I just picked up this OEM-condition ATT Captivate today and after playing around with it, installing apps on it, fixing the rear speaker, etc...I decided I want to root it and try out a good/reputable/reliable ROM.
Here's the tricky part...this phone doesn't have service, nor will it ever. That's right. Absolutely no cellular service for this device. I'm using it strictly as a home phone for incoming/outgoing calls on my WiFi using GrooveIP + my google voice number(and maybe some games/radio/etc) and as an emergency phone when I'm away from home and in other WiFi hotspots. Otherwise I've got this crappy little tracfone that I use almost exlusively for texting and the rare phone calls I need to make. Just can't justify wasting money on a contract or any other setup with the way I use phones anymore.
So considering how I use this phone is it worth rooting? If so, what ROM could I go with that will be significantly better than the OEM setup but not require j33t hax to mess around with? If this were my main cell I wouldn't mind going all out on it like I've done with every other phone I've owned, but since I use it this way I can't really justify dumping a ton of time and effort in to it. I just want something clean, cool, and reliable.
If it helps any here's the apps I have/use currently...
-Advanced Task Killer
-Play Store
-Zedge
-Firefox
-Youtube
-GrooveIP
-Gmail
-Facebook
-Words With Friends
-AdAway(Don't use it, but would like to)
Here are my software versions...
Firmware Version - 2.3.5
Baseband Version - I897UCKK4
Kernal Version - 2.6.35.7-I897UCKK4-CL614489
Build Number - GINGERBREAD.UCKK4
which stock os version are you running? eclair, froyo or gingerbread?
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Check the development forum. Someone created a ROM called captivate touch. I think it is what you're looking for.
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laughingT said:
which stock os version are you running? eclair, froyo or gingerbread?
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I'm brand-new to droid phones so I really have no idea what those names beyond being OS versions apparently.
Firmware Version - 2.3.5
Baseband Version - I897UCKK4
Kernal Version - 2.6.35.7-I897UCKK4-CL614489
Build Number - GINGERBREAD.UCKK4
Red_81 said:
Check the development forum. Someone created a ROM called captivate touch. I think it is what you're looking for.
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Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check that one out.
Check out Legend 5. It's the best for KK4 Gingerbread (Tested by me).
The link is on my sig just click it. :good:
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Check out Legend 5. It's the best for KK4 Gingerbread (Tested by me).
The link is on my sig just click it. :good:
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Thanks, checking that out now.
The ROM mentioned by a poster above doesn't look to be supported anymore and I don't think it's compatible with my KK4 GB.
Could someone explain to me real quick how this ROM stuff works? To my knowledge this phone has a Firmware and an OS, and if that's the case, does the ROM replace the OS and/or the Firmware? Or is it installed and ran separate from my Firmware and OS? If there's a thread that explains this, a link would be much appreciated.
Answered my own question. I'm going with the Legend 5 ROM + CORN kernel 7.06 using the Odin method. Installed the kernel first, now trying to figure out how to get the pop-up menu when I plug the USB cable in so I can go to mass storage mode in order to put that ROM.zip file on there. I guess it doesn't do that anymore with the new kernel?
Install went without a hitch. Noticing a lot of visual differences, but not much in the way of performance differences.
Does this CORN kernel lock my phone in at 1.60GHz or did I misread something?
Does having this kernel mean my phone is now "rooted?"
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Install went without a hitch. Noticing a lot of visual differences, but not much in the way of performance differences.
Does this CORN kernel lock my phone in at 1.60GHz or did I misread something?
Does having this kernel mean my phone is now "rooted?"
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Corn kernel gives you a ROOTED status, and enables you to use "schedulers and governors" and a 1.2Ghz CPU speed which is confirmed safe. Download CPU Spy and Voltage Control in play store so you can monitor your CPU usage and can adjust between schedulers and governors. I use Legend 5 ICS.
Not sure if I want to go as far as OCing anything. Just looking for a nice ROM that fits my needs.
