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Is this Xoom pure Google experience Android tablet?
Meaning that it will get update directly from Google instead of Motorola ...
If so, that would seal the deal for me. I am already thinking about getting two for my wife and I, but Pure Google Experience would make this thing damn near magical in my mind.
gogol said:
Is this Xoom pure Google experience Android tablet?
Meaning that it will get update directly from Google instead of Motorola ...
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no i think it has MotoBlur on it. it will take a long time for updates like samsung or htc
There is no MotoBlur on it. Hopefully it will have an unlocked bootloader, simple root access and updates from Google though.
Not pure android, but as close as you're gonna get without AOSPing it yourself.
Think about the original Droid, this is the equivalent tablet.
You are not getting updates from Google though, you are getting them from Moto/Verizon.
Hmmm ...
Then Xoom is the same like the LG G-Slate ...
Both are NOT pure Google experience ... which we must wait either Motorola or LG to provide software update ...
That is sucks ...
Then I might wait for HTC Honeycomb tablet because to my opinion HTC is more open and give update more often / faster than those 2 companies.
JCopernicus said:
Not pure android, but as close as you're gonna get without AOSPing it yourself.
Think about the original Droid, this is the equivalent tablet.
You are not getting updates from Google though, you are getting them from Moto/Verizon.
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Motorola seems to be pretty good with updates actually, apart from the cliq and very low end devices.
The Xoom will not be ruined by MotoBlur, thankfully, but no pure AOSP. However, since it's a premiere/flagship/whatever device, no doubt updates will be coming.
Unlocked? Doubt it. But that's what XDA is for
Google has stated several times that the Xoom is their "lead Honeycomb device" whether or not it means they will handling it themselves, alone, is unknown.
It has not been confirmed that Motorola will be updating the device themselves.
Also Honeycomb on the Xoom, at least as it seems, was not modified by Motorola. Therefore I would assume that it is stock 3.0. It hasn't been touched by anyone else but Google. Where was it confirmed that it was not pure AOSP?
Except that the Xoom debuted as Moto's and Verizon's product back in January, because of this you can expect it to not be pure AOSP, at the very least the tethering functionality will me messed with so that verizon can get their greedy cut.
Google is just helping out and using it to develop tablet functionality.
If this was a Google Device, you wouldn't be seein actual proper marketing for it. *snicker*
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Except that the Xoom debuted as Moto's and Verizon's product back in January, because of this you can expect it to not be pure AOSP, at the very least the tethering functionality will me messed with so that verizon can get their greedy cut.
Google is just helping out and using it to develop tablet functionality.
If this was a Google Device, you wouldn't be seen actual proper marketing for it. *snicker*
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I assumed Google simply used Verizon to market the device and allow it to be on a major network, then asked Motorola to make the device for them.
Obviously I was wrong.
Apparently Google isn't going the way of it's phones and making a "Nexus" line for tablets. It seemed that from now on with each new major release of Android we would get a flagship, AOSP device from Google themselves.
Yeah, this doesnt appear to be a Google/Nexus device, unfortunately. Silver lining is that it seems like Moto isn't futzing with it TOO much, probably to get it out in time to compete and get a head start on the ipad2.
sure of that?
To clarify, Motorola XOOM is a Google Experience Device and the first tablet to incorporate Android 3.0 Honeycomb. As such, Motorola Mobility has worked closely with Google to develop and optimize the Honeycomb OS on XOOM, and has no plans to customize the software with MotoBlur
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The above came from intomobile site and I also found contradictions from other motorola execs that blur could come later.
Of course the words "no plans" doesn't preclude them coming up with a plan.
Perhaps we're looking at a saner 3-party update model for Xoom? Carrier for the radio firmware and crapware (as long as I can remove it), the manufacturer for driver level hardware facing stuff and the Goog for all else. Of course this assumes no blur.
"planned obsolescence" is the big issue here.
this is a pure google experience stop coming up with non sense about moto blur because you won't ever see it on the xoom
Holy thread necro, batmam!
The way I'm seeing it (pure speculation). Is that it might not being a full on "Nexus" device. At worse it is on par with the original Droid. If it was wifi only I would think it would be better as Verizon wouldn't have a say in the firmware update, but there is a 3g verizon version so that might effect update (even for the wifi only version)
one of the thing i like to mention is, the last patch/upgrade on the XOOM.
the file 99b3b5f5dcde.signed-trygon-HRI66-from-HRI39.99b3b5f5.zip doesn't seems to come directly from google servers.
i have tried to search for any download link that is directly from google, but no luck. most of them are like cache copy on megaupload or somewhere else.
unlink the nexus line of phones, you are able to get the download directly from google servers. something like below.
http://android.clients.google.com/p...signed-passion-GRI40-from-FRG83G.81304b2d.zip
my conclusion is that the updates will not come directly from google, but from motorola. hence proving that this is not a official google support device.
just a thought.
again, i might be wrong.
