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I mean, we would get Infuse 4G in this spring. However that is not Galaxy S 2, just overclocked Captivate with better screen. Rumors confirmed that new Galaxy S series will come with Orion processor that is duelcore hummingbird. I know android OS and apps are not optimized to duel core so it could be useless battery hog until it get honeycomb.
But most concerning point is Infuse 4G will come with froyo and take time forever to get gingerbread, it is really dealbeaker. Also Infuse 4G will have no international brother like i9000 which is our ROM source.
Should I end up contract to AT&T and move on other carrier?
Given Galaxy S2 is still under tight wrap waiting to be announced at MWC, it is too early to talk about whether or not AT&T will get it.
Officially, Galaxy S2 does not even exit. So how do you know AT&T won't get it.
So far, the only Android OS I saw that mentioned dual-core support is HoneyComb (3.0) which is only for tablet. Gingerbread does not support dual core. So, having a dual core phone right now is quite useless, the other half will just stay unused.
Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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T-mobile sucks in this area...so that really isn't a good alternative IMHO...and I have absolutely no idea what you are saying about the fragmentation..There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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Truer words have never been spoken.
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There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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QF the muther******* T!
there are rumors of the nexus s coming for at&t.
engadget dot com/2011/01/27/nexus-s-coming-in-a-new-atandt-flavor/
and at&t itself has said that this year they'll be bringing a lot of top end android phones (not gimping them to make iphone look superior). a good side-effect of them losing iphone exclusivity.
i'd wait for feb14-17 for the mobile world conference to get a better idea of which phones are coming.
Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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I'm with you on that. Samsuck is dead to me. As soon as the Atrix or Optimus 2X hits AT&T I'm ditching my Captivate immediately.
I would like to leave AT&T too, but where I live, they have the best 3G speeds. With HSDPA/HSUPA enabled I get 2Mb down/1.5 Mb up. Verizon here cant touch that. Everybody at work has VZW and they get about 700kb up and down.
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Here, here!
Unless it's the Nexus S, don't buy a Samsung anything. You'll regret it.
A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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Very Good Phone
im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
This will be my last Samsung as well. Thankfully Andromeda 1.0 makes it a usable phone to get me through this contract.
Yeah, the GPS leaves a lot to be desired. I've managed to finally get a ROM/Kernel/Modem combination that is stable, and can keep a GPS lock.
The only other Samsung phone I had prior to this was the WinMo Blackjack. Back then I didn't know enough about smartphones to be aware that it was horrible.
But, hey, I got my Captivate for free. Christmas present from my girlfriend, and she only paid $70 for the phone, screen protector, and 16 gig microSD card. So, I can't complain too much.
I am grateful to the Captivate, though. Without it, I wouldn't have learned about Android, and what true customization is all about.
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A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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Honestly not hating on you dude, but you should buy an IPhone. If you want something that works out of the box and you don't have to mess with that's the way to go. EVERY Android handset out there requires tweaking to some degree or another. And every other manufacturer has their own issues.
Samsung has a bit of a track record of not updating and now the GPS issues. But Motorola gets you a locked boot loader. LG currently doesn't have a real competitor in the US yet. HTC just took the EVO and rebadged it for Verizon and AT&T, not to mention the Desire HD for the rest of the world.
I'm not overly thrilled with the Captivate. It's a great phone, but the lack of support from Samsung (cmon, at&t may have it's faults but they have little to do with the lack of an update or support, they just sell phones, my opinion of course.) The biggest issue for me is GPS. I do have a standalone unit for trips and such but I really like having a phone that can get me from A to B easily. I don't carry my GPS everywhere, I do carry my phone.
