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Twice as good(better) than g2x

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/02/t-mo...lg-g2x/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Looks promising
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really not a fan of the g#x name scheme

Sounds good. I sure hope they don't screw up with it as they did with the G2x.
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I have no faith in that future lol.
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I have no faith in that future lol.
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so if lg had not hand in making this device with the above specs it would soundssomewhat promising.

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so if lg had not hand in making this device with the above specs it would soundssomewhat promising.
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The 720p & 21mbps thing also lg should be stepping their game up lol... I'll be going for specific processor chips from now on, I'm tired of the run around lol. Don't want to have to rely on awesome devs to support us.
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Not to be overly cynical, but I think this might be the reason LG hasn't outright said they will upgrade our phone to ICS. I fail to see how this new one would be such a cut above ours other than it will be sporting ICS. And yes, I know that LG has stated they will upgrade the O2X and they are basically the same phone so let's stay off of that merry-go-round.
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It will be hilarious if the next phone to that is G8x. G8 in Chinese sounds the same as the male part. Some believe it the reason why Canon skipped PowerShot G8 and directly to G9.

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http://www.tmonews.com/2012/02/t-mo...lg-g2x/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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It'll be called the Optimus 3x, and the T-mobile version will be the G3x, because of the Tegra 3.
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Not to be overly cynical, but I think this might be the reason LG hasn't outright said they will upgrade our phone to ICS. I fail to see how this new one would be such a cut above ours other than it will be sporting ICS. And yes, I know that LG has stated they will upgrade the O2X and they are basically the same phone so let's stay off of that merry-go-round.
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Quad core processing, will have at least a gig of RAM, so twice as much RAM, 100% faster processing times. Not to mention a 4.7 inch screen, real 720p HD screen and 21 mbps radio instead of 14.4.

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It'll be called the Optimus 3x, and the T-mobile version will be the G3x, because of the Tegra 3.
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That makes way more sense than G4x.
However, I am an LG owner scorned. It's either iPhone or Nexus device for me.
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darbear5610 said:
That makes way more sense than G4x.
However, I am an LG owner scorned. It's either iPhone or Nexus device for me.
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Amen
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This is a very tempting phone. But it's just hard to put all your cards in LG and nVidia again.

I will buy g4x, the screen on g2x look way better than Samsung and HTC phones, hopefully g4x will have nice and easy to clean screen.

If only it didn't say lg on it. Smh
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With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )

That's not wise at all…. LG will never ever guarantee that, considering android is developed by a different company. Who knows if future iterations of android will require significantly more power. Google's own Nexus One isn't even being updated to ICS, and that was only 2 years ago. Also LG will never be able to sell any low or mid range phones, considering they don't have top of the line hardware to begin with.
Then if LG fail to deliver their promise based on the first point, they have to essentially buy back 2-3 year old hardware they had already sold at their original price.
That idea is ludicrous and there is a reason it hasn't been implemented.
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With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )
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rauelius said:
With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )
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You, sir, are a genius.
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Yeah, basically same thing that was said about Hyundai, thanks for proving my point! "How can you support a car for 10 Years?!?!" And honestly, ICS really should've been release for the Nexus One. Low end phones going forward will be at about the level of the G2x and the original Transformer (Look up ZTE Tegra2 phone, it's considered a mid-level 2012 phone). Besides, this could be offered only to premium handsets.
Also, you assume that 100% of the people will actually take advantage of the warranty. Reality is about 12.5% actually use the warranty on products. I actually learned 30% in marketing, and in my 10 years in corporate business, it's actually more like 12.5%. Better marketing, vs at most 30% of people taking advantage of it (unrealistic)
The idea isn't ludicrous, it just saddens me that their are such self-limited minds out there.
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That's not wise at all…. LG will never ever guarantee that, considering android is developed by a different company. Who knows if future iterations of android will require significantly more power. Google's own Nexus One isn't even being updated to ICS, and that was only 2 years ago. Also LG will never be able to sell any low or mid range phones, considering they don't have top of the line hardware to begin with.
Then if LG fail to deliver their promise based on the first point, they have to essentially buy back 2-3 year old hardware they had already sold at their original price.
That idea is ludicrous and there is a reason it hasn't been implemented.
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Hands on video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CjvtFW5cgI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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G2x has been EOL on wind