The FUD around this device is out of control.
If I were a mod I'd have to warn a large % of this thread.
If those fear mongering took one minute you could find an article such as this: http://www.intomobile.com/2011/01/21/motorola-xoom-android-motoblur/
Which confirms that, yes, the Xoom is a pure android experience device, and no, it will not be seeing motoblur.
How are debunked rumors still circulating?
(quote from the article)
To clarify, Motorola XOOM is a Google Experience Device and the first tablet to incorporate Android 3.0 Honeycomb. As such, Motorola Mobility has worked closely with Google to develop and optimize the Honeycomb OS on XOOM, and has no plans to customize the software with MotoBlur.
inrelief said:
The FUD around this device is out of control.
If I were a mod I'd have to warn a large % of this thread.
If those fear mongering took one minute you could find an article such as this: http://www.intomobile.com/2011/01/21/motorola-xoom-android-motoblur/
Which confirms that, yes, the Xoom is a pure android experience device, and no, it will not be seeing motoblur.
How are debunked rumors still circulating?
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To clarify, Motorola XOOM is a Google Experience Device and the first tablet to incorporate Android 3.0 Honeycomb. As such, Motorola Mobility has worked closely with Google to develop and optimize the Honeycomb OS on XOOM, and has no plans to customize the software with MotoBlur.
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Agreed, that still doesn't make it a Nexus or a developer device. Meaning that Motorola is most likely to be the one responsible for updating the device.
Like it was mentioned countless of time, see this as the original DROID and history should repeat itself for updates as well as not being soiled with Motoblur.
inrelief said:
The FUD around this device is out of control.
If I were a mod I'd have to warn a large % of this thread.
If those fear mongering took one minute you could find an article such as this: http://www.intomobile.com/2011/01/21/motorola-xoom-android-motoblur/
Which confirms that, yes, the Xoom is a pure android experience device, and no, it will not be seeing motoblur.
How are debunked rumors still circulating?
(quote from the article)
To clarify, Motorola XOOM is a Google Experience Device and the first tablet to incorporate Android 3.0 Honeycomb. As such, Motorola Mobility has worked closely with Google to develop and optimize the Honeycomb OS on XOOM, and has no plans to customize the software with MotoBlur.
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Apparently this is the fox news version of a xoom thread. No fact checking
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Will the Nexus S get developer support?
I currently have a Vibrant but plan on getting the S. I notice there are SO MANY different roms for the N1. IE: MIUI ports, etc. What is everyone's stance on this? Will any of the N1 devs move to N-S?
Please, no anti-Samsung haters. I'm asking a serious question.
Thanks!
richiehd said:
I currently have a Vibrant but plan on getting the S. I notice there are SO MANY different roms for the N1. IE: MIUI ports, etc. What is everyone's stance on this? Will any of the N1 devs move to N-S?
Please, no anti-Samsung haters. I'm asking a serious question.
Thanks!
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I currently have a nexus one. And my next phone will be largely based on its development community. To me this is what makes the nexus truly what it is.
The Community.
That's why I would like to know. I love the dev's for the Vibrant too but the sheer number of amazing dev's in the N1 section is astounding. I'd love to think they will work on the N-S as well.
I most likely will NOT go for the Samsung Nexus 2, solely because it's NOT a Google Developer Phone.
I was pretty upset when the Nexus title went to a Samsung device. I've got nothing against Samsung, but I think that Google should have stuck with HTC as their Android Dev Phone manufacturer.
The Nexus "X" line of Android phones should stay with ONE manufacturer.
Motorola should have the entire Droid line of phones, just as HTC has the entire line of MyTouch phones.
Just my dos-centavos
Wasn't the plan for the NS to be the next developer phone? Just because it's not HTC doesn't mean it's not going to be good. Google most likely has their thumb on this phone to make sure everything goes as THEY want it to. I don't see Samsung messing this up with Google taking care of the updates. All the software is being updated through google.
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... Just because it's not HTC doesn't mean it's not going to be good ...
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I didn't mean to come across as that being my opinion.
