I have a Galaxy Note and updated to ICS about a month ago....
Like many of you I also experienced fast battery drain, around 10% or more per hour, without usage. even more when I use it. 5 hours with moderate usage.
I am on unlimited data plan so 4G is always on.
I also tried fully charging the phone before going to bed at 11pm, woke up at 6am and battery already at 20+%, that's when I was sleeping, no use at all.
For a month, I have been charging my phone 2x a day!
I was very frustrated and wanted to go back to GB.
I was researching for weeks for the solution (also, checking for ICS updates almost everyday, waiting to see if Android had found a solution already), no one seemed to have a concrete solution, some suggest resetting, formatting etc.
These were so complicated for me I didn't even dream of doing them.
3 days ago, I accidentally switched off my 4G connection.
I didn't realize that the connection was off..
I was happy to see my battery charge was still at 98% after an hour, after 2 hours, light usage 95%.
"What's happening?"
Then I saw that my 4G was off.
Now, I was thinking 4G connection was the culprit... but I wanted to explore more and see if there was an app that could be causing this....
I checked my apps that used data and nothing was on, then I checked my sync settings, This is where I found out that I had so many accounts that had SYNC ON! Twitter, facebook, gmail, samsung e-mail etc.
So, I tried an experiment.... I stopped SYNCING everything.
It worked!
For one day, maybe 12hrs. (light usage with 4G connection on, just light usage, I checked my gmail by using the refresh button) 75% left on the battery!!! Wow!!
Then I thought "come on...gmail and android? Same owner/company right? I'm going to try to turn ON the GMAIL SYNC, I'm sure there won't be a problem"
I was right!!!
Now on my second day with 4G connection ON, Sync Gmail ON, medium usage, maybe 20-30min of phone calls, 30 or more texts, email and around 10 minutes of internet surfing.
9 hours unplugged and battery only at 70%!!!
I am very happy!
Oh, last night, I think only about 8-10% of battery was used (6 or 7 hours of sleep only 8-10% used....) nice!
For those who have not tried it yet... please try it... I hope it also works for you.
I just wanted to share my experience and hopefully help others that are, i'm sure, also already so frustrated with ICS.
I apologize for the long post.
Cheers!
so in other words disabling sync for apps that use networks poorly, over a high power useage radio.
its not really a solution, more of avoiding the problem . I know sync falls under android os in the data usage. which means to disable its bg data disables it all, so the real solution is to apply bg data restrictions to sync list as well to cover all ways of data access.
evidence of this is that Facebook ignores bg data restrictions( no big surprise there)
I think there is something wrong with my twitter app?
maybe I changed my password in my home page but did not change it in my twitter app and the app kept on trying and trying to log in but can't, maybe this caused the fast battery drain?
I didn't check it yet, maybe one of these days, but now, I'm happy... I really don't need to sync twitter all the time anyway.
Guys, check your accounts and sync... let us know what happens.
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Try this. My experience is on the AT&T Skyrocket, but from the research I've done both the Skyrocket and Note have the same problem. It's probably your charger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26733386&postcount=2412
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You have CPU Spy, so run this test to rule one thing out:
1) Charge your phone overnight.
2) When you wake up in the morning, pull it from the charger and reset the timers in CPU Spy.
3) Let the phone sit idle for a few minutes with the screen off.
4) Refresh the timers in CPU Spy.
If your phone spent significant time at 384 mhz during that idle time and none in Deep Sleep, it's your charger. If it's deep sleeping, it's not your charger (do you use more than one charger?) To further verify the problem, restart your phone, let it sit idle for a few minutes, and check CPU Spy to see if it went into deep sleep after you restarted.
I have a couple of chargers that cause my phone to never deep sleep after I charge with them. The thing that remedies it is restarting the phone or plugging in to a "working" charger. It's a know issue, there's a dedicated thread in the Note forum where someone pinpoints the issue for the Note.
I researched a lot about battery problems on this phone, so list more specifics (do you always use the same charger, charge to full, apps, widgets, etc) and I'd be glad to help. Also, when you take a screen shot of your battery life like you did, take one of your screen on time as well. Since that's your primary drain, it's a good indicator of how your battery life is. 8 hours of battery life sucks, but it's really good if 4 hours is with the screen on.
EDIT: Here's the link to a VERY informative thread on the issue for the Note: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1519084
And one more EDIT, with a workaround: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1516565
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And has worked for most Android versions.
wow.
the more stuff you have 'on' on your phone, the more battery it will use. hmmm. Do you leave GPS on when your inside a building also?
