to add the removed pre-load apps"
the leaked froyo and the voodoo kernel are very nice, i wouldn't go back to eclair 2.1 unless you needed to return the phone to uscc for whatever reason.
good luck and happy flashing.
Just an update guys, Thanks to phidelt82 I am now running 2.2 PnP w/ Voodoo Kernel.
The diffrence is night and day, used to get slow w/ a little lag every now and then. Now its always fast. Thanks again.
Special_opps said:
run the full benchmark and you will get an idea of how your phone stacks up against others and will also give you a base score for your phone. if you do not have voodoo kernel installed your score will be around 800-900, after voodoo your score will be up around 1500.
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Sweet 1506 here.
and dont forget for roms you may flash... you can not UNINSTALL phone apps..... via the 'manage applications' menu.
you have to use a program like Root Explorer and physically DELETE them from the /system/app folder along with other folders they reside in.
only Cyanogen (i think) allows for uninstalling for actual phone programs.
v_lestat said:
and dont forget for roms you may flash... you can not UNINSTALL phone apps..... via the 'manage applications' menu.
you have to use a program like Root Explorer and physically DELETE them from the /system/app folder along with other folders they reside in.
only Cyanogen (i think) allows for uninstalling for actual phone programs.
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You can also un-install stock apps with Titanium Backup.
Also, it seems like you're rushing into this a little bit.
Relax getting into the dev community is like getting into a slightly chilly pool, you need to ease in.
That said, welcome, and I look forward to seeing you around.
vluhd said:
You can also un-install stock apps with Titanium Backup.
Also, it seems like you're rushing into this a little bit.
Relax getting into the dev community is like getting into a slightly chilly pool, you need to ease in.
That said, welcome, and I look forward to seeing you around.
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That's about the best words of wisdom I've heard... I think that should be posted in huge letters for every new person Registering to the site... And possibly it should flash across their screen until they're 10th post along with the other new Rules!!!
Oh and welcome aboard to OP!!! Hope you enjoy your NEW & Improved phone
Yoder808 said:
Voodoo is a name of the kernel which changes your EXT2 partition (old school) to EXT4 (new school), and makes your file system much faster.
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It takes changes your partitions from RFS to EXT4.
elijahblake said:
That's about the best words of wisdom I've heard... I think that should be posted in huge letters for every new person Registering to the site... And possibly it should flash across their screen until they're 10th post along with the other new Rules!!!
Oh and welcome aboard to OP!!! Hope you enjoy your NEW & Improved phone
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What we should do is edit the top of the post for "Getting your phone back to stock" to say "Don't Panic" in huge blue letters. lol
Yoder808 said:
First off, consequences will never be the same...
You are now running a STOCK (leaked) 2.2 ROM, with a stock kernel and USCC App Bloat.
If you want a fast Android 2.2 with stock apps removed, do this:
1. Flash the EA11 + recovery via Odin, following the steps here.
2: Download the EA11 voodoo kernel found here and flash.
3: Boot into recovery and run update.zip (this will push you to a red clockwork recovery)
HINT: If you aren't familiar with clockwork recovery, the controls are slightly different. You use still use the volume buttons to navigate, but the power button is now used to execute selections and the search softkey to go back.
4: select install .zip from sdcard
5: select the voodoo .zip and confirm
This will install the new kernel and replace your recovery (which used to require booting into the Samsung recovery before making your way to the clockwork recovery by installing update.zip from sdcard) with a clockwork recovery that will look identical to the one you had after running update.zip, but can enable your newly acquired lagfix.
6: enable voodoo lagfix, and rejoice!
6: Optionally install the Pick and Pack ROM found here. (I WOULD!)
(Credits to MesmerizeUser for these steps, I copypasta'd and edited.)
Good luck with your back-tracing! Let us know if any steps are unclear.
Also, the payed version of Titanium Backup will let you "freeze" stock apps, so they don't appear in your menus, and they won't run, but you can "thaw" them whenever you like.