Before coming to Android, I loved my Windows Mobile phones. My old Tilt, Dash, Shadow. So I'm just partial to HTC.
He likes Chevy. He likes Ford.
OrganizedFellow said:
I didn't mean to come across as that being my opinion.
Before coming to Android, I loved my Windows Mobile phones. My old Tilt, Dash, Shadow. So I'm just partial to HTC.
He likes Chevy. He likes Ford.
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Oh, trust me. I like HTC too! I also had the Shadow and the G1, my brother has the Hero. The Shadow, 2007 seems like such a long time ago when I look at my Vibrant. Haha.
If the NS is going to be given all the new software updates before the N1, I think there's a really good chance that N1 ROM devs will move to the NS.
Even if it doesn't, though, the NS will definitely get a wide range of XDA support solely because it's a Google phone.
Personally, I was going to hold off on getting the NS to find a better successor to my N1, but then I heard rumors that Samsung scrapped the original model to make it a dual-core...so maybe.
Ofcourse it will, because its the latest Google phone. And nexus1 will lost a lot of support, because most people will move to Google's latest phone - Nexus S.
Until it's announced and officially declared as ADP4, it can only be compared to G2 - which will give you a good estimate.
The Nexus S will be the next developer phone, and will most likely get all Android updates first. I'm ready to jump ship. The Nexus 1 was great, but it also has it's problems.
I watched not too long ago a youTube video.
The Google Developer did not say he had a Nexus S but it matched the pictures seen in rumors.
Questioned he said there would be no Nexus 2 but this is the Nexus S
I think the Nexus S is real, it will be seen and announced soon.
When it is released Google will be using the device for future Android development, the Nexus One will be pushed aside.
AstroDigital said:
I watched not too long ago a youTube video.
The Google Developer did not say he had a Nexus S but it matched the pictures seen in rumors.
Questioned he said there would be no Nexus 2 but this is the Nexus S
I think the Nexus S is real, it will be seen and announced soon.
When it is released Google will be using the device for future Android development, the Nexus One will be pushed aside.
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We already know its real. lol. A little late to the party
Yes I understand that but what I find confusing, then is the whole post.
Everybody knows it is real the next develop phone seems like it is given it will have developer support.
AstroDigital said:
Yes I understand that but what I find confusing, then is the whole post.
Everybody knows it is real the next develop phone seems like it is given it will have developer support.
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We know its the next "google" phone. People seem to be unsure whether it will be officially a "developer" phone.
Since the rumors have been pointing towards a retail launch (not just the google.com/phone) I think people are just assuming its going to be more of a "consumer" phone rather then a "developer" phone like the Nexus One was.
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Until it's announced and officially declared as ADP4, it can only be compared to G2 - which will give you a good estimate.
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That's what I'm waiting for.
No more blogs & their anonymous contacts & rumors.
peliROJO said:
The Nexus S will be the next developer phone, and will most likely get all Android updates first. I'm ready to jump ship. The Nexus 1 was great, but it also has it's problems.
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Speculation?
Please provide a link from a reliable source, yeah?
peliROJO said:
The Nexus S will be the next developer phone, and will most likely get all Android updates first. I'm ready to jump ship. The Nexus 1 was great, but it also has it's problems.
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Every phone will have its faults Nothings perfect
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Speculation?
Please provide a link from a reliable source, yeah?
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It's speculation. But if the rumors of dual-core Cortex A9 are true then it seems likely. Also, the greatness that is Google, we can hope that they insist this next phone is dual-core and have optimized Gingerbread for such. Why on Earth would you not switch phones!
This forum will be demanding quad-core by the end of 2011 or sooner. It's natural. So thank you Nexus 1 and G1 for the progress you have brought us. RIP
If it has "fastboot oem unlock" then it is sure to attract devs right away! That's what was awesome about the N1! No time wasted on looking for an exploit.
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If it has "fastboot oem unlock" then it is sure to attract devs right away! That's what was awesome about the N1! No time wasted on looking for an exploit.
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oh yeah. Totally forgot about that! Cyanogen tweeted that, I remember
It is being developed together with LG?
Oh well ... I was thinking Xoom is the Google Tablet ... might be not.
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/6127-google-nexus-tablet-nexus-one-s
If you thought the Motorola Xoom was supposedly Google's own device like the HTC Nexus One and Samsung Nexus S, you may be gladly mistaken.
