It is being developed together with LG?
Oh well ... I was thinking Xoom is the Google Tablet ... might be not.
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/6127-google-nexus-tablet-nexus-one-s
If you thought the Motorola Xoom was supposedly Google's own device like the HTC Nexus One and Samsung Nexus S, you may be gladly mistaken.
Google Nexus Tablet to join Nexus One & S
Reports are now coming in suggesting that Google is working with LG to release a Google Nexus tablet with a newer version of Android Honeycomb (Android 3.1?).
With questionable sales and a somewhat "rough around the edge" OS, the Motorola Xoom while being the first Honeycomb tablet, may not be the flagship Android tablet after all.
The details come courtesy of Eldar Murtazin, dubbed the "James Bond of Smartphones" by Engadget. Murtazin states that the so-called Google Nexus tablet scheduled for release sometime in mid-summer or early fall.
Just like the Google Nexus One and Nexus S, this tablet will no doubt be packing new features that will remain exclusive to the tablet for sometime before rolling out to other manufacturers.
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gogol said:
It is being developed together with LG?
Oh well ... I was thinking Xoom is the Google Tablet ... might be not.
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/6127-google-nexus-tablet-nexus-one-s
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If that's the case I'm sure the xoom would get a port of this rom when/if it comes out
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It is being developed together with LG?
Oh well ... I was thinking Xoom is the Google Tablet ... might be not.
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Makes sense... just like the phone side had the HTC Dream / G1 before the nexus one, the tablet side has the xoom to take the hit for all of honeycomb's bugs before releasing their own-branded hardware. It's the price moto pays for being first.
Everyone said, that the problem of Xoom is Honeycomb (3.0). If google brings a tablet with 3.1... i think the update from 3.0 to 3.1 of the xoom will be the same. The hardware of Xoom are not bad.
That's true ... the Xoom hardware is more than enough.
The only problem is the Android 3.0 Honeycomb. Once Google gave proper updates to make it more stable, less force close, it will all set.
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Everyone said, that the problem of Xoom is Honeycomb (3.0). If google brings a tablet with 3.1... i think the update from 3.0 to 3.1 of the xoom will be the same. The hardware of Xoom are not bad.
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Wow this is such BS. Andy Rubin has already said in interviews that the Xoom is Google's reference device like the Nexus devices. Wouldn't make any sense having another one. Either way I'm not worried about getting software updates. They're giving the a Xoom to developers to make apps for Honeycomb too.
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oh noo.. what should i do now?
XOOM is not yet release in the UK, hence i can still cancel my pre-order.
should i wait for the Nexus Tablet (not sure what to call it), or just go with XOOM?
i'm really confused with this announces...
I'll go this weekend to Miami, and i've planed to buy motorola xoom... but now...
First, the motorola xoom are heavier than samsung galaxy tab 10.1 and ipad2. but samsung have a lot of issues... My samsung galaxy S have the GPS broken... the touch wiz interface.. "i hate it" and RFS file system..
what can i do? buy motorola xoom? and die without upgrades? like milestone? buy ipad2 and die with itunes and IOS? glbenchmark said that his gpu is 10 times faster than tecra2...
i'm really confused with this.
-1 google...
Never believe Murtazin, he has no idea what he's talking about, all rumors he started was comlete BS, he's also likes to lick Steve's balls very much. I'm dead serious, Eldar Murtazin is just very bad, unprofessional "journalist".
I think we need to view the XOOM as the original DROID.
"stock" android 2.0 on DROID, followed rather quickly by the Nexus One.
Looks quite similar to me. With Honeycomb not being open sourced for the time being, I know I will be waiting now...
Yeah this kind of annoys me, having just bought the Xoom yesterday. I am glad it's stock honeycomb, I can't see the Xoom not getting future updates, and the hardware is darn good. Even after the tablets expo'd at CTIA I decided on the Xoom. We shall see I guess.
Google did put their name on the Xoom... They don't just put that on anything.
At any rate, no matter what you buy or when you get it, there's something newer, better, shinier, and faster right around the corner.
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I am curious if Google is trying to take a larger hand in the hardware side of things, possibly encouraging news if they start to push updates them selves for many devices instead of 2.
Then again, they did hand out EVOs at IO...and it is far from Googles primary device.
Maybe Google/LG putting together a Tablet that will have the new processor Kal-El. Nvidia said that we are going to see tablets this fall whit Kal-El
http://blog.laptopmag.com/nvidia-de...power-of-tegra-2-but-with-longer-battery-life
April Fools comes early this year?
I think people should stop getting their panties all twisted at every tabloid rumor, or at least nudge their brains out of park. If you bothered to look, the rumor has a single source, and the same site (mobile-review) also stated that Android 2.x devices wouldn't get the license to upgrade to 3.0. Last I checked, you don't need a license to use Android.
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April Fools comes early this year?
I think people should stop getting their panties all twisted at every tabloid rumor, or at least nudge their brains out of park. If you bothered to look, the rumor has a single source, and the same site (mobile-review) also stated that Android 2.x devices wouldn't get the license to upgrade to 3.0. Last I checked, you don't need a license to use Android.
