I have a friend who works at wind trelling me they are discontuing the g2x. we all know why. Here's to more proof no official ics is coming.
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Well wind didn't even give gingerbread, was anyone really expecting ics?
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Wind EOL'd this device months ago in Ottawa. Still, when I called the loyalty department and was like, and why'd you EOL the device before it's even been out for a year? They had no comment, wish they'd let us exchange these POS's
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Wind EOL'd this device months ago in Ottawa. Still, when I called the loyalty department and was like, and why'd you EOL the device before it's even been out for a year? They had no comment, wish they'd let us exchange these POS's
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I'm thinking of selling this and getting a S2
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joeyxl said:
I'm thinking of selling this and getting a S2
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I'm also disappointed at wind. I got my g2x 3 months ago and I have a 3 year term contract with them. I'd rather have an S2 or Nexus S.
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I'm also disappointed at wind. I got my g2x 3 months ago and I have a 3 year term contract with them. I'd rather have an S2 or Nexus S.
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Ouch, that's why I could never do a three year contract.
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I'm also disappointed at wind. I got my g2x 3 months ago and I have a 3 year term contract with them. I'd rather have an S2 or Nexus S.
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Don't you mean you've got a WindTab which subsidizes the phone and at the end of the 3rd year WIND writes off the remaining balance owed?
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I'm also disappointed at wind. I got my g2x 3 months ago and I have a 3 year term contract with them. I'd rather have an S2 or Nexus S.
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I know how you feel I'm in at 7 months with wind tab though I can upgrade now but I treading the waters carefully I thing I may buy a gnex on kijiji and put my sim in it I know I'm losing money but from its only nexus
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I have WindTab+ and will wait until the end of this year to see what transpires with updates for the G2X/WIND Optimus 2X/P999. If no update to ICS, at least, appears by then, I will deem this phone to be abandoned by LG and WIND and probably file a Small Claims Court claim against WIND (and LG if that's possible) for misleadingly selling the phone as "upgradeable". In addition to that claim, another one of the arguments in my claim will be that the utility and resale value of the phone is seriously diminished because of the non-existent of any "upgrade" from WIND and LG. I'll ask for a refund of what I've paid for the phone, it's residual value owed to WIND and court and other costs. If I do replace this phone, the only Android phone I will buy is a Google Nexus because it will get updated regularly. Alternatively, I will buy an iPhone 5 because Apple regularly updates their phones for much longer than Android phones get updated and they retain high resale value.
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I have WindTab+ and will wait until the end of this year to see what transpires with updates for the G2X/WIND Optimus 2X/P999. If no update to ICS, at least, appears by then, I will deem this phone to be abandoned by LG and WIND and probably file a Small Claims Court claim against WIND (and LG if that's possible) for misleadingly selling the phone as "upgradeable". In addition to that claim, another one of the arguments in my claim will be that the utility and resale value of the phone is seriously diminished because of the non-existent of any "upgrade" from WIND and LG. I'll ask for a refund of what I've paid for the phone, it's residual value owed to WIND and court and other costs. If I do replace this phone, the only Android phone I will buy is a Google Nexus because it will get updated regularly. Alternatively, I will buy an iPhone 5 because Apple regularly updates their phones for much longer than Android phones get updated and they retain high resale value.
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i want to wait it out and see if we get any updates or the new nexus but i don't know if I can do it and most of the sales ppl dont know about phones in general this dude actually told me that the phone couldn't run ics and i showed him mine running owains kang and told him i had it oc'ed and he said that it was the only way i could run ics if i had it up to the max and i was like dude its only oced by 10% and it runs very well underclocked which i proceeded to show him. to which i told him wind is full of bull the g2x is a gaming first and phone second the tegra 2 is a very good processor but it cant use its full potential becuz lg/nvidia wont release source the only limiting thing is the ram but it is a good pjone and wind screwed us over big time
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i want to wait it out and see if we get any updates or the new nexus but i don't know if I can do it and most of the sales ppl dont know about phones in general this dude actually told me that the phone couldn't run ics and i showed him mine running owains kang and told him i had it oc'ed and he said that it was the only way i could run ics if i had it up to the max and i was like dude its only oced by 10% and it runs very well underclocked which i proceeded to show him. to which i told him wind is full of bull the g2x is a gaming first and phone second the tegra 2 is a very good processor but it cant use its full potential becuz lg/nvidia wont release source the only limiting thing is the ram but it is a good pjone and wind screwed us over big time
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WIND employees are no different than ROBELUS ones, they vary in knowledge from nothing through to nerds. Most are at the know nothing end of the spectrum and some are geeks, like the one you encountered, who think they know but don't and mislead people as you found out. Ultimately, like with anything, research, research, research and more research before buying anything expensive. The WIND Optimus 2X is the first "smart phone" I've owned and I believed the WIND and LG BS about it being "upgradeable" and would be upgraded by WIND to Gingerbread which hasn't occurred. I like the phone but I don't like WIND, LG, and NVIDIA and, somewhat, Google for not requiring any phone manufacturer which uses Android to keep the phone's version of Android up-to-date in a timely manner at least as long as Google does for its Nexus phone. For the most part, it is the independent developer community such as those who post at xdadevelopers that keep phones such as the G2X and Optimus 2X updated but they are only able to succeed incrementally as they learn more about an Android release and, with ICS and Jelly Bean, are blocked from fully enabling those and other NVIDIA SOC Tegra2 phones. I am now at "Fool me once, shame on you." Hopefully I won't wind up as "Fool me twice, shame on me."
