Considering the HOX - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Hi All,
I am considering upgrading to the HOX - 16GB white dual core version. I have a few questions.
1. How easy is it to root?
2. Is it true that only approx. 10GB is usable for storage?
3. Does HTC keep the device up to date with OTA updates? When is JB expected?
4. Any common hardware defects?
5. How does the S4 stack up to T3?
Thanks

This is a question you should be asking in the AT&T thread and not the Htc One X international thread

1. Easy to root there is a script that will do it for you.
2. I have heard that its only 10GB available.
3. They are generally the best OEM to release update they do release it first it will be a few months yet.
4. None on the S4 version as far as I am aware.
5. The S4 is very capable from videos I have seen it seems smoother when using day to day but it lacks in gaming performance. I also think its better for battery life.

ste1164 said:
1. Easy to root there is a script that will do it for you.
2. I have heard that its only 10GB available.
3. They are generally the best OEM to release update they do release it first it will be a few months yet.
4. None on the S4 version as far as I am aware.
5. The S4 is very capable from videos I have seen it seems smoother when using day to day but it lacks in gaming performance. I also think its better for battery life.
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Please don't BS people.
1. It's currently impossible to root.
3. The HOX is still on 4.0.3 with no sight of 4.0.4 and definitely not sight of 4.1.1
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sabret00the said:
Please don't BS people.
1. It's currently impossible to root.
3. The HOX is still on 4.0.3 with no sight of 4.0.4 and definitely not sight of 4.1.1
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What!!? I wasn't expecting that its impossible to root. Difficult, maybe? But impossible...really?

asicman said:
Hi All,
I am considering upgrading to the HOX - 16GB white dual core version. I have a few questions.
1. How easy is it to root?
2. Is it true that only approx. 10GB is usable for storage?
3. Does HTC keep the device up to date with OTA updates? When is JB expected?
4. Any common hardware defects?
5. How does the S4 stack up to T3?
Thanks
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I have the asia hox and I don't have none of the issues others with the European and other hox report not one. If u want LTE get the usa HOX. S4 pushs the same power threw 2 cores because its built on a newer arm design. How ever you don't get the graphics quality with the S4 that you do with T3 and you also don't get the 5th core. I have seen JB roms but nothing official. Idk if HTC plan on keeping us up to date but from what I see with the ruus they are headed in the right direction. 10GB is a lie unless you spent all week installing app after app or music. I'm completely new to android coming from the iPhone 4S and I was able to jailbreak this phone just fine. Just make sure your computer is properly set up with the SDK and know how to use cmd or terminal. I was on the same boat and I chose the Quadcore version.
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asicman said:
What!!? I wasn't expecting that its impossible to root. Difficult, maybe? But impossible...really?
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See, this is how rumors get started. You can root the Teg3 One X. Here's the instructions.
http://www.thesuperusersguide.com/hasoon2000s-toolkit-method.html
There's no shortage of custom ROMs, kernels, and tweaks if you look in the dev section. Some of the biggest devs on XDA are developing for the Teg3 One X because of its potential. The phone's "S-ON" which imposes some limitations which I guess is what sabret00the was referring to. You also lose all or part of your warranty because to root you have to unlock the phone on HTCdev first and waive your warranty rights to use their unlock tool.
As for 4.0.3 vs. 4.0.4 vs. 4.1, nobody can predict when (or even if) manufacturers are going to push updates to their phones. The One X was further in its launch cycle when 4.0.4 came out than the SGS3 which is why it has 4.0.3. A major update that's in testing already shows the One X is being moved to 4.0.4. And there's absolutely no hard evidence of when JB is coming to any manufacturers phone to have a legitimate conversation of "who's going to be first." Samsung and HTC are both pretty piss poor at keeping up with point and version updates overall so singling out one device as an example isn't representative.

Some people in this thread really need to read the first post... He's asking about the S4 version, not the Tegra 3!
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this is the international one x i dont know why people keep trying to answer his questions when this phone is completely different than the att one x (spec wise)

See the little yellow triangle in the upper right corner of the thread? When you click on it you get this. See how easy it is? It’s a lot more constructive than piling-on about the thread being in the wrong forum.

hello00 said:
this is the international one x i dont know why people keep trying to answer his questions when this phone is completely different than the att one x (spec wise)
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I wouldn't say completely different. Only difference is the cpu and the att model is a tiny bit bigger
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VIIRU§ said:
I wouldn't say completely different. Only difference is the cpu and the att model is a tiny bit bigger
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So just the CPU, case, amount of storage, radio, motherboard, firmware, battery life, and performance are different.
That's right, the screen is the same, probably.

sabret00the said:
Please don't BS people.
1. It's currently impossible to root.
3. The HOX is still on 4.0.3 with no sight of 4.0.4 and definitely not sight of 4.1.1
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Are you new here?
If you're talking about the T3 version he obviously stated S4 a few times in his post. Which is very easy to root and have little doubt about not getting JB.
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Both the international and S4 OneX are both very easy to root. The S4 version hasn't gotten S-OFF yet, but that doesn't preclude you from using root access applications or flashing ROMs. Unlocking the bootloader has so far been done though spoofing the device's CID and using HTCDev to unlock.
Yes, it seems that the sdcard partition is approx 10GB in size. If you like your music, I suggest using Google Play Music and hanging out in places with WiFi access.
HTC has yet to officially announce JB for either device. I haven't heard anything about a community-built JB ROM for the S4 version, either.
No hardware defects that I've seen, though you may see fit to tweak WiFi on the software side a bit. Also, Gorilla Glass 2 isn't all that it's cracked up to be - grab a screen protector if you like going to the beach or anywhere with sand/grit/gravel.
S4 is great - it's the software running on it that's a bit of a pain. I popped AOKP on my One X and it soars in comparison to Sense 4. It's as if I've got Project Butter on here.