Legend5 seems nice but it has some issues here and there and the way I use the phone doesn't really benefit from a majority of the changes it offers. I'll keep messing with it and see if I can like it a bit more.
takeoutttt, I got CPU Spy and Voltage control but what I'm seeing on my screen doesn't match any of the walkthroughs I found for VC.
On the main screen I have the Scheduler dropdown, Governor dropdown, and two slider bars...one for minimum speed and one for maximum speed. I see no other dropdowns, no other sliders, no advanced screen, no voltage controls, etc.
Options in scheduler dropdown; noop, deadline, cfq(default).
Options in governor dropdown; conservative, userspace, powersave, ondemand, performance.
Settings are default for now until I can figure this out.
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Update-Solutions added
This thread kinda rambles, and covers a couple different issues.
I'll try to summarize the solutions to each to time and eliminate extra reading for those who might end up here later.
Issue #1: My Mesmerize was not recording sound with videos
Solution: Go into Voodoo Sound Control app (download from market if you don't have it) and under [recording profile], select "Original". Solved!
Issue #2: I was having various minor issues that sounded as thought they might be fixed by flashing a new kernel.
scarmon25 suggested that I try out OTB-Reloaded. He was right, this is a great kernel! It allows overclocking and undervolting at the same time. I'm hoping this will give me both better performance and greater battery life.
Solution: Backup everything (Nandroid and TiBackup suggested), Flash the new kernel from recovery (you can use ROM manager to boot into Clockwork Mod Recovery) and reboot.
I'm not about to get into a discussion of backups, recovery, flashing, which kernel you need, etc... This is just a plug/endorsement for the OTB-reloaded kernel, period.
Issue #3: At some point while updating to 2.2 Froyo and flashing new kernels, ROMs, etc... my home screen started rotating along with my apps. I could turn rotation on/off from the notification tray, but that disabled it for apps also.
Solution: It was pointed out by add144 that it's the home screen launcher that controls home screen rotation.
I'm running LauncherPro, be he mentioned that most other launchers (ADW, GO Launcher, etc...) also have the ability to allow or lock home screen rotation.
In my case (LauncherPro), here's the process for locking your homescreen rotation while still allowing auto-rotation in other apps:
1) From home screen, go to Menu (button) -> Preferences
2) Select Behavior Settings
3) Uncheck "Enable Auto-rotation"
4) Done!
I hope this summary saves someone some time and fruitless searching.
Cheers!
-Mike
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Hi all,
I apologize for this question being a bit light on useful details, but my memory isn't so great.
I have a Mez, running 2.2 Froyo (updated from USCC), a custom ROM (I think), and a custom kernel (not sure which one).
I know that sounds insane, but there was a time a while back when I was flashing different things trying to find something that worked to my liking, and honestly just can't remember what combination I settled on.
It doesn't help that I'm still fuzzy on the whole ROM vs Kernel thing.
Anyway, here's the issue...
The videos I record on the phone have no sound.
You can hear a little background hiss, but no actual sound from the mic.
I can't remember if it worked before I updated to 2.2, but I suspect it did or I think I'd have noticed it before.
I guess I could flash everything back to stock and see if that fixes it, but I'd REALLY rather not do that, since it would take me so long to get it back sorted.
Is there a way to figure out exactly what I currently have installed on the phone?
Also, can anyone think of things I can do to troubleshoot the no audio issue?
Thanks in advance,
-Mike
This sounds like a issue I had on one of the earlier voodoo kernels. The fix was to download the voodoo control appear from the market and set recording preset to normal. This was fixed in the later releases of voodoo. Do you know which kernel your are on. That would help us narrow it down for you.
Edit. If you download the cpu spy app from the market you can pull your info up and see which kernel your on. It won't say exactly which one but should have the authors name in it so we can know which one your on to an extent.
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Thanks for the quick reply scarmon.
I checked my voodoo sound options (already had the app) and I don't have a 'normal' recording preset.