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WIND employees are no different than ROBELUS ones, they vary in knowledge from nothing through to nerds. Most are at the know nothing end of the spectrum and some are geeks, like the one you encountered, who think they know but don't and mislead people as you found out. Ultimately, like with anything, research, research, research and more research before buying anything expensive. The WIND Optimus 2X is the first "smart phone" I've owned and I believed the WIND and LG BS about it being "upgradeable" and would be upgraded by WIND to Gingerbread which hasn't occurred. I like the phone but I don't like WIND, LG, and NVIDIA and, somewhat, Google for not requiring any phone manufacturer which uses Android to keep the phone's version of Android up-to-date in a timely manner at least as long as Google does for its Nexus phone. For the most part, it is the independent developer community such as those who post at xdadevelopers that keep phones such as the G2X and Optimus 2X updated but they are only able to succeed incrementally as they learn more about an Android release and, with ICS and Jelly Bean, are blocked from fully enabling those and other NVIDIA SOC Tegra2 phones. I am now at "Fool me once, shame on you." Hopefully I won't wind up as "Fool me twice, shame on me."
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That is so true, that's why I don't want to upgrade because ill tie myself into WindTab again so if we dont get ICS for the O2x ill try to wait for the new nexus of buy the gnex and just pop in my sim and revert the G2X to CM7 and give it to my mom
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That is so true, that's why I don't want to upgrade because ill tie myself into WindTab again so if we dont get ICS for the O2x ill try to wait for the new nexus of buy the gnex and just pop in my sim and revert the G2X to CM7 and give it to my mom
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Good plan.
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That is so true, that's why I don't want to upgrade because ill tie myself into WindTab again so if we dont get ICS for the O2x ill try to wait for the new nexus of buy the gnex and just pop in my sim and revert the G2X to CM7 and give it to my mom
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You hate your mom that much?
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You hate your mom that much?
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Lmao thats great
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You hate your mom that much?
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lol too funny. not at all my mom isnt tech savy and believe me i tried to turn her from the dark side but she doesnt budge easily i practically had to beg her to take my HTC s620 aka TMO Dash when i got my G1 and she still has it. all she does is make calls and thats it period. now come to think of it i had cupcake running on it, though it was a proof of concept and alot of things were broken i fiddled with it and got data and the cell radio to work and it was pretty functional its pretty funny how android could run on a 200 mhz cpu in the good ol days. i think just for the fun of it I'll get back the Dash and resurrect my G1 and try to get the dash to boot android from start instead of booting it from inside of WM 6.5
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Thing is... LG WERE advertising the P999 as upgradable for a while ON THEIR Canadian website. I got my LG in January and remember seeing this. Then probably end of January or sometime in February, that "upgradable" disappeared. Wind got their specs page from LG. So, in my mind, Wind is NOT at fault here. The fault and problem lie entirely with LG Canada. If we could find an archived version of the LG website that showed the word "upgradable", then LG would be the one to go after. They ARE the manufacturers of the handset.
Thanks goodness for CM and for XDA developers for their hard (and probably sometimes thankless) work in getting ROM's to us that work really well.
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I have WindTab+ and will wait until the end of this year to see what transpires with updates for the G2X/WIND Optimus 2X/P999. If no update to ICS, at least, appears by then, I will deem this phone to be abandoned by LG and WIND and probably file a Small Claims Court claim against WIND (and LG if that's possible) for misleadingly selling the phone as "upgradeable". In addition to that claim, another one of the arguments in my claim will be that the utility and resale value of the phone is seriously diminished because of the non-existent of any "upgrade" from WIND and LG. I'll ask for a refund of what I've paid for the phone, it's residual value owed to WIND and court and other costs. If I do replace this phone, the only Android phone I will buy is a Google Nexus because it will get updated regularly. Alternatively, I will buy an iPhone 5 because Apple regularly updates their phones for much longer than Android phones get updated and they retain high resale value.
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Thing is... LG WERE advertising the P999 as upgradable for a while ON THEIR Canadian website. I got my LG in January and remember seeing this. Then probably end of January or sometime in February, that "upgradable" disappeared. Wind got their specs page from LG. So, in my mind, Wind is NOT at fault here. The fault and problem lie entirely with LG Canada. If we could find an archived version of the LG website that showed the word "upgradable", then LG would be the one to go after. They ARE the manufacturers of the handset.
Thanks goodness for CM and for XDA developers for their hard (and probably sometimes thankless) work in getting ROM's to us that work really well.
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I may have the web pages saved but I have to search a few hard drives. I'll search them over the next couple of days then post if I've found them. The problem with suing is that we purchased the phone from WIND so our contract is with WIND, not LG, which means that we can sue WIND directly but not LG but we may be able to add LG as a party and subpoena information from LG and their presence at a trial. Here's a link to the Small Claims Court Forms for Ontario: http://www.ontariocourtforms.on.ca/english/scc
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I'm wondering what you guys think. Will the gingerbread update be the last official update the g2x gets? Or do you think it will get ice cream sandwich and beyond?
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Officially? Who knows. But the fantastic devs will almost certainly release custom roms the will go beyond gingerbread.
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The alpha omega update? This was the case with the HTC shadow, just 1 update, it's first and last.
Any way what would be great and keep our G2x top of the line and extend it's life would be if nvidia were to release driver updates for the CPU/GPU, as they do for their PC graphics cards.
Nvidia is awesome at releasing timely updates of their video drivers, hopefully they consider doing it for their tegra chips.
One of the key points of doing a stock Android is to have a constant stream of releases. Once the bugs are worked out....updating to the most current android should not be a lot of new work.
The G2x has enough horsepower to run many more updates than just one or two
If not then it will be ported.
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I hope we do get more updates.
The thing is that LG is new in this game and I really hope they start doing best practices from other businesses, maybe Nvidia can help them push a little as well as T-Mobile to keep releasing updates even though that T-Mobile is less than likely to push them since they want to sell the last new thing.