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Not to mention this is a rumor for a tablet coming in "late summer or fall". Its March 28th right now so were a far way off from this...
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April Fools comes early this year?
I think people should stop getting their panties all twisted at every tabloid rumor, or at least nudge their brains out of park. If you bothered to look, the rumor has a single source, and the same site (mobile-review) also stated that Android 2.x devices wouldn't get the license to upgrade to 3.0. Last I checked, you don't need a license to use Android.
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Google may restrict what type of devices run Honeycomb so that a good user experience is maintained. I am sure there is something they can do if they really want to.
Actually, the licensing part comes wit hthe "Google" apps such as the market, they can deny access to that if they feel hardware and manufacturers don't meet their requirements.
That is how the platform works.
There is a vast difference between "may" and "will." Bill Gates may be the next Google CEO...or Charlie Sheen. The Earth may explode tomorrow from, you know, bad stuff in its core, and we won't have to worry much about anything else.
On licensing GApps -- It's not part of Android. While some may think this is a requirement to have for an Android device, it isn't. Lower-tier vendors have gotten around the issue with "unofficial" hacks. The one draw of GApps is market access, and with Amazon's store emerging as a credible alternative, what little leverage Goog has before is now even less.
The tablet exist and has Chrome OS.
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I am a big fan of the "Nexus" brand myself, it feels like Google's version of the iPhone, in that there is no carrier bloatware, or brand name UI's, just the "pure" Android OS.
I have owned the Nexus-One, and now the Nexus-S, and liked both these phones a lot. Before that I had an iPhone3G, it was cool when it first came out, but now I just feel the iOS is dated, and not up to date with Android or WinMo7.
Just curious as to what the next "nexus" phone will be, and when it's due out ? I heard rumors it will be an HTC made phone, called the Nexus-Two, running the next generation Snapdragon processor, that is dual core 1.2ghz. Not sure if it will be a 2.4 Honeycomb phone, or the 3.0 Ice cream ?
It will probably be a tablet with honeycomb on it.
we just got the second incarnation can we not talk about this now
All i know is that people are going to ***** cuz it doesnt have NFC *rolls eyes*
That brings up another question too, what are approx release dates for Honeycomb and Ice cream ?
I think Honeycomb is the 2.4 # ? And is that the one where the developers have been bragging will bring the MAJOR revisions to the UI, and really be a big leap for Android, not just the little changes from like 2.2 Froyo to 2.3 Gingerbread, but a huge leap forward ? Plus be the first release that is made for dual core ?
Then not sure what Ice Cream 3.0 is, if Honeycomb brings the major UI changes.
My assumption is that HTC will regain access to AMOLED and Google will return to them. And the Tegra platform is looking to be the most mainstream next year, they even announced Tegra 3
Nexus 2, Nexus 3, Nexus X, Nexus G, whatever
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That brings up another question too, what are approx release dates for Honeycomb and Ice cream ?
I think Honeycomb is the 2.4 # ? And is that the one where the developers have been bragging will bring the MAJOR revisions to the UI, and really be a big leap for Android, not just the little changes from like 2.2 Froyo to 2.3 Gingerbread, but a huge leap forward ? Plus be the first release that is made for dual core ?
Then not sure what Ice Cream 3.0 is, if Honeycomb brings the major UI changes.
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It's most likely that Honeycomb is 3.0 as it will be a massive jump for tablets and phones. the 2.4 rumor was just a random tipster from androidandme.com which has no credibility at all.
But we don't know until Google officially announces it.
Thanks for the info Yeah I heard "Honeycomb" comes out on the next gen tablets due out in Feb, and then will be brought to the phones in like May or so, to be released before iPhone 5.
The spy shots of that 10" Motorola tablet looks pretty sweet.
Motorola Nexus Tab Will be out early 2011 with Honeycomb.
As far as a phone goes? No one knows. And won't know til late 2011.
I think I read something recently where Google said the Nexus brand phones will not just be the annual Christmas release only. But that there will be a "nexus" device launched with every major OS update. And that the next Nexus device will be a Honeycomb tablet. And the next Nexus phone will be running Android 3.0 "ice cream"
Guess time will tell...for now I am very happy with my Nexus-S
Well it usually takes a year for them to release such a large incremental update.
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My assumption is that HTC will regain access to AMOLED and Google will return to them. And the Tegra platform is looking to be the most mainstream next year, they even announced Tegra 3
Nexus 2, Nexus 3, Nexus X, Nexus G, whatever
It's most likely that Honeycomb is 3.0 as it will be a massive jump for tablets and phones. the 2.4 rumor was just a random tipster from androidandme.com which has no credibility at all.
But we don't know until Google officially announces it.
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Gingerbread - 2.3
Honeycomb - 3.0 (for tablets and phones soon)
Ice Cream -3.5
The more important question is, how many desert names can they come up with to apply for the rest of the alphabet? And what happens after Z?
Z = Zingers an American Snack cake... as for after that, it is anyone's guess. Maybe fruit?
Nexus M and Motorola makes it. Just a guess.
I can't wait for cookie dough.
Nexus is chosen from whomever sells the most Android phones. Nothing more.
The next Nexus will be, compared to the specifications, very fast.