Would I buy another Samsung Device?? Maybe. I'd certainly wait a few weeks after it was released to see what the main issues are. As far as software, I don't care. I flash ROM's more than I change my...... Well you get my point.
if att gets the galaxy 2? it will hit in the fall of course,they will milk the atrix ,infuse and the htc dealio for all they are worth. sad reaalllymost likely increase data charges for no reason than renaming their 3g network....sounds like the goverment at work here, we need bigger goverment to counteract this maddddnesss
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im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Agreed. Before I got my Captivate, I was expecting the same Cydia/Installer combo to show up a couple minutes after I got it.
Honestly, Market serves as an undermined Cydia, but iPhone does have the better dev base by a landslide and that's why it's more popular, at least for devs and the like.
If Captivate had the dev base iPhone does, I wouldn't need anything else. Then again, I don't think anyone else would, either.
I am really really sick of this Droid 2 that VZW replaced my Droid with. I'm sick of Moto services invading my phone and slowing it down. There's no true ASOP build. This phone sucks balls.
I was set on buying an Incredible 2 OoC b/c it was cheap at $440 and saving my upgrade till later, but where I'm moving to next week already has LTE towers.
Do I really want to wait 2 months using this laggy trash? And possibly end up getting a TB anyway because the other phones coming out suck.
Or do I want to get a TB and save my upgrade till later in the Q4 2011/Q1 2012 when NFC Ice Cream Sandwich phones come out.
Don't want a Charge, poor build material choices.
Don't want a Revolution. Bing...
Does it really matter? Not really... You just root and you can put whatever you want and however you want.
Motorola tends to lock their bootloaders and make it hard to do what you want.
Samsung stated that they'll never lock it that way(Not in those words, but given the sense that they will leave it open)
HTC has been locking down their devices, but not as tough as Motorola does.
So basically pick a device with the hardware you want, and make sure it's root and you can install custom roms/kernels.
The T-Bolt is a great phone, and it has excellent community support. I have absolutely no complaints about my phone (aside from the battery life).
That being said, the Galaxy S II that's coming out looks sexy as hell. It might be worth the wait to hold out for that. Honestly, it's totally up to you.
There was talk about tiered 4G plans, which is what made me opt for the early upgrade to the T-Bolt (hoping to be grandfathered in to unlimited 4G). I haven't heard much on that front, but it's still a possibility.
wait a few months
from everything i've ever read about samsung phones, their software support is absolutely horrible. slow updates, faulty gps etc. i've heard a ton of people complain about the issue, and it seems to be the case with all their phones... never had one, but that's the impression i get.
the thunderbolt is a decent phone, but all it really has over the droid x is 4g. the t-bolt screen might be a little better, but not much. in day to day use it's not faster, the battery isn't even close and the build quality of the DX is equal or better. if i were you i would pick up a DX on craigslist for $175 and save your upgrade for a few months. The dx has even more dev support than the T-bolt and it's the best phone I ever had.
bottom line is, if you really want 4g speeds right now, really really bad, then get the thunderbolt. if you can do without that for awhile i think you will be really happy with a DX, especially after using the Droid 2, and you'll spend less than half the money.
the above is just my .02.
Show me a HTC or Motorola phone with latest software on it
Not you fat Jesus
I bought mine off contract and am very happy I did it. Yes there are a few issues, but nothing a little root cant fix.
Though waiting a few months for a better phone won't hurt, the TB is a great choice.
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I just have to say that this cracks me up every time I see you post it.
Once you get a taste of 4G, you will never want a phone that is 3G only. So if you are moving to 4G area and don't want to pay full retail, I suggest you get a used Tbolt from craigslist and use it until something comes along that you like better, then sell the Tbolt
i love my TB, i have it rooted with das bamf NTE 1.6.3 and its about the coolest thing since MP3s.. as with others, the battery life on this thing is fkin AWFUL!! i have the extended battery and i still dont feel like its enough, however i use my phone probably more than i should or more than others. either way the LTE network is retarded fast and i'd never want 3g.
First off I just want to say I owned a droid 2 and it wasn't that bad. I jumped to the thunderbolt just to lock in the 4g rate. The bigger screen is a nice plus but other than that is the same thing. I wasn't overly impressed as other owners of the droid x and 2 have stated is not that big of a jump.