I think syncing should not be put on auto. Unless on necessary apps like email. And... email only? Facebook and what not social app, keeping track on website when you want to is prolly sufficient. Unnecessary background data mining will without doubt drain the battery.
I will PM all senior mods here on xda and suggest you for 'Elite Developer'...you deserved it like noone else
This is not development and should not be posted in a development forum.
Moved to general.
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Sure ,but glad it was revisited as it is still a good idea.So old news is still good news.lol
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Hi all,
My 6 days old Sensation (Vodafone contract UK) discharge a huge amount during Standby (200-350mA). I got the number via Battery Widget Pro 1.65. For the first few days I did deplete the battery fully before charging it to full. Today I have factory reset it to the original condition at around 4pm with 58% battery full. Now at 9pm, it is only 18%. During this time, I spent about 1 hour with the phone, the rest is standby. I set the widget to monitor with 1 minute interval and when looking at the log file, it can be seen that the phone consumed from 200-400mA during the standby time. Coming from HD2 with Android modded 3-8mA standby consumption, this is a huge huge dissapoinment!
Is this because of my battery or is this my phone? Should I ask for a replacement? What about you, did you see similar pattern?
Thanks,
Duong
duongnt said:
Hi all,
My 6 days old Sensation (Vodafone contract UK) discharge a huge amount during Standby (200-350mA). I got the number via Battery Widget Pro 1.65. For the first few days I did deplete the battery fully before charging it to full. Today I have factory reset it to the original condition at around 4pm with 58% battery full. Now at 9pm, it is only 18%. During this time, I spent about 1 hour with the phone, the rest is standby. I set the widget to monitor with 1 minute interval and when looking at the log file, it can be seen that the phone consumed from 200-400mA during the standby time. Coming from HD2 with Android modded 3-8mA standby consumption, this is a huge huge dissapoinment!
Is this because of my battery or is this my phone? Should I ask for a replacement? What about you, did you see similar pattern?
Thanks,
Duong
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Ditto!! So annoyed since I too am coming from HD2 where HyperDroid's consumption had dropped to a flat 2mA in standby. This is insane for a native android device. Not to mention the heating while playing games and most importantly, the front facing camera producing upside down image during fring video chats.. grrr!
Dunno what the cause OR solution is (besides switching over to a custom rom if and when the BL gets unlocked and people like pongster develop for this device)...
Overall, sexy device but disappointed with such major holes left unattended..
A little offtopic but was a battery related questions and did not wanna start a new thread so posting here -
Does anybody know of if there's any app which can get the battery percent to show in the top bar instead of the default indicator?
Thanks
EDIT: neva mind... found it... everybody's allwoed 1 dumb post once in a while
something is keeping your phone awake, you need to figure out what it is.
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something is keeping your phone awake, you need to figure out what it is.
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Any ideas on how I can do that? I tried using current widget but I guess because it's not rooted, current widget showed me a log of 0mA all throughout (yeah rite! hehe)
when I figure it out myself I'll let you know.
Current things I found that killed my battery over night: VTOK & Google Latitude
I went into Settings --> About Phone --> Battery --> Battery Use and checked, and it says display is eating most of my battery.
As far as mine, I get about 12 hours of battery life with standard usage, with the display eating most of the life, so if you're saying the screen is off, you might get different results...
over my 8h sleep battery dropped like 10%, nothing special (count in : wifi on, sync with gmail, weather) guys. new phone, fresh unoptimized kernel and radio. it'll get better. my prev phone (desire) was like sh*t at beginning in relating to its current spec rom ... and btw for checkin consuption : system panel (not lite), there is monitoring and u can see which apps running again if ya shoot them, check sync-s etc. many many thing to do, hard to tell in a single post
r3v0Lut10n said:
over my 8h sleep battery dropped like 10%, nothing special (count in : wifi on, sync with gmail, weather) guys. new phone, fresh unoptimized kernel and radio. it'll get better. my prev phone (desire) was like sh*t at beginning in relating to its current spec rom ... and btw for checkin consuption : system panel (not lite), there is monitoring and u can see which apps running again if ya shoot them, check sync-s etc. many many thing to do, hard to tell in a single post
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well it certainly sounds like a part of it is specimen issue.. here's my latest experience... last few times i have let it completely discharge and then charge back while the phone was off so i dont mess with it... once 100% charged, i switched the phone on and received a call.. a 25 minute conversation ate away 15% of my battery... LOL...
then, (now it gets better)... in 2 hrs of standby, the phone was at 60% which means it lost another 15% battery in 2 hrs of "standby".. im not sure if i can even call that state a "standby" anymore...
anyways... im wondering if its worth pinning hopes on rom development on our forum or should i just return this and go with something like nexus S which, O well, I can live with... atleast it has a 3300mA batterypack available... what's the use of kickass speeds and features if i have to use a phone like a desktop..
