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[Q] Serious trouble with my Desire S

Hey guys,
I was on 2.3 Gingerbread with S-OFF and rooted (on sense 2.1). My aim is to get the new 3.0 sense (stock firmware without root etc).
So i decided to retrieve the stock FW unroot and flash RUU, so i can update OTA to the new sense.
The ROMs i found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
but i accidently flashed from RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1 to RUU_Saga_TMO_DE_1.30.111.1 with t-mobile branding.
now i tried to go back to stock europe ROM which i first had, but i am now on 1.30 and i think downgrading will brick my phone, am i right? I am still S-OFF and tried to flash the RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4 version but it also shows me, this:
current ROM: 1.30.111.1
new ROM: 1.28.401.1
what can i do to get my stock FW back and update to the new sense without downgrading or getting my phone bricked? i even would be able to give up my root, but is there any way?
now it shows this:
SAGA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-6.98.1002
RADIO-38.03.02.11_M
eMMC-boot
thanks for your help!
cheers,
swordlink

I appreciate that this isn't quite the question that you are asking, but, if you're S-OFF, I'm assuming that you also have CWM (clock work mod) recovery installed?
Why don't you simply flash one of the pre-rooted custom ROMS such as LBC.

ben_pyett said:
I appreciate that this isn't quite the question that you are asking, but, if you're S-OFF, I'm assuming that you also have CWM (clock work mod) recovery installed?
Why don't you simply flash one of the pre-rooted custom ROMS such as LBC.
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well i used to have it on my europe firmware as i had my device rooted and clockwork recovery installed, but as i updated to "TMO_DE_1.30.111.1", my recovery was set back to the default one from htc.. so i have no idea on how to flash back to 1.28
but thanks for helping me

ben_pyett said:
I appreciate that this isn't quite the question that
Why don't you simply flash one of the pre-rooted custom ROMS such as LBC.
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because if i am prerooted, i cannot update via OTA, right?

swordlink said:
because if i am prerooted, i cannot update via OTA, right?
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yup.at least i didnt manage to get updates...if u root your phone once u can flash some of latest prerooted shipped roms .Check my signature

Adidas108 said:
yup.at least i didnt manage to get updates...if u root your phone once u can flash some of latest prerooted shipped roms .Check my signature
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but if i flash this: RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed_prerooted
i would downgrade my phone.. and brick it
regarding my situation, how can i totally go back to any stock europe firmware? please someone help me out!

Sense 3.0 isn't coming out officially for the desire s so you would need to root your phone to install it.

swordlink said:
but if i flash this: RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4_Radio_20.28I.30.085 AU_3805.06.02.03_M_release_199410_signed_prerooted
i would downgrade my phone.. and brick it
regarding my situation, how can i totally go back to any stock europe firmware? please someone help me out!
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im not an expert but i dont think downgrading your phone will brick it
but you should wait for another reply before you try
but look at this
can you give us more info? like your hboot version & if you are s-off after the update?

ste1164 said:
Sense 3.0 isn't coming out officially for the desire s so you would need to root your phone to install it.
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wtf? i thought it is out already? i even was asked to update my desire s via OTA?

swordlink said:
because if i am prerooted, i cannot update via OTA, right?
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I believe that that is the case, although IMO OTA's aren't anything great..and aren't that frequent either!
Usually custom ROMs have many additional fixes included as well as extra functionality on top of the stock and it doesn't take very long after an OTA is released that it's usually incorporated within the next custom release.
You should be able to use GingerBreak to get root and then you'll be able to download ROM Manager free from the market and this should enable you to easily install CWM.
Now you have CWM installed you are able to download any custom ROM of your choice.

swordlink said:
Hey guys,
I was on 2.3 Gingerbread with S-OFF and rooted (on sense 2.1). My aim is to get the new 3.0 sense (stock firmware without root etc).
So i decided to retrieve the stock FW unroot and flash RUU, so i can update OTA to the new sense.
The ROMs i found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
but i accidently flashed from RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1 to RUU_Saga_TMO_DE_1.30.111.1 with t-mobile branding.
now i tried to go back to stock europe ROM which i first had, but i am now on 1.30 and i think downgrading will brick my phone, am i right? I am still S-OFF and tried to flash the RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.47.401.4 version but it also shows me, this:
current ROM: 1.30.111.1
new ROM: 1.28.401.1
what can i do to get my stock FW back and update to the new sense without downgrading or getting my phone bricked? i even would be able to give up my root, but is there any way?
thanks for your help!
cheers,
swordlink
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push this via adb, you'll then be able to RUU your rom.

ben_pyett said:
I believe that that is the case, although IMO OTA's aren't anything great..and aren't that frequent either!
Usually custom ROMs have many additional fixes included as well as extra functionality on top of the stock and it doesn't take very long after an OTA is released that it's usually incorporated within the next custom release.
You should be able to use GingerBreak to get root and then you'll be able to download ROM Manager free from the market and this should enable you to easily install CWM. From there you'll be able to install a custom of your choice.
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DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES INSTALL A ROM USING ROM MANAGER!!!!!!
It causes more problems than its worth!!!