Google Nexus Tablet to join Nexus One & S
Reports are now coming in suggesting that Google is working with LG to release a Google Nexus tablet with a newer version of Android Honeycomb (Android 3.1?).
With questionable sales and a somewhat "rough around the edge" OS, the Motorola Xoom while being the first Honeycomb tablet, may not be the flagship Android tablet after all.
The details come courtesy of Eldar Murtazin, dubbed the "James Bond of Smartphones" by Engadget. Murtazin states that the so-called Google Nexus tablet scheduled for release sometime in mid-summer or early fall.
Just like the Google Nexus One and Nexus S, this tablet will no doubt be packing new features that will remain exclusive to the tablet for sometime before rolling out to other manufacturers.
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gogol said:
It is being developed together with LG?
Oh well ... I was thinking Xoom is the Google Tablet ... might be not.
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/6127-google-nexus-tablet-nexus-one-s
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If that's the case I'm sure the xoom would get a port of this rom when/if it comes out
gogol said:
It is being developed together with LG?
Oh well ... I was thinking Xoom is the Google Tablet ... might be not.
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Makes sense... just like the phone side had the HTC Dream / G1 before the nexus one, the tablet side has the xoom to take the hit for all of honeycomb's bugs before releasing their own-branded hardware. It's the price moto pays for being first.
Everyone said, that the problem of Xoom is Honeycomb (3.0). If google brings a tablet with 3.1... i think the update from 3.0 to 3.1 of the xoom will be the same. The hardware of Xoom are not bad.
That's true ... the Xoom hardware is more than enough.
The only problem is the Android 3.0 Honeycomb. Once Google gave proper updates to make it more stable, less force close, it will all set.
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Everyone said, that the problem of Xoom is Honeycomb (3.0). If google brings a tablet with 3.1... i think the update from 3.0 to 3.1 of the xoom will be the same. The hardware of Xoom are not bad.
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Wow this is such BS. Andy Rubin has already said in interviews that the Xoom is Google's reference device like the Nexus devices. Wouldn't make any sense having another one. Either way I'm not worried about getting software updates. They're giving the a Xoom to developers to make apps for Honeycomb too.
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oh noo.. what should i do now?
XOOM is not yet release in the UK, hence i can still cancel my pre-order.
should i wait for the Nexus Tablet (not sure what to call it), or just go with XOOM?
i'm really confused with this announces...
I'll go this weekend to Miami, and i've planed to buy motorola xoom... but now...
First, the motorola xoom are heavier than samsung galaxy tab 10.1 and ipad2. but samsung have a lot of issues... My samsung galaxy S have the GPS broken... the touch wiz interface.. "i hate it" and RFS file system..
what can i do? buy motorola xoom? and die without upgrades? like milestone? buy ipad2 and die with itunes and IOS? glbenchmark said that his gpu is 10 times faster than tecra2...
i'm really confused with this.
-1 google...
Never believe Murtazin, he has no idea what he's talking about, all rumors he started was comlete BS, he's also likes to lick Steve's balls very much. I'm dead serious, Eldar Murtazin is just very bad, unprofessional "journalist".
I think we need to view the XOOM as the original DROID.
"stock" android 2.0 on DROID, followed rather quickly by the Nexus One.
Looks quite similar to me. With Honeycomb not being open sourced for the time being, I know I will be waiting now...
Yeah this kind of annoys me, having just bought the Xoom yesterday. I am glad it's stock honeycomb, I can't see the Xoom not getting future updates, and the hardware is darn good. Even after the tablets expo'd at CTIA I decided on the Xoom. We shall see I guess.
Google did put their name on the Xoom... They don't just put that on anything.
At any rate, no matter what you buy or when you get it, there's something newer, better, shinier, and faster right around the corner.
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I am curious if Google is trying to take a larger hand in the hardware side of things, possibly encouraging news if they start to push updates them selves for many devices instead of 2.
Then again, they did hand out EVOs at IO...and it is far from Googles primary device.
Maybe Google/LG putting together a Tablet that will have the new processor Kal-El. Nvidia said that we are going to see tablets this fall whit Kal-El
http://blog.laptopmag.com/nvidia-de...power-of-tegra-2-but-with-longer-battery-life
April Fools comes early this year?
I think people should stop getting their panties all twisted at every tabloid rumor, or at least nudge their brains out of park. If you bothered to look, the rumor has a single source, and the same site (mobile-review) also stated that Android 2.x devices wouldn't get the license to upgrade to 3.0. Last I checked, you don't need a license to use Android.