It will also lack something people are going to start a couple of thousand threads about.
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The next Nexus will be, compared to the specifications, very fast.
It will also lack something people are going to start a couple of thousand threads about.
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^
Folks might complain about not having something to complain about, too.
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Nexus M and Motorola makes it. Just a guess.
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That's my guess as well. I see Google giving everyone a shot at the Nexus brand, in the spirit of openness. Not sure how the names will go, but it won't be held to Samsung/HTC, it'll go to whoever has the best to offer and can provide the best bang-for-buck.
Yeah I'm guessing Moto. Something doesn't feel right about them going back to HTC-- I doubt Google will want any speculation that there is a favored hardware developer. Google is juggling a ton of Android handset makers and will likely do everything to make sure they don't shift to WP7.
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Seriously, I saw a couple of reviews of the Nexus S which had actually 'NFC isn't very useful yet' as a con! That's just stupid.
On topic: I really hope Sony Ericsson. I would never buy a 'normal' Android phone from SE, because of the drastically changed interface and the Xperia X10 with 2.1 not getting updates anymore, ever. But their phones are soooo sexy. Look at the upcoming Arc! Wow! If they co-operate with Google, the only thing SE will be the master of is the outside of the phone. Google determines the interface, the updates, if dual-core is needed, etc. etc.
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/nvidia-clears-up-tegra-confusion-no-devices-left-behind-pr-blunders/
http://briefmobile.com/nvidia-to-continue-support-on-all-tegra-devices-until-oems-drop-support
It looks like we might have jumped the gun on assuming no more support from NVidia. They have since come back and basically said they are continuing to support the hardware as far as the Manufacturer wants to go. So now it's on Viewsonic to bring us that sweet honeycomb. Additionally they stated that they are going to be helping out the developer community!!! This great news! So we should be seeing some great stuff coming!
"Finally, while we cannot support or give out third party peripheral drivers or provide the Android 3.0 source before Google does, we do want to explore whether we can assist the open source ROM makers. We will be reaching out to them today." - From official statement from NVidia on 4/13/2011
I was reading the phandroid article while I was on the can today, and it was a relief, although I kind of figured that Nvidia wasn't going to entirely cut the plug on the harmony line. Hopefully one of the manufacturers opts to support the harmony line.
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I was reading the phandroid article while I was on the can today, and it was a relief, although I kind of figured that Nvidia wasn't going to entirely cut the plug on the harmony line. Hopefully one of the manufacturers opts to support the harmony line.
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Double relief? Bonus!
when do we get the drivers for Gingerbread?
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when do we get the drivers for Gingerbread?
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Who knows, the bigger question would be, "when is Google planning on releasing Honeycomb source code.. if ever"
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Who knows, the bigger question would be, "when is Google planning on releasing Gingerbread source code.. if ever"
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Umm, gingerbread source has been released for MONTHS now. I am guessing you mean Honeycomb?
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Who knows, the bigger question would be, "when is Google planning on releasing Gingerbread source code.. if ever"
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gingerbread has been released for months, but no driver for our chipset from Nvidia. I am worried bout getting Gingerbread fixed, and get them to agree on Honeycomb.
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gingerbread has been released for months, but no driver for our chipset from Nvidia. I am worried bout getting Gingerbread fixed, and get them to agree on Honeycomb.
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I agree.. Lets try to get a fully stable gingerbread 2.3 OS and get everyone updated to 2.3 and then while we play with 2.3 the devs can play and get the honeycomb on the way.
Good news indeed. I just bought one and was facing a dismal reality of having bought something that was already obsolete.
Yet they are slashing prices like crazy eddie
They may be supporting it, but amazon.com just released the Gtab on sale for 300 and office depot....
If people keep buying them up, then i hope the love and support continues...
I love my gtab. and nook color
I love my droid1, which incidently is going to be retired for an LG Optimus V , but only bc I find i use my tablets way more now, so i dont feel the need for a 4 inch monster phone. and I am going to try and make it work with a $40 a month Virgin mobile 1200 minute plan...
Sam
It is all in Viewsonics hands now. As long as Viewsonic keeps developing releases for the G-tablet, Nvidia will make drivers for it.
I am still not very convinced that they are going to support it. I think they are just trying to quiet us down a little by making that statement.
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They may be supporting it, but amazon.com just released the Gtab on sale for 300 and office depot....
If people keep buying them up, then i hope the love and support continues...
I love my gtab. and nook color
I love my droid1, which incidently is going to be retired for an LG Optimus V , but only bc I find i use my tablets way more now, so i dont feel the need for a 4 inch monster phone. and I am going to try and make it work with a $40 a month Virgin mobile 1200 minute plan...
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2 points for the Crazy Eddie reference.
Maybe people will see there is a market for a sub $300 tablet since these and the nook color's are flying off the virtual shelves.
I've debating going to tablet/dumb phone. I gave up on smart phones for a while and went PDA/dumb phone. But that ended when I got a Treo.
Maybe an LTE Xoom and a cheapo phone is a better idea in the long run, let me price that out...
Does anyone think that maybe this a little early to rejoice yet?
I've read the articles, and my interpretation is damage control.