InfernalByte said:
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES INSTALL A ROM USING ROM MANAGER!!!!!!
It causes more problems than its worth!!!
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You misunderstood what I was saying, perhaps it was slightly ambiguous...(I'll amend it)
I was suggesting that he install CWM from ROMManager and from that position install any custom from the Desire S dev forum.

ben_pyett said:
You misunderstood what I was saying, perhaps it was slightly ambiguous...(I'll amend it)
I was suggesting that he install CWM from ROMManager and from that position install any custom from the Desire S dev forum.
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OK. Let me make myself clear about rom manager. Do not use it for ANYTHING! AT ALL!!!! DELETE IT. Go on... now, yes, I mean you.
No pudding until that's all been deleted.

How come he thinks downgrading would brick his Phone!?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App

ehm. guys, i only want a stock firmware LOL
now is there a way, or not?
SAGA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-6.98.1002
RADIO-38.03.02.11_M
eMMC-boot

InfernalByte said:
OK. Let me make myself clear about rom manager. Do not use it for ANYTHING! AT ALL!!!! DELETE IT. Go on... now, yes, I mean you.
No pudding until that's all been deleted.
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You'll need to justify this statement, it's a useful application that enables you to manage your backups and now that LBC's ROM has enabled ROM Manager support within the latest release (v0.5.4) it's become a vital to enable future updates.

ben_pyett said:
You'll need to justify this statement, it's a useful application that enables you to manage your backups and now that LBC's ROM has enabled ROM Manager support within the latest release (v0.5.4) it's become a vital to enable future updates.
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offtopic, dude
btw i did a backup of my system as i was on the rooted device..
so.. am i able to get my europe firmware back or not and if yes: how? simply the only question

swordlink said:
offtopic, dude
btw i did a backup of my system as i was on the rooted device..
so.. am i able to get my europe firmware back or not and if yes: how? simply the only question
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Fair call.... sorry..
To do a restore I believe that you'll need to be root, so you could re-root your device using Gingerbreak and then restore your backup using dare i say it ROM Manager.

neomis said:
How come he thinks downgrading would brick his Phone!?
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App
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because i read something like this? am i wrong?
i thought it's the same with iPhone, Nokia etc..?

S-off Hboot 2.00.002?

If it possilbe? I cant find any gudes and cant use the revolution one weither=?

andoridkiller said:
If it possilbe? I cant find any gudes and cant use the revolution one weither=?
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As of the moment, revolutionary does not support the new hboot. The only way to s-off again is to downgrade.

Or you are able to unlock but will remain s-on by using htcdev site, which elk enable you to flash custom ROM and recovery but you must be aware that boot needs to flashed via fast boot
Swyped from my Desire S using XDA Premium

andoridkiller said:
If it possilbe? I cant find any gudes and cant use the revolution one weither=?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314349
here you can see a procedure how to obtain superuser access to an S-ON mobile, and flash recovery and of course flash an unrooted custom ROM. I personally used the MIUI v1.11.11

I have a Desire S fully unlocked in the UK, looking to put android 2.3.7 on it. It has the latest version 2.3.5 on with hboot 2.00.002.
Has anyone achieved this yet?? If so how??
Thanks in advance!

Android 2.3.7 is available via CM7 or MIUI, not sense

Apologies but I don't really know what that means. I am wanting to remove all of the HTC software and run just android.

ok, I understand now, what I need to be able to do is S-OFF 2.00.0002?

splinter1234 said:
ok, I understand now, what I need to be able to do is S-OFF 2.00.0002?
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You can gain full S-OFF on HBOOT 2.00.0002. You can unlock the bootloader at http://htcdev which will allow you to flash a custom recovery and install CM7.1 ROM which is based on GB 2.3.7.

Thanks very much
Should I follow these instructions??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314349&page=4
At which stage can I install CM7.1 ROM
Thanks for your help!

My s-on was taken down in a service by xtc clip. This is the simplest way...