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April Fools comes early this year?
I think people should stop getting their panties all twisted at every tabloid rumor, or at least nudge their brains out of park. If you bothered to look, the rumor has a single source, and the same site (mobile-review) also stated that Android 2.x devices wouldn't get the license to upgrade to 3.0. Last I checked, you don't need a license to use Android.
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Not to mention this is a rumor for a tablet coming in "late summer or fall". Its March 28th right now so were a far way off from this...
e.mote said:
April Fools comes early this year?
I think people should stop getting their panties all twisted at every tabloid rumor, or at least nudge their brains out of park. If you bothered to look, the rumor has a single source, and the same site (mobile-review) also stated that Android 2.x devices wouldn't get the license to upgrade to 3.0. Last I checked, you don't need a license to use Android.
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Google may restrict what type of devices run Honeycomb so that a good user experience is maintained. I am sure there is something they can do if they really want to.
Actually, the licensing part comes wit hthe "Google" apps such as the market, they can deny access to that if they feel hardware and manufacturers don't meet their requirements.
That is how the platform works.
There is a vast difference between "may" and "will." Bill Gates may be the next Google CEO...or Charlie Sheen. The Earth may explode tomorrow from, you know, bad stuff in its core, and we won't have to worry much about anything else.
On licensing GApps -- It's not part of Android. While some may think this is a requirement to have for an Android device, it isn't. Lower-tier vendors have gotten around the issue with "unofficial" hacks. The one draw of GApps is market access, and with Amazon's store emerging as a credible alternative, what little leverage Goog has before is now even less.
The tablet exist and has Chrome OS.
not sure if anyone else noticed that motorola has a tentative upgrade to ICS list and the atrix 2 is NOT on that list. razr, bionic and xoom devices.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
IF motorola decides to upgrade the A2 to ICS, by the time they blur it up, and att approves it, there will be much better out and you'll be at your next upgrade point.
No, most of us will have just sold the phone for something else or bit the bullet and kept it while getting something else. Not exactly an upgrade in the most carrier specific sense of the term.
And yes that thought occurred to me. I'm surprised they haven't updated the list to include the Atrix 2, since it's so similar to some other phones they're upgrading to ICS.
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No, most of us will have just sold the phone for something else or bit the bullet and kept it while getting something else. Not exactly an upgrade in the most carrier specific sense of the term.
And yes that thought occurred to me. I'm surprised they haven't updated the list to include the Atrix 2, since it's so similar to some other phones they're upgrading to ICS.
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Its not entirely motos fault, its mainly att's fault
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Sigh........ I love this phone, I don't understand why everybody leaves it behind... Goddamn AT&T and Motorola!!
Motorola said it would be up to 6 weeks after ICS source code was released before they would give an update to what devices would get ICS. Right now to make the assumption we won't get it is just pure speculation since it has not been stated anywhere that we won't.
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Motorola said it would be up to 6 weeks after ICS source code was released before they would give an update to what devices would get ICS. Right now to make the assumption we won't get it is just pure speculation since it has not been stated anywhere that we won't.
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for the phones they have planned now, which is the razr and bionic. it will be a 6-8 months minimum if they choose to upgrade the atrix 2.
by then, jellybean will be releasing...
i've seen this with the x10, which att finally approved the x10a to 2.1 in june... and it never received the 2.3 update that the x10i received over seas. same phone, same hardware, just no att iron fist.
Im gonna disagree with ya. Coming from the OG ATRIX back when it was running froyo, it got gingerbread when 90%+ was still running froyo. AT&T has been better at pushing updates to their phones then any of the big 3 in my opinion. How many phones has been listed as getting ICS for sure from AT&T? Vivid and Skyrocket? ATRIX 2 was released just before them.
I know you've had problems with your phone. But take away the problems you were having would you still be getting a new phone? I have had zero problems with my phone and would bet that everyone else that has had the same luck would be very content with their phones also.
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not sure if anyone else noticed that motorola has a tentative upgrade to ICS list and the atrix 2 is NOT on that list. razr, bionic and xoom devices.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
IF motorola decides to upgrade the A2 to ICS, by the time they blur it up, and att approves it, there will be much better out and you'll be at your next upgrade point.
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Well.....
Hmmm....