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[Q] Which to choose?

I posted this in the One X forums and have no replies and 63 views. I hope you guys can help me with my dilemma. I bought the Inspire off contract at the end of Feb last year and loved it. Qualified for my upgrade in Dec and upgraded to the Vivid near the end of Jan and love it. The One X is the phone I am wanting. That being said I've only used Snapdragon processors and stuck with HTC. Internally, the AT&T version is identical to the Vivid, minus the S4 processor. I will be selling my Inspire to help get this phone, as I have to pay full price whichever route I go. I will have the full price for either device next month and would like to know which I should get? I am really not concerned with LTE as my area won't have for at least another year and I'm always on WiFi. The T3X I can get for $670, the AT&T S4X I will be able to get for $550. Rooting does not concern me at this point, my Inspire is rooted and my Vivid is still locked and stock. Can you please help me with this decision? I don't want to have buyers remorse later this year. I look forward to hearing your opinions.
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If you live in a Lte area or upcoming Lte area, this decision should
be a no-brainer imo. I personally would take the s4 soc over the tegra3.
s4x > t3x imho
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If you live in a Lte area or upcoming Lte area, this decision should
be a no-brainer imo. I personally would take the s4 soc over the tegra3.
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Nope, live outside of Memphis. They won't get LTE for at least another year, and we will get it prolly another year after that. I'm mostly on WiFi on my LTE capable Vivid.
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So, regardless of being only on WiFi, you all would say still get the S4X? Cause I'm thinking the S4X will give me better battery life than the Vivid and the T3X combined. Not to mention the fact it will be cheaper than the T3X.
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ZeroRilix said:
Cause I'm thinking the S4X will give me better battery life than the Vivid and the T3X combined. Not to mention the fact it will be cheaper than the T3X.
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I think you just answered your own question.
I say go with the S4 version since it will be cheaper. A lot of people will use their AT&T upgrade on the phone just to flip it on Ebay for a profit. You will be able to get the S4 version of the One X for under 500.00.
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ZeroRilix said:
So, regardless of being only on WiFi, you all would say still get the S4X? Cause I'm thinking the S4X will give me better battery life than the Vivid and the T3X combined. Not to mention the fact it will be cheaper than the T3X.
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Red5 said:
I think you just answered your own question.
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Lol... Just wait for the at&t version. From what I've read, the one XL
has rock solid battery life with Lte. Hopefully that statement is true.
I think it comes down to how much you value developer support. The One X looks like it will have solid third party developer support, and while I suspect the One XL on AT&T will also have decent support, the international versions of phones usually have significantly stronger developer support.
So, if you were to go with the One XL from AT&T, you'd be trading that extra level of dev support for a lower price, valid warranty, higher performance*, probably better battery life, and LTE (where available).
If support for the One X/XL is anything like the support for the Galaxy S/Captivate, I'd say holding out for the AT&T release of the One XL would be well worth it.
*On most benchmarks.
NardVa said:
I say go with the S4 version since it will be cheaper. A lot of people will use their AT&T upgrade on the phone just to flip it on Ebay for a profit. You will be able to get the S4 version of the One X for under 500.00.
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Yeah with some luck and patience, you should be able to find one
for under 500$ once it's released.
mesasone said:
I think it comes down to how much you value developer support. The One X looks like it will have solid third party developer support, and while I suspect the One XL on AT&T will also have decent support, the international versions of phones usually have significantly stronger developer support.
So, if you were to go with the One XL from AT&T, you'd be trading that extra level of dev support for a lower price, valid warranty, higher performance*, probably better battery life, and LTE (where available).
If support for the One X/XL is anything like the support for the Galaxy S/Captivate, I'd say holding out for the AT&T release of the One XL would be well worth it.
*On most benchmarks.
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Yup. Was going to pick one up on ebay a couple of days ago because
of that, but I decided I prioritize Lte and the s4 chip more.
It will have ****ty bloat and the logo but I'm cool with that. (It will get
removed ). You're in a no-lose situation if you decide to pick up the
one x or one xl.
mesasone said:
I think it comes down to how much you value developer support. The One X looks like it will have solid third party developer support, and while I suspect the One XL on AT&T will also have decent support, the international versions of phones usually have significantly stronger developer support.
So, if you were to go with the One XL from AT&T, you'd be trading that extra level of dev support for a lower price, valid warranty, higher performance*, probably better battery life, and LTE (where available).
If support for the One X/XL is anything like the support for the Galaxy S/Captivate, I'd say holding out for the AT&T release of the One XL would be well worth it.
*On most benchmarks.
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Coming from an Inspire prior to the Vivid, I do value XDA developer support. However, without S-Off I refuse to root my Vivid. However, we are real close to that now. Short term, I don't mind running the phone stock, as that's what I did with my Inspire and now Vivid. I just waited til Thanksgiving to root my Inspire. Once the S-Off process for the Vivid is out, I will finally root it. So, I don't mind using the S4X stock until S-Off, if it ever is, achieved.