Install through ROM Manager after all the steps?

better install 4ext recovery, how to is somewhere in this forum. Than you can convert your partitions to 4ext fs, what is suported by most of roms. 4ext works better for me. to manage your roms download 4ext updater from market.

splinter1234 said:
Thanks very much
Should I follow these instructions??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314349&page=4
At which stage can I install CM7.1 ROM
Thanks for your help!
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Yes that is the procedure to follow. You can install CM 7.1 ROM after you have finished step 7, but I would go ahead and finish step 8 also. That will root your existing ROM so when you make a 'nandroid' backup before you flash CM 7.1, you will have a fully rooted backup of your system.

Can 4EXT flash any ROM (eg. Gingerbread)?

I've just recently done S-OFF and installed 4EXT recovery plus the latest ARHD ROM.
However I'd like to revert back to a Gingerbread ROM. Preferably a custom one.
Just wondering if 4EXT is capable of flashing any ROM or is it only compatible with the newer ROMS like ICS etc?
Could somebody also recommend a good Gingerbread ROM if possible?
Thanks.

Kurdt Kobain said:
I've just recently done S-OFF and installed 4EXT recovery plus the latest ARHD ROM.
However I'd like to revert back to a Gingerbread ROM. Preferably a custom one.
Just wondering if 4EXT is capable of flashing any ROM or is it only compatible with the newer ROMS like ICS etc?
Could somebody also recommend a good Gingerbread ROM if possible?
Thanks.
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Using Jelly Bean here so no knowledge on the latest GB ROMs.
The issue is to get compatible Firmware for the chosen ROM.
I'm a CWM user but understand that EXT4 can do all that's needed.
So What is your Radio/HBOOT version ??

Kurdt Kobain said:
I've just recently done S-OFF and installed 4EXT recovery plus the latest ARHD ROM.
However I'd like to revert back to a Gingerbread ROM. Preferably a custom one.
Just wondering if 4EXT is capable of flashing any ROM or is it only compatible with the newer ROMS like ICS etc?
Could somebody also recommend a good Gingerbread ROM if possible?
Thanks.
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Hi,
4EXT should be fine to install GB ROMS.
You will firstly need to downgrade your firmware.
1.17 is HERE
ARHD GB 3.6.13 is HERE

malybru said:
Hi,
4EXT should be fine to install GB ROMS.
You will firstly need to downgrade your firmware.
1.17 is HERE
ARHD GB 3.6.13 is HERE
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It's not working. As soon as I enter the bootloader with these two files on my SD card I get the
error message "Incorrect ID - Update Failed" before I even attempt to do anything. It won't even let me enter the recovery unless I remove them.
I'm on Juopunutbear 1.27 currently. Do I have to downgrade the bootloader as well? And if so how? I'm a bit stuck.

Kurdt Kobain said:
It's not working. As soon as I enter the bootloader with these two files on my SD card I get the
error message "Incorrect ID - Update Failed" before I even attempt to do anything. It won't even let me enter the recovery unless I remove them.
I'm on Juopunutbear 1.27 currently. Do I have to downgrade the bootloader as well? And if so how? I'm a bit stuck.
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Use the 1.17 universal firmware.. From kohr-ah firmware thread.. It's in sensation development section
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium

[Q] Stock HBoot to replace JB HBoot

Hello all,
So finally, I have managed to S-OFF my phone using JuonoputBear (I never get this spelling right!). Downloaded the latest version for Ubuntu and can't believe I only did the wire trick once and it was done.
But anynow, to my surprise, the JB tool went on installing the JB hboot itself. Initially I thought it would ask me to install it or not and I would refuse it but... it didn't even give me the option. So now I am stuck with the JB hboot which I dont want.
So the questions is, is there any way I can revert back to the stock hboot?
Thanks guys, all your help made it possible for me to S-OFF my phone.
Regards

just to know that with patched hboot you are fully unlocked and you can use all fastboot commands
i don't find a reason to return to official hboot

rzr86 said:
just to know that with patched hboot you are fully unlocked and you can use all fastboot commands
i don't find a reason to return to official hboot
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Thanks for the reply. The reason I wanted to go back to stock hboot was that its highly unlikely that I would be using those extra fastboot commands. Besides, I dont like the Juoponutbear logo on top of the hboot.
Also, now that I am S-OFF, I am kind of gone sensitive to installing any ROM. I intend to install Android Revolution HD ROM but I dont want to flash anything wrong on my device like Radio etc. I only want to flash whats need to run that new custom ROM. I guess that doesn't include the kernel as I already have ICS stock ROM.
Can anyone point me to the right direction? Where I can find the steps to install custom ROM without any risk of flashing something wrong?
Thanks.