I have a friend who works at wind trelling me they are discontuing the g2x. we all know why. Here's to more proof no official ics is coming.
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Well wind didn't even give gingerbread, was anyone really expecting ics?
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Wind EOL'd this device months ago in Ottawa. Still, when I called the loyalty department and was like, and why'd you EOL the device before it's even been out for a year? They had no comment, wish they'd let us exchange these POS's

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Wind EOL'd this device months ago in Ottawa. Still, when I called the loyalty department and was like, and why'd you EOL the device before it's even been out for a year? They had no comment, wish they'd let us exchange these POS's
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I'm thinking of selling this and getting a S2
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joeyxl said:
I'm thinking of selling this and getting a S2
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I'm also disappointed at wind. I got my g2x 3 months ago and I have a 3 year term contract with them. I'd rather have an S2 or Nexus S.
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breadland said:
I'm also disappointed at wind. I got my g2x 3 months ago and I have a 3 year term contract with them. I'd rather have an S2 or Nexus S.
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Ouch, that's why I could never do a three year contract.
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breadland said:
I'm also disappointed at wind. I got my g2x 3 months ago and I have a 3 year term contract with them. I'd rather have an S2 or Nexus S.
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Don't you mean you've got a WindTab which subsidizes the phone and at the end of the 3rd year WIND writes off the remaining balance owed?

breadland said:
I'm also disappointed at wind. I got my g2x 3 months ago and I have a 3 year term contract with them. I'd rather have an S2 or Nexus S.
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I know how you feel I'm in at 7 months with wind tab though I can upgrade now but I treading the waters carefully I thing I may buy a gnex on kijiji and put my sim in it I know I'm losing money but from its only nexus
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I have WindTab+ and will wait until the end of this year to see what transpires with updates for the G2X/WIND Optimus 2X/P999. If no update to ICS, at least, appears by then, I will deem this phone to be abandoned by LG and WIND and probably file a Small Claims Court claim against WIND (and LG if that's possible) for misleadingly selling the phone as "upgradeable". In addition to that claim, another one of the arguments in my claim will be that the utility and resale value of the phone is seriously diminished because of the non-existent of any "upgrade" from WIND and LG. I'll ask for a refund of what I've paid for the phone, it's residual value owed to WIND and court and other costs. If I do replace this phone, the only Android phone I will buy is a Google Nexus because it will get updated regularly. Alternatively, I will buy an iPhone 5 because Apple regularly updates their phones for much longer than Android phones get updated and they retain high resale value.

Core Memory said:
I have WindTab+ and will wait until the end of this year to see what transpires with updates for the G2X/WIND Optimus 2X/P999. If no update to ICS, at least, appears by then, I will deem this phone to be abandoned by LG and WIND and probably file a Small Claims Court claim against WIND (and LG if that's possible) for misleadingly selling the phone as "upgradeable". In addition to that claim, another one of the arguments in my claim will be that the utility and resale value of the phone is seriously diminished because of the non-existent of any "upgrade" from WIND and LG. I'll ask for a refund of what I've paid for the phone, it's residual value owed to WIND and court and other costs. If I do replace this phone, the only Android phone I will buy is a Google Nexus because it will get updated regularly. Alternatively, I will buy an iPhone 5 because Apple regularly updates their phones for much longer than Android phones get updated and they retain high resale value.
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i want to wait it out and see if we get any updates or the new nexus but i don't know if I can do it and most of the sales ppl dont know about phones in general this dude actually told me that the phone couldn't run ics and i showed him mine running owains kang and told him i had it oc'ed and he said that it was the only way i could run ics if i had it up to the max and i was like dude its only oced by 10% and it runs very well underclocked which i proceeded to show him. to which i told him wind is full of bull the g2x is a gaming first and phone second the tegra 2 is a very good processor but it cant use its full potential becuz lg/nvidia wont release source the only limiting thing is the ram but it is a good pjone and wind screwed us over big time
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i want to wait it out and see if we get any updates or the new nexus but i don't know if I can do it and most of the sales ppl dont know about phones in general this dude actually told me that the phone couldn't run ics and i showed him mine running owains kang and told him i had it oc'ed and he said that it was the only way i could run ics if i had it up to the max and i was like dude its only oced by 10% and it runs very well underclocked which i proceeded to show him. to which i told him wind is full of bull the g2x is a gaming first and phone second the tegra 2 is a very good processor but it cant use its full potential becuz lg/nvidia wont release source the only limiting thing is the ram but it is a good pjone and wind screwed us over big time
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WIND employees are no different than ROBELUS ones, they vary in knowledge from nothing through to nerds. Most are at the know nothing end of the spectrum and some are geeks, like the one you encountered, who think they know but don't and mislead people as you found out. Ultimately, like with anything, research, research, research and more research before buying anything expensive. The WIND Optimus 2X is the first "smart phone" I've owned and I believed the WIND and LG BS about it being "upgradeable" and would be upgraded by WIND to Gingerbread which hasn't occurred. I like the phone but I don't like WIND, LG, and NVIDIA and, somewhat, Google for not requiring any phone manufacturer which uses Android to keep the phone's version of Android up-to-date in a timely manner at least as long as Google does for its Nexus phone. For the most part, it is the independent developer community such as those who post at xdadevelopers that keep phones such as the G2X and Optimus 2X updated but they are only able to succeed incrementally as they learn more about an Android release and, with ICS and Jelly Bean, are blocked from fully enabling those and other NVIDIA SOC Tegra2 phones. I am now at "Fool me once, shame on you." Hopefully I won't wind up as "Fool me twice, shame on me."