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ZeroRilix said:
Coming from an Inspire prior to the Vivid, I do value XDA developer support. However, without S-Off I refuse to root my Vivid. However, we are real close to that now. Short term, I don't mind running the phone stock, as that's what I did with my Inspire and now Vivid. I just waited til Thanksgiving to root my Inspire. Once the S-Off process for the Vivid is out, I will finally root it. So, I don't mind using the S4X stock until S-Off, if it ever is, achieved.
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The Vivid's S-OFF process will require HTCDev Unlock to work, but with S-OFF you can conveniently change the **UNLOCKED** flag to **LOCKED**.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
The Vivid's S-OFF process will require HTCDev Unlock to work, but with S-OFF you can conveniently change the **UNLOCKED** flag to **LOCKED**.
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Actually look in the Vivids dev section. We have a couple devs with an actual s-off procedure in beta right now
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One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast. But please read through the list of issues over at the one x forums to see if you can live with those.
nativestranger said:
One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast.
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Um, no. That is not how multi-core processors work. Seems like you've fallen for marketing gimmickry, instead of actual facts. Few apps, if any are optimized to take advantage of 4 cores, so the only benefit you see is in running processes in the background, switching between tasks, and the like.
If you look at the benchmark comparisons, the S4 beats Tegra 3 in most of them. Some will argue that Tegra 3 wins in some benchmarks, so the difference is probably marginal, either way. But S4 may win for battery life, and Tegra 3 is also having lots of issues on the One X (as you mentioned).
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One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast. But please read through the list of issues over at the one x forums to see if you can live with those.
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I have the international One X. If I had a choice, I'd go with S4 over Teg3. It's a much more modern and efficient chip and from benchmarks performs almost equally. Battery life on the One X so far is pretty terrifying where the One S with the S4 chip seems to fare much better (but it doesn't have a mammoth display either). The international One X is also experiencing some bizarre graphics and performance issues which are probably Teg3 related as the Asus Prime had similar issues until it received a couple of updates. Since LTE is now integrated in to the SoC the One XL should probably have the best battery life of any LTE device currently available.
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One x. 4 cores vs 2 cores. Twice as fast. But please read through the list of issues over at the one x forums to see if you can live with those.
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The Snapdragon S4 which is a Cortex A15 level SOC and a new micro architecture is more powerful. In most tasks the Snapdragon S4 will be the faster of the two. And in quite a few head to head tests, the S4 literally destroys The Tegra 3. The Tegra 3 is a Cortex A9. Like comparing a old Core 2 Duo to a Intel Sandy bridge chip.
The one XL with the snapdragon S4 will most likely be the fastest SOC CPU wise probably until next year or late this year other than other phones running that chip. There isn't a Cortex A15 due on the horizon until that time later this year. OMAP 5 will be such a SOC. And even it will probably be only on par with the snapdragon S4 not out gun it. And than you have the Exynos 5250 which is a quad core cortex A15 later this year or next year. But than again Qualcomm has the Snapdragon S4 Pro, a quad-core A15 level chip to match it.
That means the Galaxy S3 will still be most likely running a 32nm-based Cortex A9 Exynos mobile processor, the Exynos 4212. The Exynos A15 based 5250 will not be ready until later this year. There is a slight chance it will make it into the Galaxy S3 but the chances are slim since they have not produced any in any numbers for production and the S3 will be released soon. The Exynos 4212 is similar to the Tegra 3 but with a better GPU.
The iphone 5 will run the A5X a dual core Cortex A9 with a quad core GPU at 32nm. Again, older microarchitecture.
So essentially the Snapdragon S4 will make the One Xl one of the most powerful if not the most powerful smartphone for the foreseeable future. Regardless of the Samsung S3 and the iphone 5 if they run the above mentioned SOC's. Which most likely they will.
Hardware wise the One xl will have few equals. Other than the 16GB of memory, it is a beast.
There are some reports of issues with the One X international version connecting properly to AT&T's HSPA network, despite having the proper band compatibility (850/1900 MHz). Also, Tegra 3 is having some video corruption and other issues.
I too was slightly considering the international version for use on AT&T, due to the increased storage, and potentially more developer support. And also probably better battery life by using HSPA instead of LTE. But the issues with the international version so far have me deciding against it.
I was worried about the 16 gb storage as well until i used the one XL for the few days that I actually had in our offices. Dropbox is so tightly integrated with The OS that you don't even know that you don't have more than 16 GB on the phone that's how integrated it is.
I uploaded a bunch of photos to the gallery and every time I went to the gallery to retrieve them they were instantly they're like the pictures were on the memory the whole time! don't worry you have plenty of space as long as you keep your photos and videos to drop box. and 25gb is plenty
ZeroRilix said:
Actually look in the Vivids dev section. We have a couple devs with an actual s-off procedure in beta right now
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Yes, I'm saying that juopunut S-OFF uses HTCDev unlock as a part of its exploit, you need your bootloader to be unlocked before you can get S-OFF.