Jeanz Sensation said:
Thanks for the reply. The reason I wanted to go back to stock hboot was that its highly unlikely that I would be using those extra fastboot commands. Besides, I dont like the Juoponutbear logo on top of the hboot.
Also, now that I am S-OFF, I am kind of gone sensitive to installing any ROM. I intend to install Android Revolution HD ROM but I dont want to flash anything wrong on my device like Radio etc. I only want to flash whats need to run that new custom ROM. I guess that doesn't include the kernel as I already have ICS stock ROM.
Can anyone point me to the right direction? Where I can find the steps to install custom ROM without any risk of flashing something wrong?
Thanks.
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Hi,
There is no way you can "Accidently" install a radio.
You are not in bootloader for any length of time normally,so ,it should not matter what is written at the top.
That is just the way Juoponutbear operates and leaves it's mark.
It is the only way to s-off for you,so ,you are stuck with it.
Unless you s-on again.
As for flashing ROMS,put it on the root of your sd card,choose zip,install zip.
That's it.
EDIT:
Someone correct me if I am wrong.
If you flash Kohr-Ah's Universal 3.33 firmware,does it say Universal at the top?

malybru said:
As for flashing ROMS,put it on the root of your sd card,choose zip,install zip.
That's it.
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Is that all? I thought that once you have flashed the zip package, you have to extract the "boot.img" from that zip package of the ROM and flash it separately?

Jeanz Sensation said:
Is that all? I thought that once you have flashed the zip package, you have to extract the "boot.img" from that zip package of the ROM and flash it separately?
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Hi,
That is the beauty of s-off.
No separate flashing.

malybru said:
Hi,
That is the beauty of s-off.
No separate flashing.
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Ahh I get it now. Thanks mate.

malybru said:
Hi,
There is no way you can "Accidently" install a radio.
You are not in bootloader for any length of time normally,so ,it should not matter what is written at the top.
That is just the way Juoponutbear operates and leaves it's mark.
It is the only way to s-off for you,so ,you are stuck with it.
Unless you s-on again.
As for flashing ROMS,put it on the root of your sd card,choose zip,install zip.
That's it.
EDIT:
Someone correct me if I am wrong.
If you flash Kohr-Ah's Universal 3.33 firmware,does it say Universal at the top?
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if i remember well last time kohr-ah said that it it says firmware 3.33(i am not sure)

malybru said:
Hi,
That is the beauty of s-off.
No separate flashing.
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Sorry I had to come back on this one. I was checking the Android Rev. HD thread and in the download section it said it is necessary to flash new firmware package before flashing this ROM/ And the firmware package also contains radio flashing.
Since I am on Stock ICS at the moment and my firmware is 3.32. Do I still need to flash my firmware?

Jeanz Sensation said:
Sorry I had to come back on this one. I was checking the Android Rev. HD thread and in the download section it said it is necessary to flash new firmware package before flashing this ROM/ And the firmware package also contains radio flashing.
Since I am on Stock ICS at the moment and my firmware is 3.32. Do I still need to flash my firmware?
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it is not necessary
the rom will boot with that firmware too:good:

[HOW TO] Flash phone with HBOOT 1.27 and Android 4.0.3

Hi All,
I have been reading various guides on how to flash my HTC Sensation it is currently running the stock ICS 4.0.3 and using HBOOT 1.27. I would like to update it to Jellybean and I have been looking at the CyanogenMod for this or if someone else has any other suggestions. With the current software my phone is running really slow and lags.
I am really confused on what the best procedure is and how to do it, I have found this utility but if someone could give me some hints to where I start.
I think I may have got the drift of some things:
1. Go to HTCDEV and unlock the bootloader
2. Take S-OFF using JuopunutBear
3. Install 4EXT
4. Become SuperCID
5. Flash new Jellybean ROM
Options 1 and 2 seem OK but I am not sure how to proceed with the other steps and if it is the way I should be doing it and it is is all possible with my phone.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

fayraz said:
Hi All,
I have been reading various guides on how to flash my HTC Sensation it is currently running the stock ICS 4.0.3 and using HBOOT 1.27. I would like to update it to Jellybean and I have been looking at the CyanogenMod for this or if someone else has any other suggestions. With the current software my phone is running really slow and lags.
I am really confused on what the best procedure is and how to do it, I have found this utility but if someone could give me some hints to where I start.
I think I may have got the drift of some things:
1. Go to HTCDEV and unlock the bootloader
2. Take S-OFF using JuopunutBear
3. Install 4EXT
4. Become SuperCID
5. Flash new Jellybean ROM
Options 1 and 2 seem OK but I am not sure how to proceed with the other steps and if it is the way I should be doing it and it is is all possible with my phone.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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there is no need to do both steps 1 and 2
go can use either this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
or this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631
only with the second guide you can supercid