PS - FROYO EA11 is a leaked Android 2.2 ROM for the Mesmerize. Google names Android releases after deserts, like Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, etc.
Voodoo is a name of the kernel which changes your EXT2 partition (old school) to EXT4 (new school), and makes your file system much faster.
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Not to bust your balls but its really rfs not ext2. Ext 2 is faster than ext 4 actually.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Thanks for the help, opinions, arguments over file systems. Good stuff.
Btw is battery life a problem for anyone else? Luckly I have charging availible most of the time. I work as a production manager and starting at 7 by 8:00 the phone is at 89%
no programs running according to task manager, ram cleared, about 4 5mins calls
uselessmidget said:
Thanks for the help, opinions, arguments over file systems. Good stuff.
Btw is battery life a problem for anyone else? Luckly I have charging availible most of the time. I work as a production manager and starting at 7 by 8:00 the phone is at 89%
no programs running according to task manager, ram cleared, about 4 5mins calls
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Some people have had battery issues with 2.2, some haven't.
I personally did, so I flashed back to 2.1
dcow90 said:
It takes changes your partitions from RFS to EXT4.
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Correction noted!
So... believe me, I know I'm an idiot for doing this. When trying to install Voodoo for official 2.2.1 I accidentally flashed the 5.5 for GT-I9000 that I forgot to delete when I was first starting to mess around with attempting to install voodoo, before doing much research.
When I tried to reboot it just sat at the I9000 boot screen forever and started to get hot so I pulled the battery.
I rebooted and came to a screen with lots of error messages from CWM on the bottom of the screen and the stock recovery options at the top.
When I try to reboot it just sits at the I9000 boot screen forever.
I tried reflashing 2.2.1 with ODIN as described in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881064 That doesn't seem to get very far.
<ID:0/007> Added!!
<ID:0/007> Odin v.3 engine (ID:7)..
<ID:0/007> File analysis..
<ID:0/007> All threads complete. (succeed 0 / failed 1)
Did I completely brick my phone or is there some way to get it working again? really desperate here... I don't want to have to go back to my RAZR2 for another year until I can get an upgrade.
Thanks in advance to any golden saint that can help me out!
Never mind, I got ODIN to work (I hastily left out the step loading the tar file) and all seems to be working fine now. Albeit minus a hundred apps or so...
I apologize to anybody who spent time reading this thread.
Fidelis83 said:
Never mind, I got ODIN to work (I hastily left out the step loading the tar file) and all seems to be working fine now. Albeit minus a hundred apps or so...
I apologize to anybody who spent time reading this thread.
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haha glad you got it working. Hope you had titanium for your apps! If not lesson learned! I thought I trashed my phone a few times thank the Devs for Odin! And boot camp for my mac...haha
droidzach said:
haha glad you got it working. Hope you had titanium for your apps! If not lesson learned! I thought I trashed my phone a few times thank the Devs for Odin! And boot camp for my mac...haha
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Yep, got Titanium first thing after I rooted.
A million thanks to phidelt82 for the ODIN writeup!
I also flashed Voodoo5.5 to my Epic! Please Help!
I obviously didn't do my homework and flashed the latest voodoo kernel to my epic. I'm running a Rooted Epic w/ Fyoyo and have clockwork mod. So here's how it went: The kernel flashed (said it installed )and phone returtned to clockwork mod. I rebooted and phone stuck in a boot loop just as yours was. I have to pull the battery to shut the phone off. I can get into clockwork mod....where do I go from here? I have the phone backed up with titanium, which is great if I can get it to boot up. Please Help. Thanks.
Cbisk said:
I obviously didn't do my homework and flashed the latest voodoo kernel to my epic. I'm running a Rooted Epic w/ Fyoyo and have clockwork mod. So here's how it went: The kernel flashed (said it installed )and phone returtned to clockwork mod. I rebooted and phone stuck in a boot loop just as yours was. I have to pull the battery to shut the phone off. I can get into clockwork mod....where do I go from here? I have the phone backed up with titanium, which is great if I can get it to boot up. Please Help. Thanks.