Before I end let me just say other than software wise android phones are exactly where I want them. I don't need a dual core chip in my phone and 4g is. good enough for anything I would ever want to do with my phone. I'm sure most of you will disagree but that's just how I feel. Flame away!
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I picked up a TB on craigslist for $350. The custom roms still seem a bit premature, however they should evolve over time. Nonetheless it's an amazing phone. If you have a desk job or spend a lot of time in your car, the battery life is not much of an issue. Just stay plugged in.
Got my TB off Craigslist for a fascinate trade plus 150$. I love it so far.. 4g is amazing..once you.have it you won't want to go back.
Roms are not bad. I'm waiting for a complete cm7 or sense 3.0 rom but other than that das bamf runs fantastic.
If you have the cash and want a great phone with a growing dev community, go for it.
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Thank you for all the input.
It's funny the other 2 forums told me I'm a moron and this one says Buy a TB!!!
I use over 2GB of data a month so the 4G unlimited (Hopefully grandfathered for life) makes it very tempting since my upgrade isn't till mid July which is around the time the rumors of tiered data plans landing. I'm also not to optimistic about an actual new phone coming out then. Maybe the SGSII but I really hate the fact that it doesnt have a search button. It's a damn Google phone and I use the search button all the time, for GOOGLE, not Bing!
I didn't even think about craigslist. That might be a good option.
As for a cheap DX. No way. It basically is a D2 minus the keyboard. I like the keyboard, I can sacrifice it for a 4G newish phone but not for an X. and I hate the Blur invasion, and locked bootloader. My D2 has been running custom roms. They're just too laggy and buggy still. Fab, Kejar, and Rummy are awesome, but they all had DXs and the D2 ports were just not good. Most of it I blame on Blur still having to be in there. I've been running GB stock blur and custom and for the first time since my D1 ADW launcher gets kicked out of memory and has to reload when I hit home.... I hate it.
EBay is your friend. Lots of Tbolts available every day, including NIB models. Prices similar to Craigslist, depending where you are.
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It's funny the other 2 forums told me I'm a moron and this one says Buy a TB!!!
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well... if you go to an iphone forum I'm sure they'd say get an iphone! we are only somewhat biased here
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EBay is your friend. Lots of Tbolts available every day, including NIB models. Prices similar to Craigslist, depending where you are.
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Honestly I never buy anything without having it in my hands first. Learned my lesson when eBay burned me not once but twice.
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Nexus to name just 1
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well... if you go to an iphone forum I'm sure they'd say get an iphone! we are only somewhat biased here
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Haha it wasn't an iphone forum. they were android and droid forums.
Get the tbolt. You will not regret it.
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Just Curious, anyone planning on upgrading to the Galaxy S II when it becomes available?
(Also, is a rooted / custom ROM phone also unlocked?)
Nick
IIRC, the Samsung Galaxy S II has an unlocked bootloader, so yes, developers will probably start writing custom ROMs for it.
For me, I'm going to keep this phone until my 2-year contract is up. Even if I had a chance to upgrade to Galaxy S II for free, I wouldn't, because I personally don't like Samsung phones.
I don't understand these questions...This phone just came out what in Feb? Most peeps are in a 2 year contract. I know I am....
I know there are some who buy out of contract but really why ask here and not in the forum for the phone you are in question of?
Most people are going to answer you with a no.
i plan to get the HTC Holiday off-contract but only if it has an unlocked bootloader
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I don't understand these questions...This phone just came out what in Feb? Most peeps are in a 2 year contract. I know I am....
I know there are some who buy out of contract but really why ask here and not in the forum for the phone you are in question of?
Most people are going to answer you with a no.
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Yeah, I'm curious if people will want to switch enough to sell their current phones and buy unlocked. I'm not sure if these things sell well on ebay, but that's what I've done in the past when new iPhones came out.