Core Memory said:
WIND employees are no different than ROBELUS ones, they vary in knowledge from nothing through to nerds. Most are at the know nothing end of the spectrum and some are geeks, like the one you encountered, who think they know but don't and mislead people as you found out. Ultimately, like with anything, research, research, research and more research before buying anything expensive. The WIND Optimus 2X is the first "smart phone" I've owned and I believed the WIND and LG BS about it being "upgradeable" and would be upgraded by WIND to Gingerbread which hasn't occurred. I like the phone but I don't like WIND, LG, and NVIDIA and, somewhat, Google for not requiring any phone manufacturer which uses Android to keep the phone's version of Android up-to-date in a timely manner at least as long as Google does for its Nexus phone. For the most part, it is the independent developer community such as those who post at xdadevelopers that keep phones such as the G2X and Optimus 2X updated but they are only able to succeed incrementally as they learn more about an Android release and, with ICS and Jelly Bean, are blocked from fully enabling those and other NVIDIA SOC Tegra2 phones. I am now at "Fool me once, shame on you." Hopefully I won't wind up as "Fool me twice, shame on me."
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That is so true, that's why I don't want to upgrade because ill tie myself into WindTab again so if we dont get ICS for the O2x ill try to wait for the new nexus of buy the gnex and just pop in my sim and revert the G2X to CM7 and give it to my mom
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[email protected] said:
That is so true, that's why I don't want to upgrade because ill tie myself into WindTab again so if we dont get ICS for the O2x ill try to wait for the new nexus of buy the gnex and just pop in my sim and revert the G2X to CM7 and give it to my mom
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Good plan.

[email protected] said:
That is so true, that's why I don't want to upgrade because ill tie myself into WindTab again so if we dont get ICS for the O2x ill try to wait for the new nexus of buy the gnex and just pop in my sim and revert the G2X to CM7 and give it to my mom
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You hate your mom that much?

