[Q] Verizon Encrypted Bootloader - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

I'm currently an owner of Gnex running Jellybean. I don't post much, but I pre ordered GSIII. As a whole I feel it's a good phone. I just wonder how many people will return their phone and keep what they have. This is the only way to let Verizon know that we are not happy. As much as we are complaining on these forums as long as we keep the phones Verizon wins.

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dpeppe01 said:
I'm currently an owner of Gnex running Jellybean. I don't post much, but I pre ordered GSIII. As a whole I feel it's a good phone. I just wonder how many people will return their phone and keep what they have. This is the only way to let Verizon know that we are not happy. As much as we are complaining on these forums as long as we keep the phones Verizon wins.
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They charged me on Friday ... I called them Saturday Morning at 6am ... Last night they returned my money ....

Question: Should we return the phones as a form of protest to the "locked" bootloader?

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BestBuy still selling on the 17th!!

The best buy store i pre ordered at said it will still be selling on the 17th!! An they will not be selling in the verizon store same day!!!!
BestBuy has an exclusive on launch date!
This from the Verizon Rep at BestBuy this morning just a few minutes ago. Agao the tore i went to hd them in stock!!!! I played with one.
BigBonkers said:
This from the Verizon Rep at BestBuy this morning just a few minutes ago. Agao the tore i went to hd them in stock!!!! I played with one.
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Thanks for the tip. Was the screen plastic?
No its Glass! I would never consider a plastic screen.
Sense seemed to fly. best looking phone ive ever played with. But in the end if the 4g is not $30 unlimited like i was told i will be skipping this and getting an iPhone. The only that makes me getting android worth it is unlimited 4g.
I still think iphone is the most complete phone. But i will be getting the thunderbolt just for the 4g.
BigBonkers said:
No its Glass! I would never consider a plastic screen.
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Good to know its glass. Good sign.
Called the local Best Buy and they are telling me they do not have a release date set. Checked more into verizon and was told that HTC has posted an information block on the phone till march 31st. Found on engadget an article about a picture block and because of posting rules I am not allowed to post the link. Horray for spam control rules.
I am hoping next week would be the time but verizon and Best Buy are reporting that they do not have a release date and that "soon" is all they know. Was told soon for verizon could be a week to 6 weeks.
All speculation, trust no one
Only when there is a public anouncement is when we will truly know
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Would be nice if they would give details outside of "we will be selling this phone but, we won't tell you the release date". They should have announced it's release along with the date.
ramodil said:
Would be nice if they would give details outside of "we will be selling this phone but, we won't tell you the release date". They should have announced it's release along with the date.
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I agree, maybe they are waiting to see if its worth selling the 14th/17th because of a dud in iphone sales
Or is the iphone is a hit (which it is not) then they would post pone the TB
all speculation though
one thing i think is funny that the Verizon Iphone is becoming a dud. most people who wanted a iphone already switched to ATT so whats the big deal about getting wht someone already had for awhile
I think if you're going to offer pre-order(Best Buy), then you'd better have a hard launch date. Offering pre-orders without one is a poor business practice.
Oh great more rumors about launch dates...
bmcclure937 said:
Oh great more rumors about launch dates...
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I agree. No offense to the OP but we need to stop making these threads. Its just going to be harder to find information in the General thread when the device is released. Having 20 release date threads is kinda pointless.
Wait till its released, the development section is going to be flooded with requests for roms
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I agree with you on the multiple threads , but I doubt if anyone will be in the dark the day the phone is released.
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superchilpil said:
Wait till its released, the development section is going to be flooded with requests for roms
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This. For certain.
BigBonkers said:
I still think iphone is the most complete phone. But i will be getting the thunderbolt just for the 4g.
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No flames for this comment yet?!?!
The iPhone is far from complete friend. It may be pretty and polished... and what it does, it does well, but complete isn't a word I'd use. Imagine using your phone all the time with your app drawer open and no access to your notification bar pull-down... there you go, an iPhone OS...
Guys I just prefer the iphone, but am still getting the thunderbolt because of the 4G.
And also as i stated before the bestbuy store i preordered at had them in stock a whole closet full!!! And will sell to me on that date.
BigBonkers said:
Guys I just prefer the iphone, but am still getting the thunderbolt because of the 4G.
And also as i stated before the bestbuy store i preordered at had them in stock a whole closet full!!! And will sell to me on that date.
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Every single BB employee that has posted on the forums has said none of the stores have gotten any stock in at all yet. Also why in the world would BB release the phone on the 17th? That is a Thursday and no one has ever heard that date mentioned by any of the sources out there. It has always been either the 14th or the 24th, the date makes no sense.
Hmm every BB employee? Wow thats amazing!
Funny in these forums ive posted the STORE LOCATION, CITY AND STATE.
But i guess your right.
ska.t73 said:
Every single BB employee that has posted on the forums has said none of the stores have gotten any stock in at all yet. Also why in the world would BB release the phone on the 17th? That is a Thursday and no one has ever heard that date mentioned by any of the sources out there. It has always been either the 14th or the 24th, the date makes no sense.
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The 17th is only relevant due to Verizons habit of releasing on Thursdays. Highly unlikely that that's the date. IMO if it were the 14th, we clearly would've heard officially about it by now. If it were the 17th, same thing. 24th...well I think we need to heard about it sometime next week, sooner rather than later for that to be plausible. I just don't see it being released without some sort of ad campaign prior. Until I see ad's I am being pessimistic.
You know what im changing my tune , you right. Its not out till its out. Theres no point sweating it. If i get it when i assume im happy if not....oh well.