My Inspire Its New, its in the market over 11 Feb, we don't need to change the phone yet.
Enjoy your Machine
HELL to the NO!
Samsung products are banned from my house.
I'm eligible for a new phone in January, I'll probably stick with HTC.
For "old tech" the Inspire is a kick ass device. Stable as all get out with lots of dev activity. Lots to love about it.
Wow... someone's so pretty rich here. Good for u.
I plan to keep this phone atleast till March next year, when I'll be due for upgrade.
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For "old tech" the Inspire is a kick ass device. Stable as all get out with lots of dev activity. Lots to love about it.
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I under clocked to ~700 and it is still so snappy!!!
Yeah, I have to say, I've installed CM7 (stable), and I am SUPER impressed with how fast this thing is now.
I was just curious, I see that you all love this phone very much. Makes me happy with my choice. (My wife shattered her phone, and I picked this one up same day, not my usual month long research)
So, as a former iPhone 4 users, if you could give me one android tip or suggestion, what would it be?
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Yeah, I have to say, I've installed CM7 (stable), and I am SUPER impressed with how fast this thing is now.
I was just curious, I see that you all love this phone very much. Makes me happy with my choice. (My wife shattered her phone, and I picked this one up same day, not my usual month long research)
So, as a former iPhone 4 users, if you could give me one android tip or suggestion, what would it be?
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stay away from motorola and samsung... other then that you should be golden.
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So, as a former iPhone 4 users, if you could give me one android tip or suggestion, what would it be?
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Stay away from task killers that kill tasks at regular intervals. U could use them to kill a stray app though.
I would recommend reading the thread "android memory management" (permanent link in my signature) to learn how android memory management works.
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Stay away from task killers that kill tasks at regular intervals. U could use them to kill a stray app though.
I would recommend reading the thread "android memory management" (permanent link in my signature) to learn how android memory management works.
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Yep, I learned that pretty quick. Thanks!
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Nandroids are your best friend...
im planning on buying another Inspire. How bout those apples.
I'm keeping this phone till my upgrade in December. Then, hello Holiday!
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I've used the i**** and used the sgs vibrant and captivate. And then I saw the infuse and lmao.... Huge and cheap. Samsung may make a OK screen but I need a solid body to protect it. Hell no htc all the way
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I will preface this by saying while I make really good money( and work damned hard for it) I am not rich.
I have 2 inspires, one off contract and one on, and you can bet your sweet ass I will be getting the gs2. That is provided it lives up the hype and has proper dev support, which I imagine it will. I understand that in the inspire forum your gonna have a hard time finding anyone saying its not the best phone ever for all time, but I am not the typical owner. I dont have a "pride of ownership" complex. While I lOVE this phone, its far from perfect. The battery is a joke, the bluetooth radio is really weak, the cellular radio has a hard time, and the bottom/side covers fit poorly. Not my opinion, just what it is. The only thing that may be a bit subjective is the cellular radio signal. Buttttt I have tested 5 brand new inspires against a captivate,aria,iphone, and a dumbphone and it always has the weakest signal (in db's not F'in bars). I have flashed every radio/ril known to man, and while it will fluctuate a bit from one to another, as an average its mostly the same. I am talking strictly in signal strength (both edge/hspa) no stupid bars or speedtest.net results. I also tested the bluetooth on 3 inspires myself and had a friend test 2 and all did the same thing. It will start to break up bad if you cover the antenna(side cover) with your hand or move away from the source. This again is something I dont experience with my other plethora of phones. I tested it with 2 headsets and 2 different aftermarket headunits(car stereo). As for the battery, well come on do I really have to explain myself there. While I have gotten to get my phone to last most of the day, its still sub par.