Hey, I have pretty bad battery drain during stand by as well I recommend trying to adjust the sync accounts, esp HTC hub and how often it updates that should improve it...I have a bunch of HTC widgets set up so im suspecting that being the reason for battery drain during stand by also adjust your email update setting accordingly. Every little bit helps!
Battery gauge stuck at 100%
Another one slightly off topic - but why start another battery thread.
It is the second day with my Sensation, and since I took the phone off the charger this morning, the battery gauge has been stuck at 100%. All other apps reading the battery status (e.g. Battery Widget) show the same number. I rebooted the phone multiple times, replaced the battery - nothing - permanent 100%. Has anyone had a similar experience? Did I get a perpetuum mobile ?
BTW the readings were fine yesterday.
JohannFaust said:
Another one slightly off topic - but why start another battery thread.
It is the second day with my Sensation, and since I took the phone off the charger this morning, the battery gauge has been stuck at 100%. All other apps reading the battery status (e.g. Battery Widget) show the same number. I rebooted the phone multiple times, replaced the battery - nothing - permanent 100%. Has anyone had a similar experience? Did I get a perpetuum mobile ?
BTW the readings were fine yesterday.
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Yes, the rating will go downhill pretty quick after that. Mine behaves in the same way.
jawang26 said:
Hey, I have pretty bad battery drain during stand by as well I recommend trying to adjust the sync accounts, esp HTC hub and how often it updates that should improve it...I have a bunch of HTC widgets set up so im suspecting that being the reason for battery drain during stand by also adjust your email update setting accordingly. Every little bit helps!
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Thanks for the pointer.. I will surely try that and see if it makes a difference..
That being said, call me crazy but it just occurs to me that HTC should be putting in some minimal efforts to check off basic quirks like battery consumption and QC. I mean all of us are spending a buttload of money on these devices year over year and then we rely on our devs here to give us basic functionality. Back in the days the reason people joined forums was to tweak devices.. Now it almost feels like we might as well expect only the hardware for the price we pay... disappointed!
Anywho...
I fully charged the phone before I went to bed last night. Eight hours later, the battery is at 10%. Is there something wrong with the battery?
Try using the Spare Parts app to see what's really using the battery in detail.
I can't get through half the day.
could you be more specific as to what you do on your phone? is your phone the international version or the USA T-mobile version.
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Tmobile, stock everything and I had the battery issue on my first HOS. I just got my replacement and Im running the same apps, same calls, same eveything as the first phone but i get a significant more battery life. The battery on the replacement HOS lasted me the entire day, but I still carry a charger around just incase.
Superbattery?
My TMo One S battery life recently went through the roof for some reason. I can only attribute it to one of the following or perhaps luck:
I've been charging it at end of day regardless of charge but I finally let the charge get below 25% -- I think it got to 15%. Then I powered it down and let it charge 12 hours overnight.
I disabled all Facebook related apps.
Other than that I can't recall anything I did recently that might account for my new super battery. But I'm at 1d 4h 25m on battery -- most of that on WiFi granted -- and still have 42% juice. I'll take it!
I always have my charger because I'm a twitter whore. I recommend disabling any bloat ware or duplicate app like Facebook For HTC or Twitter For HTC. And make sure you change settings for each app you use and don't use.
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Anyone use Juicedefender? My battery is excellent but if it can be improved then even better..
I'm using my phone very much, with Facebook and games and such, and I still get through the day without hesitate! I think it's wonderful
my battery life was poor on stock rom aswell. went trough a day only. had to charge every day. but now with noble v3 rom and being tiny bit more careful with use i have battery for 2 days
Battery life on this phone is better than most and I give it that. The only problem I have is the quick drop from 100% to 92% in a hour from little to light usage.
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I'm on stock Tmo US and have been getting amazing battery life. I took it off the charger when I left for work at 7:30am and I'm at 75% at 8:50pm.
That's with quite a bit of texting, pics taken at work, and 45 minutes of web browsing while I was on lunch. Granted, I don't do Facebook, so that may help.