Funny thing happened at AT&T store

Been into two stores now looking at the one x and when the rep asks how they can help me I tell them I am there to look at the one x and they don't say another word after that. It's too bad cause I really want to try and talk one of them into selling me one early. It almost seems like they brave no idea about them at all. I asked if they had a gray one I could look at and the girl today looked at me like I had three heads.
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Yeah its pretty much the same here, hell most don't even know they have a demo model up, and it's funny how they keep telling me that's its not out yet
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Yeah, same thing here. I spotted the phone from across the store, and when the lady asked if she could help I told her I was here to look at the HOX, she ignored that and thought I was talking about the Beats radio that it was attached to.
My local store kept trying to lead me to the ifruit 4s display lol.
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I called two local AT&T stores this morning. One said they had a demo unit on the floor. The other said I could play with one if I came in.
I went to the store that said I could play with one and a sales rep handed me his. Said he had had it for a week. It was the white model. It was pretty dirty. I hope that isn't common.
I'll post my impression plus pics once I hit 8 posts. I'll be posting a link to where I wrote about the One X in a different forum.
Called my AT&T store this morning, they said they had it out on display. Went in tonight after school, and they guy said something about how it "wasn't released yet" and it had been "pulled by corporate" or something and they weren't allowed to have them out on display until the 6th. Shady as hell, and now I don't know if I want to pre-order and pick it up there, who knows what's going on with those idiots?
the manager at my local corp. store let me check it out then said "just pretend that you didn't see it yet"
blairh said:
I went to the store that said I could play with one and a sales rep handed me his. Said he had had it for a week. It was the white model. It was pretty dirty. I hope that isn't common.
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Some people just don't touch the phone with dirty hands and then never wipe off the phone... Lol. I've been one to text while eating pizza, I'll make sure not to do it with my HOX
They work on commission. They aren't going to help you on a product they can't sell yet.
homeboy at my store told me since my contract expires april 28th he can sell me a HOX on may 1st but i cant tell anyone ! lmao
vioalas said:
Some people just don't touch the phone with dirty hands and then never wipe off the phone... Lol. I've been one to text while eating pizza, I'll make sure not to do it with my HOX
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I like the white but worry that it will look like a white apple keyboard after a few weeks. Afraid it might start to turn yellow in the back.
At&t reps
I always hate it when I seem to know a lot more than the at&t sales reps. They are the ones selling it and should honestly know more than me! I not that big of a phone geek either.
I also don't understand how a few people got it early. I called two AT&T stores and both said they won't have any stock in until May 6. ):
slaughtercolors said:
I always hate it when I seem to know a lot more than the at&t sales reps. They are the ones selling it and should honestly know more than me! I not that big of a phone geek either.
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although i do read alot on phones, i understand where your coming from. you would think a saleman would have an answer to every question...or at least one. it truly is sad.
chaosjh said:
although i do read alot on phones, i understand where your coming from. you would think a saleman would have an answer to every question...or at least one. it truly is sad.
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Yeah most are clueless and its sad they dont even know that places like XDA exist. I am lucky that our local corp store manager does know XDA and is a regular poster here though I am not supposed to tell
I had the total opposite experience at the Rogers store last week. Told the guy I was looking for a One X and he's all "yeah, great phone bro. I know we got some in, just let me check."
Turns out there weren't any in when I walked into the store, but a shipment was actually delivered while the guy was looking. Now that's some good timing. I may have been the first one in Toronto to pick one up! (If anyone got one earlier than 1:30pm EST on April 20th, then I guess you beat me to it.)
I went into my local official AT&T store today to see if they had one on display and fortunately they did. It was set up playing MOG to display the Beats Audio speaker they are selling. The sales rep I dealt with knew what was up, he even knew the release date. We had a good chat about the phone and how nice it was. I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus right now, and I will miss stock Android but Sense 4 is really not too bad. I had 2 updates with AT&T burning a hole in my wallet so I went ahead and did the preorder. I know I could have saved $50 to get it elsewhere, but I have had some bad experiences in the past getting my unlimited data plan stripped off of my plan when I got a phone for cheap at Costco. Now that I have unlimited LTE I don't think I will have to worry about plan changes for a long time. I decided it was worth $50 to not have to go through the hassle I went through last year when I upgraded to an Inspire and spent a month trying to get my unlimited data put back on my plan. The only bad thing is that on the AT&T map I live about 4 miles out of LTE, but at least I work in an LTE area.
So now May 4th (or hopefully sooner) I will have the phone with my unlimited LTE attached sitting on my doorstep.