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You hate your mom that much?
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Lmao thats great
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You hate your mom that much?
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lol too funny. not at all my mom isnt tech savy and believe me i tried to turn her from the dark side but she doesnt budge easily i practically had to beg her to take my HTC s620 aka TMO Dash when i got my G1 and she still has it. all she does is make calls and thats it period. now come to think of it i had cupcake running on it, though it was a proof of concept and alot of things were broken i fiddled with it and got data and the cell radio to work and it was pretty functional its pretty funny how android could run on a 200 mhz cpu in the good ol days. i think just for the fun of it I'll get back the Dash and resurrect my G1 and try to get the dash to boot android from start instead of booting it from inside of WM 6.5
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Thing is... LG WERE advertising the P999 as upgradable for a while ON THEIR Canadian website. I got my LG in January and remember seeing this. Then probably end of January or sometime in February, that "upgradable" disappeared. Wind got their specs page from LG. So, in my mind, Wind is NOT at fault here. The fault and problem lie entirely with LG Canada. If we could find an archived version of the LG website that showed the word "upgradable", then LG would be the one to go after. They ARE the manufacturers of the handset.
Thanks goodness for CM and for XDA developers for their hard (and probably sometimes thankless) work in getting ROM's to us that work really well.
Core Memory said:
I have WindTab+ and will wait until the end of this year to see what transpires with updates for the G2X/WIND Optimus 2X/P999. If no update to ICS, at least, appears by then, I will deem this phone to be abandoned by LG and WIND and probably file a Small Claims Court claim against WIND (and LG if that's possible) for misleadingly selling the phone as "upgradeable". In addition to that claim, another one of the arguments in my claim will be that the utility and resale value of the phone is seriously diminished because of the non-existent of any "upgrade" from WIND and LG. I'll ask for a refund of what I've paid for the phone, it's residual value owed to WIND and court and other costs. If I do replace this phone, the only Android phone I will buy is a Google Nexus because it will get updated regularly. Alternatively, I will buy an iPhone 5 because Apple regularly updates their phones for much longer than Android phones get updated and they retain high resale value.
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Thing is... LG WERE advertising the P999 as upgradable for a while ON THEIR Canadian website. I got my LG in January and remember seeing this. Then probably end of January or sometime in February, that "upgradable" disappeared. Wind got their specs page from LG. So, in my mind, Wind is NOT at fault here. The fault and problem lie entirely with LG Canada. If we could find an archived version of the LG website that showed the word "upgradable", then LG would be the one to go after. They ARE the manufacturers of the handset.
Thanks goodness for CM and for XDA developers for their hard (and probably sometimes thankless) work in getting ROM's to us that work really well.
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I may have the web pages saved but I have to search a few hard drives. I'll search them over the next couple of days then post if I've found them. The problem with suing is that we purchased the phone from WIND so our contract is with WIND, not LG, which means that we can sue WIND directly but not LG but we may be able to add LG as a party and subpoena information from LG and their presence at a trial. Here's a link to the Small Claims Court Forms for Ontario: http://www.ontariocourtforms.on.ca/english/scc

LG Nitro HD gets ICS, hopes for G2x?

Soooo I saw today that the AT&T's LG Nitro HD gets Ice Cream Sandwich starting July 31st. Does this give the G2x & O2x a hope for ICS? Even though LG Canada made a statement saying we wont.

richie390 said:
Soooo I saw today that the AT&T's LG Nitro HD gets Ice Cream Sandwich starting July 31st. Does this give the G2x & O2x a hope for ICS? Even though LG Canada made a statement saying we wont.
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Nope, I believe the Nitro HD uses a Qualcomm Scorpion chipset, completely different from the Tegra 2 chipset found in our devices.
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russell956956 said:
Nope, I believe the Nitro HD uses a Qualcomm Scorpion chipset, completely different from the Tegra 2 chipset found in our devices.
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Greeat! :/ I think its time to sell this phone

Don't sell yet, 02x might get some ics goodness soon, which means we might too

Blazing angel said:
Don't sell yet, 02x might get some ics goodness soon, which means we might too
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I've lost my optimism... I wish I had yours....

I've definitely lost about 95% of hope for ever getting a fully functional ICS on this phone. However, instead of jumping ship right now, I'm waiting for the New Year when I think Google will come out with their new Nexus device (following their current pattern). It's kind of win-win that way: I'll be waiting past Q3 of 2012, which is when LG said they'd be releasing ICS on a lot of their devices; if Google continues to improve their phones as they've had in the past, this new one will be amazing.

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Don't sell yet, 02x might get some ics goodness soon, which means we might too
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I've definitely lost about 95% of hope for ever getting a fully functional ICS on this phone. However, instead of jumping ship right now, I'm waiting for the New Year when I think Google will come out with their new Nexus device (following their current pattern). It's kind of win-win that way: I'll be waiting past Q3 of 2012, which is when LG said they'd be releasing ICS on a lot of their devices; if Google continues to improve their phones as they've had in the past, this new one will be amazing.
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I will still wait as I am looking for a new phone or a trade. But Idk LG is just getting on my nerves atm

yup, i have server driver issue w/ nvidia. nvidia blows and known to ditch customer in the middle of no where. Didn't expect that from LG.. I am thinking of grabbing GNEX or an iPhone. Atleast Apple's support isn't crap, so as google's. GNEX next, will wait till sept to see what goes on.

nycelitemaster said:
yup, i have server driver issue w/ nvidia. nvidia blows and known to ditch customer in the middle of no where. Didn't expect that from LG.. I am thinking of grabbing GNEX or an iPhone. Atleast Apple's support isn't crap, so as google's. GNEX next, will wait till sept to see what goes on.
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On the same boat as you my friend. iPhone or GNex. Just gonna wait it out till I get enough money for either phones. Hopefully by then I can get a new phone in my budget.