Now dont get me wrong I absolutely love this phone, if not why would I buy 2, one off contract. Its fast, beautiful, made of quality materials, has an awesome screen, and best of all has AMAZING dev support. I only explain my issue cause I know Im gonna get flamed. I am just one of those guys that doesn't think that its the best because I own it. When we own stuff we tend to overlook issues and focus on the positives, which is fine provided it doesn't cloud your judgement. I love and have owned mustangs and camaros. I have also owned and loved yamaha's,honda's,kawasaki's,suzuki bikes. I love toys/gadgets of every maker and flavor. Hell I own an svt lightning but still dig the srt-10 and the cheby ss. And yes I have a drawer full of smartphones from htc,palm,samsung, and yes even the rotten apple.
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I will preface this by saying while I make really good money( and work damned hard for it) I am not rich.
I have 2 inspires, one off contract and one on, and you can bet your sweet ass I will be getting the gs2. That is provided it lives up the hype and has proper dev support, which I imagine it will. I understand that in the inspire forum your gonna have a hard time finding anyone saying its not the best phone ever for all time, but I am not the typical owner. I dont have a "pride of ownership" complex. While I lOVE this phone, its far from perfect. The battery is a joke, the bluetooth radio is really weak, the cellular radio has a hard time, and the bottom/side covers fit poorly. Not my opinion, just what it is. The only thing that may be a bit subjective is the cellular radio signal. Buttttt I have tested 5 brand new inspires against a captivate,aria,iphone, and a dumbphone and it always has the weakest signal (in db's not F'in bars). I have flashed every radio/ril known to man, and while it will fluctuate a bit from one to another, as an average its mostly the same. I am talking strictly in signal strength (both edge/hspa) no stupid bars or speedtest.net results. I also tested the bluetooth on 3 inspires myself and had a friend test 2 and all did the same thing. It will start to break up bad if you cover the antenna(side cover) with your hand or move away from the source. This again is something I dont experience with my other plethora of phones. I tested it with 2 headsets and 2 different aftermarket headunits(car stereo). As for the battery, well come on do I really have to explain myself there. While I have gotten to get my phone to last most of the day, its still sub par.
Now dont get me wrong I absolutely love this phone, if not why would I buy 2, one off contract. Its fast, beautiful, made of quality materials, has an awesome screen, and best of all has AMAZING dev support. I only explain my issue cause I know Im gonna get flamed. I am just one of those guys that doesn't think that its the best because I own it. When we own stuff we tend to overlook issues and focus on the positives, which is fine provided it doesn't cloud your judgement. I love and have owned mustangs and camaros. I have also owned and loved yamaha's,honda's,kawasaki's,suzuki bikes. I love toys/gadgets of every maker and flavor. Hell I own an svt lightning but still dig the srt-10 and the cheby ss. And yes I have a drawer full of smartphones from htc,palm,samsung, and yes even the rotten apple.
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I see yer issue. Harley's are the only "Motor Cycles" and samsung sux.
Def picking up SG2 when it comes out.
Is it just me or is there a complete lack of development for roms and themes with not only ics beta builds, but any other roms whether its tw or aosp . Has source for gingerbread or ics been released? Im recieving a free droid charge from work and i was lookin forward to getting a verizon phone comin frm At&T Desire HD but i see theres less development here. Does verizon usually lock all of their bootloaders to where source wont be released? Maybe i shoulda picked the Thunderbolt? Im new to verizon srry guys
There was a lot more development with FE version. The GB source just got released 2 weeks ago. So it's early. The main reason AOSP isn't available is because the RIL(Samsung) hasn't been released. And it probably won't because it isn't required.
But with the release of the Nexus and its very similar radio(google) and it's RIL there is hope that ICS will come out. Imnuts has stated that he will look into development. I don't want to overstate his position so I'll let him say what he wants if he decides to here.
Development isn't as robust on some phones. But I believe we will have a Renaissance period soon with GB source released and the Nexus software.