[Q][OPINION] One S for Galaxy Nexus

I thought I would get some feedback from fellow One S users: I just saw how frickin' awesome Jelly Bean is going to be, and have come across an opportunity to trade my One S for a GNex (which has already begun receiving the JB update). Given how long it takes for HTC to roll out ANYTHING, should I make that jump? I know there are a few trade offs, namely an inferior camera on the GNex. But JB looks so sweet, and I am a HUGE fan of vanilla Android. What do others think?
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One S > GNex...
Don't let the software fool you
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glacierguy said:
One S > GNex...
Don't let the software fool you
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So true just wait one x already has ported jb matter of time before its ported by developers to one s
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glacierguy said:
One S > GNex...
Don't let the software fool you
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I know the One S has better specs, but who knows how long we will be waiting for JB. I guess my main gripe with the One S is how we're stuck with Sense. I tolerate it, but I vastly prefer vanilla Android and AOSP. I know some AOSP builds have made progress but still have problems with no real solutions in sight yet, like camera and connectivity issues.
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I was thinking about the same thing too but i'm just gonna keep the One S.
weeks from now we'll get it ported and our device will be SWEET!
Hopefully within 6 months HTC will give us an OTA update also.
Nexus has the better screen+NFC+JB but our One S is superior in design, power, camera, & sound.
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I was thinking about the same thing too but i'm just gonna keep the One S.
weeks from now we'll get it ported and our device will be SWEET!
Hopefully within 6 months HTC will give us an OTA update also.
Nexus has the better screen+NFC+JB but our One S is superior in design, power, camera, & sound.
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I hope it's just weeks. The One X port gives me hope that JB is on the way. 6 months just seems so long when it's already out now. And if it's a Sense update that HTC rolls out...ehh.
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Lol ics is still pretty new, and cm9 is stable... just saying. Enjoy it. JB isn't much different anyway. Nothing like GB to ICS
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I was thinking the same thing, and then I decided to wait until Nexus 7 is available in my country.
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I'm in the same kind of boat. but it seems the nexus has held its price very well! selling the one s in UK second hand, you would probably only see about £200-£240
Hopefully you are getting cash on top seeing as how a new GNex is only $350.
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lcambriz said:
I know the One S has better specs, but who knows how long we will be waiting for JB. I guess my main gripe with the One S is how we're stuck with Sense. I tolerate it, but I vastly prefer vanilla Android and AOSP. I know some AOSP builds have made progress but still have problems with no real solutions in sight yet, like camera and connectivity issues.
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I do not know which rom you have tried but I am on CM9 alpha 12 and most everything works including camera. Its my daily driver and with no over clock have scored 5300 on quadrant plus have almost 400 mb of ram.
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TJBunch1228 said:
Hopefully you are getting cash on top seeing as how a new GNex is only $350.
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:] You got a One S?
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I do not know which rom you have tried but I am on CM9 alpha 12 and most everything works including camera. Its my daily driver and with no over clock have scored 5300 on quadrant plus have almost 400 mb of ram.
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Things are working to a degree but CM9 is still far from my daily driver standards. I check that thread all the time and keep seeing issues pop up, particularly with picture/video recorder quality, which is a deal breaker for me.
And I would be getting money on top for the GNex, if this guy ever gets back to me. I wouldn't even really need much back to even out what I spent since I talked the T-Mo reps down to $100 for my One S when I got it.
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HTC is not TOO bad when it comes to releasing software updates. It certainly is not the worst, *cough* Samsung. Once Google officially releases the source of Jellybean, HTC will begin updating Sense to 4.1. It's safe to say that we would not receive and update until at least 1-2 months after the release; possibly more, depending on HTC's developers. One thing I am skeptical about is waiting to T-Mobile to release their version of HTC Sense with T-Mobile apps and bloatware. If anyone is on stock T-Mobile waiting for an update, this is one thing to consider. I am sure this will not take long as all T-Mobile has to do is add its apps and bloat ****, then release it.
Regarding the difference between the GN and HOS handsets, our device is much better; at least, in my opinion. We have a MUCH better build quality (metal, sleek). We also have better specs, albeit, no sdcard slot. Just because a device gets and update first does not mean it is the best. The GN has it first because it is still the flagship stock Android device as it is a Nexus device. If our HOS was on stock ICS with no Sense, we would get the update at the same time as well, most likely. In sum, we just have to wait a bit longer
EDIT: benchmark scores do not mean ****.
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HTC is not TOO bad when it comes to releasing software updates. It certainly is not the worst, *cough* Samsung.
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Agreed
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One thing I am skeptical about is waiting to T-Mobile to release their version of HTC Sense with T-Mobile apps and bloatware.
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Since t-mo HOS is identical to its international counterpart, we will be able to install the official update almost as soon as it comes out. (and the devs get their hands on it :fingers-crossed
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We also have better specs, albeit, no sdcard slot.
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GNex doesn't have an sdcard slot.
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EDIT: benchmark scores do not mean ****.
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yes they do!
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:] You got a One S?
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Haha yes, since fwdkiller pulled a **** move and wasted my time I found a seller who wanted to trade a mint One S + a Benjamin for my Note. Screen feels tiny but I like how smooth it runs with the krait chip.
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TJBunch1228 said:
Haha yes, since fwdkiller pulled a **** move and wasted my time I found a seller who wanted to trade a mint One S + a Benjamin for my Note. Screen feels tiny but I like how smooth it runs with the krait chip.
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Dude, you made out like a thief at an art gallery. You probably could get 420 for the phone [from my offers] and getting a hundred. You got more than most people would get for a note. Congratulations.
lcambriz said:
I thought I would get some feedback from fellow One S users: I just saw how frickin' awesome Jelly Bean is going to be, and have come across an opportunity to trade my One S for a GNex (which has already begun receiving the JB update). Given how long it takes for HTC to roll out ANYTHING, should I make that jump? I know there are a few trade offs, namely an inferior camera on the GNex. But JB looks so sweet, and I am a HUGE fan of vanilla Android. What do others think?
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I hope that you haven't made this premature nd stupid move till now, and if you did than you sure be regretting it.
We already have a almost everthything working JB CM10 (there's ur vanilla jellybean experience) and also HTC has officially announced that One S will get JB update soon and have already started working on it.
We would definately get official JB within 2 months max and that as good as it gets.
dev997 said:
I hope that you haven't made this premature nd stupid move till now, and if you did than you sure be regretting it.
We already have a almost everthything working JB CM10 (there's ur vanilla jellybean experience) and also HTC has officially announced that One S will get JB update soon and have already started working on it.
We would definately get official JB within 2 months max and that as good as it gets.
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The choice was taken out of my hands:
Boss: "Hey what's this Android phone I hearing you guys debate about all the time?" (My boss is a bit of a technologically challeneged guy; he still uses Blackberry and had me set it up for him when he got it)
Me: (insert my explanation of Android, Jelly Bean, and the iOS v. Android argument here)
Boss: "Wow that sounds pretty awesome. What phone comes with that new Jelly Bean thing?"
Me: "It's going to start rolling out to the newer Android phones over the next few months, but the Samsung Galaxy Nexus has it now."
Boss: "Great! Order me one and set it up, would you? And grab one for yourself while you're at it."
(Tosses me his credit card)
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Should I swap for Tegra 3 HTC One X