Actually, I was going to get a Gnex, but couldn't bring myself to buy another dual core while quad cores are out.
I'm mainly keeping optimism because I like the "shape" of this phone. It's not too massive like some other phones, and pretty snappy (on gingerbread that is.)
ICS would make everything better, and if we don't get it, I'll probably jump ship next year

Nope, LG Canada officially replied to someone and said that they won't be updating the LG Optimus 2X and LG Black to ICS.

Well lg emailed me this
Thank you for contacting LG Electronics. I am delighted t o hear from you as our valued customer, I do apologize f or any inconvenience you may have experienced and I wi ll be glad to help you out here.
LG is committed to offering the best smartphone experie nce on our Android phones. We are currently reviewing Ic e Cream Sandwich. Once the public release of Ice Cream Sandwich is made available for LG phones in the USA, sp ecific phone models and timing of updates will be posted on relevant local websites, such as the LGMobile social media accounts (Facebook/Twitter) and through notifica tions of your carrier.
I hope this information is helpful. If you have any other q uestions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact u s again either via email, or by calling our customer servic e division at 800-243-0000 at your convenience.
Joe B. E-mail Administrator Customer Interactive Center LGEAI
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Well lg emailed me this
Thank you for contacting LG Electronics. I am delighted t o hear from you as our valued customer, I do apologize f or any inconvenience you may have experienced and I wi ll be glad to help you out here.
LG is committed to offering the best smartphone experie nce on our Android phones. We are currently reviewing Ic e Cream Sandwich. Once the public release of Ice Cream Sandwich is made available for LG phones in the USA, sp ecific phone models and timing of updates will be posted on relevant local websites, such as the LGMobile social media accounts (Facebook/Twitter) and through notifica tions of your carrier.
I hope this information is helpful. If you have any other q uestions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact u s again either via email, or by calling our customer servic e division at 800-243-0000 at your convenience.
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So what they email everyone.

And the same copy and paste message since day one.
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5th day and counting.....

Sigh. Official ICS came out on 11th Oct. Its been 5 business days and counting and still no sign of kernel source anywhere. Why oh why, LG? Isn't the torture for the past year enough. Even Optimus black got their source the next business day.
Is there a slightest of slightest chance that the kernel source might never see the daylight?

I bet you they are doing this on purpose to screw over all the "non" korean 2x users. They are trying to force us to get a new phone!

They could care less about us. Lemmings will go out and buy more LG products... I don't care if the next Nexus is gonna have specs that rival high-performance gaming machines capable of playing Crysis at 120 FPS. If its made by LG, I'll pass...

New2my8125 said:
They could care less about us. Lemmings will go out and buy more LG products... I don't care if the next Nexus is gonna have specs that rival high-performance gaming machines capable of playing Crysis at 120 FPS. If its made by LG, I'll pass...
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You won't find your happiness with othee brands, it's the same with every single one of them. Two of my friends have the galaxy s2 and the sony ericsson xperia ray, both of which received their ICS update almost 6 months ago, and both of them just got a notification to update just the other day. You've been waiting for 5 business days? Pfff, patience, yound Skywalker...

Screw LG.
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Hope they release the update soon
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mariachi202 said:
You won't find your happiness with othee brands, it's the same with every single one of them. Two of my friends have the galaxy s2 and the sony ericsson xperia ray, both of which received their ICS update almost 6 months ago, and both of them just got a notification to update just the other day. You've been waiting for 5 business days? Pfff, patience, yound Skywalker...
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So, Galaxy s2 and Sony Ericsson Experia Ray got ICS update 6 months ago, and they just got an update notifaction the other day. That's more than the Canadian Optimus 2X (which is a clone of the G2X) which never got an Android OS update from Froyo and, according to LG, never will. I'd say that puts the last nail in LG's coffin in Canada as far as owners of that LG phone, including me, are concerned. U.S. owners of the G2X will probably never see another update for their phone from Gingerbread either. Owners of the Optimus 2X, other than those who own the Korean SU660 version which just got it's ICS update, are still waiting for ICS and, if it does become available, may only be available in some markets. LG is also stalling on providing the source code for the Korean SU660 version of ICS. Consequently, I think we've been much too patient.