And one should remember any development is done on their time and sacrifice. We should maintain a patient attitude. Complaining doesn't help our cause. 1 complaint is no big deal but add that to a few other vocal folks and people get mad and stop releasing their software.
i kno that they have lives outside of this but i was just sharing what i noticed. Im prob gonna join development for porting after i finish my army IT training.
thanks bro for answering my question
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i kno that they have lives outside of this but i was just sharing what i noticed. Im prob gonna join development for porting after i finish my army IT training.
thanks bro for answering my question
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I would call my post a cautious attempt to answer your question from the info I learned reading from the more educated folks here about this stuff mixed in with MHO. So other responses may come that help shed light on your question.
That would be great if you could join an help out the community. I know I nothing more than a leecher. With the explosion of android based phones I wished I had learned all about linux.
But anyway, development isn't totally dead. Just slow right now. I think(hope) it will pick back up with the new releases out.
This thread is beating a dead horse. If you would bother searching you would find many threads and posts asking the same thing. Even if development had stopped, there are plenty of options to make your phone fast and stable.
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I just hope this is a troll...
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No longer the hot phone, that's all
I have been unable to find sales statistics by model, but even though the Charge is one of Verizon's more favored 4G phones, it is not the most interesting or performant phone out there now, if it ever was. Anyone in the market for a new high-end phone is likely waiting for the Galaxy Nexus, they are not likely to commit to a Charge at this point.
The folks who are most enthusiastic and productive in creating new ROMs and kernels have probably moved on to other phones. Not that there aren't still some great folks still working on the Charge, there are, but much of the herd has migrated elsewhere.
I have no inside knowledge, I don't know any of these people, I just know how developers tend to behave.
Sorry about all this, as others have pointed out, you still have options to make it a quite adequate phone.
Myself, I have come to the conclusion that Verizon's 4G is overrated - when it's good, it's great, but I am on 3G much of the time even though I live and work in metropolitan Boston.
My $.02
Yeah, faster internet speeds are overrated -_-
The point is I'm not paying for it. I won't even be in a contract. My job is giving me this phone for free and very heavily discount my plan. When I leave for the army in May and quit my job I have now, I have to give it back and switch my plan to a consumer contract plan if I wanna stay with vzw. I only had a choice of the charge, thunderbolt,and stratosphere. I ain't pick the thunderbolt bcuz my att inspire is the same thing and development is popping and on fire over there. Also picked charge over thunderbolt is bcuz of a 1600mAh battery vs 1400mAh in the thunderbolt
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Plus the the GPU processor in the charge is better than in the thunderbolt and my inspire. I wont buy the vzw nexus or the galaxy s3 until I finish army basic training cuz I can't have a phone anyway during that time anyway. I would have to leave it home until I get out
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I find it strange that people don't recognize how great the Charge hardware is. People think its a bad phone without spending any time optimizing it.
I for one think the Charge is the best single-core phone you can get. I personally feel that dual-core phones are largely a marketing ploy.
Multi-core is undoubtedly the future of phones, however, for most tasks its unnecessary.
To me it sounds like most of the whiners are just gamers who want more FPS for their gaming sessions. If you take the time to learn how to optimize the phone, its tough to beat the Charge.
Some things don't matter to some people such as the audio hub.
Wake me up when you find a better phone that has the Wolfson DAC, SAMOLED+, and 4G on Verizon.
xdadevnube said:
I personally feel that dual-core phones are largely a marketing ploy. Multi-core is undoubtedly the future of phones, however, for most tasks its unnecessary.
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This is simply not true, and dual-core is not a marketing ploy. Spend some time using a dual-core phone as a daily driver -- there's a substantial, noticeable difference in OS performance, for everything from just opening apps to multitasking, and anyone who says otherwise is either lying or intentionally deluding themselves.
I just don't understand why people find it so hard to accept that in 7-8 months, even the best phone will no longer be the best. That's just how technology works, whether it's a phone or computer.
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
If you like it, buy it. It provides the manufacturers the funding to make new great products.
It's hard to hear anything but whining on threads like these.