Both companies (Viewsonic and Nvidia) are claiming to stand by their products with one side of the mouth while contridicting it with the other. Viewsonic said it would continue to support the G tab, but due to complication and other factors doesn't know for sure whether it can get get any more updates. Nvidia is claiming to still support harmony as well as manufaturers do, but Viewsonic (a manufaturer) is claiming it isn't getting any support from nvidia. Plus the fact that other then viewsonic's name it, they haven't had anything to do with development with the G tab to date. (Rebranded a Malata Z Pad and paid TNT to supply the OS).
I for one will be seriously suprised if we can get Gingerbread drivers and figure HC may get to to where Gingerbread is now (working, no hardware acceleration) once AOSP is released.
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I was reading the phandroid article while I was on the can today, and it was a relief, although I kind of figured that Nvidia wasn't going to entirely cut the plug on the harmony line. Hopefully one of the manufacturers opts to support the harmony line.
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What was the relief? The article or the cannage?
I have a feeling at the end it will be a finger pointing situation, with both manufactures blaming each other on not producing a thing. We will be entirely forgotten as soon as the next generation is out.
Hmm... let's hope we can get 3.0 for sure.
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I am still not very convinced that they are going to support it. I think they are just trying to quiet us down a little by making that statement.
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I agree.
The uproar brought by us (somewhat rabid) fans probably made the PR guys get a little quivery at the potential backlash being "hinted" at.
I'll believe this so-called continued support when I load it on my Gtab. I don't know of any real confirmation from Viewsonic that they are working on a Gingerbread release, let alone Honeycomb.
I'm sure there will be more than a few people here that will continue to talk to VS to make sure we are not forgotten. Props to tunnel visioned g tab lovers!
I'm still not sold on the whole "we must wait on Google..." excuse. That may wash for Honeycomb, but what about Gingerbread?
I have a wifi xoom and although it has some great features but the force closes and the non functioning sd card (from the factory) is very annoying. I thought Moto and google would have a fix by now. The force closes make me mad. I have 15 days left to return and will do so if there is not a major update before then. I should have know better than to expect Moto to do anything right.
Here is an quote from an article in the Wall Street Journal about xoom sales.
"Global Equities analyst Trip Chowdry estimates that Motorola Mobility has manufactured between 500,000 and 800,000 Xooms, but has sold only 5 to 15 percent of them.
Best case scenario then, according to Chowdry, is that Motorola has sold 120,000 Xooms; worse case scenario, it’s sold just 25,000. Now, admittedly, that’s a very large range, and one could argue that it makes Chowdry’s estimate largely meaningless. But remember that original forecasts suggested Motorola would sell between 3 and 5 million Xooms this year and earlier this month some analysts were calling for first quarter sales of 300,000.
In other words, even Chowdry’s best case scenario is a worst case scenario. It’s just a bit less ugly."
Personally, I could care less how many have been sold. I love my Xoom and maybe I'm lucky but I haven't faced many of the problems I read about here.
As for SD card support, I'm not bothered by that either. I have no need for a SD card at this time. 32GB is plenty of storage for me.
I'm treating Honeycomb the same way I did with android 1.0. Its basically a new platform and the apps and fixes will come as more tablets hit the market.
I heard all the same jargon in the media after I pre-ordered my G1. Well look at android now.
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Personally, I could care less how many have been sold. I love my Xoom and maybe I'm lucky but I haven't faced many of the problems I read about here.
As for SD card support, I'm not bothered by that either. I have no need for a SD card at this time. 32GB is plenty of storage for me.
I'm treating Honeycomb the same way I did with android 1.0. Its basically a new platform and the apps and fixes will come as more tablets hit the market.
I heard all the same jargon in the media after I pre-ordered my G1. Well look at android now.
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I feel the same way. No announcement was made as to when an update would come. I'm sure everyone knew the SD slot wasn't functioning way before they purchased the device.
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It will be DOA if we keep starting threads like "Is the XOOM DOA" and prospective customers see all these threads in search engines.
Then prospective customers start having unfounded doubts and the XOOM's demise becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.
First of all, many of us knew that Xoom won't sell that well. This is because it's new, OS is new, hardware is new, everything about it is new and many people don't want to be lab rats. But with Moto rolling out Xoom on other networks in many countries will help sales. And we will have to wait till Thursday for Motorola to announce their earnings and see how many they sold.
Secondly, I understand the frustration of lacking SD support but I personally don't really care since I never really used my microSD on my N900.
And about force closes, like I said everything about Xoom is new and it was first to the punch. Other honeycomb tabs will have everything working, but Xoom was still first and that what counts.
I would never return mine, I would never even sell mine after Xoom2 arrives. Why? Because it is the first and maybe even one of the only "Pure Google Experience" devices that will be available.
Simple answer. No.
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Google needs to release a big Honeycomb update including one that enables the mircoSD card slot, Motorola needs to lower the price and release 16GB models and more manufactures need to release more tablets which will bring in more tablet apps. If you had your Xoom since day one like I have, you will already see the improvement in the selection of tablet apps. I hope that the microSD card slot is fixed soon though. Watching the new tablets come out with working slots is starting to make the Xoom look abandoned.