My choices are:
Original
Balanced (new default) - with DRC
High Sensitivity - with DRC
Loud Environment - with DRC
I assume this means I have one of the newer versions of voodoo sound?
I'll get that cpu spy app and see what it says about my kernel.
Thanks!
-Mike
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Thanks for the quick reply scarmon.
I checked my voodoo sound options (already had the app) and I don't have a 'normal' recording preset.
My choices are:
Original
Balanced (new default) - with DRC
High Sensitivity - with DRC
Loud Environment - with DRC
I assume this means I have one of the newer versions of voodoo sound?
I'll get that cpu spy app and see what it says about my kernel.
Thanks!
-Mike
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Use original
Switched to Original, audio works now, thanks!
I wonder why the "new" profiles don't work?
Is it a limitation of this phone or a problem with voodoo?
The newer voodoo kernels have that issue fixed. I believe it was just a issue with the first few ec10 voodoo kernels. May wanna try one of the new OTB or imnuts kernels. The recording works on those as I have tried both.
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The newer voodoo kernels have that issue fixed. I believe it was just a issue with the first few ec10 voodoo kernels. May wanna try one of the new OTB or imnuts kernels. The recording works on those as I have tried both.
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Good to know, thanks.
Is updating to one of those kernels you mentioned a simple 'boot to recovery and flash zip from SD card' or something more?
Here's a screenshot of my current kernel info from cpu spy...
Does that help any? I don't recognize that author.
EDIT: That OTB kernel sounds really interesting.
Please refer to my above question about the simplicity or complexity of flashing that kernel over the one I have now.
Yeah u flash in CWM. If your on voodoo and 2.2 then you shouldn't have any issues. If u go with OTB make sure to get the voltage control app. So u can adjust it. Just go easy on the over clock and undervolting till u see how your phone reacts. If u go with OTB let me know and I will post my settings. Been running them for a while and they seem pretty stable.
Edit. Switched to PC to correct my spelling.
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The above is what I'd try first. If you still find that you're having issues even with a new kernel, I'd consider flashing a new ROM as well.
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If u go with OTB let me know and I will post my settings. Been running them for a while and they seem pretty stable.
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I'll be flashing OTB shortly and would love to get your settings.
Thanks!
-Mike
K, This is what I have been running and it seems pretty stable for me. Keep in mind each phone is different and yours may not respond as well, or it may do even better then mine. I would suggest using the apply for now option in voltage control for a few days and once you know there good, you can apply at boot. Also nemisses included and great feature in CWM that allows you to remove boot settings in the event that you set something at boot and it doesn't work. You will get this once you flash the OTB v1.3 kernel. This will update CWM and the feature is under the advanced section of CWM if you need it. Here's the settings I have been using.
For the Scheduler I use BFQ
I set the Max Clock to 1200mhz
I have the following step and voltage drops enabled
200 mhz -100
400 mhz -100
600 mhz -75
800 mhz -75
1000 mhz -75
1200 mhz -50
With theses settings I am getting about a day of moderate use from my battery and great performance. You may play around with it and may get better results. Hope this helps.
OTB 1.3?
The thread I was watching only goes to v1.2 for OTB-reloaded.
What am I missing?
I also noticed that is was technically a Fascinate kernel, is that a problem?
It works on the mesmerize too. That's what I'm on. There should be a link in the OP that's has v 1.3. Its he second link at the bottom of the OP
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Okay, I think I see the issue.
I was looking at this thread, whereas I think you're referring to this thread, right?
What's the difference between those 2 kernels, other than the OTB version?
one is Touch wiz and one is AOSP. If you are on stock Froyo you need touchwiz. AOSP will not work on stock ROM. You posted in the right one for OTB. This is the one you need for Stock Froyo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011626
The 1.3 link is towards the bottom of the first post.
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one is Touch wiz and one is AOSP. If you are on stock Froyo you need touchwiz. AOSP will not work on stock ROM. You posted in the right one for OTB. This is the one you need for Stock Froyo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011626
The 1.3 link is towards the bottom of the first post.
