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I went out and bought a micro HDMI to HDMI cable at frys the other day. It shows the picture and all but the xoom lags like none other when I put it in. Even a short swipe of the screen makes it pop up the add new widgets, wallpapers and so on. I was wondering what could be the problem with it? Its a non-rooted wifi only xoom.
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I went out and bought a micro HDMI to HDMI cable at frys the other day. It shows the picture and all but the xoom lags like none other when I put it in. Even a short swipe of the screen makes it pop up the add new widgets, wallpapers and so on. I was wondering what could be the problem with it? Its a non-rooted wifi only xoom.
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Mine works great... maybe ur tv sux?
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i have similar problem with my HDMI cable. When ever I connect the xoom reboot it self work for few second then stop. After unplug and replug againsame cycle reboot.
Though this was working fine before! !!!!!
Mine works great with my LG set. The only thing when I plug it in the black bar at the bottom doubles in size on the xoom and doesn't reset after I unplug it. I have to reboot anyone have a fix?
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I picked up a the cord and it worked great.
The only issue I found was neither tv I tried it on could adjust overscan. On one tv the size adjustments were greyed out? and the other didn't respond to changes to picture size.
I will test this when I get my cable this week, should have by Tuesday.
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Does your TV have some sort of smoothing like running at 120Hz or 240 in some cases? If there's a "game" mode then usually that runs at 60Hz without a delay because it doesn't have to interpolate in-between frames.
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Does your TV have some sort of smoothing like running at 120Hz or 240 in some cases? If there's a "game" mode then usually that runs at 60Hz without a delay because it doesn't have to interpolate in-between frames.
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Confirmed this works just change your AV setting on your tv and find the one that works best.
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Confirmed this works just change your AV setting on your tv and find the one that works best.
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Glad that helped.
Well I tried again today and I found the reboot problem is ONLY with the Youtube, but not with any other applications ... can somebody confirm if they has issues watching Youtube through HDMI !
I am on my 1st warranty phone of the G2X and it was having overheating issues, i think i have solved that (I wasn't formating the /system in clockwordmod, so i think old files were conflicting and causing cpu time to be eaten and burn up my phone, now it's staying a good 31c while asleep and unplugged, but now i can't use the hdmi out on the TV, i can with my computer monitor but not my tv, on my brand new g2x, the one before i got this warranty one, the hdmi to my tv worked, but it was overheating...but most likely not becuase of the phone but because i was going from rom to rom incorrectly....i have only tried it with Ultimate G2x 1.0 ROM, I am probably going to switch to CM7 w/ faux123's new 0.1.7 kernel if alot of ppl say good things about the new battery reading changes. idk i just wanted to see if other people have HDMI issues with diff tv's or diff roms....i work by a radio shack so i'm going to try it on one of their tvs.
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I am on my 1st warranty phone of the G2X and it was having overheating issues, i think i have solved that (I wasn't formating the /system in clockwordmod, so i think old files were conflicting and causing cpu time to be eaten and burn up my phone, now it's staying a good 31c while asleep and unplugged, but now i can't use the hdmi out on the TV, i can with my computer monitor but not my tv, on my brand new g2x, the one before i got this warranty one, the hdmi to my tv worked, but it was overheating...but most likely not becuase of the phone but because i was going from rom to rom incorrectly....i have only tried it with Ultimate G2x 1.0 ROM, I am probably going to switch to CM7 w/ faux123's new 0.1.7 kernel if alot of ppl say good things about the new battery reading changes. idk i just wanted to see if other people have HDMI issues with diff tv's or diff roms....i work by a radio shack so i'm going to try it on one of their tvs.
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I have this same problem, it is a hardware problem caused by using an HDMI cord that caused a short. Lots of people are getting this due to using monoprice cords. Search g2x HDMI monoprice. Unfortunately it is a hardware problem that cannot be fixed, when you sent in your phone on warranty they probably sent you back a refurbished that was broken by someone else. You need to send it back ASAP and ask for new phone not a refurbished.
well if the output of the phone was burnt out, then it wouldn't work either way. Just make sure all the settings are correct. Your monitor is probably 1080p or better. Your TV?
There were some issues with settings and auto. There could be a number of issues at hand and/or it could just be the phone.
I would try another rom. CM7's works pretty well. There are no settings and AUTO is hardcoded.
I've played with the HDMI out with my monitor and while it works, sometimes I had to screw with the orientation, unplug/replug, toggle phone display on/off, etc.
Once the monitor detects the output, it is golden. But I think there is a period where the monitor looks for a signal and after that period, if nothing is found, it stops looking. Could be the same way with the TV.