I think it is coming. But as it turns out I sold my Atrix 2 today and decided to move back to CDMA service. I have just not been all that happy with AT&T in my area. SOOoooo, don't laugh. I bought a Samsung Vitality with Muve Music on cricket. It will tie me over and I am excited about the included music service. I am alot better with CDMA over GSM, so it looks like I will be grabbing a razr and getting it over to cricket. so long atrix 2 guys
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Motorola said it would be up to 6 weeks after ICS source code was released before they would give an update to what devices would get ICS. Right now to make the assumption we won't get it is just pure speculation since it has not been stated anywhere that we won't.
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I agree. If I don't see the Atrix 2 on the second wave of devices Moto has slated to get ICS then I'll start to lose faith.
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i've seen this with the x10, which att finally approved the x10a to 2.1 in june... and it never received the 2.3 update that the x10i received over seas. same phone, same hardware, just no att iron fist.
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That's not true, the X10 did get 2.3, officially, through AT&T.
That page hasn't been updated since before ICS code was released. Notice NONE of the new phones are on it nor is our MB865
This page details plans for Android software upgrades only; other various routine updates will be delivered to optimize device experiences and these will be communicated separately when deployed.
A note about Ice Cream Sandwich:
We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ (including Family Edition) and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices.
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A note about Ice Cream Sandwich:
We are planning to upgrade DROID RAZR™ by Motorola, Motorola RAZR™, Motorola XOOM™ (including Family Edition) and DROID BIONIC™ by Motorola to Ice Cream Sandwich. We will provide more precise guidance on timing after post-public push of Ice Cream Sandwich by Google, as well as any possible additions to this list of devices.
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This quote was there before the source code to ICS. Notice below where each phone is listed by country. None of those phones are listed nor is ours. What I'm saying is that this page hasnt been updated for some time
Also take note in that statement "as well as any possible additions to this list of devices." See they even State Possible Additions which could equal any number of devices.
honestly, that's my biggest issue. no one knows for sure and motorola will not say otherwise.
i have 7 days left on my 30 day return, i will not get stuck with another upgrade locked device. motorola will not say, i have no more free time with this phone.
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honestly, that's my biggest issue. no one knows for sure and motorola will not say otherwise.
i have 7 days left on my 30 day return, i will not get stuck with another upgrade locked device. motorola will not say, i have no more free time with this phone.
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I'm getting whiplash from the number of times you've told us you're done with this phone, but then somehow you're still here.
jacindc said:
I'm getting whiplash from the number of times you've told us you're done with this phone, but then somehow you're still here.
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i've been done with the phone, i went to att on tuesday to exchange, they informed me that there are new phones coming on sunday, i'm waiting to see what is coming and if current models drop in price.
One thing you will notice about the devices that were listed, they are only the Verizon devices. I still believe that we will get ICS on our phones but ATT is usually tight lipped on their updates, they happen, you just don't hear about it. I believe that part of that statement is Verizon marketing.
I think it will have an up date. Moto has no AT&T phones for the ICS update. What better phone to upgrade than this. Samsung has gs2 but honestly I think this will see the update. We have a webtop,dual core. I just don't see AT&T and moto "not" updating this. They are tight lipped as stated before.
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I think it will have an up date. Moto has no AT&T phones for the ICS update. What better phone to upgrade than this. Samsung has gs2 but honestly I think this will see the update. We have a webtop,dual core. I just don't see AT&T and moto "not" updating this. They are tight lipped as stated before.
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I completely agree.
Personally I feel if moto doesn't want to support the device anymore they should be obligated to unlock the bootloader so we can support it ourselves.
That said. I 100% believe Moto will update
the A2 to ICS.
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It sounds like some of the details are still in a rumor status but incremental update of OS is already on its way. (Not Kiwi Lime Pie). The rumor is this will be coming/to be announced within next 30 days.
According to Android Central,
Now, here is a bit of news to get the "Android" blood pumping! Hot on the heels of earlier rumors that the next Nexus phone will be based on the LG Optimus G, we have a new rumor that takes goes a step further.
According to sources over at Androidandme, the next Nexus phone is still going to be based on the LG Optimus G. Even more exciting is that we will supposedly see the device officially announced within the "next 30 days," and it will be coming with a point release update Android version 4.2. This new version of Jelly Bean will supposedly have quite a few new features, including "multi-user logins, enhanced Maps, enhanced dialer, enhanced camera features, and native support for wireless display standards like Miracast."
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...ing-lg-within-next-30-days-android-4-2-a.html
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Below is from Andropolice,
The Customization Center
This one has me the most intrigued. Apparently, it will be an area where users can change ringtones, languages, backgrounds, launchers, wallpapers, and presumably anything else to make the device "their own." Most of this stuff can already be done from the Settings menu, so it sounds like the Customization Center is going to be a central place to take care of it all, which is a little more user friendly. I can get behind that.