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Flash the correct kernel for your phone, that will fix you up. If you need any more help with that, you should post in the epic forum - since this is the mesmerize forum .
Fidelis83 said:
So... believe me, I know I'm an idiot for doing this. When trying to install Voodoo for official 2.2.1 I accidentally flashed the 5.5 for GT-I9000 that I forgot to delete when I was first starting to mess around with attempting to install voodoo, before doing much research.
When I tried to reboot it just sat at the I9000 boot screen forever and started to get hot so I pulled the battery.
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You were even then a step ahead of me. Until I read this thread, I didn't even know that was the wrong Voodoo, in spite of it saying GT-I9000, I just figured that was the default behavior of Voodoo. XD I would have gone home tonight, maybe tomorrow, and kept beating my head against it, wondering why it wasn't working. XD
The Newbie Guide from bdemartino doesn't seem to specify---which version of Voodoo did you go with, and where did you get it from? The only Froyo Voodoo kernels I can find on the Project-Voodoo site are the 5.5 ones for the GT-I9000.
If you are on an i500 (fascinate, mesmerize, or showcase) you can flash any of the EC10 based kernels in the fascinate forum here on xda. Just remember that if you are on a touchwiz based rom (stock, PnP, etc) you need to make sure you use a touchwiz compatible kernel. Off you are running AOSP you must use an AOSP compatible kernel.
Sent from my voodoo froyo Mesmerize
Like the OP, I too flashed the wrong Voodoo kernel, the one for the GT-I9000. When I flashed it, I got the robot voice, and then it wouldn't complete the boot process.
So I panicked. I followed the instructions in the post titled "Files to get your Mesmerize back to stock 2.1 and 2.2.1", with the exception of disabling lagfix.
Everything seems to be working okay now, with one exception. I can't get the correct Voodoo lagfix working. I can get the kernel installed, but I never get the robot voice for the conversion.
I have BLN working so it seems like voodoo is installed, but my quadrant scores seem to indicate that it is not.
Help?
If that were me, and I'm certainly no expert, I'd start by taking a Titanium backup of all your apps. Next I'd boot into recovery and disable lagfix if you still can; even if the actual lagfix itself isn't working, just turn the setting off. Then I'd try to flash the stock 2.1 (or 2.2.1 as you prefer) with stock kernel and stock recovery, to treat it like a brand new phone (not sure if you did that or grabbed the stock + custom recovery). Then, just start the customization process over from scratch. Finally, once you've got it tweaked, load up Titanium again and bring over all your apps.
That is IF I understand it all correctly; if I'm telling him wrong, someone please chime in and correct, or confirm. XD (jrusch, I might wait till someone can confirm or deny my instructions, but I figured I'd least give you some food for thought)
I just can't get it to work. I disabled lagfix (even though it didn't seem to be running), and then I used Odin to flash the stock 2.2.1.
I tried a few Voodoo kernels (EC10_ulv_voodoo.zip, TW_kernel-0327-2.zip, and ec10_voodoo.zip) all with the same results. They install, I get the goofy startup screen with the flashing "android" in the middle, but no robot voice announcing the conversion process. After installing the Voodoo kernel I verify it creates the Voodoo folder in the root of the phone's memory and on the sdcard and no disable_lagfix folder exists.
jrusch said:
I just can't get it to work. I disabled lagfix (even though it didn't seem to be running), and then I used Odin to flash the stock 2.2.1.
I tried a few Voodoo kernels (EC10_ulv_voodoo.zip, TW_kernel-0327-2.zip, and ec10_voodoo.zip) all with the same results. They install, I get the goofy startup screen with the flashing "android" in the middle, but no robot voice announcing the conversion process. After installing the Voodoo kernel I verify it creates the Voodoo folder in the root of the phone's memory and on the sdcard and no disable_lagfix folder exists.
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I'm pretty sure your system is either still in EXT4 or it thinks it is, and that's why disabling voodoo through CWM isn't doing anything for you - what has worked for me in the past is injecting the empty file named "disable-lagfix" into the clockwork folder on your SD Card, then rebooting. It should then disable it, then I would do a clean odin flash to make sure everything is working properly, then you should be able to pick up where you left off (adding voodoo, custom ROM etc.)