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well if the output of the phone was burnt out, then it wouldn't work either way. Just make sure all the settings are correct. Your monitor is probably 1080p or better. Your TV?
There were some issues with settings and auto. There could be a number of issues at hand and/or it could just be the phone.
I would try another rom. CM7's works pretty well. There are no settings and AUTO is hardcoded.
I've played with the HDMI out with my monitor and while it works, sometimes I had to screw with the orientation, unplug/replug, toggle phone display on/off, etc.
Once the monitor detects the output, it is golden. But I think there is a period where the monitor looks for a signal and after that period, if nothing is found, it stops looking. Could be the same way with the TV.
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I would like to think that its something that could be fixed, but I have tried flashing multiple ROMs including a virgin stock froyo all with the same result.
My HDMI did work properly when I was using a short generic HDMI that I got with my accessory kit, but as soon as I plugged in the monoprice HDMI the battery level instantly dropped to 0% followed by the smell of burning electronics, now the HDMI out only works on a PC monitor but never a TV. I literally went to Sears and they let me plug it in to 15 different TVs and none of them worked. From what I have been reading in these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1057564
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-G2x/HDMI-crashing-phone/td-p/824403
It seems to be pretty common and no one has been able to get their HDMI to work properly after it fails.
What I would like is if there was some was of forcing HDMI on instead using the auto.
Is anyone having a problem with the hdmi signal cutting out on their g2x? i plug it in and i was watching a netflix movie, it would go black for about 2 seconds and then show again. Thought it might be a netflix problem till i tried youtube and also playing a movie off of my sdcard. The picture looks great and it seems to be working perfect accept for the screen going black. Its pluged into a50 inch plasma 1080p tv and im using eaglebloods gingerbread rom which doesnt have hmdi options in the settings is this an issue with that rom?
same.
I have the problem, its so annoying, only happens when mirroring hd video. Maybe its the cheap ebay cable im using? or the rom?
if you guys are using CM7 its a common issue since CM doesnt support HDMI output. thats why there isnt a setting of it, of course it still works with games and everything but the movie playing is what it has a problem with. hope this helps
Gary Key/ASUS:
I was hoping that you could come on here and address the Wifi/Bluetooth issues that the Infinity has...the same issues that the TFP and 300T also suffer from. ASUS has been quick to address some issues lately, such as the I/O problem, so I was hoping there could be some dialog about the progress or outlook for this issue too.
The issue I am talking about, just in case someone might not have heard, is the issue with the BT and Wifi where the Wifi connection degrades to nearly unusable, or drops out entirely, when you are connected and streaming data to a device via BT. Some examples of this would be playing Pandora and streaming to Bluetooth headphones, or even out to your Home Theatre receiver. When I do this, my internet connection drops from 24Mbps to 2.5Mbps, and then it trails off from there as I let Pandora/IheartRadio/Streaming Radio play...there are intermittent cutouts, the speed trails down to under 1Mbps, and then at some point completely shuts down the Wifi. Personally this is my biggest issue with this tablet, and it was the only reason I returned my TFP(3x), and it is especially frustrating given how lacking the stock speaker on the Infinity is...the tablet volume doesn't get 'loud', and the speaker is facing away from me.
So given the recent firmware update addressing and fixing some of the Infinity's issues, I was hoping you could update us about the progress or prognosis for this BT/Wifi issue...is this something that will ever be fixed, or is this something that Transformer 300T/Prime/Infinity owners need to accept??
My other question, which is more important IMO is...since I think I know the answer to the above question...is there any chance that you can have ASUS add support for USB BT dongles?? This was recently discussed in another thread, with someone questioning whether or not a USB BT dongle could be plugged into the keyboard USB port, and be used for the BT so that it is used instead of the internal BT, therefore bandaiding out of the issue and being able to use BT without having the Wifi dropout. I have tried it, and presently the dongle is not recognized, and I could not find any apps anywhere to get it to work...unfortunately. If I were able to get this to work...either internally or via dongle(sucks having to settle)...I would have ZERO issues with my Infinity, but as of right now this is still a huge issue for me and I am still contemplating returning it and waiting for something that works as it should.
I know you are a busy man, and I appreciate the work you do and how you personally address customers and there issues on here, and I am just respectfully asking you if you could revisit this issue...this time for the Infinity. And especially address the dongle workaround.
Thank you.
G
From what I read it is hardware issue.
wifi and BT sharing same antenna.
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From what I read it is hardware issue.
wifi and BT sharing same antenna.