This is the first phone I've been lazy about rooting because it's worked so well so far.
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I'm on stock Tmo US and have been getting amazing battery life. I took it off the charger when I left for work at 7:30am and I'm at 75% at 8:50pm.
That's with quite a bit of texting, pics taken at work, and 45 minutes of web browsing while I was on lunch. Granted, I don't do Facebook, so that may help.
This is the first phone I've been lazy about rooting because it's worked so well so far.
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I get decent battery life as well, but how do you manage only a 25% drop with over 12 hours of on time whic included a bunch of texting which keeps the screen on while u text and 45 min of browsing. Seems too good
I just got my One S less than a week ago. Love ICS. Battery life has been about 10 to 12 hours with medium amount of use. Facebook is disabled. I'm using active sync to sync to my exchange server and push frequency. (that continually goes out but that's for a different thread I guess).
I charge over night as I've done with my Dinc2, original Dinc, and all flavors of blackberry.
Last night I used a digital clock app while it was charging and in the morning at 8:30 where I unplugged, it had 100%. It's now just past 11 in the morning and with email, one short phone call and some light surfing, I'm already down to 62%.
I have noticed the phone is hot which means it's working hard to do something.
I have WiFi off and GPS off as well as location services. Should I return it for a new handset? Should I just go back to Verizon and get an iPhone?? Ugh.
ptweasel said:
I'm on stock Tmo US and have been getting amazing battery life. I took it off the charger when I left for work at 7:30am and I'm at 75% at 8:50pm.
That's with quite a bit of texting, pics taken at work, and 45 minutes of web browsing while I was on lunch. Granted, I don't do Facebook, so that may help.
This is the first phone I've been lazy about rooting because it's worked so well so far.
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What's your "screen on" time? Have you changed any connectivity settings, that may have increased your battery life a lot?
If the phone is hot then something is running in the background you should probably figure out what that is and disable it before you do anything. Now with exchange servers set up on your phone they do tend to eat some battery. That's universal though. Sounds like to do have a rogue app though. As for me this past Monday I took the phone off the charger at 430am and didn't have to return it to the charger til 11pm mostly because I was going to bed. I watched netflix, text, phone calls, Web surfed.... Love this device.
Posted with my HTC One S (US)
mikea3000 said:
I get decent battery life as well, but how do you manage only a 25% drop with over 12 hours of on time whic included a bunch of texting which keeps the screen on while u text and 45 min of browsing. Seems too good
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To you and the other person that asked, I think it really has to do with cell signal strength.
I posted those numbers after coming home from work where I have awesome cell coverage.
Today I've been home all day, and even though I'm on WiFi all day, my cell signal is horrible here. WiFi or not, it's still searching for a signal constantly so I've lost 30% in 6 hours with moderate use.
Now, as I said before, I don't use facebook or friendstream, but I think a lot of it is the radio constantly searching for a better signal.
I also think that either bad signal or just 3G takes a lot of battery.
I switched to 2G only just as an experiment, where I get a good signal almost constantly. This extended my battery life quite a lot. Where I usually had 10-20% left after a full day, I had 50% left with only 2G. I have also been using WiFi where available.
Can this be a software bug since there is such a big difference? I've noticed before that phone calls suck a lot of juice...
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I also think that either bad signal or just 3G takes a lot of battery.
I switched to 2G only just as an experiment, where I get a good signal almost constantly. This extended my battery life quite a lot. Where I usually had 10-20% left after a full day, I had 50% left with only 2G. I have also been using WiFi where available.
Can this be a software bug since there is such a big difference? I've noticed before that phone calls suck a lot of juice...
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2G is known to use much less battery life in every phone you check it.
Take a look at GSMarena on phone specifications in the bottom and you'll see the great difference.
BTW, looking on the battery test GSMArena did for the One S, it's quite in good place for the 3G calling and Video playback but uses a lot of battery on WEB browsing, see here
Might be that we the ones with low battery are more surfing than the others...
I get about 24 hours.
2 hour screen use. No FB or twitter, only gmail sync
Some text, 5mins of calls, <2% no signal
When idle i get battery drain of <10mA using:
http://www.3c71.com
Battery Monitor Widget. Logging current consumption is the only way to get to the bottom of the problem.
I'm talking with the author to get the kinks worked out of the One S logging.
*but* for some reasons something is keeping the phone awake at times. current drain is then 70-80mA constant. Not been able to find the culprit, but a reboot helps.
Hopefully this was useful.