After looking at SuperCID is it really necessary? Or do you need to do this for custom ROMS. I know its for carrier specific ROMS but my phone is not branded.

fayraz said:
After looking at SuperCID is it really necessary? Or do you need to do this for custom ROMS. I know its for carrier specific ROMS but my phone is not branded.
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it is not necessary for custom roms
it is only useful for flashing any ruu.exe

fayraz said:
After looking at SuperCID is it really necessary? Or do you need to do this for custom ROMS. I know its for carrier specific ROMS but my phone is not branded.
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rzr86 said:
it is not necessary for custom roms
it is only useful for flashing any ruu.exe
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+1. Not to mention, if u are upgrading from ics to jb, there's no need for ruu. Your current firmware (3.32/3.33) will support jb. So you could flash jb even s-on.
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Happy to help.

I have Software Version 3.33.401.53 so I can just:
1. Unlock the boot loader
2. Flash a recovery using the all in one tool
3. Flash cyanmod 10
Is this correct?

fayraz said:
I have Software Version 3.33.401.53 so I can just:
1. Unlock the boot loader
2. Flash a recovery using the all in one tool
3. Flash cyanmod 10
Is this correct?
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Yes. Remember to use 4ext recovery with SmartFlash. See this.
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HAPPY TO HELP.

Thanks for all your help, I managed to flah Cyanogen 9 the stable version which is Android Version 4.0.4, when version 10 is stable or stops going nightly I will flash to that to get JellyBean unless there is a stable ROM anyone knows about.
Also I see that this ROM has ROM Manager installed and you can flash ClockwordMod Recovery is it worth doing that or shall I just stick to 4EXT?
And
If I was to flash another ROM I guess I just do it from 4EXT and will this wipe all my data and apps again?

fayraz said:
Thanks for all your help, I managed to flah Cyanogen 9 the stable version which is Android Version 4.0.4, when version 10 is stable or stops going nightly I will flash to that to get JellyBean unless there is a stable ROM anyone knows about.
Also I see that this ROM has ROM Manager installed and you can flash ClockwordMod Recovery is it worth doing that or shall I just stick to 4EXT?
And
If I was to flash another ROM I guess I just do it from 4EXT and will this wipe all my data and apps again?
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You are correct. Flash Roms from 4ext. You can back up your apps and the data with titanium backup.
By the way, albino's cyanogenmod 10.1 is labeled as stable. It has really good performance and has pretty much no bugs.
Sent from my Ouya

fayraz said:
Thanks for all your help, I managed to flah Cyanogen 9 the stable version which is Android Version 4.0.4, when version 10 is stable or stops going nightly I will flash to that to get JellyBean unless there is a stable ROM anyone knows about.
Also I see that this ROM has ROM Manager installed and you can flash ClockwordMod Recovery is it worth doing that or shall I just stick to 4EXT?
And
If I was to flash another ROM I guess I just do it from 4EXT and will this wipe all my data and apps again?
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AndroidSupporter318 said:
By the way, albino's cyanogenmod 10.1 is labeled as stable. It has really good performance and has pretty much no bugs.
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+1.
Also ,since you are s-on, stick to 4ext recovery.

Far_SighT said:
+1.
Also ,since you are s-on, stick to 4ext recovery.
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I'll stick to 4EXT and I guess when I want to flash new ROMs I should always select smart flash because I have S-ON?

fayraz said:
I'll stick to 4EXT and I guess when I want to flash new ROMs I should always select smart flash because I have S-ON?
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yes or you can install 4ext updater and from settings choose smartflash on(permanent smartflash)
check from this guide on how to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861 (step 5)

fayraz said:
I'll stick to 4EXT and I guess when I want to flash new ROMs I should always select smart flash because I have S-ON?
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rzr86 said:
yes or you can install 4ext updater and from settings choose smartflash on(permanent smartflash)
check from this guide on how to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861 (step 5)
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SmartFlash is, in a way, the easiest way to flash roms s-on.
ALTERNATIVELY, to flash roms s-on (without smartflash), say with some other recovery,
Extract boot.img from whichever rom you want to flash. It typically resides in the kernel folder.
Enter fastboot mode and use:
Code:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
.
Watch this.
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Happy to help.