The UI changes are said to go deeper than that, too. The CC will offer "templates" that can be applied to the entire system, including icons. Sounds kind of like the theme engine that's been in CyanogenMod for quite some time now. This will be a quick way of letting manufacturers include their custom UI without pushing it on users. In theory, it should also mean that the custom overlay is a separate entity of sorts, so OEMs could push OTA updates to just the skin. Think of the possibilities there - the newest version of stock Android can be pushed to the device, and users will only have to wait for the updated skin. As incredible as that sounds, though, take it for what it is: a rumor, and pure speculation. I'm going to say that one more time, for the sake of clarity: pure speculation.
Updated Google Play, Google Now, and Video Player
It's a new Nexus, and a new version of Android. Of course there are going to be new apps to go along with it. According to A&M's source, Google Now will continue to improve (why wouldn't it?), and will offer new features especially for first-time Android users, like the ability to ask questions such as "where can I turn on Wi-Fi?" or the like. No more searching for things! Just ask your phone how to do it.
Also getting some new tricks is Google Play, which will supposedly be seeing "personalized search, optional promotional campaigns with notification center integration, more billing options, and easier in-app micro-transactions." All incremental differences, but differences nonetheless.
Finally, the video player will be getting a much-needed overhaul, which will include APIs so that other services can utilize it.
Project Roadrunner
When I think of "roadrunner," I think of the crazy-fast bird that Wile E. Coyote is always trying to get his hands (and teeth) on. Tangentially, I think of speed. Apparently, that's not what Project Roadrunner does, though. It's all about stamina and longevity; in short, it's about something near and dear to all of our hearts: battery life.
Project Roadrunner is said to do for the battery what Project Butter did for overall system polish and smoothness. Past that, we've got nothing. Still, it sounds fan-freakin'-tastic. Bring it.
Conclusion
What we have here are a collection of things that were said from one person to another. Does that mean they're immediately untrue? No, and given A&M's confidence in their source, we're actually leaning towards the opposite. Of course, that doesn't mean they are true, either. Just like with all other rumors, take them with a grain of salt. Or in this case, several grains.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...oject-roadrunner-updated-google-play-and-now/
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Now this is one of the strength owning ASUS product because we know if these turns out to be true, after Nexus series, we will be yet again one of the first to see these changes.
seems that google is really cranking up the quality and frequency of the updates lately. hopefully this trend continues for awhile.
Agreed. I'm hoping to have a long and prosperous relationship with many Android builds to come.
Well hmmm...
A firmware injection to JBeans could start a war or maybe just 39 new threads...
K I'm ready now.
Bring on them updates!
Wow, these rumors sound really good, but I am not sure how true they are. I am actually happy with my phone's battery life, I am still hoping for new development with project butter to get rid of all lags.We are still not at iPad-level smoothness yet.
Project Butter sped my Nexus up to incredible UI speeds, but I can't see them making a significant change to battery life. My Galaxy Nexus will always die at 4 hours screen on (on a good day). Let's just hope that the new Nexus is a bit more thought out.
lafester said:
seems that google is really cranking up the quality and frequency of the updates lately. hopefully this trend continues for awhile.
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The carriers just need to get on the ball and release them timely.
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The carriers just need to get on the ball and release them timely.
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Part of the problem is its a long process.
Google creates new version
Source given to devs for each manufacturer
Manufacturer overlays custom bits (like Touchwiz for Samsung)
Testing
Manufacturer contacts carrier for approval
Carrier's devs add customizations, bloatware, etc.
Testing
Carrier gets approval from manufacturer
Testing
once everyones OK with everything and it all checks out OK, release to public
Since half the process is not needed for our tablets and since there is very little that changes from stock google to the Infinity the process for us is very short.
For, say, the Samsung Galaxy 3 the process is a long and tedious one. This is also why for the same phone from different carriers the updates will come at different times.
Google also made an agreement with many manufacturers and carriers. Basically, Google agreed to slow down releases of updates (so everyone could keep up) and devices would see updates for at least 18 months. For more information on this check out the "Android Update Alliance".
Hopes for the AUA seem short lived however since many devices are still not seeing any updates to ICS let alone JB. In fact, somewhere in the neighborhood of half of all android devices are still on gingerbread. Yay! :/
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Project Butter sped my Nexus up to incredible UI speeds, but I can't see them making a significant change to battery life. My Galaxy Nexus will always die at 4 hours screen on (on a good day). Let's just hope that the new Nexus is a bit more thought out.