This has happened to me in the past when I've forgotten to disable lagfix and tried using odin to go to stock (this returns your kernel to stock and gives you issues because the internal file system is still formatted in EXT4 but the odin flash tries with the stock RFS format, and that's where the problem occurs.)
I used Root Explorer to create a new file named "disable-lagfix" in the clockework folder and rebooted. I then did a clean odin flash, etc.
I still can't get voodoo lagfix to work. When I boot to recovery (CwM Voodoo Lagfix Recovery v2.5.1.x) the voodoo menu shows:
Voodoo lagfix is actually: disabled
next boot: enabled
But at the next boot it doesn't do the conversion.
jrusch said:
I used Root Explorer to create a new file named "disable-lagfix" in the clockework folder and rebooted. I then did a clean odin flash, etc.
I still can't get voodoo lagfix to work. When I boot to recovery (CwM Voodoo Lagfix Recovery v2.5.1.x) the voodoo menu shows:
Voodoo lagfix is actually: disabled
next boot: enabled
But at the next boot it doesn't do the conversion.
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I don't know if creating the file with root explorer will work, I had to create an empty file in my linux box and renamed to "disable-lagfix" (no quotes) once that file is in the clockwork folder and you reboot you should hear the sound of it being disabled - if you don't hear the voice then something is wrong with the file or where you put it.
right now you're stuck with it enabled, if you have the voodoo control app you can check to see if using the toggle in that app will work, but I'm guessing you're going to have to do it the manual way as stated above.
I still can't get it to work. I created the "disable-lagfix" file on a linux box and then copied the file to the sd card into the clockwork folder. I still can't get lagfix to disable/enable.
When I boot a voodoo_log.txt file is created, does this give any clues:
2011-04-12 13:03:18 model not detected
2011-04-12 13:03:18 manage fat.format in /sbin
2011-04-12 13:03:18 fat.format wrapper installed in /sbin
2011-04-12 13:03:18 fat.format renamed to fat.format.real & symlink created to fat.format_wrapper.sh
2011-04-12 13:03:18 running init !
I was trying to install the Voodoo kernel. I had the stock+froyo one installed just fine using Odin3. Then I went to their main page, and saw the 5.5 version. Titled Voodoo lagfix for Froyo stable. I used Odin to install it from the Download Mode. everything went fine till the voice said something about not enough space on the partition.
Then the T-Mobile pink screen appears, then the Samsung Vibrant S screen, then it goes black. Nothing happens after that except the bottom lights come on if I touch them. Odin3 still sees my phone as plugged in. I have a really hard time trying to get into the Recovery screen, but when I do, I have no idea what to do once I'm there.
I've tried using Odin3+Download Mode to reinstall the stock+voodoo-froyo-t959-UVKA6.tar which worked fine the first time, but I can never get back to the main home screen.
Any advice would be much appreciated, I'll be online for the next few hours refreshing this page, so my responses should be fairly quick. Thank you in advance.
Update: I tried searching for solutions, came across a post in the samsungvibrant.c o m forums with a youtube video.
I followed the instructions, everything worked as intended, until after the S screen, I just got a black screen. Never went to the home screen. This where I am currently at.
rtekbillabong said:
I was trying to install the Voodoo kernel. I had the stock+froyo one installed just fine using Odin3. Then I went to their main page, and saw the 5.5 version. Titled Voodoo lagfix for Froyo stable. I used Odin to install it from the Download Mode. everything went fine till the voice said something about not enough space on the partition.
Then the T-Mobile pink screen appears, then the Samsung Vibrant S screen, then it goes black. Nothing happens after that except the bottom lights come on if I touch them. Odin3 still sees my phone as plugged in. I have a really hard time trying to get into the Recovery screen, but when I do, I have no idea what to do once I'm there.