Hi,
For those who had both can I ask your opinion? Should I switch the rogers (same as AT&T) version of the One X for a international version with Tegra 3?
I really like the tegra 3 chipset and the extra memory.
Please let me know,
Let's see
The Tegra 3 chip based phone has more build quality issues, worse battery, no LTE, worse audio.
Nah. Not for me.
I would, but solely because I'm a flashaholic and I'm not holding my breath for LTE here in the Philly area.
yobbei said:
Hi,
For those who had both can I ask your opinion? Should I switch the rogers (same as AT&T) version of the One X for a international version with Tegra 3?
I really like the tegra 3 chipset and the extra memory.
Please let me know,
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No LTE (so Cal area) and build quality issues? Heck no, for me at least. Not to mention the battery life difference. I keep chargers everywhere just to keep my S4 alive.
To each their own!
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I definitely wouldn't
gunnyman said:
Let's see
The Tegra 3 chip based phone has more build quality issues, worse battery, no LTE, worse audio.
Nah. Not for me.
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I thought you did swap it out a month ago for a little while.
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jphilippon said:
No LTE (so Cal area) and build quality issues? Heck no, for me at least. Not to mention the battery life difference. I keep chargers everywhere just to keep my S4 alive.
To each their own!
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If you are having battery life issues with your S4, then you've got something else going on. I would see if you're having any wake lock issues or a rogue app that's killing your battery. Try a factory reset. It's widely known that the S4 version has far superior battery life than that of the Tegra 3.
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I thought you did swap it out a month ago for a little while.
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I ordered one from Amazon. I had instant buyers remorse and since I couldn't cancel the order I had to return it as soon as it arrived. I opened it and booted the phone up just to check it out.
It was kind of a scary experience and I won't be ordering an unlocked phone from Amazon again. What I got was a T-Moble (germany) branded HOX. Complete with Their boot logos and bloatware.
I didn't even use it to make a call or anything. It just seemed "off" to me.
yobbei said:
Hi,
For those who had both can I ask your opinion? Should I switch the rogers (same as AT&T) version of the One X for a international version with Tegra 3?
I really like the tegra 3 chipset and the extra memory.
Please let me know,
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Why do you like the Tegra3 chip? Cause everyone says its so good?
The extra memory is a plus though, I use DropBox a lot however. Might not work for most but I keep all my movies there.
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theking_13 said:
Why do you like the Tegra3 chip? Cause everyone says its so good?
The extra memory is a plus though, I use DropBox a lot however. Might not work for most but I keep all my movies there.
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I sold my international HOX and went with the XL. Even though the T3 is supposed to be faster in certain circumstances, the S4 with LTE is snappier, less lag, faster data transfer (even with HSPA+; almost no latency), and battery life is almost double (I sh*t you not). All we need is kernel source and the XL will be the device to have. I do miss the 32gb storage but can manage without it. Go with the XL, you won't regret it.
wayner65 said:
I sold my international HOX and went with the XL. Even though the T3 is supposed to be faster in certain circumstances, the S4 with LTE is snappier, less lag, faster data transfer (even with HSPA+; almost no latency), and battery life is almost double (I sh*t you not). All we need is kernel source and the XL will be the device to have. I do miss the 32gb storage but can manage without it. Go with the XL, you won't regret it.
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Thanks for all your replies.
I like the Tegra3 version because of all the exclusive games and extra storage. Having 16gb is a pain but as you said I can manage with dropbox and box.com.
Maybe i'll just get the nexus 7 for the games.
Thanks
Best of both worlds that way. It's what I'm going to do.
yobbei said:
Thanks for all your replies.
I like the Tegra3 version because of all the exclusive games and extra storage. Having 16gb is a pain but as you said I can manage with dropbox and box.com.
Maybe i'll just get the nexus 7 for the games.
Thanks
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exactly. I'm getting the nexus 7 for games as well. I had the Tegra 3 version before getting the rogers one x. The battery life was ****. turn on the phone at 7 am and was nearly dead by 3 pm. now with the rogers one x I can actually last 1 full day without charging.
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Qualcomm should be very proud of the S4. Imagine quad core version of this chip drool.

October...