I had the same issue-downloaded 2x battery from the market and it is much better. ( I have syncing with twitter, fb, gmail, mobile life all enabled)
I could barely get through the day. Seems the phone does a lot when syncing etc and this stops that, or at least limits it to the interval of your choice. every 10 I believe with the free version.
Try it-I am sure it will help. (I also turn the brightness down as I am mostly indoors-and put it on auto outside-but that is just me)
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I had the same issue-downloaded 2x battery from the market and it is much better. ( I have syncing with twitter, fb, gmail, mobile life all enabled)
I could barely get through the day. Seems the phone does a lot when syncing etc and this stops that, or at least limits it to the interval of your choice. every 10 I believe with the free version.
Try it-I am sure it will help. (I also turn the brightness down as I am mostly indoors-and put it on auto outside-but that is just me)
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Actually, due to the fact that every time I check the usage of battery screen is in top place (with Auto brightness all the time) and the fact I'm syncing with FB, Gmail, Exchange server and more, I guess the best thing to do is to lower Screen brightness...
SHi all, I'm on at&t, no rooting or anything, in NYC and ive been experiencing really odd battery drain in the past day. Ive had my phone for roughly a week now. Ive been searching these forums for battery saving tips since day one so yes, I turned off auto brightness, etc. This drain just happened while I'm on WiFi, Ive had 'mobile network' off since I woke up too. The only odd thing is that my mobile network signal is always in yellow, never in green. (im in an LTE area) could that probably be the reason for the battery drain, even though I turned 'mobile network' off?
I'm posting from my one x right now so I can't upload a pic of my screen. Probably just gonna upload to imgur and post the link here later..
Edit: can't add links lol.
Screen on time is 1h 8 minutes, taking 63%
Internet is 22 minutes, taking 20%
^ this was all taken just now, it's at 64% right now
Perhaps you could try a hard reset. I was having issues unrelated to yours with a brand new AT&T OX but a hard reset solved them. It's annoying that I had to do this considering I only owned the phone for 2 days, but at least it's working now.
I can go 16+ hours with WiFi on and no power-save features enabled so if a hard reset doesn't work, then maybe you should exchange it for a new one.
P.S.You can take a screenshot by holding the power+home buttons.
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SHi all, I'm on at&t, no rooting or anything, in NYC and ive been experiencing really odd battery drain in the past day. Ive had my phone for roughly a week now. Ive been searching these forums for battery saving tips since day one so yes, I turned off auto brightness, etc. This drain just happened while I'm on WiFi, Ive had 'mobile network' off since I woke up too. The only odd thing is that my mobile network signal is always in yellow, never in green. (im in an LTE area) could that probably be the reason for the battery drain, even though I turned 'mobile network' off?
I'm posting from my one x right now so I can't upload a pic of my screen. Probably just gonna upload to imgur and post the link here later..
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Screen on time is 1h 8 minutes, taking 63%
Internet is 22 minutes, taking 20%
^ this was all taken just now, it's at 64% right now
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Are you on stock?
What apps do you have installed.. There's probably some hidden rogue killing your battery
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There's probably some hidden rogue killing your battery
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install better battery stats to find out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
It's probably an app that you downloaded. I had a similar issue where my battery would be sapped very quickly. Turns out that an app called "Line" was actively keeping my phone in a wake status which killed my battery. If there is nothing physically wrong with the phone, you'll have to troubleshoot your apps one by one.
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It's probably an app that you downloaded. I had a similar issue where my battery would be sapped very quickly. Turns out that an app called "Line" was actively keeping my phone in a wake status which killed my battery. If there is nothing physically wrong with the phone, you'll have to troubleshoot your apps one by one.
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no you don't just flash Better Battery Stats and it'll do the work for you...:silly:
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no you don't just flash Better Battery Stats and it'll do the work for you...:silly:
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Lol, well I guess my suggestion was a little extreme.
Hi, thanks for all the responses - think i may have to do a hard reset. The longest my battery has ever went was probably 13 hours with normal usage and i'm a typical person so it's not like my normal usage is being on it all the time. My screen time is always a lot lower(1 hour to 1 hr 30) than everyone elses' in this board yet i still have lower battery AND i'm on stock.
i don't have any obscure apps really, just angry birds, dropbox, groupme, groupon, netflix, word search. i will still try to see if any app is sapping my battery.
right now i'm at 88% at 1 hr 30 min on battery. this is off only 8 minutes of internet, and the rest just idling with the screen off. Is that normal for everyone?