But yeah, if they wise they'll and really care about their customers and want to position theirselves as one of the smartphone companies then they'll have to have the updates coming.
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Honestly I don't understand why this phone couldn't get multiple updates. I thought the whole reason for it having basic Android was so that it could be easier to udate. As well, rumor mill has it that later versions of Android are going to require a dual core, well this phone has everything under the hood for it to have a long shelf life. I hope they do right by this phone.
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Didn't the big phone companies recently promise Google they'd update their phones on a timely (regular?) basis.....
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Didn't the big phone companies recently promise Google they'd update their phones on a timely (regular?) basis.....
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For the first 18 months after release. Its part of their contract with Google and the open hand set alliance.
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I think it remains to be seen if this phone is even a viable product. Will the phone ever be back in stock and saleable from T-Mo?
If a jillion more G2xs are sold then we will see many updates and a bunch of dev support. But, if the phone is never brought back then we are stuck in a dead end with a failed experiment.
I believe LG's future as trusted top-tier brand is at stake, but I'm still not certain they'll ever get it right.
If this update fixes all the issues and allows tmobile to resume selling their stock, than it will probably see more updates.
If after all this time they still can't get it right, and tmobile refuses to sell their stock? She'll be dead Jim. Of course this is all speculation... Nobody knows.
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People act like this is lg's first android phone ...I'm thinking the only way we get limited updates is of the merger goes through
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It'll be just like the g2, numerous updates because it's stock android...oh wait, nvm.
My guess is GB will be the last update.
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People act like this is lg's first android phone ...I'm thinking the only way we get limited updates is of the merger goes through
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They have made a lot of second tier also-ran Android phones, but this is their first attempt at a serious smartphone contender in this market.
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For the first 18 months after release. Its part of their contract with Google and the open hand set alliance.
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Then we should see updates until September of 2012, no?
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They have made a lot of second tier also-ran Android phones, but this is their first attempt at a serious smartphone contender in this market.
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And?
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And?
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And... it remains to be seen if LG is ultimately capable of producing and supporting a top tier Android smartphone. Right now the answer to that question is no.
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I think it remains to be seen if this phone is even a viable product. Will the phone ever be back in stock and saleable from T-Mo?
If a jillion more G2xs are sold then we will see many updates and a bunch of dev support. But, if the phone is never brought back then we are stuck in a dead end with a failed experiment.
I believe LG's future as trusted top-tier brand is at stake, but I'm still not certain they'll ever get it right.
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Crack smoking dreaming. The G2x is still being sold, that the actual web-store of T-Mobile does not have any instock is meaningless. They still are supporting their distribution channel, so those partners are not feeling left out in the cold. Amazon, Wirefly, Costco...they all still sell them. It is lame, very lame to define selling the phones from T-mobile as just via their webstore.
If you were selling phones for T-mobile as a third-party vendor, would you be happy that T-mobile hoards the supply? Or would you raise the price to make your vendors prices seem much better than they could do directly.
Thinking that LG that makes lots of phones, is going down by the simple fact that a backlight turned up to max brightness shows some bleed. Turning to max brightness in a darkroom even to watch movies is not likely.
Users already report that custom ROMs fix most if not all the software caused problem.
So your theory is that LG can not duplicate, or even outright use as basis other coders solutions to fix the problems. What are you 15?
Actually I'm 48, I've been working in IT since the early 90s and I haven't smoked any crack in months.
People keep fliping out on the G2X and calling it a failure. Here's a secret. Less than 1% of all the G2X's sold have been returned to TMO, I would say that's pretty awesome and does not signify any major issues. People are not screaming about the Sidekick 4G being a major flop even though you can't get it in stores or on the web right now either. It's called product shortage. The manufacutrer produced to little to keep up with the demand and that is unfortunate.
As for the long term upgrade viability of the phone, being a stock Android phone I see this phone having a nice healthy span for at least the next 18 months whether by Tmo and Google or through the Developers. The hardware can support it so there will be nothing stoping it.
The droid prime is suppose to be the successor to the droid charge, that's my problem with android. The charge just came out a couple of months back, and yet to receive a major update! What samsung should be doing is updating there flag ship phones first, there just selfish, knowing people will continue buying there new products they just leave us to rot. these phones come out way to fast, can we get a chance to enjoy the phone with gb first? The prime will probably be out before we even get gb smh. HELLO SAMSUNG AND VERIZON, THE DROID CHARGE IS ONE OF YOUR FLAGSHIP DEVICES, UPDATE TO THE LATEST SOFTWARE!, THEY RELEASE A BUGGY PHONE FOR NEARLY 600$ AND I GOT MINE FREE! JUST IMAGINE IF I WOULD'VE PAID I'D BE REALLY PISSED. bottom line is the droid charge is a great phone and I want to use it to its full potential before I upgrade to a newer device.spread the word care for your customers
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So would you rather they release buggy software prematurely to fix a buggy phone? They've been working on GB (and it's been leaking), which is why I've been enjoying GB for well over a month. Anyways, what you're upset about is the way the cell phone industry tends to work. They're not going to stop updating their model lines just because they haven't put out an update for existing models yet.
Just imagine how Thunderbolt owners feel.
Correction: Droid(Nexus) Prime time is a Nexus successor.
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phone envy is frequent for me personally
whenever a new phone comes out i get pissed i bought my previous one
but honestly the prime and charge have little connection to each other...if the prime is a nexus phone then basically its a samsung designed phone that google does the software for, so it would have no impact whatsoever on touchwiz updates for the charge
samsung has submitted dozens of builds to verizon and from what i can see each one gets better and better
is it annoying that there is no official gb yet? sure but the same could be said for the fascinate or even worse no official FROYO for the continuum
vzw and samsung combo equals slow updates
its a reality of buying from those two and its not a secret (droid branding or not)
the thunderbolt doesnt have official gb either fwiw nor the lg lte phone
i personally have an inc2 and wont be pissed when the vigor comes out (same time frame inc2 launch to vigor vs charge launch to prime)...granted i have several upgrades and will probably just go pick that up too
The Droid Prime is likely NOT to be a Nexus device (or else it would have the Nexus name). It's software will most likely be managed by Verizon, rather than Google, and probably carry all of the crapware we've all come to know and love hate.