I've tried using Odin3+Download Mode to reinstall the stock+voodoo-froyo-t959-UVKA6.tar which worked fine the first time, but I can never get back to the main home screen.
Any advice would be much appreciated, I'll be online for the next few hours refreshing this page, so my responses should be fairly quick. Thank you in advance.
Update: I tried searching for solutions, came across a post in the samsungvibrant.c o m forums with a youtube video.
I followed the instructions, everything worked as intended, until after the S screen, I just got a black screen. Never went to the home screen. This where I am currently at.
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WTF? Do you even have a Mes/Showcase?
Sounds like someone didn't check which forum they were in after they Googled.
You probably need to look around in this forum instead.
To all i500 users.... don't go to the project voodoo site looking for voodoo kernels. Those are generic or made just for OTHER phones. Any and all voodoo kernels you flash should be found either in this forum or the fascinate forum. This goes back to the old DO NOT FLASH PACKAGES FROM OTHER PHONES…
just trying to be helpful.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
I have a question regarding Voodoo flashing methods, specifically relating to Odin & CWM. The Voodoo website (which contains the INCORRECT kernels for our I500s, I DID gather that already ) recommends placing the file directly onto the SD card, renaming it "update.zip" and using stock recovery to flash it. I have noticed that this sentiment is not reflected here are all - everyone seems to recommend using CWM Recovery and/or flashing everything with Odin. What gives?
If someone with a stock EC10 ROM just wanted the benefits of the Voodoo conversion, and isn't really interested in flashing a new ROM, is it really necessary to install CWM and Odin, or will the stock stuff work? From what I've gathered, this is all the OP was really trying to do from the start.
BTW, yeah, it's my first post, and yes I've been reading a lot, but definitely not nearly enough. I'm very impressed with the level of assistance forum members are willing to provide, but I, like many others, want to make sure I have it 100% correct before I turn my phone into a very fancy, very worthless piece of silicon, glass and plastic. Thanks, everybody!
I have a rooted ED1 Droid Charge. Can I safely install Voodoo (either whole package or just lagfix) without losing root or causing other issues? I noticed that the Charge is not mentioned specifically on the Voodoo website. Has anyone else tried this yet?
paproctor8 said:
I have a rooted ED1 Droid Charge. Can I safely install Voodoo (either whole package or just lagfix) without losing root or causing other issues? I noticed that the Charge is not mentioned specifically on the Voodoo website. Has anyone else tried this yet?
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There's a thread over in the development section...[ROOT] [KERNEL] [RECOVERY] - Root / Voodoo Lagfix / CWM Recovery
moved to correct forum
Sorry, I found that forum just after I posted. I've re-posted in the correct location.
The package jt put together will work. Voodoo sound is also in the works
I am not currently rooted and I'm running a completely stock EE4 Charge. I'm interested in the Voodoo lagfix, and I was wondering if there is a way to apply it without root. I know on his project website it says you can on the Galaxy S and these aren't quite Galaxy S phones so I don't want to try it and cause problems I don't know how to fix. I had an HD2 and briefly experimented with flashing on that phone but I understand it's a totally different experience with these so I'm pretty much a total noob again. I'd rather not flash a rom if I don't have to, and I have no need for root so that seems like an unnecessary step for me as well. I like the rom that comes stock I just wish it was faster, so Voodoo seems like the best answer!
I was having a hell of a time figuring some of this stuff out, so I decided to try to put some information in a solid place to find it again. Hope this helps some others out. Anyone please correct me if I am wrong about anything. I am simply putting what I understand to this point.
Terms:
Voodoo - A different recovery similar to clockwork (see post below)
CWM - ClockWork Mod (refers to being able to flash with clockwork recovery)
Lagfix - ?????? No idea what this is or what it does. Just see people saying to disable it. (see post below)
Odin - Sofware that can flash your phone. It can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11872936&postcount=2
Download mode - Mode Used to flash phone using ODIN. Open Odin, remove battery, plug phone into USB port, hold down volume down key until screen comes up on phone and you see a com port active in the first block of odin.