If you are too lazy to learn to modify and optimize your phone, so then either provide reasoning to back up your argument or go back to playing your video games.
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I would say this is the best single core LTE phone on Verizon. It has the best screen, the best processor/GPU, biggest battery, hot-swappable SD/SIM, hardware android buttons.. I've had and used a Thunderbolt, a Revolution and now the Charge and this phone is significantly better than those.
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The point is I'm not paying for it. I won't even be in a contract. My job is giving me this phone for free and very heavily discount my plan. When I leave for the army in May and quit my job I have now, I have to give it back and switch my plan to a consumer contract plan if I wanna stay with vzw. I only had a choice of the charge, thunderbolt,and stratosphere. I ain't pick the thunderbolt bcuz my att inspire is the same thing and development is popping and on fire over there. Also picked charge over thunderbolt is bcuz of a 1600mAh battery vs 1400mAh in the thunderbolt
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Even with the development in place, the Charge is still a better choice over the TBolt or Stratosphere.
P.S. Infinity has been running great for me as a GB ROM, there are a few themes out for it now. Plus, I'm real confident that we're going to get ICS to run on the Charge. I can't say it will happen within a week or even a month, but I'm pretty sure it's going to happen. And at that point, you can bet we'll see AOSP ICS, CM9, and a slew of other ICS ROMs to hold us over until we all ***** and moan about getting Jelly Bean to work!
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Even with the development in place, the Charge is still a better choice over the TBolt or Stratosphere.
P.S. Infinity has been running great for me as a GB ROM, there are a few themes out for it now. Plus, I'm real confident that we're going to get ICS to run on the Charge. I can't say it will happen within a week or even a month, but I'm pretty sure it's going to happen. And at that point, you can bet we'll see AOSP ICS, CM9, and a slew of other ICS ROMs to hold us over until we all ***** and moan about getting Jelly Bean to work!
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True that lol
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Newbie needs help
xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
Hi, I just bought a Charge and am new with android phone, could you please help and let me know where I should start? What is the best rom to get and how do I get started, etc.
Thanks in advance!
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mc999 said:
xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
Hi, I just bought a Charge and am new with android phone, could you please help and let me know where I should start? What is the best rom to get and how do I get started, etc.
Thanks in advance!
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My personal opinion....
Start here...
Download Odin 3
Odin 3 - program to install roms & other phone stuff
Download the usb driver for windows
Windows USB Driver
Good simple rom to get going.
[ODIN][ALL IN ONE][EP4D] Gingerbread 2.3.6 W/Root/CWR/IMO Kernel 4.0
Good daily driver rom
[ROM][ODIN][CWR][EP4P] Humble 5.0 RC2 Gingerbread 2.3.6 11-9-2011
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advice please
xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well. This dual core argument is all over the web.
If you like it, buy it. It provides the manufacturers the funding to make new great products.
It's hard to hear anything but whining on threads like these.
If you are too lazy to learn to modify and optimize your phone, so then either provide reasoning to back up your argument or go back to playing your video games.
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Hi xdadevnube, I'm interested to know what firmware/mod are you using for your Charge, and how to best twig it. I just got a Charge myself, new with android phone rooting. Thanks.
xdadevnube said:
I have spent time with all the new Verizon phones. My Charge is snappier than the stock Nexus by a fair margin. It is heavily nodded though. My Charge is snappier the the stock Razr as well.
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Apples to oranges, dude. Fair comparisons would be a stock Droid Charge to a stock Nexus/RAZR or a heavily modified Charge to a heavily modified Nexus/RAZR.
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I hardly ever start posts like this, but I just felt I needed to say that this phone is freaking awesome. In the past year and a half, I have had the hd2, mytouch4g, g2x (briefly), and was seriously considering buying the gs2. As a matter of fact, when I received this phone as a warranty for the mt4g, I said "well, it will hold me over until the gs2 comes out/I have money for it." I don't even want that thing anymore. I truly feel this phone is one of the best on the markets, if not the best. The best camera, tv out, excellent processor and memory, and a fine hardware keyboard. Never thought I would use the last one as much as I do now.