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I have read the same, and given that the issues persist with the Prime 8 months after release, I don't expect it to be fixed...but would like to see the issue addressed a bit further.
But really the thread should have been titled something more like 'Attn: Gary K/ASUS: Please add USB BT Dongle support'...as that is the more important part of this thread, as I am fairly certain that if this could be fixed with the hardware 'as-is', it would already have been on the Prime and 300T. The thread is more of a request for dongle support...dongles are less than $5 on eBay, and I would be happy to plug one into my USB port when I want to stream via BT to headphones/stereo, if that is what I have to do to maintain my Wifi connection speed and avoid fallout.
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From what I read it is hardware issue.
wifi and BT sharing same antenna.
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Almost all devices have BT and wifi share an antenna.
I can confirm the WiFi issue.
My wifi goes from max (full blue) signal to a grey wifi symbol. When it does, I have to disconnect wifi and reconnect and it works again for some time.
I haven't used BT yet.
iPad 3's are affected by this problem as well.
I think it has something to do with Bluetooth and Wifi transmitting off the same 2.4GHz spectrum. Try adjusting your router settings as according to what these folks did to resolve their issue.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3813436?start=0&tstart=0
Lets hope Gary from Asus is also looking into the OTA issues that some of the TF700's are having. This OTA thing is something most stand tablet customers are not expecting nor would they be likely to find a site like XDA there at least some user solutions are available.
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iPad 3's are affected by this problem as well.
I think it has something to do with Bluetooth and Wifi transmitting off the same 2.4GHz spectrum. Try adjusting your router settings as according to what these folks did to resolve their issue.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3813436?start=0&tstart=0
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My wife's iPad3 has no issues with this but my infinity does. And we sit in the same room.
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Eroc162 said:
My wife's iPad3 has no issues with this but my infinity does. And we sit in the same room.
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Is your wife doing exactly what you're trying to do on your Infinity, that is stream video over wifi with the device while listening to the audio over paired Bluetooth?
How is your router setup at home? Are you broadcasting b/g/n?
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Is your wife doing exactly what you're trying to do on your Infinity, that is stream video over wifi with the device while listening to the audio over paired Bluetooth?
How is your router setup at home? Are you broadcasting b/g/n?
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I tried my infinity watching Netflix and listening to my jambox. Low resolution and choppy then stops. Then I took my wife's ipad3 and did the samething. Perfect. I have a Linksys E4200v2 with 9dbi antennas and I was 5 feet away from my router which since I called Comcast about my connection has improved to 32mbps. I set my wifi to 2.4ghz only, N only, 20-40mhz and wpa2 security. I sent the infinity back to B&H for a refund. Figured it was hardware problem. I will be buying another one but I do feel hesitant which isn't a good thing. I like the Infinity but I want to be able to watch and listen to music without choppy sound and resolution. For $600 that's what I want from my Infinity. I will try with the next one.
I tried channel 1,6 & 11 but I got better performance from auto
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I can't believe more people aren't concerned with this issue, esp given how inept the onboard speaker is.
I'm having the same problem and think it should be addressed too.
I found my bt dongles but I hope if they do come up with something that its a nice half moon shaped Bluetooth dongle that fits along side the dock because the one I have sticks out like a sore thumb
1/2 inch.
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I tried my infinity watching Netflix and listening to my jambox. Low resolution and choppy then stops. Then I took my wife's ipad3 and did the samething. Perfect. I have a Linksys E4200v2 with 9dbi antennas and I was 5 feet away from my router which since I called Comcast about my connection has improved to 32mbps. I set my wifi to 2.4ghz only, N only, 20-40mhz and wpa2 security. I sent the infinity back to B&H for a refund. Figured it was hardware problem. I will be buying another one but I do feel hesitant which isn't a good thing. I like the Infinity but I want to be able to watch and listen to music without choppy sound and resolution. For $600 that's what I want from my Infinity. I will try with the next one.
I tried channel 1,6 & 11 but I got better performance from auto
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Dude, I hear you loud and clear! I've been taking heat for months trying to just warn people about this but everyone who is in denial just comes back and says nothing is wrong. The people in denial will just tell you their tablet is perfect and everything plays perfect. Just before, sitting outside trying to watch some old TV shows on Netflix and couldn't get 10 seconds of clear video when using a small external BT speaker. MAN that is just frustrating. And YES, my ipad does NOT have this issue. My connection speed goes from 24mb/s to 1.9mb/s. I may as well just turn the tablet off. All the Asus tablets you buy will have this same problem...so when you get your new one you can test it if you like but it will have the same issue. Don't wait to long to return it.