... is almost gone and still no JB update on the horizon. I doub't that there will be an JB Update this month
Anyone with me?
It's htc obviously there isn't going to be a jelly bean update they talk out their back side all the time never buying another HTC device.
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They actually never said October, that was just a rumour and supposedly only for the X, not the S.
They only came out the other day officially saying November for the one X and December for the one S.
http://www.techradar.com//news/phon...ean-release-date-when-will-you-get-it-1087344
Update: The latest reports suggest the One X will see Android 4.1 pop up in October, although HTC are yet to officially confirm anything.
Update:HTC has confirmed its One X and One S devices will be getting Android 4.1 in November and December respectively, and the update will land with an enhanced version of Sense – cunningly named Sense 4+ after its debut on the HTC One X+.
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But yeah I agree, it is annoying........
I am not expecting the update to hit my stock sim free one S in the UK till January or February.
That notice its false (sorry for my inglish) htc said in their google+ and another sites like twitter, that update its going to rolling out in this month for ONE X AND ONE S, THIS...
Ivancp said:
That notice its false (sorry for my inglish) htc said in their google+ and another sites like twitter, that update its going to rolling out in this month for ONE X AND ONE S, THIS...
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You got any links to those posts?
It doesn't matter htc even if they give us a date they don't stick to it happens with most of their devices I really don't care if they go bankrupt they are terrible to customers
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Man...some of you don't seem to understand how the update process works. Weather HTC said this month or not it doesn't matter. You service provider has final say as to when you get your precious update.
As of yesterday give it take " update for the one x and one s will be November and December respectively"!
Take 2 seconds and google it.
4.0.4 with sense 4 is pretty slick so I'm not sure why everyone has their panties in a bunch
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A lot of us have sim free devices, which means we don't have to rely on network providers, so in theory if HTC released the JB update for Europe, every sim free one s that was bought from Europe should have the JB update by the end of the week, likewise for USA etc. Network locked/branded phones have to wait.
Sim free device means it comes down to the CID number.
Although with the way things worked out for the last update, it sounds like you're better of with branded phones
Take 5-10 seconds to read this thread, I already posted that quote in this thread already......
Regarding as to if JB will make a difference or not, many people who have the GS 3 have said the difference in smoothness is pretty big coming from ICS and from my experience the GS 3 is smoother than the S, just not as nippy/speedy though.
Besides there is more to it than just project butter:
- notification tray UI update
- improvement in battery slightly
- improvements in sense such as themes for the SMS sense app, camera UI, battery history/graph
No doubt there will be other improvements, possibly improving signal/wifi performance even more.
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Man...some of you don't seem to understand how the update process works. Weather HTC said this month or not it doesn't matter. You service provider has final say as to when you get your precious update.
As of yesterday give it take " update for the one x and one s will be November and December respectively"!
Take 2 seconds and google it.
4.0.4 with sense 4 is pretty slick so I'm not sure why everyone has their panties in a bunch
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Mines sim free not branded and should get it straight away also once devs get their hands on the software they can implement it into their roms so technically we are just waiting for HTC and they don't stick to their deadlines
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I'm just going to throw this in here also... Coming from a family who has ran a small business, deadlines are hard to keep. You may think with 100% certainty that something will be done by then, but something else pops up and you have to focus on that.
Even with HTC being a bigger company they have a TON of other things to worry about, not going out of business for one. There's no way HTC has as many developers on board as Samsung and Google at the moment, not to mention how much more work goes into Sense UI than Touchwiz.
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I'm just going to throw this in here also... Coming from a family who has ran a small business, deadlines are hard to keep. You may think with 100% certainty that something will be done by then, but something else pops up and you have to focus on that.
Even with HTC being a bigger company they have a TON of other things to worry about, not going out of business for one. There's no way HTC has as many developers on board as Samsung and Google at the moment, not to mention how much more work goes into Sense UI than Touchwiz.
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Not only that, but do you remember a few years ago when phones didn't update firmware or software at all?! As someone already mentioned, the recent OTA update is great, and gets any job done for all intents and purposes. This is a case of wanting the shiny new thing right away - I say you're lucky you don't have to buy a new phone to get it at all, IMHO.
If you can give a solid example how JB will fix a major problem, or make your Android-Phone-using life drastically better, I'll reconsider. In the mean time I'm more than happy with what I have.
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Not only that, but do you remember a few years ago when phones didn't update firmware or software at all?! As someone already mentioned, the recent OTA update is great, and gets any job done for all intents and purposes. This is a case of wanting the shiny new thing right away - I say you're lucky you don't have to buy a new phone to get it at all, IMHO.
If you can give a solid example how JB will fix a major problem, or make your Android-Phone-using life drastically better, I'll reconsider. In the mean time I'm more than happy with what I have.
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Couldn't agree more. I don't see how much better my phone can get, it does anything and everything I want it to. It lasts me more than all day, except if I play heavy games (Which is a given with any phone...)
If you want fast updates, and a lot of them go to a iphone.
Everyone is nagging on HTC, while not enjoying what they have.
Jellybean will not drop until after the one x+ drops. Count on it. That's how they get that small percentage of impatient people to upgrade.
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but give HTC a break.
I mean, it is them but it is us too.
Several companies haven't even pushed ICS yet.
And are you kidding? Not many things changed, just an addition of Google Now and some other things. I would understand if they like promised like 5.0 Kandy Kane/Key Lime Pie/Krispy Kreme or whatever, but no.
The update is also confirmed to start rolling out in October-November.
HTC no longer announces dates for release of software due to the nature of the software development process. At any point in the software development cycle a situation may be encountered that requires anything from some minor additional rework, to complete rewrites of the software base. Only after the final acceptance testing has been successfully completed will HTC release software. The normal time period between the final acceptance testing and release of software is about a week and often shorter than that.
Also, look at other companies. Samsung, Huawei, Sony, Alcatel, etc. All companies are never sure when they are going to release it. I'm sure it's not easy to develop something for ever single device and customize everything to a liking. All phone companies lie.
Hope that helps!
I also think the main reason they could be late is because of rebasing it on 4.1.2 instead of 4.1.1, to avoid another update in the future.
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Hi guys !
If you look at the link below, it says (in French sorry :/) that the htc one x & s (SFR branded) will be updated on the 6th November. It also mentions that they are now validating internally the update.
http://android.sfr.fr/htc-one-xs-sfr/
mikeyinid said:
Jellybean will not drop until after the one x+ drops. Count on it. That's how they get that small percentage of impatient people to upgrade.
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This.
I am sure JB has been ready for quite a while now, well most certainly for the one X anyway.
Only reason they don't release it for the X is due to the above, another selling point for the X+.
Exact same happened with the GS 3 and the GS 3 LTE model in the UK, only in the last few days have GS 3 UK owners been getting the JB update despite the LTE model being out for a month or a few weeks iirc. Only difference between them is one has an extra GB of RAM and is LTE supported.
I am in no rush at all really, however, I would like to get the update before the end of the year though especially since I can't see us getting 4.2.....
Here is just a glimpse preview of what JB and the new sense will bring, it is for the X though and some stuff isn't right i.e. we do have the notifications new features, which shows more detail.
http://www.neowin.net/news/htc-sense-4-review-how-it-should-have-been-from-the-start
Why don't u think we will be getting 4.2? Do u think one x will be getting 4
2?
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Why don't u think we will be getting 4.2? Do u think one x will be getting 4
2?
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The one X will.
I just have a funny feeling the s won't, due to it not being popular at all, HTC have a whole bunch of new android phones out and will be releasing even more in the next 1-2 months meaning less time and money to spend on older devices. Plus we have only had like 2 updates since the phone released, where as the X has had around 4-5.
Of course, I could be completely wrong and really hope I am.
Although if the XL gets the update (and am pretty sure it will), then there is absolutely no reason why they can't provide the update to the S as well.....
FBK said:
Hi guys !
If you look at the link below, it says (in French sorry :/) that the htc one x & s (SFR branded) will be updated on the 6th November. It also mentions that they are now validating internally the update.
http://android.sfr.fr/htc-one-xs-sfr/
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*facepalm*
That's for the European version, not the USA version.