At the beginning, this phone was lacking in devs, but romanb, blue, and undead breathed new life into it. Now we are getting more and more devs who can only bring more to the table. My hat's off to all the devs. I think from here, this phone can only go up. Truly one of the most overlooked phones imo.
I agree, this is one of the best! I have a feeling that it is just going to get better, I am seeing more and more new people over here, so maybe we will finally get the attention this phone deserves. I always have the best phone out of most groups of people. I even amazed an Iphone user the other day. (everyone at my school has Iphones, I don't know why).
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I agree, this is one of the best! I have a feeling that it is just going to get better, I am seeing more and more new people over here, so maybe we will finally get the attention this phone deserves. I always have the best phone out of most groups of people. I even amazed an Iphone user the other day. (everyone at my school has Iphones, I don't know why).
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iPhone users are special people. Need I say more?
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I'm still holding out hope that kornyone delivers on a functional RC version of any CM.
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I'm still holding out hope that kornyone delivers on a functional RC version of any CM.
Delivered via candygram for Mr. Mongo.
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Yeah even though im a Sense user id love to give cm9 a try, the only one ive tried was a quick dirty but very smooth build
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Iphone users are seriously amazed at what my phone can do. Other android users are astonished by the battery life. Everyone is impressed with the camera and tv out.
Just came over from the G2. Glad to be here Especially with all the new support in the works.
We really need to push more G2 owners to move to this device.
I was playing GTA 3 on my G2, and you could tell the hardware had reached its limit. Not bad, but laggy at times. I know it's asking a lot from my phone, but it made me realize that it's not as invincible as I thought. OCed to 2GHz and you could cook an egg on the back of it.
This phone has just that much beef under the hood. Exactly what I need
I like the phone Just wish it was thinner and had a bigger screen. But Pyro Ice is great.. Really hoping for CM9.
I agree 100%. This phone is worth every penny.
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I broke my mt4g last time and was offered the slide as a replacement... I was thinking about how bulky it could be. Though, I picked another mt4g, then I researched the comparison of the two I was like F€#$!! I wished I had picked the slide. I called them back before they sent out the phone, but it was too late..
Couldn't think of a way to brick my current one.. LMAO!!
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strykher said:
I broke my mt4g last time and was offered the slide as a replacement... I was thinking about how bulky it could be. Though, I picked another mt4g, then I researched the comparison of the two I was like F€#$!! I wished I had picked the slide. I called them back before they sent out the phone, but it was too late..
Couldn't think of a way to brick my current one.. LMAO!!
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hahahaha too bad, so sad buddy.
You had a great opportunity to score one of these babies
It's actually not that different in terms of size compared to the MyTouch 4G.
A little thicker and heavier because of the keyboard, but very impressive
Best part about this phone is that it will outlast the devices from its time, ie Sensation both XE and 4G, Amze 4G. Most of these devices have a much higher resolution than the DS, 9xx by 5xx vs 840 by 480, thus the adreno 220 on the DS will be able to handle more load before it hits its ceiling.
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Best part about this phone is that it will outlast the devices from its time, ie Sensation both XE and 4G, Amze 4G. Most of these devices have a much higher resolution than the DS, 9xx by 5xx vs 840 by 480, thus the adreno 220 on the DS will be able to handle more load before it hits its ceiling.
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I'd really like to see how phones can get better than this...
If I'm only moderately compelled to upgrade to this device from the G2, it will be much harder to justify my next phone purchase.
How a dual core phone will be pushed to its limit? I have no idea.
gtmaster303 said:
I'd really like to see how phones can get better than this...
If I'm only moderately compelled to upgrade to this device from the G2, it will be much harder to justify my next phone purchase.
How a dual core phone will be pushed to its limit? I have no idea.
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Games are probably going to be the first to do so.
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