Phone dev cycles seem to be roughly bi-annually to quarterly, depending on the software and hardware available. At any given time, any one dev shop (HTC, Samsung, wherever) will be simultaneously be working on at least 2 software versions for any given device (as evidenced by the lower build date on the Fascinate's initial GB leak compared to the final FroYo leak).
And to pick some nits with the OP:
supposed, their, they're, their, too
Thank you BGR for starting the DROID Prime rumor. NO ONE knows what the device will be when it shows up, when it will show up, or much of anything else about it. We have a few unconfirmed details, but that is it. The people that do know what the device will be called aren't talking. Also, just because it is labeled with DROID doesn't mean that it won't be a Google Experience Phone. Unless you have physical proof of what you're talking about, it would be great of everyone to stop with the DROID Prime rumor until the actual device name is announced.
Another thing is, touch wiz 4 is out.so why aren't we going to get the latest update of touchwiz? Thats just bs, if you have updated software, update your damn your damn phones to the latest software! Whats an update if there not updating the ui
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Another thing is, touch wiz 4 is out.so why aren't we going to get the latest update of touchwiz? Thats just bs, if you have updated software, update your damn your damn phones to the latest software! Whats an update if there not updating the ui
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Could be that features of TW4 require something specific to the SGS2 phone. Or, Samsung doesn't want to back-port it on their own. Either way, nothing you can really do about it.
If you buy a car, and they change the features on the next model year, do you go and complain to the car manufacturer/dealer like this? You're spending significantly more than $600 for a new car, so I'd hope so...
Smells like buyers remorse in here.
There's a thread like this one in every phone's forum on XDA without exception.
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Could be that features of TW4 require something specific to the SGS2 phone. Or, Samsung doesn't want to back-port it on their own. Either way, nothing you can really do about it.
If you buy a car, and they change the features on the next model year, do you go and complain to the car manufacturer/dealer like this? You're spending significantly more than $600 for a new car, so I'd hope so...
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They have the software, and its not hardware that I'm complaining about, but software updates like touch wiz 4 should even be on the fascinate, and no buyers remorse here since I didn't even buy the phone. Its just how it should be, but no problem, I will get the samsung prime knowing they won't be able to improve the next gen devices by alot.the wave of android phones will slow down significantly. Peace xda family
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Smells like buyers remorse in here.
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Nope didn't even buy the phone, I'm still eligible for an upgrade
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Coming to the Charge from the Fascinate I knew damn well that this would happen but I took it anyway as it was the best option (and still is... LOL bionic), and I don't regret it at all... if you haven't figured out by now that there's gonna be a new phone out every six months or so thats 10 times better than your current one then you must be new to android... I know it must take a lot to try and update the tons of phones a carrier has on each cell provider, making specific coding changes to get it to work with the individual phones hardware and whatnot so I don't mind and will be more than happy to burn an upgrade or drop some money on the new beast thats out at the time
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Also, just because it is labeled with DROID doesn't mean that it won't be a Google Experience Phone. Unless you have physical proof of what you're talking about, it would be great of everyone to stop with the DROID Prime rumor until the actual device name is announced.
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Exactly. Motorola Droid, anyone? Google Experience phone(even though I don't remember if it had any of the Verizon bloatware)
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Nope didn't even buy the phone, I'm still eligible for an upgrade
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That includes quite a high percentage of people on this forum...lol
Is there any confirmation that the Prime is even going to be released on Verizon?
DirgeExtinction said:
Exactly. Motorola Droid, anyone? Google Experience phone(even though I don't remember if it had any of the Verizon bloatware)
Your right, hopefully droid prime gets pure google like the motorola droid did
That includes quite a high percentage of people on this forum...lol
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The droid prime is suppose to be the successor to the droid charge, that's my problem with android. The charge just came out a couple of months back, and yet to receive a major update!
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Buy an iCrap if you want boxed up updates with a nice bow and personal nametag.
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THEY RELEASE A BUGGY PHONE FOR NEARLY 600$ AND I GOT MINE FREE!
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I DID pay for this phone and am in no way pissed at samsung or verizon. You got the phone for free, so shut your mouth and count your blessings.
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there just selfish, knowing people will continue buying there new products they just leave us to rot
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Technology changes faster than a retards underwear.
Also, aren't the samsung droid charge devs on xda? What updates aren't you getting
Last thing....
Your problem with android is superior technology and forward motion?
I guess im confused.
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Nope didn't even buy the phone, I'm still eligible for an upgrade
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Buyer/owner, whatever...my point was that you sound like you don't want the phone in its current state. I'm running a Gingerbread ROM with the TouchWiz 4.0 launcher. If your biggest complaint is the lack of those two things, they've both been available for those willing to put them on the phone themselves.
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They have the software, and its not hardware that I'm complaining about, but software updates like touch wiz 4 should even be on the fascinate, and no buyers remorse here since I didn't even buy the phone. Its just how it should be, but no problem, I will get the samsung prime knowing they won't be able to improve the next gen devices by alot.the wave of android phones will slow down significantly. Peace xda family
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It's called technology ... it's moving forward. Once the phones catch up to the current technology, the onslaught of phones will stop ... just like you stated. The fact you even brought this up, about a phone that details about the phone aren't even released yet. Much less even said to be released on the Verizon network ... is redundant in itself. You're a troll, and must be treated as such. I would ignore any comments this moron makes just for the simple fact he's moaning about a device he may not even see. Not to mention ... Droid Charge isn't even Verizon's "flagship" phone. That would be the Bionic. Have a nice day.