Please explain me a thing: if there's already drivers for everything work in the ICS, why do we still having problems with 3D acceleration?
Okay, there is no official ROM, but CM9, CM10 is so well developed that, in my mind, is not such a big deal to get the drivers from SU660 and cook a new ROM, or am I wrong?

tnq13 said:
Please explain me a thing: if there's already drivers for everything work in the ICS, why do we still having problems with 3D acceleration?
Okay, there is no official ROM, but CM9, CM10 is so well developed that, in my mind, is not such a big deal to get the drivers from SU660 and cook a new ROM, or am I wrong?
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Without the source code showing the "hooks" into the driver(s), it would take an extreme amount of talent and work to reverse engineer the code which virtually no one is willing to expend on a phone which is, in tech time, ancient history.

You guys are acting like a bunch of babies. The kernel sources are coming and we all know it but complaining won't expedite the process. How about exercising a little patience? Who cares if they don't work on our schedule? Even if it takes a month, that's fine with me. At least we will get it...
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New2my8125 said:
They could care less about us. Lemmings will go out and buy more LG products... I don't care if the next Nexus is gonna have specs that rival high-performance gaming machines capable of playing Crysis at 120 FPS. If its made by LG, I'll pass...
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Yeah, but if it's a Nexus phone, then that means Google would be in charge of the updating process, correct? If so, then why hate on their next phone if they won't even have control over the updates?

matrix0886 said:
Yeah, but if it's a Nexus phone, then that means Google would be in charge of the updating process, correct? If so, then why hate on their next phone if they won't even have control over the updates?
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Why hate? I'm of the belief that I'm not going to "reward" a company for bad business practices. That's why!
So now I'm impatient and a "cry baby" for having a harsh opinion of a hardware company?? Wow... Just... wow....

Aricrj said:
You guys are acting like a bunch of babies. The kernel sources are coming and we all know it but complaining won't expedite the process. How about exercising a little patience? Who cares if they don't work on our schedule? Even if it takes a month, that's fine with me. At least we will get it...
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They care, lol.

I'm just saying, crying about it isn't going to speed up the process. We've waited this long what's another week?
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Aricrj said:
I'm just saying, crying about it isn't going to speed up the process. We've waited this long what's another week?
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A week too long had this since launch been waiting ever since. LG seems to be a day late and a dollar short constantly. 2.3.7 comes out we get 2.3.3 ics comes out we get 2.3.4 not *****ing just stating a fact
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monte666 said:
A week too long had this since launch been waiting ever since. LG seems to be a day late and a dollar short constantly. 2.3.7 comes out we get 2.3.3 ics comes out we get 2.3.4 not *****ing just stating a fact
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Sounds like *****ing
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everyone needs to get angry at each other. seriously guys, stop complaining. Mods are going to start locking threads if you keep this up.

Hopefully we wont have to see the people who create such threads over the LG Nexus forum. That way it can stay clean. :fingers-crossed:

joeyxl said:
everyone needs to get angry at each other. seriously guys, stop complaining. Mods are going to start locking threads if you keep this up.
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My anger is directed at the LG corporation. There's no anger towards other members having their opinions and feelings. The members that frequent these forums (majority of them at least) are here because they care about the product they currently have, or just flat out like to help. My anger at LG isn't going to make me stop helping whenever I can, with whatever I can. If you're in this forum, more than likely you're a G2X/O2X owner. We're here for each other to lend a helping hand.

Guys, Guys, Guys.
The intention for this thread wasn't to start a flame war or so on. This is the "so near yet so far" syndrome, atleast for me.
It was/is killing me inside that we are just one hurdle away from getting a stable ICS/JB ,which all of us who have this device are dreaming about for an year, and yet again the kernel source isn't out even thou for a phone from the same company it was out the next day. I hate it to be a deja vu. Waiting another year for the kernel source. lol.

On a scale of 1-10, how hard did we get screwed by LG?

If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?

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If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?
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I'd actually rate it as a screwing of 10. The awesome quality of roms, updates and patches that the developers here have provided doesn't change the fact that LGE ****ed us over. I made A LOT of noise about this to Wind Mobile here in Canada early on because I didn't quite understand that it wasn't the carrier holding me back (Wind's P999 is still officially on Froyo if I'm not mistaken ... I installed CM7 immediately so I don't know if one update ever made it out).
Nothing but love for everyone here who tried to squeeze some additional life out of this device. Hell, if giveen manages to get the radio working (others have tried previously) then I'd say the G2x can once again be a half decent phone.
It's truly a shame that a vendor as large as LG would treat a community of consumers so poorly. Never again LG, never again ...