Recovery Mode - This works for both STOCK and Voodoo. Hold down the volume up key + Home Button + Power button. Samsung will appear then disappear, and reappear again, this is when you let go of the buttons.
ED1 - Stock rom that came with phone
ED2 - Stock Rom - First update available
EE4 - Stock Rom - Second update available.
From what I learned so far, root is easily aquired by flashing down to ED1 using this file http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085190 and Odin
When using Odin you only need to insert the file, by clicking the PDA button. All other settings can be left alone.
The Droid Charge comes stock with Android 2.2.1 AKA "Froyo" which allows for flash and other improved functions.
Gingerbread is hopefully the next version 2.3 which should be a great treat for our Charge's. I was getting better performance, better battery life, and the ability to run some programs such as netflix that I cannot get to work on my froyo build right now (maybe I'm doing something wrong?) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076150
That's all for now. Would be happy to add more if anyone else has suggestions.
I'm not a noob myself, but this just caught me off guard. I've been flashing roms since windows mobile 2003. I even made a few myself. I've owned other Samsung Android devices, but recently been using Motorola's so I have that down, but this one caught me off guard a bit.
Thanks to everyone that's been working to make this phone the best it can be.
Good idea. Let me help ya with a correction or two, and maybe a clarification.
Voodoo isn't a recovery, it's the lagfix. Techinically, Voodoo refers to Project Voodoo, an attempt at improving the Galaxy S phones:
http://project-voodoo.org/
But, for the Charge (which isn't a Galaxy S phone), when you see Voodoo referenced, they're only talking about the lagfix:
http://project-voodoo.org/lagfix
When you see people talking about disabling it, it's because they are going back to stock ROM, which doesn't support it.
Root can also be acquired by simply flashing directly to any ROM that has it built in, you don't have to be at ED1 any more. You could be at ED2 already, and flash Altered Beast using Odin, and you will be rooted. Soon we should see pre-rooted ROMs with EE4.
CWM is an alternate recovery, which, as you said, is generally used when you go in to recovery mode. A custom Android recovery basically replaces the stock recovery with one that lets you do all you can do with the stock recovery, plus a plethora of more options to give you a lot more control on your device. With a custom recovery, you can install official and unofficial ROMs as well as other updates including apps, themes, kernels etc. using zip files, wipe not just user data but pretty much every partition on your device, mount the storage card for USB mass storage access without leaving recovery, partition your SD card, wipe Dalvik cache and battery stats, fix permissions, perform, manage and restore backups and so on.
For those coming from CWM on other systems, you should know you cannot currently do backups and restores with it - that's being worked on.
Hope this helps!
The lagfix is done through Voodoo. It converts the Samsung system files from rfs to ext4. Which basically makes it run faster with no lag. Hence the Lagfix term. Depending on the kernel you're running, that would make you enable/disable Lagfix. Some kernels only run with rfs system files. Others run with the ext4 files. I'm a noob when it comes to the Samsung way of life, but I've learned a TON here and over on androidcentral. I'm coming from a rooted and ROM'd D1 myself. So I'm quite familiar with the way things are done on Motorola's.
Awesome input. Thanks so much for clearing these things up!
I just got my EE4 update but hungry for root. I wanted to try altered beast but I'd rather have a bone dry system to work up to. I'm also waiting for Gingerbread so I can do netflix. I had it on my droid 2. Also want to see overclocking.
YES
Ty, I'm a total noob, and I have spent hours and hours reading threads just trying to find out how to boot to recovery mode. This is most definately, exactly what i have been searching for! This noob thread is GENIOUS!
I am very grateful to all the members, devs, and everone for all their hard work (including the noobs that ask dumb questions so i dont have to) for making Kick @$$ programs and info for our phones.
I was really unhappy with my phone until I found this site, and learned how to modify my Charge. Y'all ROCK. (i know about the ty buttons, and i'm going to go back and hit it up for everyone thats helped!)
A voodoo kernel can also have sound and color enhancement which need to be enabled by the kernel. An app called voodoo control from the market helps to tweak the sound.