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4 hours screen on is ridiculously good! What rom/kernel you using?
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devices would see updates for at least 18 months. For more information on this check out the "Android Update Alliance".
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Certainly sounded good on paper. And with Motorola, a division of Google, not abiding by its commitment there's little incentive for others to stick to the agreement.
Android users outraged over Motorola's broken promise
Company concedes some customers got "a raw deal" in decision not to upgrade 2011 flagship devices to Ice Cream Sandwich
Doran Else bought his Photon 4G last October, lured by the fast dual-core processor and by the close relationship between Motorola and its new owner, Google. Motorola had recently joined the Android Upgrade Alliance, promising to release operating system updates to all its phones for 18 months following their release.
But for Else and thousands of others, those operating system updates turned out to be a mirage. Last Friday, buried in a Motorola forum, the company quietly abandoned its update pledge, killing off plans to ever update the Photon 4G. The Electrify, a re-branded Photon available on the US Cellular network, and the Atrix 4G, a flagship phone that debuted on AT&T in the United States, got the axe as well.
"Just seems they were happy to join the alliance when it helped them sell handsets," Else said in an e-mail. "Now that it's time to do the work, they're all dropping devices. This latest announcement from Moto is just ridiculous."
The result is that Else and thousands of people in the middle of two-year carrier contracts will have to use Android 2.3, known as Gingerbread, for the foreseeable future. Motorola had promised owners of the Photon, Electrify, and Atrix an upgrade to to Android 4.0, known as Ice Cream Sandwich, which would bring a host of new features and security updates. Instead they are stuck on Gingerbread, an operating system that was already a year old when Else bought his phone.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57526994-94/android-users-outraged-over-motorolas-broken-promise/
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4 hours screen on is ridiculously good! What rom/kernel you using?
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Might be because it's the HSPA+ version instead of the LTE version, since I'm running the stock JB ROM (not the OTA, though - I was feeling just a little impatient).
I am not sure everyone is aware of this, but the latest article on Android and Me stated that all these information above are indeed fake
http://androidandme.com/2012/10/news/retraction-recent-android-4-2-rumors-were-fake/
You are correct. They are calling it one of the greatest thought out hoaxes of our time.
I have a Razr Maxx with Verizon. It has a fantastic battery that on 4G lte lets me get through an entire day on a single charge. I use it as a GPS device with my BT ear piece, a cameria for those spur of the moment emeories which are posted on facebook or to DropBox. Its my data collector for Word or Excel documents again through DropBox, Internet surfing during the day for news as well as interesting facts. I currently have it updated to ICS without being rooted. I am surprised that other cell phone manufacturers have not jumped on whos ever battery is inside of the unit. I start out the day at 100% and end up most days at between 35% to 15% remaining charge on the battery.
you guys hear about the nexus 10 ?it's supposed to have a 2500*1600 display !!!
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lesonal said:
you guys hear about the nexus 10 ?it's supposed to have a 2500*1600 display !!!
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Mmhm.. ans the S3 was meant to have a flexible 1080p display with mind-reading tech so I'd take that resolution with a whole rock of salt. Unless they're properly solid like with the Nexus 7 or iPhone 5, I generally don't trust rumours.
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Mmhm.. ans the S3 was meant to have a flexible 1080p display with mind-reading tech so I'd take that resolution with a whole rock of salt. Unless they're properly solid like with the Nexus 7 or iPhone 5, I generally don't trust rumours.
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Well actually the flexible oled screens aren't too far away...though we're still probably a few years off, it's still cool
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A Nexus 10 with a 2560x1600 screen just isn't possible at Nexus prices.
Nexus 13 with a 3840x2400 screen WHEN?
I'm not buying no scrappy in-between resolution that's not 1080p or QuadHD. No upscaling for me thank you very much.
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you guys hear about the nexus 10 ?it's supposed to have a 2500*1600 display !!!
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If it comes out, I will buy it for sure but it won't be for a while. My guess is at the earliest March 2013 i.e. compete against 4th generation iPad.
The reason for this speculation is Samsung had just released their 10.1 inch tablet WITHOUT full HD screen. So releasing such nexus device would simply kill off the Note 10.1, which I don't think any company would do.
But it is exciting rumor/news, and I am looking forward to it. But until then, Infinity would be the one I need.