The Mini is dead, long live the Mini....

The Mini is dead, long live the Mini....
Let's face it. The mini is dead in the water, literally months after launch, there is nothing happening. Full respect is due to the MagioRom team, and tr1gg3r84 in particular for all the great work producing a great rom. But without support from the HTCDEV (ha) team, no RUU, no updates for unlocked phones, no focus.
It really had the potential to be a great phone, but HTC sunk the ship before it sailed. 16GB (10 you can use) and 1GB RAM. I formatted it fully yesterday, 2 nandroid backups, 1 GB of music, 1.8 GB of video and Titanium Backups = 2GB free. Pathetic.
AND we won't be getting anything other than the launch JB 4.2.2 build 1.22 on an unlocked phone, as formally stated by HTC. Yes, we will help you unlock, but then you're f#@ked. Just buy a ONE.
Not only have HTC ignored and abandoned the mini, so have the dev community on xda (we had some promising interest at first by some good senior devs, but interest has been lost) and cm - I've stayed tuned as asked to do so by Cyanogen:
September 06, 2013
HTC One Mini
Adding to our ever growing device list, Negri Electronics stepped up to help out yet again, this time sending us the One Mini. Stay tuned for ‘codename: m4′ builds to be released. The Negri team has been great to work with and we appreciate their support of CM and the community.
Errrrrr......hellooooooo? Am i tuned to the wrong station?
I don't want a sense/bloated rom. I mean, come on, 1GB zips? I don't have room on my bloody phone to hold the zip AND a backup prior to flashing.
I'm going back to Samsung - s#it build quality, but at least you can mod the thing.
It breaks my heart, but I've had enough of getting excited when I get a xda notification on a dev thread thinking it might, just might, be something new. But, just like Santa, you learn that he's not coming.
Believe me, this IS NOT a rant directed at xda, the devs, and the fantastic work they do, I'm ranting out of frustration - HTC, you nearly had a convert.
See ya.
N.
I kind of agree with this ... this phone does have potential, but with no community to back it up it just kind of flops. I got mine yesterday and I can't even root it for god sakes.
I might use it for a bit till the Sony Xperia Z1f comes out ... HTC really dropped the ball on this one ...
I say give it time. Good things come to those that wait. I just got my HTC One Mini yesterday and out the box it's a really great phone, but yeah I'm a flash-a-holic and coming from the Galaxy S1 with its HUGE dev section here on XDA, it makes me long for something to flash to my new phone..
Least we still have root available to us. And for me storage isn't a big problem with having an unlimited internet contract, cloud storage, and USB OTG which can be used to backup your nandroids or anything else apart from apps. This is still a new phone and I'd like to think its still to early to call it, maybe I'm wrong, I hope not..
I find most development leans towards flag ship models as more people have them, but I dislike these giants, so do others, and others may soon join the mini following giving a bigger fan base for developers to take notice of..
RuffBuster said:
I say give it time. Good things come to those that wait. I just got my HTC One Mini yesterday and out the box it's a really great phone, but yeah I'm a flash-a-holic and coming from the Galaxy S1 with its HUGE dev section here on XDA, it makes me long for something to flash to my new phone..
Least we still have root available to us. And for me storage isn't a big problem with having an unlimited internet contract, cloud storage, and USB OTG which can be used to backup your nandroids or anything else apart from apps. This is still a new phone and I'd like to think its still to early to call it, maybe I'm wrong, I hope not..
I find most development leans towards flag ship models as more people have them, but I dislike these giants, so do others, and others may soon join the mini following giving a bigger fan base for developers to take notice of..
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No ... I can't root my HTC One Mini 601s version
leungalv said:
No ... I can't root my HTC One Mini 601s version
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Hmmm I have noticed some people having problems here. Were you able to unlock bootloader? And what methods did you try? I have the 601n version with latest UK ota update, I haven't tried yet as I'm still burning my phone in. Fingers crossed.
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RuffBuster said:
Hmmm I have noticed some people having problems here. Were you able to unlock bootloader? And what methods did you try? I have the 601n version with latest UK ota update, I haven't tried yet as I'm still burning my phone in. Fingers crossed.
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No I haven't tried unlocking bootloader ... I tried installing TWRP Recovery to no avail. I tried using OneClickRoot for the rooting. What should I use to unlock the bootloader? Thanks.
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AND we won't be getting anything other than the launch JB 4.2.2 build 1.22 on an unlocked phone, as formally stated by HTC.
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Why do you say that? We've already had an OTA update since launch (on 1.32.401.2 with UK unlocked here) and all the announcements so far have indicated that 4.3 is coming for the mini after the One. Did I miss another fornal announcement to the contrary?
Edit: sorry, I misundertood you, I guess you're referring to unlocked bootloader.
leungalv said:
No I haven't tried unlocking bootloader ... I tried installing TWRP Recovery to no avail. I tried using OneClickRoot for the rooting. What should I use to unlock the bootloader? Thanks.