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I don't think I'm on stock froyo, though.
As far as I can tell, I'm running SuperFrankenClean 0.292.
I base this on the files I found on my SD card while I was moving some stuff around just now.
In any case, it sounds like the touchwiz kernel is the one I need.
I'm downloading it now and will flash in a few.
Let me know if it looks like I'm about to frag something and I'll wait.
-Mike
OOPS! That should be SuperFrankenClean 2.9.2 ROM and EC10_ulv_voodoo kernel....I think.
Does that change anything?
Wait. Let me pull that ROM and I can tell you.
K this is showing to be used with touchwiz based kernels so u should be good to go.
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Yeah your good man flash away. As long as its a touch wizard kernel you good to go. If u used the one I linked u too then u will be fine.
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Awesome, flashing now....
If you hear a scream, it means it didn't work. lol
-Mike
Well I'm here all night so if it does go wrong we will fix it. But honestly you shouldn't have any issues
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Hello everybody I looked all over the Infuse Forums for a Safe OverClock Speed... but i couldnt find anything... so im sry if i missed it... Does anybody know of safe number? thanks in advanced!!
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Hello everybody I looked all over the Infuse Forums for a Safe OverClock Speed... but i couldnt find anything... so im sry if i missed it... Does anybody know of safe number? thanks in advanced!!
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All CPU's are different. Some phones will have no problem running at 1.6ghz. Some will. It's a trial and error thing.
If you are worried, start conservative and work your way up.
would you say that overclocking your phone is worth it? i know that it can really improve the performance of the phone... but it greatly decreases the battery life... and vice versa u can lower it and increase bat life n lower performance. im looking at opinions also thanks for the reply!!
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would you say that overclocking your phone is worth it? i know that it can really improve the performance of the phone... but it greatly decreases the battery life... and vice versa u can lower it and increase bat life n lower performance. im looking at opinions also thanks for the reply!!
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I personally have the Infusion kernel running on my phone, which allows me to OC my device, but I don't want to. I've come across no normal instance when I've found that I needed the extra power. I mainly wanted it so that I could undervolt (UV) which improves battery life.
Adding a custom ROM and also adding voodoo (most ROM's have voodoo) will increase the performance of your phone.
I'm running Infusion 2.0 on Infused 1.5.3 right now (waiting for GB HDMI capabilities...thanks AT&T) and I'm loving it.
sweet man thx for the reply!! ive been looking for a custom rom to install but just havnt found one that i like yet... i like Miui but they dont have one built for the Infuse yet... so im kinda waiting on that... but who knows when that will come out..
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sweet man thx for the reply!! ive been looking for a custom rom to install but just havnt found one that i like yet... i like Miui but they dont have one built for the Infuse yet... so im kinda waiting on that... but who knows when that will come out..
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I like how miui looks too. I'm running launcher pro with a miui icon pack installed. Compromises...
oh well!
Oh and I think some people actually do have MIUI, not sure who, but I know it does exist in some unofficial form or another for the infuse.
ah cool!! i cant wait for miui!! what is launcher pro? if u dont mind me asking...
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ah cool!! i cant wait for miui!! what is launcher pro? if u dont mind me asking...
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Launcher Pro is a homescreen alternative. You can change things up, add different transition effects.
For instance, my homescreen is attached.
EricNagel said:
I personally have the Infusion kernel running on my phone, which allows me to OC my device, but I don't want to. I've come across no normal instance when I've found that I needed the extra power. I mainly wanted it so that I could undervolt (UV) which improves battery life.
Adding a custom ROM and also adding voodoo (most ROM's have voodoo) will increase the performance of your phone.
I'm running Infusion 2.0 on Infused 1.5.3 right now (waiting for GB HDMI capabilities...thanks AT&T) and I'm loving it.
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EricNagel said:
I personally have the Infusion kernel running on my phone, which allows me to OC my device, but I don't want to. I've come across no normal instance when I've found that I needed the extra power. I mainly wanted it so that I could undervolt (UV) which improves battery life.