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It's called technology ... it's moving forward. Once the phones catch up to the current technology, the onslaught of phones will stop ... just like you stated. The fact you even brought this up, about a phone that details about the phone aren't even released yet. Much less even said to be released on the Verizon network ... is redundant in itself. You're a troll, and must be treated as such. I would ignore any comments this moron makes just for the simple fact he's moaning about a device he may not even see. Not to mention ... Droid Charge isn't even Verizon's "flagship" phone. That would be the Bionic. Have a nice day.
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Hater, your the troll I just said what was on my mind about the manufacturer never said the droid charge wasn't a great phone so how am I trolling, I dislike people like you who come on the forum just to talk smack about a person's thoughts, speak on the subject not about me you punk.have a good day, you need it.
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http://www.tmonews.com/2012/02/t-mo...lg-g2x/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Looks promising
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Sounds good. I sure hope they don't screw up with it as they did with the G2x.
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I have no faith in that future lol.
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I have no faith in that future lol.
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so if lg had not hand in making this device with the above specs it would soundssomewhat promising.
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so if lg had not hand in making this device with the above specs it would soundssomewhat promising.
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The 720p & 21mbps thing also lg should be stepping their game up lol... I'll be going for specific processor chips from now on, I'm tired of the run around lol. Don't want to have to rely on awesome devs to support us.
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Not to be overly cynical, but I think this might be the reason LG hasn't outright said they will upgrade our phone to ICS. I fail to see how this new one would be such a cut above ours other than it will be sporting ICS. And yes, I know that LG has stated they will upgrade the O2X and they are basically the same phone so let's stay off of that merry-go-round.
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It will be hilarious if the next phone to that is G8x. G8 in Chinese sounds the same as the male part. Some believe it the reason why Canon skipped PowerShot G8 and directly to G9.
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It'll be called the Optimus 3x, and the T-mobile version will be the G3x, because of the Tegra 3.
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Not to be overly cynical, but I think this might be the reason LG hasn't outright said they will upgrade our phone to ICS. I fail to see how this new one would be such a cut above ours other than it will be sporting ICS. And yes, I know that LG has stated they will upgrade the O2X and they are basically the same phone so let's stay off of that merry-go-round.
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Quad core processing, will have at least a gig of RAM, so twice as much RAM, 100% faster processing times. Not to mention a 4.7 inch screen, real 720p HD screen and 21 mbps radio instead of 14.4.
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It'll be called the Optimus 3x, and the T-mobile version will be the G3x, because of the Tegra 3.
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That makes way more sense than G4x.
However, I am an LG owner scorned. It's either iPhone or Nexus device for me.
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That makes way more sense than G4x.
However, I am an LG owner scorned. It's either iPhone or Nexus device for me.
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This is a very tempting phone. But it's just hard to put all your cards in LG and nVidia again.
I will buy g4x, the screen on g2x look way better than Samsung and HTC phones, hopefully g4x will have nice and easy to clean screen.
If only it didn't say lg on it. Smh
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With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )
That's not wise at all…. LG will never ever guarantee that, considering android is developed by a different company. Who knows if future iterations of android will require significantly more power. Google's own Nexus One isn't even being updated to ICS, and that was only 2 years ago. Also LG will never be able to sell any low or mid range phones, considering they don't have top of the line hardware to begin with.
Then if LG fail to deliver their promise based on the first point, they have to essentially buy back 2-3 year old hardware they had already sold at their original price.
That idea is ludicrous and there is a reason it hasn't been implemented.
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With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )
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rauelius said:
With Samsung dominating the Android phone market, it would be wise for LG to pull a Hyundai. Meaning, institute a 3 year update Guarantee on all phones going forward. Basically, within 3 months of a major release of Android (Think Eclair->Froyo->Gingerbread) you are Guaranteed the update, or you get a full refund on the price of the phone(What you paid for the phone when you bought it, granted you actually have to contact LG before getting the refund) That way you know that when you buy an LG phone you are assured you will have an updated phone. Sounds crazy? People said a 10 year warrantee was crazy, but Hyundai is doing pretty damn awesome right now. And 3 years worth of updates isn't asking for a heck of a lot.
Imagine the impact this would have on the industry? If successful, this would force HTC, Samsung, Motorola and other manufactures to get their stuff together and support phones instead of slight upgrades throughout the year (Think Droid3->Droid4 and Atrix->Atrix2, as well as the Myriad of phones related to the original EVO 4G).
It'll take a true leader to show this industry changing innovation, and someone who isn't a foolish corporate pig to pull it off. I just don't know if any corporation that makes our beloved phones have the courage or the scruples to actually try this.
Imagine, even as a sheeple consumer, seeing on a phone 3 year update guarantee on a big sticker on the box. Most would wonder what makes that special, and on the back can be a section explaining how most phones are forgotten a couple months after release, but if you get an LG phone, you are guarenteed your money back, if your phone isn't updated to the newest OS within three months of release. Then it could go on about how the updates help security and stability with the phone, as well as better support for future apps.
Could turn LG's business around. But what do I know? I just put out good ideas while the execs at LG release a highly anticipated phone only to have it fall on its face and walk away from it pretending it never happened, leaving it's customers high and dry...they clearly know what they are doing. Put me in charge of LG and I promise that they will be the smartphone leader in 2 years (any LG people listening ;P )
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You, sir, are a genius.
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Yeah, basically same thing that was said about Hyundai, thanks for proving my point! "How can you support a car for 10 Years?!?!" And honestly, ICS really should've been release for the Nexus One. Low end phones going forward will be at about the level of the G2x and the original Transformer (Look up ZTE Tegra2 phone, it's considered a mid-level 2012 phone). Besides, this could be offered only to premium handsets.