Despite this, I love my Xoom and it will get better with time. Who else has a working Barometer by the way? lol
i don't care about the sd card function cause i still have 32GB for my media. however, i have a terrible experience with my xoom's web browser ( even i tried another web browser apps like dophin...)Yes, surfing web is the main point for me to buy this tablet. Web browser is FC a lot (besides, it made my xoom rebooted once), stuck at loading pages (i have to go to app manager=> force close web browser..), Flash doesn't work properly. I never had this terrible experience with my android devices before. I understand that Honeycomb is a new OS, and it will be improved over by next updates but how can't google/motorola/ adobe make sure some basic functions work well before selling their products ?
What would have all the customers who went to buy an ipad2 have done when they got to the store and were told they would have to take a number and wait a month or more? BUY A XOOM!!! This was great timing for Moto to deliver the product but kinda sucks for the consumer at first. However, this is not the first time a company has done this. And as someone laready pointed out, if you have had the Xoom from day one you will have already seen the improvement in the app market. Also remember that the honeycomb source has not been released yet. When that happens you will see things explode here on XDA. So if you have filled up your 32g internal storage, and their just are not enough apps for you at this time and so on........return your Xoom and take a number for the ipad! (it has Netflix out of the box). If you are one of those people who just like to complain, well then I got nothing for you. Otherwise be patient and enjoy what you have. Good things WILL come to our Xoom's!!!
For the record: I have NEVER considered an ipad. And I am very happy with my Xoom!
I just don't get these type of posts. So because you hated the xoom or the wsj says it hasn't sold enough everyone else should go and return their xooms. What should I get an I pad 2? What if I want my websites to work with flash? What if I want actual multitasking? So get an I pad 2 that doesn't even have an SD slot forget when it will be activated.
Anyway, I have been happy with the xoom.
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I just don't get these type of posts. So because you hated the xoom or the wsj says it hasn't sold enough everyone else should go and return their xooms. What should I get an I pad 2? What if I want my websites to work with flash? What if I want actual multitasking? So get an I pad 2 that doesn't even have an SD slot forget when it will be activated.
Anyway, I have been happy with the xoom.
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i don't want to get a lot of FC on my web browser. this is the only thing i complain.
I want the Xoom to work. I do not own a single Apple product. I am not patient enough to wait months for the Xoom and Honeycomb to work. I want to be able to root and load new themes and Myn's Warm Honeycomb but Google has already said they would not release the sources code anytime soon.
If no one is buying the Xoom, the developers will not develop apps and it may never reach the point where it is a commercial success. I will stick with the Xoom if a significant upgrade comes very soon.
Everywhere I go the xoom seems to be sold out and people are constantly asking for it. It may not have that "Apple" demand but people are interested, I love mine, cant wait for some more apps and updates to come out so it will be a beast!
this post is DOA
This is the beauty of Android, It doesn't matter about the Xoom Google will keep developing 3.0 and onward.
with Apple if interest in a new product dips it dies!
Thats why clean OS's like the xoom will always win the day and thats why extra software just slows down development!
there is more sense in nonsense
remember that!
We do need a way to release frustration and these blogs are it. This is a first honeycomb version, effectively a beta. On the other hand, I feel for Motorola, as when that update comes long, they will have to spend millions double handling the already sold Xoom.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Xoom, and I can see its potential.
I am sure one of the reasons people are not buying Xooms is that thay'd rather wait until it is finished, and some more of bugs are squashed (See googles bug tracket) the SD card is one of the lesser problems.
When that happens we will be riding a steeper adoption curve that will scare apple a little.
I found that every store in the st. Louis area that carries the xoom was sold out so I had to order mine from amazon (not a big fan). So its a bit shocking to hear that sales are bad. Maybe they just didn't make enough. Maybe its been selling fine for motorola and its the market that had unrealistic expectations.
In any case, I think as more manufactures produce more honeycomb tablets the momentum will pick up just like what happened with android phones. The g1 did not exactly fly off the self when it was introduced. Hell I didn't which from blackberry until recently.
Some of this is part of being an early adopter. I mine the ipad2 is simiply a scaled up iphone so no surprise that it works well the os has been out for some time. Honeycomb is a much bigger jump for android and therefore the problems
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The crazy amount of FUD surrounding the xoom makes me wonder if there's some propaganda machine in operation.
I don't even think that the problem is the software or bugs. I think the main thing that hurt the Xoom is price. After announcing the price Motorola did not listen to consumers and they stuck with their pricing, which ultimately hurt the success of the xoom. Prime example is the Asus Transformer, they are flying of shelves, not because of the dock as much as the price.
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I found that every store in the st. Louis area that carries the xoom was sold out so I had to order mine from amazon (not a big fan). So its a bit shocking to hear that sales are bad. Maybe they just didn't make enough. Maybe its been selling fine for motorola and its the market that had unrealistic expectations.
In any case, I think as more manufactures produce more honeycomb tablets the momentum will pick up just like what happened with android phones. The g1 did not exactly fly off the self when it was introduced. Hell I didn't which from blackberry until recently.
Some of this is part of being an early adopter. I mine the ipad2 is simiply a scaled up iphone so no surprise that it works well the os has been out for some time. Honeycomb is a much bigger jump for android and therefore the problems
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HC is new, but overall it is still based on android. Why does it have a lot of bugs?