What is currently the best Verizon phone?

I've had my Razr since launch day and I'm getting tired of it. Not enough development to keep me interested. The only ROM that I'm interested in, has a broken download link, and has for weeks, so I'm stuck here.
I have had an upgrade due since March and have yet to use it.
I've been checking out reviews for the GSIII, and the GNEX, all of which are leading me to believe the GSIII is the superior device, although there are still problems of locked bootloaders.
Are there any decent phones out there without a locked bootloader? Are there any good phones out there that have had the bootloader unlocked? Whether it be by the Manufacturer, or a hacker/modder?
I don't want to spend over $200, so if you see any deals, feel free to send them my way.
AmazonWireless currently has the GNEX priced at $49.99 with the upgrade. I have yet to find the GSIII for cheap.
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Thanks in advance guys.

[Q] Will thee be a unlocked or AT&T Version?

Hays guys, thinking about buying a new phone I think this would make the perfect one but its only for sprint sadly. I heard romers that one would lunch on AT&T when the Razr HD lunches, but that article was from june and hvent hear anything sence. But by any chance do any of you know if theres going to be a unlocked version of this phone or a milestone 4?
I'm using my dell venue pro rite now. I love it to death but I have to have a side slider keyboard, keys on my VP are to small, and windows phone has no sliders in the near fucher . So I always wanted to droid, I fegure I can get one until a WP8 comes along. Im really hope this phnes comes to AT&T or unlocked. Thank alot guys! cheers
Yea, that article was pretty much just a rumor I think...
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone knows for sure - and those that do are probably not at liberty to talk until any official announcements, y'know?
Damn . Im going to email Sprint and ask them if they would sell a unlocked model that would work with AT&T. If not I'll just keep hoping that AT&T gets or or I'll wait for the milestone 4.
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Damn . Im going to email Sprint and ask them if they would sell a unlocked model that would work with AT&T. If not I'll just keep hoping that AT&T gets or or I'll wait for the milestone 4.
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Heh... Good luck with that. Let us know how it goes...
Even if the rep wants to, I don't see how they could - this is how the phone is made for Sprint. I seriously doubt they have some unlocked just lying around, y'know... just in case someone wants to buy one
I tryed to em them but they make it so you really cant unless you are a member with a spasefic complaint! I will just have to wait and pray it comes to AT&T or something better comes along. Any word on the milestone 4??
theherofromdoom said:
I tryed to em them but they make it so you really cant unless you are a member with a spasefic complaint! I will just have to wait and pray it comes to AT&T or something better comes along. Any word on the milestone 4??
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I don't know, but this really doesn't seem to relate to "Photon Q&A" anymoar. Please take the rumor mill elsewhere.