Adding a custom ROM and also adding voodoo (most ROM's have voodoo) will increase the performance of your phone.
I'm running Infusion 2.0 on Infused 1.5.3 right now (waiting for GB HDMI capabilities...thanks AT&T) and I'm loving it.
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Ditto same setup here and i consider myself super lucky but i can push the overclock up to 1.8 with voltage control play N64 emulator (starfox,mariokart) all day long and its perfectly stable with undervolt settings..
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I like how miui looks too. I'm running launcher pro with a miui icon pack installed. Compromises...
oh well!
Oh and I think some people actually do have MIUI, not sure who, but I know it does exist in some unofficial form or another for the infuse.
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Mikey passed out 1-2 MIUI builds as a proof of concept on IRC a while back, but it took the existing problems with CM7 (MIUI is layered over CM7) and added new ones, so it's on hold until more of the issues with base CM7 get fixed.
mv1luv said:
Ditto same setup here and i consider myself super lucky but i can push the overclock up to 1.8 with voltage control play N64 emulator (starfox,mariokart) all day long and its perfectly stable with undervolt settings..
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There's no way you took your device to 1.8 - our devices can't go past 1.6 without overclocking the system bus, and the system bus does NOT like to overclock. The best anyone has done was around 1664 MHz and it was unstable as hell for a lot of people.
Some versions of Infusion reported operating at 1.8, but that's because bedwa made some mistakes in his PLL calculations - he thought those settings would run the CPU at 1.8 but they actually ran it at around 1.55
Way to burst my bubble.. I learned something new today thankyou
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Way to burst my bubble.. I learned something new today thankyou
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fastest anyone has reported to have gotten a hummingbird legitamately that i have seen was a kernel for the fascinate that had a really goofy timing stucture and had problems with other hardware. they reported the cpu running @ 1.7ghz with the gpu and bus at some really goofy speeds and fluctuated as the cpu scaled. it looked like a total mess.
Really the highest most people can go is 1.6 stable, which is what I'm running at.
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I downloaded setcpu but I can't tell if my phone is being overclocked... I also installed infused on my phone...not sure if that would make
a difference
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I just downloaded voltage control but not sure exactly how to tweak it with out messing something up...anybody have a quick run down (good / bad)?
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I just downloaded voltage control but not sure exactly how to tweak it with out messing something up...anybody have a quick run down (good / bad)?
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I use cfq/ on demand or conservitaive.
Undervolting is hit or Miss for each phone so hard to justify what's good just try and see
Overclock- I'm at 1600 with min at 100 and have to say no issues I love Oc.
.......infuse.....Infused....infusion.........
My max is 1664 and it locks up sometimes so i backed it down to 1456. Is there a quick guide to use voltage control
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My max is 1664 and it locks up sometimes so i backed it down to 1456. Is there a quick guide to use voltage control
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If your on froyo use the a kernel its more stable buddy. What exactly do you need to know?
.......infuse.....Infused....infusion.........
Im running infused 1.6.0 w/ core B kernel. I read people adjusting certain areas to make it more stable and increase speed and battery...
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Howdy, So I just got my first smart phone a few weeks ago, the AT&T Skyrocket. Kinda odd since I have been in IT works for many years that it took so long but could never afford the upgrade, my cars sap every spare penny lol.
After getting the phone I spent a few days getting to know it and then rooted it so I could use Titanium backup.
Now long story short due to an unrelated issue with ATT they sent me another phone to fix an issue I told them was on their end (and sure enough, it is, I think I figured it out though, anyone else get charged for a text message when the ATT family map "pings" the device?).
So for the time being I have 2 skyrocket phones and figured this was as good a time as any to try out another rom/kernal on the 2nd phone in case I don't like it my phone will remain untouched (I am picky about how my computers are setup).