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From what I have seen so far ... stores are sold out, dont have accesories, (which means it is obviously selling out) and in best buy the tablets are with the computers (not with the tablets!), how are people/consumers supposed to know about it and that it is a tablet that is better than the pad when there is a big ipad2 display while the xoom is over by all the laptops and when you ask for it they take you to the zune stuff?
Oh well, and from what i have seen lately, displays are popping up, I have seen more commercials on tv, and now I hope store start stocking it to show it off.. that is the only way to sell it. I think the xoom will do just fine and as it was mentioned earlier in this thread, xoom will not die because android will not die, just wait and see
XOOM FTW!
Has the transformer received android 3.1 yet because it has become available for tablets like the motorola xoom
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No, not yet. 3.1 was just announced today and is only rolling out to Verizon Xooms. For the moment, no other tablet, including the Wifi Xoom, is getting the update.
Nope. It ain't that easy, unfortunately. Each hardware manufacturer has to fine tune their device to make it compatible with the upgrade, or better phrased, to take advantage of all new features. It's not all Steve Job's happy Apple world out there where one update is good for all devices, no matter if a small or big phone
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It's not all Steve Job's happy Apple world out there where one update is good for all devices, no matter if a small or big phone
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Wrong ;P iPad/iPhone GSM/iPhone CDMA/iPod Touch use different firmwares.
We have no idea how long they've had access to the 3.1 code or what their process is for testing updates. If they (ASUS) are really proactive about updating, I would think that it would be at least 30 days until we see or hear about an update for the Transformer. If it's sooner, I'll be thrilled.
I highly doubt we'll be getting it this year even. Asus's main priority is (or should be) getting these devices stocked and sold as soon as possible because they'll be taking a huge hit once the Galaxy Tabs become available. They're not even thinking about fixing/upgrading the software.
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Wrong ;P iPad/iPhone GSM/iPhone CDMA/iPod Touch use different firmwares.
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See, not even THAT world is perfect LOL
akarol said:
I highly doubt we'll be getting it this year even. Asus's main priority is (or should be) getting these devices stocked and sold as soon as possible because they'll be taking a huge hit once the Galaxy Tabs become available. They're not even thinking about fixing/upgrading the software.
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I don't think they move the guys from software development to shipping/receiving depending on demand...
akarol said:
I highly doubt we'll be getting it this year even. Asus's main priority is (or should be) getting these devices stocked and sold as soon as possible because they'll be taking a huge hit once the Galaxy Tabs become available. They're not even thinking about fixing/upgrading the software.
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Software developement and production are handled by different groups. One wouldn't impact the other. They can work on getting software ready then deliver it via OTA update.
If Asus doesn't provide the update within a month, or announces soon that that they're working on it and it will be out soon, this will be going up for sale for either the Xoom (again) or the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Yep, same here. I'll wait for something else...
And they had better be working on updates, at least fixing the 60%+ of people who can't use their dock doorstops...
Bugs are part of computers, and we are early adopters but I am not very pleased about not being able to use it at all right now...
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I don't think they move the guys from software development to shipping/receiving depending on demand...
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LMAO, exactly what I was thinking. I don't give a crap what my marketing/production team is doing, I'm still a code-monkey and would want to be proactive to fix all the found bugs in my current software.
I think Asus will release Android 3.1 for the Transformer in the next 2 to 3 weeks. It would make sense that they have the code already as a manufacturer, and they would want to stay ahead of the Galaxy tab 10.1 which seems like will be realease with 3.1 installed.
Just my opinion,
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I don't think they move the guys from software development to shipping/receiving depending on demand...
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Ha! Exactly.
WANTED: Android developer. Must also be able to lift heavy boxes for prolonged periods of time.
Wow. Android 3.1 was just announced this morning and already people are threatening to buy something else if Asus doesn't release the update. Yeesh.
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Let them get the current bugs squashed, especially w/ the keyboard dock, then let's worry about getting 3.1.
Given the demand for the TF, I would think that they would have an interest in keeping it at the top of the heap for as long as possible - i.e. get it updated w/ the latest iteration of HC as quickly as possible.
Of COURSE they'll want to get updated as soon as possible. Why wouldn't they? I swear, people are getting more and more ridiculous every day. In every forum for every product, if a company doesn't announce something within 15 minutes of someone demanding it, people start pulling out the tar and feathers.
I mean, seriously, why WOULDN'T Asus update the Transformer? What reason do we have for believing they won't? The only examples we have of what Asus might do with this product has been provided by the two updates they've issued in about a month, the presence of Asus personnel on this very forum helping people out with an unfortunate glitch with the last update, issuing a fixed update for manual install on their Web site within days of the glitch being identified (which required working on it over the weekend), and in general communicating better than I've seen any other Android manufacturer communicate in recent memory.
I say, if we haven't heard about an update to 3.1 within 30 days of today, then we'd have some reason to complain and wonder when we'll get one. But a few hours after it was announced by Google? Seriously?
Ye gads, people, get lives, will you?
(Rant over.)