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You do it at htcdev.com and select other in handset, but I haven't tried out yet..
Pretty sure you need this for TWRP recovery.
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RuffBuster said:
You do it at htcdev.com and select other in handset, but I haven't tried out yet..
Pretty sure you need this for TWRP recovery.
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Awesome ... that worked after unlocking the bootloader, I installed TWRP Recovery successfully. Thanks!
EDIT: rooted the phone through TWRP recovery.
So I had to do this: unlock bootloader via HTCDev as you advised -> install TWRP via fastboot -> root via TWRP yay
Yeah I do agree with the lack if updates/ruu that are available for people. But I have a update coming for 4.2.2 and it's pretty smooth fast and great battery life. Plus alot of features. Also I'm working with a kernel dev who might be able to help me bring a 4.3 sense 5.5 to mini ported from the M7. Maybe in time Cm roms but that's till a source is available. But for now gotta make do with what's available if not try and make something.
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Pretty much. It's a great phone, but unfortunately HTC cut too much out and the development for it is almost dead. I kind of wish I waited to upgrade my phone because now I can get a Moto X or a HTC One for $100 which is the same price I paid for the One Mini.
I'm hoping h8drift gets Cm 10.2 working and stable on the Mini, but he hasn't posted anything in almost a month.
Apparently the Mini is supposed to get the 4.3 update with Sense 5.5 so at least that's something.
Ecstacy42 said:
Pretty much. It's a great phone, but unfortunately HTC cut too much out and the development for it is almost dead. I kind of wish I waited to upgrade my phone because now I can get a Moto X or a HTC One for $100 which is the same price I paid for the One Mini.
I'm hoping h8drift gets Cm 10.2 working and stable on the Mini, but he hasn't posted anything in almost a month.
Apparently the Mini is supposed to get the 4.3 update with Sense 5.5 so at least that's something.
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Yeah but HTC say a lot but don't do so wait and see. How long it takes them ha :sly:
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The sales about Mini is very very small and yes, this phone is pretty dead already because the majority of target customers are One S and they decided to stay with One S for one more year and wait for another 4.3" from HTC in 2014.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1531
You see our One S board is still quite active......
Speaking for the One S. One Mini was supposed to replace One S but ended up it can't. One S has even more advantages over One Mini.
1. One S got an even more slim, light weight and cool design over One Mini
2. One S is more harder and more protection without using case
3. One S(S4) the cpu/gpu/bus-bandwidth is more faster
4. One Mini got UltraPixel and good at low light but outdoor photo is outperformed by One S 's 8M sensor.
Personally, I'm an One S user and thinking to upgrade to One or One Mini because I love the idea of Zoe. I must admit that originally I prefer to get HTC One but there are just too many dead UltraPixel on HTC One while One Mini used more mature manufactured UltraPixel stocks and hardly hear about purple tint issue, this made me switch to notice One Mini.
TheEndHK said:
The sales about Mini is very very small and yes, this phone is pretty dead already because the majority of target customers are One S and they decided to stay with One S for one more year and wait for another 4.3" from HTC in 2014.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1531
You see our One S board is still quite active......
Speaking for the One S. One Mini was supposed to replace One S but ended up it can't. One S has even more advantages over One Mini.
1. One S got an even more slim, light weight and cool design over One Mini
2. One S is more harder and more protection without using case
3. One S(S4) the cpu/gpu/bus-bandwidth is more faster
4. One Mini got UltraPixel and good at low light but outdoor photo is outperformed by One S 's 8M sensor.
Personally, I'm an One S user and thinking to upgrade to One or One Mini because I love the idea of Zoe. I must admit that originally I prefer to get HTC One but there are just too many dead UltraPixel on HTC One while One Mini used more mature manufactured UltraPixel stocks and hardly hear about purple tint issue, this made me switch to notice One Mini.
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Very true ... I actually prefer the One S over the One Mini ... too bad I just gave the One S to my mom
leungalv said:
Very true ... I actually prefer the One S over the One Mini ... too bad I just gave the One S to my mom
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It's easy .... steal back the One S from your mom when she is sleeping and switch the One Mini for her. But I'm sure she will fxxk you up in the next morning. :laugh:
Have a little patience...
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TheEndHK said:
It's easy .... steal back the One S from your mom when she is sleeping and switch the One Mini for her. But I'm sure she will fxxk you up in the next morning. :laugh:
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HAHAHA I could do that ... except I live 4 hours away from my parents!
Damn.... I have to replace my HTC Pyramid (still active developement) rather soon so I was looking for a new phone. Fell in love with the design of HTC's One Mini. However after now reading this thread I will prob. not update to the Mini.
Thank you :crying:... and I guess thank you
Despite all these drawbacks, the phone on its stock is still great. Also it doesnt cost much for a premium design

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