So that is the history lesson, I have read sooo much the last few weeks it has gave me a good handle on the general process ect. My issue is picking out an actual rom/kernal to use, I have read so much they are all just one big garble of random info and I could use some advice to pick out what would work for me.
Here is what I want out of a rom/Kernal:
Clock speeds/voltages unlocked, I am an oldschool overclocker so naturally I feel everything can be made better.
Better battery life, Right now the battery life is ok but a bit too close for my tastes and I also feel it is just draining too fast for what I am doing (about ~8-10%/Hour average).
Some improvements like the light meter being linear vs having big steps would also be nice, I know the sensor itself can do it from the the screens but the software just goes in steps I guess.
Stable! I want something rock solid stable that I can count on for a long time to come.
Thats about it, The stock rom works fine for my needs minus those complaints. The clock/voltages being the biggest complaint if I had to go with only a kernal to keep a stable ROM.
So what suggestions do ya'll have? Is there by any chance a modded stock rom that is just debloated ect but will still be stable, that would work nice if it helped battery life some combined with a kernal I think.
I don't mind trying a few combos of roms/kernals but only have a week or 2 before I have to send this phone back and would need to fully test each one so I figure I only have time to do that on a handful in that time frame (I am very through)
Rom I have no clue what would work best for me. Kernal the Faux looks pretty good for my goals but I am not sure.
Any advice would be great.
From personal experience, anything made by forum member mhx is incredible. His ROMs are always super stable and and stripped of bloat. It also has the best battery out of all the ROMs I've tried.
Mhx's Gingerbread ROM
Mhx's ICS ROM
This is the kernel that I use Faux's Kernel
Kagenui said:
From personal experience, anything made by forum member mhx is incredible. His ROMs are always super stable and and stripped of bloat. It also has the best battery out of all the ROMs I've tried.
Mhx's Gingerbread ROM
Mhx's ICS ROM
This is the kernel that I use Faux's Kernel
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Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
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If you are wanting a rock solid stable phone I would avoid the ICS madness for now, it's not quite perfected yet. You don't have to use the kernel they come with.
xcrazydx said:
If you are wanting a rock solid stable phone I would avoid the ICS madness for now, it's not quite perfected yet. You don't have to use the kernel they come with.
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Thanks, I was kinda thinking that. For future reference, what does ICS offer that Gingerbread doesn't?
So I take it that this means there are stable gingerbread roms that should at least come close to stock for reliability/functionality long term? Any opinion on the above mentioned rom/Kernal combo?
Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, Those roms look nice for sure!
That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
Is it more like going from windows 95 to 98? Or like 98 to Windows 7?
Is it worth going with ICS over the gingerbread?
Lastly I notice that they say they come with kernels, Does that mean I have to use those kernels? I assume this is not the case since you are using a different kernel but better safe then sorry.
Thanks for the help!
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This article sums it up nicely.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-2-3-gingerbread-vs-android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-37742/
Kagenui said:
This article sums it up nicely.
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Thanks for that, I had not seen a list of the features listed out like that before. I think I am starting to see what all the buzz is now.
I plan on flashing the rom/kernel you posted earlier tonight, if anyone else has a suggestion for a follow up combo to try feel free to share!
Last I heard OCing of ICS is not possible yet, so since you mentioned that, ICS is out for a good while.
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Last I heard OCing of ICS is not possible yet, so since you mentioned that, ICS is out for a good while.
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Ah, yeah that would put that off for a little while. Think I might try it out before returning the phone so at least I know if I am interested in it but just gonna stick with the most stable gingerbread rom for now.
Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, I was kinda thinking that. For future reference, what does ICS offer that Gingerbread doesn't?
So I take it that this means there are stable gingerbread roms that should at least come close to stock for reliability/functionality long term? Any opinion on the above mentioned rom/Kernal combo?
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Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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xcrazydx said:
Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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Thanks, out of those the MHX, nexus and silver rom look to be the most up my alley, should at least give me a good idea if an aftermarket rom is for me.