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Yes, because the same three guys that developed the Tablet are the same 3 guys that fullfill orders and then package them and ship them!
Why are people do so willing to (threaten to) sell their Transformer if there's no announcement? How long till the other tablets get 3.1. You know, the old Samsung Tab, the G-Slate, the Viewsonic GTablet, etc. Oh that's right... nobody knows.
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LOL, didn't Amazon used to make it's upper level people work in any dept that needed extra manpower?
It sounds like some of the details are still in a rumor status but incremental update of OS is already on its way. (Not Kiwi Lime Pie). The rumor is this will be coming/to be announced within next 30 days.
According to Android Central,
Now, here is a bit of news to get the "Android" blood pumping! Hot on the heels of earlier rumors that the next Nexus phone will be based on the LG Optimus G, we have a new rumor that takes goes a step further.
According to sources over at Androidandme, the next Nexus phone is still going to be based on the LG Optimus G. Even more exciting is that we will supposedly see the device officially announced within the "next 30 days," and it will be coming with a point release update Android version 4.2. This new version of Jelly Bean will supposedly have quite a few new features, including "multi-user logins, enhanced Maps, enhanced dialer, enhanced camera features, and native support for wireless display standards like Miracast."
http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...ing-lg-within-next-30-days-android-4-2-a.html
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Below is from Andropolice,
The Customization Center
This one has me the most intrigued. Apparently, it will be an area where users can change ringtones, languages, backgrounds, launchers, wallpapers, and presumably anything else to make the device "their own." Most of this stuff can already be done from the Settings menu, so it sounds like the Customization Center is going to be a central place to take care of it all, which is a little more user friendly. I can get behind that.
The UI changes are said to go deeper than that, too. The CC will offer "templates" that can be applied to the entire system, including icons. Sounds kind of like the theme engine that's been in CyanogenMod for quite some time now. This will be a quick way of letting manufacturers include their custom UI without pushing it on users. In theory, it should also mean that the custom overlay is a separate entity of sorts, so OEMs could push OTA updates to just the skin. Think of the possibilities there - the newest version of stock Android can be pushed to the device, and users will only have to wait for the updated skin. As incredible as that sounds, though, take it for what it is: a rumor, and pure speculation. I'm going to say that one more time, for the sake of clarity: pure speculation.
Updated Google Play, Google Now, and Video Player
It's a new Nexus, and a new version of Android. Of course there are going to be new apps to go along with it. According to A&M's source, Google Now will continue to improve (why wouldn't it?), and will offer new features especially for first-time Android users, like the ability to ask questions such as "where can I turn on Wi-Fi?" or the like. No more searching for things! Just ask your phone how to do it.
Also getting some new tricks is Google Play, which will supposedly be seeing "personalized search, optional promotional campaigns with notification center integration, more billing options, and easier in-app micro-transactions." All incremental differences, but differences nonetheless.
Finally, the video player will be getting a much-needed overhaul, which will include APIs so that other services can utilize it.
Project Roadrunner
When I think of "roadrunner," I think of the crazy-fast bird that Wile E. Coyote is always trying to get his hands (and teeth) on. Tangentially, I think of speed. Apparently, that's not what Project Roadrunner does, though. It's all about stamina and longevity; in short, it's about something near and dear to all of our hearts: battery life.
Project Roadrunner is said to do for the battery what Project Butter did for overall system polish and smoothness. Past that, we've got nothing. Still, it sounds fan-freakin'-tastic. Bring it.
Conclusion
What we have here are a collection of things that were said from one person to another. Does that mean they're immediately untrue? No, and given A&M's confidence in their source, we're actually leaning towards the opposite. Of course, that doesn't mean they are true, either. Just like with all other rumors, take them with a grain of salt. Or in this case, several grains.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...oject-roadrunner-updated-google-play-and-now/
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Now this is one of the strength owning ASUS product because we know if these turns out to be true, after Nexus series, we will be yet again one of the first to see these changes.
seems that google is really cranking up the quality and frequency of the updates lately. hopefully this trend continues for awhile.
Agreed. I'm hoping to have a long and prosperous relationship with many Android builds to come.
Well hmmm...
A firmware injection to JBeans could start a war or maybe just 39 new threads...
K I'm ready now.
Bring on them updates!
Wow, these rumors sound really good, but I am not sure how true they are. I am actually happy with my phone's battery life, I am still hoping for new development with project butter to get rid of all lags.We are still not at iPad-level smoothness yet.
Project Butter sped my Nexus up to incredible UI speeds, but I can't see them making a significant change to battery life. My Galaxy Nexus will always die at 4 hours screen on (on a good day). Let's just hope that the new Nexus is a bit more thought out.
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seems that google is really cranking up the quality and frequency of the updates lately. hopefully this trend continues for awhile.
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The carriers just need to get on the ball and release them timely.
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The carriers just need to get on the ball and release them timely.
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Part of the problem is its a long process.
Google creates new version
Source given to devs for each manufacturer
Manufacturer overlays custom bits (like Touchwiz for Samsung)
Testing
Manufacturer contacts carrier for approval
Carrier's devs add customizations, bloatware, etc.