You ask questions and look for advice but it seems that you refuse to accept answers and heed suggestions.
Again: better battery stats main function is to give you a very detailed overview of your battery usage and what keeps your phone awake or wakes it up (ie wakelocks) So go read that thread and install the app and it'll answer all your queries. Amen
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I am reading a lot of different comments in the battery discussion thread. Its hard to tell how many people are happy and how many
hate the battery life. Some people have their phones on airplane mode to show of the lengevity and it really throws me off. Please vote
on the poll and make this simple. Do not post any screenshots or usage just a simple yes or no. Thanks Guys and Gals!
Says im not allowed to vote in the poll. Very happy with battery life
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I'm quite satisfied with the battery life.
It's my first Android phone and I had three iPhones. I don't find any of iPhones lasted longer than this phone.
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I'm quite satisfied with the battery life.
It's my first Android phone and I had three iPhones. I don't find any of iPhones lasted longer than this phone.
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My buddy is coming from an iPhone 4, and so far he hates everything about it as much as I try to change his mind. He is more concerned with the screen-off battery consumption than anything. He swears up and down that if his screen is off 95% of the time (just quick reads of email/sms) then his iPhone 4 will easily last 3 full days while notifying him of sms/email/im/facebook/etc. I don't see how that's possible. He says all the time he would put down the iPhone at night on the 5% warning, NOT charge it over night, and it would always be alive for the alarm in the morning (without disabling any syncing). I don't see how that's possible. He basically believes that phones should not take hardly any battery when their screen is off, and he swears up and down that his iPhone 4 never did. His N5 loses about 6% an hour with the screen off, meaning he has to have over 40% battery for his phone to last through his sleep (he refuses to charge it while sleeping and says he never had to with the iPhone).
Unfortunately GSam battery monitor does not work in KitKat. Can someone recommend a way to get to the bottom of his battery issues (I have already turned off LTE, Location Tracking, auto-brightness, and using ART instead of Dalvik). ...or is 17hours _standby_ all you can expect from this phone?
The ad says: Standby time up to 300 hours†
†Standby time tests used default settings with LTE on and Wi-Fi connected to a test access point. Wi-Fi internet tests had Airplane Mode on with Wi-Fi connected to a test access point, while loading three popular websites cached on a local server. The Nexus 5 loaded a page, waited 40 seconds, and then loaded a page from the next site.
Did he just get a bad one that needs returning?
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My buddy is coming from an iPhone 4, and so far he hates everything about it as much as I try to change his mind. He is more concerned with the screen-off battery consumption than anything. He swears up and down that if his screen is off 95% of the time (just quick reads of email/sms) then his iPhone 4 will easily last 3 full days while notifying him of sms/email/im/facebook/etc. I don't see how that's possible. He says all the time he would put down the iPhone at night on the 5% warning, NOT charge it over night, and it would always be alive for the alarm in the morning (without disabling any syncing). I don't see how that's possible. He basically believes that phones should not take hardly any battery when their screen is off, and he swears up and down that his iPhone 4 never did. His N5 loses about 6% an hour with the screen off, meaning he has to have over 40% battery for his phone to last through his sleep (he refuses to charge it while sleeping and says he never had to with the iPhone).
Unfortunately GSam battery monitor does not work in KitKat. Can someone recommend a way to get to the bottom of his battery issues (I have already turned off LTE, Location Tracking, auto-brightness, and using ART instead of Dalvik). ...or is 17hours _standby_ all you can expect from this phone?
The ad says: Standby time up to 300 hours†
†Standby time tests used default settings with LTE on and Wi-Fi connected to a test access point. Wi-Fi internet tests had Airplane Mode on with Wi-Fi connected to a test access point, while loading three popular websites cached on a local server. The Nexus 5 loaded a page, waited 40 seconds, and then loaded a page from the next site.
Did he just get a bad one that needs returning?
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get betterbatterystats to monitor his wakelocks, 6% per hr drains is BAD, it should be like at most 1% per hour
maybe has location and all syncs enabled?
mine only loses like 6% the whole night, i have like 97% deep sleep at least when screen is off
Check the battery stats in settings. There is a known issue with Google Play Services and wake locks. A reboot usually solves it temporarily.
I put my N5 into airplane mode before I go to bed. No annoying notifications and less drain (no cellular paging). I have verified several nights that I lose 1% battery over 8 hours in airplane mode.
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Yes. Extremely. Coming from gs3, gs4, n4, moto x.