More info at http://project-voodoo.org/
Okay ... So I am about to update to the latest pushed version. Am rolling back to EE4 now and have the update.zip on my card. What about CWM? Does my current version I've been using with my Gummy Charged 2.1 work with it? I have the Imosyn (sp) kernel on my card that I will apply after the update to 2.3.6 for root, as I understand it.
Are there any Gummy's or anything that are going to work after the 'official' update?
You don't use CWM with the update. You use stock recovery.
Gummy is EP1W. If you install it over the OTA, you'll bring yourself right back down to EP1, and the update will be pointless. You can get lagfix by running imoseyon kernel. It's EP4. It's slightly older EP4, but I haven't had any issues.
shrike1978 said:
You don't use CWM with the update. You use stock recovery.
Gummy is EP1W. If you install it over the OTA, you'll bring yourself right back down to EP1, and the update will be pointless. You can get lagfix by running imoseyon kernel. It's EP4. It's slightly older EP4, but I haven't had any issues.
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Thank you sir! Phone is updating now. I will apply the imoseyon kernel after it's done. Lagfix is the main thing anyhow, I can nuke the bloatness with my Titanium.
now I'm confused .... I no longer have CWM recovery. How am I to apply the imoseyon kernel via stock recovery? Can I just rename it as update.zip?
By taking it back to stock EE4 and installing the update, one of the things it did was restore the default recovery environment.
Go back into ODIN and install CWM, don't use Auto-Reboot. When it's done flashing, turn the phone off and hold the button combinations to start the phone into CWM. Flash iMoseyOn's kernel and you're done at that point.
trparky said:
By taking it back to stock EE4 and installing the update, one of the things it did was restore the default recovery environment.
Go back into ODIN and install CWM, don't use Auto-Reboot. When it's done flashing, turn the phone off and hold the button combinations to start the phone into CWM. Flash iMoseyOn's kernel and you're done at that point.
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Ahhhh.... it's @ the Sammy screen and she's talking to me! Looks like all is good while it re-writes the allocation tables. Thanx again, appreciate the heck out of the help.
hmmm .... I guess all is not well ... I installed the kernel but I don't have root. I installed superuser from the market and then Titanium and when opening Titanium I have no root .... what next?
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hmmm .... I guess all is not well ... I installed the kernel but I don't have root. I installed superuser from the market and then Titanium and when opening Titanium I have no root .... what next?
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You SHOULD have root since the kernel is your root method. Have you tried restarting?
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Yeah I sure have. The kernel I used is imoseyon_kernel_charge_gb_4.0.0 ... not rooted .... guess I need to drop five yards and punt (do it all over)
Edit: The one thing I did not do prior to rolling back to EE4 was to do the big 3 wipe of data/cache/etc ..... maybe that's the problem?
Chopstix9 said:
Yeah I sure have. The kernel I used is imoseyon_kernel_charge_gb_4.0.0 ... not rooted .... guess I need to drop five yards and punt (do it all over)
Edit: The one thing I did not do prior to rolling back to EE4 was to do the big 3 wipe of data/cache/etc ..... maybe that's the problem?
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Try installing Superuser from the Market? imosyeon kernel should have installed binary and apk, but maybe it missed part of it. If all else fails, flash the superuser zip from CWM.
http://www.toms-world.org/android/download/http/Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed.zip
Yes, I had installed SU from the market and didn't have root. I had an SU zip saved on my desktop .... su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed .... I put that on the sd and installed it and I am rooted !!
Thanx Again
I love Lagfix and Voodoo Sound, but I'm currently running the stock kernel. I read in other forum discussion that Samsung designs their kernels to work with their OS revisions. People have said they're getting the best performance with the stock kernel.
Until IMoseyOn releases a new kernel based on the EP4D source that was released, I'm going to stick with stock.
Just some food for thought.
KarateExplosion6 said:
I love Lagfix and Voodoo Sound, but I'm currently running the stock kernel. I read in other forum discussion that Samsung designs their kernels to work with their OS revisions. People have said they're getting the best performance with the stock kernel.