I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL

I don't think they screwed us that bad. From the get go lots of people had issues with this phone and chances are they have a new phone by now. I've had mine for 2 1/2 years now. Its the only phone I've been able to keep. Yes a working ics would be awesome but when I bought the phone I had no idea what any of that was lol. I played w/ a nexus4 and even though it was cool didn't feel the need to spend all that money for features I wouldn't use. Everything I need to do I can do on this phone. So on a scale of 1-10 I would give a 5 only because they screwed alot of people from the get go.
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Its all because of the tegra 2 chip, it was no longer supported by them...although samsung still does which is odd and awesome :0 stupid LG... if it had a qualcomm chipset it would still be have support from LG therefore never buy tegra devices lmao:silly:

10! Terribly mishandled by lg and they wiped their hands clean and pretended phone never existed. Backlight bleeding, major software issues even on gingerbread, yea we all know the potential it had but oh well. Ran with it for two years and glad to have left this junk phone behind
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giveen said:
I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL
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That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.

alexbevi said:
That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.
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Yeah, I am pretty disappointed myself. I came in here thinking that it would be a snap but I ended up stuck just as everyone else.
Its always proprietary files that are the issue.

It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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bluenote73 said:
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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I'm pretty sure it is LG though. If LG doesn't release updates to the carriers, the carriers can't spend months and months injecting bloatware into those updates before releasing them to us. the suckers ...er customers.

bluenote73 said:
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!

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Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store

should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol

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should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol
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Nexus 4 is boss . I love this phone. Won't need to get the n5 anytime soon .

alexbevi said:
It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store
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What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
i would give a 9 for my experience with LG. within months the headphone jack went bad and would barely hold the plug, the usb port is crappy, and sometimes wouldn't charge properly (both were denied under warrenty. The lack of updates is the biggest issues. The only reason this phone had life is because of the Hard work of modders then they went and fudged all that with the new base band update that broke the Bluetooth for modded phones.
At the time this was suppose to be their flagship phone, it was also the beefiest and fastest phone on the market, I was told like may others it will be updated only to get nothing out of it. Worse is that they allowed and branded it incorrectly in the Canadian Market.
I'll give it a point since it was built like a brick, i have dropped it so many times (after the aforementioned issues) and it still kept chugging for just over 2 years, eventually the screen went weird and acted like someone was constantly tapping it so i swapped it with an S4, a phone i know for sure will be supported and i can actually find proper accessories for it. The price point of the Nexus 5 is temping for sure, but when i check most cell phone stores in my area They carry mainly iphone and samsung accessories, which make up over 80% of the stock in some stores. This goes to show the popularity of the phones

icewolf293 said:
What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
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It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone

alexbevi said:
It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone
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The original premise of Wind was no contracts, you buy a phone from them full price, choose a plan, choose a payment option (pre or post paid) and done. People wanted subsidized phones so they brought out the Wind tab. Here you are paying for the phone AFTER you used it not before, there are still no extra fees for it if you want to leave early. And it's 24 months, never has it been 36 months. In the end you are still buying the phone and used it for quite some time now, except now for you it's $290 vs $350, you still saved money I don't get how It's not worth it?

Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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This was more of a gangbang situation. Lg got some, nvidia got some, and T-Mobile got a piece too. And if you're unfortunate enough to be screwed by wind they seem even more despicable still! Wind definitely deserves a 10.
Lg 8 for putting this particular modem on this particular phone.
Nvidia 4 for being present lol
T-mobile 5 for acting like this phone was the poop and then tossing it like a dirty diaper.
On the brighter side a lot of us are reaching the end of the line with this thing and if nothing else it's been a great learning experience. This phone is so picky about kernels and settings and charging that we've had to become super disciplined about how we treat our phone or else it burns your nightstand. Plus having witnessed the long and frustrating journey of many devs pushing this phone just a little further each time has definitely enlightened me on how hard these guys work for something we all profit from. Holy crap this post got long! My bad. Carry on.

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Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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Granted but he shouldn't really be complaining about the price of a phone he bought a year ago and using all this time, he should pay the price of when he started using it, not how much it's worth a year later, it's really just a selfish attitude