I own a Samsung galaxy nexus and a galaxy tab 10.1. Both of the devices playback videos without Bluetooth audio lag. My newly purchased Infinity has at least a 2 second audio delay. This issue needs to be addressed now. If Asus cannot come forward with a fix, I will have to return this tablet. I do not see a dongle as an acceptable fix when my other devices don't need one.
no problems
I just got my tab 3 days ago. I watched Netflix while using a Bluetooth stereo headset with no lag audio nice and synced and great video quality.
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I just got my tab 3 days ago. I watched Netflix while using a Bluetooth stereo headset with no lag audio nice and synced and great video quality.
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Your lucky you have one without the defect. Yes, the Wifi/Bluetooth fallout issue has been around since the original released prime. My original prime had the issue, regardless of any sort of antenna mod. Another prime I bought sometime later didn't have any Wifi/Bluetooth fallout issue. I have went through two TF700's atm. First, had the issue along with some screen defects. I returned it. Second, no screen defects and no WIFI/Bluetooth fallout issue. My personal judgement is that its not and issue that can be fixed via any sort of software/firmware fix. I believe it is hardware. Something to do with the quality of chips they are using or something else (my guess). Asus has not come clean on the issue and I don't think they ever will. My advice would be to return the tablet and try another. GL
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I just got my tab 3 days ago. I watched Netflix while using a Bluetooth stereo headset with no lag audio nice and synced and great video quality.
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Ditto. I am streaming Netflix right now to my LG bluetooth headphones. Zero lag and zero dropout. I was not able to do this with the Prime.
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So, I'm guessing you guys can watch YouTube without audio lag too? Looks like mine is going back.
Interesting. I just tried it. Youtube lagged considerably. Audio and video were not in sync. Went back to Netflix - watching Jim Gaffigan stand-up comedy and audio and video were perfectly in sync.
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am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
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am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
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I went from a Galaxy nexus to an N5 and a lot of stuff broke. My voice dialer for one and wifi is wonky for another. Wireless charging heats up the battery so much I've quit using it.
I really like the g2 and thought about returning the N5 and getting one. Only problem is that when the G2 gets kitkat all of the problems I'm having may very well come back. I hope that isn't the case with Miracast as well although LG will probably do better testing.
Good luck with Miracast. Sorry I don't have a way to test it for you.
adiliyo said:
am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
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I tried it on my friend's LG TV and my own Samsung and neither would get very far - hope it's a simple software bug
What TV you guys using for miracast... My LG TV says wireless display but nothing about miracast
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Miracast wireless Display
Same issue no connection. N4&N7 A 4.3 work just fine using an adaptor on sony TV
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Same issue no connection. N4&N7 A 4.3 work just fine using an adaptor on sony TV
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so the n4 and n7 on 4.3 work okay but your n5 on 4.4 doesn't?
if so it makes me feel a little better than it's just a software issue that (hopefully) is cleared up soon in an update
Maybe. Both the N5 and 4.4 are different from n4 and 4.3. could be a HW issue. Likely a SW problem.
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Same issue no connection. N4&N7 A 4.3 work just fine using an adaptor on sony TV
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I think there's a little confusion here - I understood this to mean:
You have the same problem with wireless connectivity - this is the same as I have noticed that with my N5 and my friends N4, neither of us could connect
With a cable the N4 and N7 work ok - I would expect this to be the case anyway, although I can't test my N5 with a cable as I don't have the USB to HDMI adapter (only one for my old GNex which was MHL which isn't compatible).
i feel like it's less of a hardware issue since miracast worked fine on my g2 and my note3 which are using the same SoC as the n5. maybe i'll try to flash 4.3 back onto my n7 and see if that connects.
is there any way to send this issue to google so they can be made aware of it?
and of course when i decide to do a logcat to see if i can see what's going on when it's trying to connect the phone (and tablet) decide not to see the tv at all for some reason.
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Taomyn said:
I think there's a little confusion here - I understood this to mean:
You have the same problem with wireless connectivity - this is the same as I have noticed that with my N5 and my friends N4, neither of us could connect
With a cable the N4 and N7 work ok - I would expect this to be the case anyway, although I can't test my N5 with a cable as I don't have the USB to HDMI adapter (only one for my old GNex which was MHL which isn't compatible).
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Not what I meant to say. The N4 and N7 work as a wireless display over WiFi as expected.
Peter
Tried to connect my N5 to Panasonic BluRay Model 230 - it finds the device, and then when you try to connect it just sits there, and sits there....