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rpmccormick said:
My buddy is coming from an iPhone 4, and so far he hates everything about it as much as I try to change his mind. He is more concerned with the screen-off battery consumption than anything. He swears up and down that if his screen is off 95% of the time (just quick reads of email/sms) then his iPhone 4 will easily last 3 full days while notifying him of sms/email/im/facebook/etc. I don't see how that's possible. He says all the time he would put down the iPhone at night on the 5% warning, NOT charge it over night, and it would always be alive for the alarm in the morning (without disabling any syncing). I don't see how that's possible. He basically believes that phones should not take hardly any battery when their screen is off, and he swears up and down that his iPhone 4 never did. His N5 loses about 6% an hour with the screen off, meaning he has to have over 40% battery for his phone to last through his sleep (he refuses to charge it while sleeping and says he never had to with the iPhone).
Unfortunately GSam battery monitor does not work in KitKat. Can someone recommend a way to get to the bottom of his battery issues (I have already turned off LTE, Location Tracking, auto-brightness, and using ART instead of Dalvik). ...or is 17hours _standby_ all you can expect from this phone?
The ad says: Standby time up to 300 hours†
†Standby time tests used default settings with LTE on and Wi-Fi connected to a test access point. Wi-Fi internet tests had Airplane Mode on with Wi-Fi connected to a test access point, while loading three popular websites cached on a local server. The Nexus 5 loaded a page, waited 40 seconds, and then loaded a page from the next site.
Did he just get a bad one that needs returning?
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Auto syncs off. Constant account syncing is what drains the most battery when the screen is off.
These solutions unfortunately do not work:
1) BetterBatteryStats requires root to give any useful info. He does not really want to root, but would if he could do it without erasing everything (not fond of backup/restore either, but if you can FULLY backup without root [or get root without erasing so no backup is necessary] then I could get him to let me root it). Probably off-topic, so I will continue to research no-wipe root solutions (keep seeing it referenced with no links)
2) Turning off sync or going in to air-plane mode will not do. He wants an instant notification for any communication-event 24/7 just like his iPhone4 gave him, and I for one cannot blame him, as my HTC One does for me without killing the battery (and thanks to researching this for him, I now have really long battery [even with all notifications] by using Greenify - but he doesn't since he doesn't have root yet).
Number 1 above (and/or Greenify) is the correct solution, I just need to root it first. Hard to do on someone else's phone though... but I hate that he so hates his first Android Experience on the N5 (largely due to the bad battery, and also do to the fact he is scared to root it or even install a custom launcher).
Anyway, thanks for the help (and PM me if you have something to say that is not battery-life related... I'm not trying to thread-hijack)
I just got my Z5 a few days ago, and the battery life is downright AWFUL. With stamina mode on, my phone drains about 1% every minute or two, just while browsing the web. What is going on here?
Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/uDv2hIs.png
Me too, it's a total letdown. Had 3 hours SOC and around 9-10 hours overall before it conked out on me yesterday
Uclydde said:
I just got my Z5 a few days ago, and the battery life is downright AWFUL. With stamina mode on, my phone drains about 1% every minute or two, just while browsing the web. What is going on here?
Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/uDv2hIs.png
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Looks like your device is spending a lot of time switching networks which is battery intensive. Are you in a poor signal area?
augie7107 said:
Looks like your device is spending a lot of time switching networks which is battery intensive. Are you in a poor signal area?
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Occasionally, but not all the time. The battery drain was still this bad even when I was connected to my WiFi signal at home
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Occasionally, but not all the time. The battery drain was still this bad even when I was connected to my WiFi signal at home
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Try airplane mode and see if it improves. This will allow you to use WIFI but halt network search and switching. Check battery stats after a while to see if that helps. Of course, you will get no network dependent communications while in airplane mode so take that into consideration prior to testing. Battery performance will settle down after a few weeks as well but you certainly seem to have a major drain problem and testing will help you locate the cause.
augie7107 said:
Looks like your device is spending a lot of time switching networks which is battery intensive. Are you in a poor signal area?
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augie7107 said:
Try airplane mode and see if it improves. This will allow you to use WIFI but halt network search and switching. Check battery stats after a while to see if that helps. Of course, you will get no network dependent communications while in airplane mode so take that into consideration prior to testing. Battery performance will settle down after a few weeks as well but you certainly seem to have a major drain problem and testing will help you locate the cause.
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All right, thanks. I'm gonna try that and report back here later today.