Also, you assume that 100% of the people will actually take advantage of the warranty. Reality is about 12.5% actually use the warranty on products. I actually learned 30% in marketing, and in my 10 years in corporate business, it's actually more like 12.5%. Better marketing, vs at most 30% of people taking advantage of it (unrealistic)
The idea isn't ludicrous, it just saddens me that their are such self-limited minds out there.
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That's not wise at all…. LG will never ever guarantee that, considering android is developed by a different company. Who knows if future iterations of android will require significantly more power. Google's own Nexus One isn't even being updated to ICS, and that was only 2 years ago. Also LG will never be able to sell any low or mid range phones, considering they don't have top of the line hardware to begin with.
Then if LG fail to deliver their promise based on the first point, they have to essentially buy back 2-3 year old hardware they had already sold at their original price.
That idea is ludicrous and there is a reason it hasn't been implemented.
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Hands on video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CjvtFW5cgI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I know HTC has said 500 times or more "ICS is on its way"
but its like 6+ months later than they said
do you think we will see ICS for our T-Bolts?
ive read a million articles, and cant find a recent-ish one
thanks a ton everyone!
and by the way can I have some opinions about the DNA or Galaxy Note 2....one of those bad boys are my next upgrade and to me they are pretty equal, but opinions would be welcome and helpful
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I know HTC has said 500 times or more "ICS is on its way"
but its like 6+ months later than they said
do you think we will see ICS for our T-Bolts?
ive read a million articles, and cant find a recent-ish one
thanks a ton everyone!
and by the way can I have some opinions about the DNA or Galaxy Note 2....one of those bad boys are my next upgrade and to me they are pretty equal, but opinions would be welcome and helpful
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I'm doubting an official release of ICS for the Thunderbolt. I'm hoping for HTC to release more sources so that we can just build it ourselves.
And as far as those two phones go, get the DNA. Or wait until February and get the HTC M7.
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I'm doubting an official release of ICS for the Thunderbolt. I'm hoping for HTC to release more sources so that we can just build it ourselves.
And as far as those two phones go, get the DNA. Or wait until February and get the HTC M7.
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the only downfall with the dna in my opinion is that HTC makes it
now im not a htc hater, in fact they are the company that make me jump on the android ship, and ive loved them until I had the thunderbolt, rezound and incredible 4g
with the lack of updates from HTC im affraid to get the DNA, the best comparison is the droid razr and rezound; the razr has 4.1 ready to roll out in early Q1 2013 (there was an "accidental" ota update a few weeks back that gave a few hundred uses android 4.1, and motorola confirmed android 4.1 in early Q1) where the HTC rezound may get 4.1 but it will prolly be around june- and I honestly think thats on the early side.
but If HTC shows better upgrades ide jump over there to the DNA right now
Well if it makes you feel any better. The DNA already has sources out for it and it had them released the first couple of weeks of its release. It is very unlikely that a phone with the power that the dna has won't get updates. The problem the thunderbolt has had the whole time is dual core phones were right around the corner when it was made and HTC blew it off for more powerful hardware.
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Well if it makes you feel any better. The DNA already has sources out for it and it had them released the first couple of weeks of its release. It is very unlikely that a phone with the power that the dna has won't get updates. The problem the thunderbolt has had the whole time is dual core phones were right around the corner when it was made and HTC blew it off for more powerful hardware.
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These are my thoughts exactly.
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Oh and on another note. Verizon is partially to blame for the lack of support and ics on this device. They keep stonewalling the update because I think they know we still have unlimited and they want us off of it. If they give us the update then it is unlikely we will upgrade anytime soon. You also can't forget that this phone was the first from Verizon that has the svdo capability which the source to that has been kept under lock and key for quite some time now. I think that Verizon is protecting that info because they may resurrect it later on. This and the rezound are the only two phones that are able to talk and surf even on 3g. The others that are able to do this use volte (voice over lte) which only works with 4g.
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As much as I hate using my tbolt everyday....I will be holding on to the tbolt until the next nexus phone is released for Verizon. I've had an update available for a while and would gladly go get a S3 but the tbolt experience has pushed me to the point of...nexus or nothing from here on out.
Never realized how slow my TB is until I got a Nexus 7.
Anyway, I'm waiting for either the Galaxy S4 or the next Google/Moto phone. Maybe the HTC M7, depending on when the others are available.
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As much as I hate using my tbolt everyday....I will be holding on to the tbolt until the next nexus phone is released for Verizon. I've had an update available for a while and would gladly go get a S3 but the tbolt experience has pushed me to the point of...nexus or nothing from here on out.
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Probably going to be waiting awhile... There is a reason you don't see the nexus4 on Verizon
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I don't know why everyone insists on blaming HTC for lack of updates on the Thunderbolt.
It's not entirely in their hands, or I believe we would have had it long ago.
The biggest issue is actually the network itself and is what's held up many updates for various devices, in my opinion.
If you think a Nexus on VZW will make things different, THINK AGAIN.(I urge you to read the link)
No matter how good or common, or baseline a device may seem to be, it will never make the carrier any better.
Verizon just plain old SUCKS at getting updates out.
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I don't know why everyone insists on blaming HTC for lack of updates on the Thunderbolt.
It's not entirely in their hands, or I believe we would have had it long ago.
The biggest issue is actually the network itself and is what's held up many updates for various devices, in my opinion.
If you think a Nexus on VZW will make things different, THINK AGAIN.(I urge you to read the link)
No matter how good or common, or baseline a device may seem to be, it will never make the carrier any better.
Verizon just plain old SUCKS at getting updates out.