Until IMoseyOn releases a new kernel based on the EP4D source that was released, I'm going to stick with stock.
Just some food for thought.
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My concern was updating to 2.3.6 and having root. (on the road all day and need wireless tethering so outlook is open on laptop) Using the tad older imoseyon kernel gave me that, plus lagfix, which I have liked since this phone hit the market. I'm good for now, I can always update when the latest and greatest comes out.
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My concern was updating to 2.3.6 and having root. (on the road all day and need wireless tethering so outlook is open on laptop) Using the tad older imoseyon kernel gave me that, plus lagfix, which I have liked since this phone hit the market. I'm good for now, I can always update when the latest and greatest comes out.
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I have root on the stock kernel bro. Did a clean EE4 install, skipped as much set up as possible, ran update.zip in stock recovery, ODIN flashed imnuts' latest CWM recovery with auto-reboot disabled, booted directly into CWM recovery, flashed the latest SU zip, then ran setup as normal. Boom! Root.
Completely clean install, latest OS and kernel, root, plus tether works and everything.
Right now I'm just waiting on imnuts' TW4 theme to launch (he's estimating Sunday). Hopefully I can install that theme over a debloated and deodexed version of the latest OTA. It won't be long before IMoseyOn releases a kernel built from source that enables Lagfix. That's really all I'm missing, since Voodoo Control lets me load most of Voodoo Sound on top of the stock kernel.
What I'm REALLY looking forward to is an release of Liberty for the Charge or something AOSP if we ever get the 4G RIL sorted out... This things will take considerable time though.
It just doesn't matter ... In all honesty I liked the feel of the Gummy GBE 2.1 better than this stock ginger ... but again, it just doesn't matter to me. Functionality is all I care about, it's only a damn phone !!!
I loaded up the debloated/deodexed/rooted all-in one package danalo posted in development, flashed perfectly and after a wipe in CWM on first boot seems to be running fine except for the poop
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KarateExplosion6 said:
I have root on the stock kernel bro. Did a clean EE4 install, skipped as much set up as possible, ran update.zip in stock recovery, ODIN flashed imnuts' latest CWM recovery with auto-reboot disabled, booted directly into CWM recovery, flashed the latest SU zip, then ran setup as normal. Boom! Root.
Completely clean install, latest OS and kernel, root, plus tether works and everything.
Right now I'm just waiting on imnuts' TW4 theme to launch (he's estimating Sunday). Hopefully I can install that theme over a debloated and deodexed version of the latest OTA. It won't be long before IMoseyOn releases a kernel built from source that enables Lagfix. That's really all I'm missing, since Voodoo Control lets me load most of Voodoo Sound on top of the stock kernel.
What I'm REALLY looking forward to is an release of Liberty for the Charge or something AOSP if we ever get the 4G RIL sorted out... This things will take considerable time though.
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Care to make a thread of what you done? Files used? I want to re-root my Charge, but want to keep the latest ota update and radios. Main question is the "update.zip" file?
iMoseyOn has stated that he's not going to be developing kernels anymore due to him having to turn in all of his phones to his old employer. He's taken up a new job and because of that he has to return his phones, including the Droid Charge.
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iMoseyOn has stated that he's not going to be developing kernels anymore due to him having to turn in all of his phones to his old employer. He's taken up a new job and because of that he has to return his phones, including the Droid Charge.
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Yeah, I read last night. Awful news. I hope someone can just get us full Voodoo and EXT4 support. I don't absolutely need OC/UV, but it'd be nice...
In other bad news, imnuts is getting a Galaxy Nexus and only pledging support for the Charge for "a few more months."
Let's hope JT and the gang can get this RIL figured out, so we can at least have Team Douche to continue development with CM 7.2 and CM 9...
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Damn. And I thought it couldn't get any worse with iMoseyOn leaving. And now we have imnuts leaving too? It just went from bad to worse in a matter of 48 hours!
Guess I better get used to just using the stock kernel.