Honestly, where the hell is the V&V testing ?
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Not what I meant to say. The N4 and N7 work as a wireless display over WiFi as expected.
Peter
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good to know, so it seems to be a 4.4 issue more than a hardware issue.
maybe i'll downgrade my n7 today to test it out. (i was going to do it before but then the 4.4 update was officially released and of course i had to flash that first!)
i also emailed google support today to see what they have to say. it's frustrating not being able to use it in the car since i don't like the actual UI of my headunit.
adiliyo said:
am i the only one having issues getting my n5 to connect via miracast to my TV (Sony) and headunit (eonon) my g2 connected fine, but the n5 sits on connecting, on the car headunit it shows various steps to connecting and hangs on "waiting for rtsp"
i'm wondering if this is a 4.4 issue, or a n5 issue...
i'm bone stock on the n5 (no root, locked bootloader)
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Kind of off topic here, but how do you like the Eonon head unit? I was thinking about getting one of those for myself! I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
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good to know, so it seems to be a 4.4 issue more than a hardware issue.
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Could be the make and model of the TV as well. I have an LG LA6200 and my N5 connected to it in about 3 seconds. Watched some youtube just for fun. It works fine on mine.
Edit: Asylum OMNI and Faux latest.
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Could be the make and model of the TV as well. I have an LG LA6200 and my N5 connected to it in about 3 seconds. Watched some youtube just for fun. It works fine on mine.
Edit: Asylum OMNI and Faux latest.
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Hmm if a custom kernel might help it might be enough to get me to unlock the boot loader and have to set up everything again...
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Kind of off topic here, but how do you like the Eonon head unit? I was thinking about getting one of those for myself! I'd love to hear your opinion on it.
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it's pretty nice, it matches and fits in my GTI really well and looks very stock in terms of dials and finish, which i like.
i haven't had it long enough to comment on durability, but so far, i haven't had any issues with it. the UI is pretty responsive and quick (i loaded iGO maps onto it for navigation and it's much more responsive than the stock nav that i had before, i'm legitimately impressed with the navigation fluidity.
the radio reception is worse than stock, but the stock HU uses a dual antenna setup, so it's always going to get better reception, but personally i don't listen to the radio if i can help it. SD card mp3 playback is just as good as stock and sounds fine.
A2DP works fine, but you don't get any id3 metadata, which sucks, but it's fine, it connects to the phone very fast and hasn't dropped the connection once.
the dlna app crashes on my n5, i might try the iphone version on my 5s just to see how it works, but i get all my music from google play so i don't know if that will work anyways.
what i bought it for (miralink) i haven't gotten to work on my n5, but hopefully that will work soon and work well enough, because i would much rather use google maps and the play music app through the HU screen. those two things working even 90% of the time and i'll be a very happy camper.
overall for around $300 shipped to my door, it's really not a bad unit.
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it's pretty nice, it matches and fits in my GTI really well and looks very stock in terms of dials and finish, which i like.
i haven't had it long enough to comment on durability, but so far, i haven't had any issues with it. the UI is pretty responsive and quick (i loaded iGO maps onto it for navigation and it's much more responsive than the stock nav that i had before, i'm legitimately impressed with the navigation fluidity.
the radio reception is worse than stock, but the stock HU uses a dual antenna setup, so it's always going to get better reception, but personally i don't listen to the radio if i can help it. SD card mp3 playback is just as good as stock and sounds fine.
A2DP works fine, but you don't get any id3 metadata, which sucks, but it's fine, it connects to the phone very fast and hasn't dropped the connection once.
the dlna app crashes on my n5, i might try the iphone version on my 5s just to see how it works, but i get all my music from google play so i don't know if that will work anyways.
what i bought it for (miralink) i haven't gotten to work on my n5, but hopefully that will work soon and work well enough, because i would much rather use google maps and the play music app through the HU screen. those two things working even 90% of the time and i'll be a very happy camper.
overall for around $300 shipped to my door, it's really not a bad unit.
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Awesome man, thanks for the info!
Does miracast work then? I'm thinking of getting a dongle, or should I just use slimport
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Anyone else have a 2013 lg TV with miracast? I just got one and there is a 10-15 second lag. Its pretty much worthless.
Is there something I'm missing?
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i've tried it with faux's kernel and francos, both don't work for either of my devices. i emailed google and they replied with troubleshooting info but i haven't had a chance to reply to them and try what they have said (really basic stuff, i don't think it will help)
i refuse to go to crappy crappy touchwiz to make this work, but it makes me sad that i can't use my headunit like i want to.