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and it wont change. ever. they have moved away from customer support because they don't need to worry about happy customers if they already have them tied down for two years. and all those issues people have disappear when its time to upgrade and the consumer is happy again. then the cycle begins again
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thanks for the feedback everyone!
I know HTC isnt just to blame, BUT if you look at apple for instance (sorry for bringing them up) they can do what they want with their phones, and the carriers can pretty much shove it if they dont like it.
now my question is this, why can apple do what they want (ex no bloatware, and updates whenever they see fit) and android companies (HTC, LG, Samsung, And even Google with the case of a nexus) cant?
I left my Thunderbolt for a Galaxy Note II and I absolutely love it. It is the perfect size for me, and it still manages to sit comfortably in my pockets. The phone overall is excellent, but the two features that stand out are the stylus and the battery life.
I did not consider getting the DNA because it has an inferior screen (resolution aside,) and the battery life has been reported to be horrendous. I would say either the Note II or the GS3 are both very safe bets if you are looking to get a new phone.
As soon as my upgrade was up, I left my HTC Thunderbolt for a Samsung Galaxy Note II. I've waiting way too long for HTC or Verizon to update this phone. I've read article after article and posted on HTC's Facebook pages and no response. They've lost me as a customer (HTC, not Verizon; I'm not giving up my unlimited data!).
I suggest the Samsung SIII or the Samsung GNII. I love my Note II and think the Thunderbolt is soooooo tiny after using it (just took a look at my Thunderbolt 5 minutes ago to see what I can do with it without any service on it).
While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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I have two phones with unlimited data on my plan and if I took the share everything plan I would end paying $40 more a month and get less data than I actually need. Plus I still wouldn't get one of those phone subsidies you're talking about since I'm not eligible for upgrade for a while so I would definitely pay full retail for a phone before I lost unlimited. Also there are plenty of phones I could buy used that are excellent for half the price of retail or better.
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Never realized how slow my TB is until I got a Nexus 7.
Anyway, I'm waiting for either the Galaxy S4 or the next Google/Moto phone. Maybe the HTC M7, depending on when the others are available.
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I'm leaning towards the S4 myself. I'm done with HTC. Got a Tab 2 and I absolutely love Samsung
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As soon as my upgrade was up, I left my HTC Thunderbolt for a Samsung Galaxy Note II. I've waiting way too long for HTC or Verizon to update this phone. I've read article after article and posted on HTC's Facebook pages and no response. They've lost me as a customer (HTC, not Verizon; I'm not giving up my unlimited data!).
I suggest the Samsung SIII or the Samsung GNII. I love my Note II and think the Thunderbolt is soooooo tiny after using it (just took a look at my Thunderbolt 5 minutes ago to see what I can do with it without any service on it).
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All vzw customers will eventually lose unlimited data. They won't let you keep it forever. Mark my words
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Dannar said:
While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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Just like other guy stated I would be paying more if I went on share everything plan I don't use a crazy amount of data but 13-20 GB a month is where I sit. I am hoping Google releases a phone every year like the upcoming xphone so I can buy it off the play store, if they are in stock that is. But I will hold onto my unlimited data as long as I can cause their share everything plan is a joke, $40 for a smart phone access fee equals $29.99+$9.99 which is what we were already paying to buy the unlimited or 2gb or 4gb all they did was slap a two cent raise and hoped no one would notice. I noticed jerks!!!!
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HTC deserves some blame too - it seems like they gave the update to Verizon around September, which is still ten or eleven months after ICS was released.
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HTC deserves some blame too - it seems like they gave the update to Verizon around September, which is still ten or eleven months after ICS was released.
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That is true but how can we expect a company to push out an ota for a one year old device that probably 95% of the purchasers moved to a different device. We should all be happy that they got their crap together enough to give us this last one.
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If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?
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If I see another crappy metro/huawei or no name device with sub-par or similar hardware compared to our phone running official ics, jb or cm10.1 I'm going to grab it and light it on fire. When I bought this phone it was a toss up between the galaxy s2 and the g2x. I bought the g2x because Mr. T-Mobile man talked me into it (they were the same price.) This was before I really knew anything about android as far as rooting and custom firm of course. This device could easily be given an official ICS update at the VERY least. LG screwed us, hard and long. On a scale of 1-10 I give this screwing a 9, ONLY because the amazing developers we have here stretched this device to its absolute limits and continue to do more. If it weren't for them, well I don't even want to think about that. So on a scale of 1-10, how hard do you feel you've been screwed by LG?
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I'd actually rate it as a screwing of 10. The awesome quality of roms, updates and patches that the developers here have provided doesn't change the fact that LGE ****ed us over. I made A LOT of noise about this to Wind Mobile here in Canada early on because I didn't quite understand that it wasn't the carrier holding me back (Wind's P999 is still officially on Froyo if I'm not mistaken ... I installed CM7 immediately so I don't know if one update ever made it out).
Nothing but love for everyone here who tried to squeeze some additional life out of this device. Hell, if giveen manages to get the radio working (others have tried previously) then I'd say the G2x can once again be a half decent phone.
It's truly a shame that a vendor as large as LG would treat a community of consumers so poorly. Never again LG, never again ...
I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL
I don't think they screwed us that bad. From the get go lots of people had issues with this phone and chances are they have a new phone by now. I've had mine for 2 1/2 years now. Its the only phone I've been able to keep. Yes a working ics would be awesome but when I bought the phone I had no idea what any of that was lol. I played w/ a nexus4 and even though it was cool didn't feel the need to spend all that money for features I wouldn't use. Everything I need to do I can do on this phone. So on a scale of 1-10 I would give a 5 only because they screwed alot of people from the get go.