Okay, airplane mode hasn't helped much at all. I'm still draining 1% every minute or two.
Uclydde said:
Okay, airplane mode hasn't helped much at all. I'm still draining 1% every minute or two.
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That is truly strange. Any running apps killing it? I just streamed a two hour movie and lost 22%. I read somewhere that the pre-installed AVG was a battery hog. I couldn't tell you because I uninstalled it as soon as I booted for the first time. Are you still running it? That may be the next test.
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That is truly strange. Any running apps killing it? I just streamed a two hour movie and lost 22%. I read somewhere that the pre-installed AVG was a battery hog. I couldn't tell you because I uninstalled it as soon as I booted for the first time. Are you still running it? That may be the next test.
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Nope, I uninstalled it immediately too.
Only other suggestion is factory reset or repair firmware both if which are a PIA.
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That is truly strange. Any running apps killing it? I just streamed a two hour movie and lost 22%. I read somewhere that the pre-installed AVG was a battery hog. I couldn't tell you because I uninstalled it as soon as I booted for the first time. Are you still running it? That may be the next test.
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Only other suggestion is factory reset or repair firmware both if which are a PIA.
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Yeah, I thought it would come to this.
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Yeah, I thought it would come to this.
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Have you looked at your Google account settings to see if everything is syncing properly? I have seen this before when someone had an error while trying to sync photos to their Google account, demolished their battery until they went into account settings and unchecked whatever it was that was syncing constantly.
Also make sure you have opted out of Google's location history thing in Google maps where it tells you everywhere you've been on any given day, that can wipe your battery as well. Lastly try turning off the xperia protection that allows you to remotely deactivate the phone, just make sure you don't lose it in the meantime !
I got a Z5 the day it came out and it has done pretty well on battery life, at least until I installed Facebook and Messenger. When I uninstalled the two of them, the battery life returned to pretty good. With Facebook and Messenger the battery was draining extremely quickly. I unlocked the bootloader the day I got the phone and am waiting for TWRP as root will sort a lot of this out.
After 3 Days, i looks like a normale Day use by me around 50% battery. I have allthetime Bluetooth and Wlan on. Whatsapp and Gmail sync. I use my Phone usually for streamming musik over bluetooth around 2h hours, read news and message (Whatsapp) around 2h hours, play some games around 30minutes and some Calls around the same time. My "old" Z1 i had usually to charge ones during the day and of course during the night. So im happy with the battery time @ z5.
redandblack1287 said:
Have you looked at your Google account settings to see if everything is syncing properly? I have seen this before when someone had an error while trying to sync photos to their Google account, demolished their battery until they went into account settings and unchecked whatever it was that was syncing constantly.
Also make sure you have opted out of Google's location history thing in Google maps where it tells you everywhere you've been on any given day, that can wipe your battery as well. Lastly try turning off the xperia protection that allows you to remotely deactivate the phone, just make sure you don't lose it in the meantime !
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Okay, I just turned off automatic Google photos backup, and Google's location history setting was already off. I also turned off my Xperia (the thing that lets me remotely deactivate the phone). Let's see if it works.
Yeah, its still draining fast. In case you're wondering, I keep my screen at half brightness. You can look at the photo I attached.
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Did you ever resolve the issue? I'm getting similar battery life and am not happy about it.
This may be a noob-ish suggestion and one that the phone industry claims isn't necessary anymore, but have you tried "calibrating" the battery by charging it to 100 and completely draining it to the point where the phone won't turn on 2 times and then fully charging it a 3rd time? It may be an old, unnecessary habit, but I've done this every time I get a new battery (or phone) and I usually have really good battery life for the first year - year and a half. The one device I failed to do this on was my Xperia z2 tablet and it suffered for it (i think) although that could just be my prejudice and confirmation bias speaking.
- others suggest NOT to fully drain your phone's battery because you might have troubles turning it on.
Did you by any chance have "Glove Mode" enabled in Settings < Display? It seems that your screen is the culprit. Try disabling "Smart backlight" if you have it enabled and "Tap to wake up".
From the screenshot you posted earlier (History details) we can see that even when the screen is off the wifi is on and the phone isn't actually sleeping. So you got a wakelock on your hands that uses WiFi and doesn't let the phone sleep.
In WiFi settings under advanced (Wifi< Three dots, top right< Advanced) do you have wifi as always on? Change it to "Only when plugged in", also disable "Scanning always available" in the same menu.
Any chance we can get a list of apps you have installed yourself on your phone?