Help? Bought unlocked Samsung Note 9

Hi, sry if I posted my question in the wrong area but I just recieved my Samsung Note 9. Been without a phone for 2.5 wks. It was nothing... (ahem... bu****it!!!)
Im an AT&T customer (I dont pay for phone service) so I was hoping if I bought an unlocked phone I might be able to root my device even though Im an AT&T customer. For some reason soon as you say AT&T customer, its like you have some super Covid strain cause nobody will come near you. Lol
Anyways, I would just like to be able to root my device so I can run a few of my fav apps which require root/super user. Im scared to even turn my device on because Im afraid AT&T is gonna patch it soon as I do and I wont be able to root my phone. Can someone please just tell me how best to proceed. Sry, I have not searched the forum yet. Im just in a hurry to get my phone back on so i can feel whole again. Im headed over to the thread for my phone now and will update this thread soon as i find out what i need to do. In the meantime any help would be greatly appreciated. Big thanks to everyone at XDA for all the love & support you guys give to the community.
Thanks and have have a blessed day!
- TeeShark
Did you buy the international variant or the U.S. variant?
ShaDisNX255 said:
Did you buy the international variant or the U.S. variant?
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Hey sorry for the late response. Im guessing i got the US variant since it was for a Verizon or AT&T customer. Unfortunately, its a refurb and was DOA. So im sending it back today. Which phone would you buy on a $300 budget? The screen was scratched up pretty baf also so im glad it was dead out of the box. Is this something I should expect when buying a refurb. I assumed since i was paying close to market price for a Samsung Note 9 that it would be in better shape with no scratches or very few. This one was scratched up pretty good all the way around the edge of the screen.
I was also considering buying a brand new Samsung A71. Most sites online have the Google Pixel 4a listed as the top phone on a $300 budget. I just feel like Google is intrusive enough as it is already without owning a phone made by them but I hold the XDA community in high regard when it comes to cell phones, specially android variants so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and be a deciding factor in my purchase.
Again i just would like to be able to gain root/super_user permissions so i can run some of my fav apps that require root access. If im able to install some custom roms as well that would be fabulous but not necessarily a requirement. If ive learned anything at XDA its that AT&T customers are usually screwed when it comes to rooting phones, at least in the early stages of recently released cell phones.
Thanks again for the assistance guys... and gals (and those that don't identify with either sex these days.) When i was growing up, you either had a hole or pole and that determined your sex. Lol! Sorry to get political on you guys but it seems everyone gets triggered so easily these days.
TeeShark said:
Hey sorry for the late response. Im guessing i got the US variant since it was for a Verizon or AT&T customer. Unfortunately, its a refurb and was DOA. So im sending it back today. Which phone would you buy on a $300 budget? The screen was scratched up pretty baf also so im glad it was dead out of the box. Is this something I should expect when buying a refurb. I assumed since i was paying close to market price for a Samsung Note 9 that it would be in better shape with no scratches or very few. This one was scratched up pretty good all the way around the edge of the screen.
I was also considering buying a brand new Samsung A71. Most sites online have the Google Pixel 4a listed as the top phone on a $300 budget. I just feel like Google is intrusive enough as it is already without owning a phone made by them but I hold the XDA community in high regard when it comes to cell phones, specially android variants so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated and be a deciding factor in my purchase.
Again i just would like to be able to gain root/super_user permissions so i can run some of my fav apps that require root access. If im able to install some custom roms as well that would be fabulous but not necessarily a requirement. If ive learned anything at XDA its that AT&T customers are usually screwed when it comes to rooting phones, at least in the early stages of recently released cell phones.
Thanks again for the assistance guys... and gals (and those that don't identify with either sex these days.) When i was growing up, you either had a hole or pole and that determined your sex. Lol! Sorry to get political on you guys but it seems everyone gets triggered so easily these days.
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Lol that last is the best sentence I've ever read in my life xDDD
But anyway, there are a few things I should point out.
-> You should only buy Samsung phones (even budget ones) if you like OneUI. If you want a stock aosp ROM, then stay away from Samsung phones since they get the least amount of attention and get a Xiaomi instead. They're phones that have communities booming and offer good quality for the price
-> If you don't want AOSP and really enjoy OneUI, then avoid getting a Samsung phone that is meant for the U.S. market and get an international variant. All U.S. variant Samsung phones have their bootloader hard locked and you need to buy a token (extra money) to even be able to unlock the bootloader and root it. Keep in mind that SOME international variants have the Exynos chip so just FYI. Though some mid-rangers offer Snapdragon across the board (U.S. or International) but yeah just avoid U.S. variant phones if you want root.
-> Lastly, avoid the Galaxy A71, go for the A52 instead. The A52 is about the same price as the A71 (in some places you'll probably even find the A52 cheaper) and the A52 has higher refresh rate, water resistance, dual speakers, optical image stabilization and an SoC that is on par with the A71.
You can request through AT&T's tech support that they turn off OTAs on their end.
Yes, yes they can that.
Or use Package Disabler to kill it.
It's probably the best solution.

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