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Its all because of the tegra 2 chip, it was no longer supported by them...although samsung still does which is odd and awesome :0 stupid LG... if it had a qualcomm chipset it would still be have support from LG therefore never buy tegra devices lmao:silly:
10! Terribly mishandled by lg and they wiped their hands clean and pretended phone never existed. Backlight bleeding, major software issues even on gingerbread, yea we all know the potential it had but oh well. Ran with it for two years and glad to have left this junk phone behind
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giveen said:
I'm going to say almost no chance off me getting radio to work. I'm being honest.
I've looked over it, examined it with a few other dev's and a couple programmer friends and everything points that it should work, the only thing we can't look at is the precompiled RIL
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That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.
alexbevi said:
That's too bad, but knowing the amount of effort you and others have invested no one will complain (or shouldn't at least )
As soon as my contract is up and I can dump this phone without having to pay the remainder of the "Wind tab", I will be glad to move on to something that's NOT an LG product.
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Yeah, I am pretty disappointed myself. I came in here thinking that it would be a snap but I ended up stuck just as everyone else.
Its always proprietary files that are the issue.
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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bluenote73 said:
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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I'm pretty sure it is LG though. If LG doesn't release updates to the carriers, the carriers can't spend months and months injecting bloatware into those updates before releasing them to us. the suckers ...er customers.
bluenote73 said:
It's not LG, not really. It's the carrier. Cheap ass carriers like wind (froyo) and tmo (gb) are the real fault. It's not Tegra either, since p990 got ics.
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Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
mansa_noob said:
Then why did T-Mobile get GB and Wind did not? Wind ROMs have no bloatware at all.
From what I heard Wind didn't get the update because they didn't sell enough sets. That to me kind of makes sense.
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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I was agreeing with you above (lol, posted reply to the wrong one).
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In the absence of a valid argument, 2+1=3 may be used to explain why the g2x did not get the ICS update!
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It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store
should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol
Pain-N-Panic said:
should have gotten it. Updates for the nexus are handled by Google directly, NOT LG....thank god lol
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Nexus 4 is boss . I love this phone. Won't need to get the n5 anytime soon .
alexbevi said:
It still sucks ... especially for those of us suckers (*cough* me *cough*) who still have 14 months to go on their no contract "contract" with Wind.
Oh well, live an learn. This experience made me so wary of LG that I didn't snap up a nexus 4 when they were on sale in the play store
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What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
i would give a 9 for my experience with LG. within months the headphone jack went bad and would barely hold the plug, the usb port is crappy, and sometimes wouldn't charge properly (both were denied under warrenty. The lack of updates is the biggest issues. The only reason this phone had life is because of the Hard work of modders then they went and fudged all that with the new base band update that broke the Bluetooth for modded phones.
At the time this was suppose to be their flagship phone, it was also the beefiest and fastest phone on the market, I was told like may others it will be updated only to get nothing out of it. Worse is that they allowed and branded it incorrectly in the Canadian Market.
I'll give it a point since it was built like a brick, i have dropped it so many times (after the aforementioned issues) and it still kept chugging for just over 2 years, eventually the screen went weird and acted like someone was constantly tapping it so i swapped it with an S4, a phone i know for sure will be supported and i can actually find proper accessories for it. The price point of the Nexus 5 is temping for sure, but when i check most cell phone stores in my area They carry mainly iphone and samsung accessories, which make up over 80% of the stock in some stores. This goes to show the popularity of the phones
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What contract? if you want out buy the phone from them. Really and truthfully you are buying the phone either up front or to cancel the "contract" they do not hold you in nor charge you more then needed to pay for the phone. I still don't understand why this concept is so hard for people to understand.
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It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone
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It's not hard to understand at all, it just kind of sucks. The "original" price was $350 for the phone, which the Windtab covers (and nullifies at the end of 3 years). After 24 months, the tab is sitting at $290. I could buy the phone out, but it seems like a waste of money. I'm otherwise happy with wind so I'll keep an eye out for a replacement phone and just wait another year for the "contract" to expire.
I tend to ***** about the G2x mostly since it seemed to hold so much promise, was dropped very quickly by the manufacturer, and as a result I've got something that can't be updated, but I still have to pay for. I probably wouldn't complain as much if I'd already finished paying for the phone
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The original premise of Wind was no contracts, you buy a phone from them full price, choose a plan, choose a payment option (pre or post paid) and done. People wanted subsidized phones so they brought out the Wind tab. Here you are paying for the phone AFTER you used it not before, there are still no extra fees for it if you want to leave early. And it's 24 months, never has it been 36 months. In the end you are still buying the phone and used it for quite some time now, except now for you it's $290 vs $350, you still saved money I don't get how It's not worth it?
Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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This was more of a gangbang situation. Lg got some, nvidia got some, and T-Mobile got a piece too. And if you're unfortunate enough to be screwed by wind they seem even more despicable still! Wind definitely deserves a 10.
Lg 8 for putting this particular modem on this particular phone.
Nvidia 4 for being present lol
T-mobile 5 for acting like this phone was the poop and then tossing it like a dirty diaper.
On the brighter side a lot of us are reaching the end of the line with this thing and if nothing else it's been a great learning experience. This phone is so picky about kernels and settings and charging that we've had to become super disciplined about how we treat our phone or else it burns your nightstand. Plus having witnessed the long and frustrating journey of many devs pushing this phone just a little further each time has definitely enlightened me on how hard these guys work for something we all profit from. Holy crap this post got long! My bad. Carry on.
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Initially wind tab would take 36 months to pay off, after the CRTC changed the rules all the providers have now switched to 24 months. Only customers who got the plan after the rule change get the 2 year tab, the rest have to complete the full 3 years
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Granted but he shouldn't really be complaining about the price of a phone he bought a year ago and using all this time, he should pay the price of when he started using it, not how much it's worth a year later, it's really just a selfish attitude