Testing
Carrier gets approval from manufacturer
Testing
once everyones OK with everything and it all checks out OK, release to public
Since half the process is not needed for our tablets and since there is very little that changes from stock google to the Infinity the process for us is very short.
For, say, the Samsung Galaxy 3 the process is a long and tedious one. This is also why for the same phone from different carriers the updates will come at different times.
Google also made an agreement with many manufacturers and carriers. Basically, Google agreed to slow down releases of updates (so everyone could keep up) and devices would see updates for at least 18 months. For more information on this check out the "Android Update Alliance".
Hopes for the AUA seem short lived however since many devices are still not seeing any updates to ICS let alone JB. In fact, somewhere in the neighborhood of half of all android devices are still on gingerbread. Yay! :/
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Project Butter sped my Nexus up to incredible UI speeds, but I can't see them making a significant change to battery life. My Galaxy Nexus will always die at 4 hours screen on (on a good day). Let's just hope that the new Nexus is a bit more thought out.
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4 hours screen on is ridiculously good! What rom/kernel you using?
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devices would see updates for at least 18 months. For more information on this check out the "Android Update Alliance".
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Certainly sounded good on paper. And with Motorola, a division of Google, not abiding by its commitment there's little incentive for others to stick to the agreement.
Android users outraged over Motorola's broken promise
Company concedes some customers got "a raw deal" in decision not to upgrade 2011 flagship devices to Ice Cream Sandwich
Doran Else bought his Photon 4G last October, lured by the fast dual-core processor and by the close relationship between Motorola and its new owner, Google. Motorola had recently joined the Android Upgrade Alliance, promising to release operating system updates to all its phones for 18 months following their release.
But for Else and thousands of others, those operating system updates turned out to be a mirage. Last Friday, buried in a Motorola forum, the company quietly abandoned its update pledge, killing off plans to ever update the Photon 4G. The Electrify, a re-branded Photon available on the US Cellular network, and the Atrix 4G, a flagship phone that debuted on AT&T in the United States, got the axe as well.
"Just seems they were happy to join the alliance when it helped them sell handsets," Else said in an e-mail. "Now that it's time to do the work, they're all dropping devices. This latest announcement from Moto is just ridiculous."
The result is that Else and thousands of people in the middle of two-year carrier contracts will have to use Android 2.3, known as Gingerbread, for the foreseeable future. Motorola had promised owners of the Photon, Electrify, and Atrix an upgrade to to Android 4.0, known as Ice Cream Sandwich, which would bring a host of new features and security updates. Instead they are stuck on Gingerbread, an operating system that was already a year old when Else bought his phone.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57526994-94/android-users-outraged-over-motorolas-broken-promise/
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4 hours screen on is ridiculously good! What rom/kernel you using?
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Might be because it's the HSPA+ version instead of the LTE version, since I'm running the stock JB ROM (not the OTA, though - I was feeling just a little impatient).
I am not sure everyone is aware of this, but the latest article on Android and Me stated that all these information above are indeed fake
http://androidandme.com/2012/10/news/retraction-recent-android-4-2-rumors-were-fake/
You are correct. They are calling it one of the greatest thought out hoaxes of our time.
I have a Razr Maxx with Verizon. It has a fantastic battery that on 4G lte lets me get through an entire day on a single charge. I use it as a GPS device with my BT ear piece, a cameria for those spur of the moment emeories which are posted on facebook or to DropBox. Its my data collector for Word or Excel documents again through DropBox, Internet surfing during the day for news as well as interesting facts. I currently have it updated to ICS without being rooted. I am surprised that other cell phone manufacturers have not jumped on whos ever battery is inside of the unit. I start out the day at 100% and end up most days at between 35% to 15% remaining charge on the battery.
you guys hear about the nexus 10 ?it's supposed to have a 2500*1600 display !!!
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you guys hear about the nexus 10 ?it's supposed to have a 2500*1600 display !!!
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Mmhm.. ans the S3 was meant to have a flexible 1080p display with mind-reading tech so I'd take that resolution with a whole rock of salt. Unless they're properly solid like with the Nexus 7 or iPhone 5, I generally don't trust rumours.
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Mmhm.. ans the S3 was meant to have a flexible 1080p display with mind-reading tech so I'd take that resolution with a whole rock of salt. Unless they're properly solid like with the Nexus 7 or iPhone 5, I generally don't trust rumours.
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Well actually the flexible oled screens aren't too far away...though we're still probably a few years off, it's still cool
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A Nexus 10 with a 2560x1600 screen just isn't possible at Nexus prices.
Nexus 13 with a 3840x2400 screen WHEN?
I'm not buying no scrappy in-between resolution that's not 1080p or QuadHD. No upscaling for me thank you very much.
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you guys hear about the nexus 10 ?it's supposed to have a 2500*1600 display !!!
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If it comes out, I will buy it for sure but it won't be for a while. My guess is at the earliest March 2013 i.e. compete against 4th generation iPad.
The reason for this speculation is Samsung had just released their 10.1 inch tablet WITHOUT full HD screen. So releasing such nexus device would simply kill off the Note 10.1, which I don't think any company would do.
But it is exciting rumor/news, and I am looking forward to it. But until then, Infinity would be the one I need.