One question I have is they all mention needing new Modem files flashed? This is different then the radios? Anything I should know about that aspect of it?
xcrazydx said:
Yeah there are a number of stable GB roms. nexusmod4, mhx superlite, seanz skyics, tpcv3, silver ROM. Read through the threads and see what people think. I prefer nexusmod as my daily, but all those are good
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agreed, all those x listed have proven to be extrememly stable. For best battery life with OC'ing and undervolting support use any of those roms with faux's 010m kernel. I was getting 1% battery almost every two hours with that, fauxclock app undervolt -100mV, and tpc v3, before i switched to ics
Texas_Ace said:
Thanks, out of those the MHX, nexus and silver rom look to be the most up my alley, should at least give me a good idea if an aftermarket rom is for me.
One question I have is they all mention needing new Modem files flashed? This is different then the radios? Anything I should know about that aspect of it?
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No, modern = radio. I always flash the radio before the ROM
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agreed, all those x listed have proven to be extrememly stable. For best battery life with OC'ing and undervolting support use any of those roms with faux's 010m kernel. I was getting 1% battery almost every two hours with that, fauxclock app undervolt -100mV, and tpc v3, before i switched to ics
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I just flashed the 010m kernel on the stock rom to play with that first and ran into something I am not sure about.
I tried both system tuner and fauxclock, at first everything was working as it should then I noticed that the 2nd core said "offline" and it won't seem to come on no matter what even while running stress tests. Any ideas?
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That brings up another question I have. I keep reading all this stuff about ICS but have not been able to figure out why it is such a big deal. Looks like just a different theme to me or is it more then that?
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It's more than that. It's a lot smoother and faster, better performance in everything, hardware accelerated UI, better multitasking.
It's the biggest update the OS has ever gotten, period. Yeah, it's still Android at the end of the day, but it's a pretty big refinement.
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It's more than that. It's a lot smoother and faster, better performance in everything, hardware accelerated UI, better multitasking.
It's the biggest update the OS has ever gotten, period. Yeah, it's still Android at the end of the day, but it's a pretty big refinement.
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Yeah, I am starting to see that.
Back to the issue of the 2nd core going offline, After some playing around the only way I could seem to get it to come back online was to install SetCPU along with fauxclock. This seems to make the 2nd core come online but I am worried that running both apps will cause issues with them fighting over who has control?
I much prefer setCPU for the clock speed controls due to the profiles I can create but no voltage control. Is it possible to use the faux for voltage and the setCPU for clock speed control? Or am I asking for problems?
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Yeah, I am starting to see that.
Back to the issue of the 2nd core going offline, After some playing around the only way I could seem to get it to come back online was to install SetCPU along with fauxclock. This seems to make the 2nd core come online but I am worried that running both apps will cause issues with them fighting over who has control?
I much prefer setCPU for the clock speed controls due to the profiles I can create but no voltage control. Is it possible to use the faux for voltage and the setCPU for clock speed control? Or am I asking for problems?
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Definately asking for problems. Only use ONE cpu controlling app. SetCPU does have better profiles but fauxclock has a few. Which rom were u using it with? It does disable the 2nd core by default to save battery, but enabled it as soon as it is required (i.e. games and/or benchmark.) TO check run a force close setcpu and run a benchmark, then home back to menu and run setcpu, it will show 2nd core as active.
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Definately asking for problems. Only use ONE cpu controlling app. SetCPU does have better profiles but fauxclock has a few. Which rom were u using it with? It does disable the 2nd core by default to save battery, but enabled it as soon as it is required (i.e. games and/or benchmark.) TO check run a force close setcpu and run a benchmark, then home back to menu and run setcpu, it will show 2nd core as active.
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I tried that, the 2nd core stays offline no matter what I do unless I run setcpu.
I would just run setCPU but then I would not be able to undervolt. I wounder if I could use one of these scripts http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20946429&postcount=574
That would take care of the undervolt and then use setcpu to handle the clock speeds? That would seem to be the best of both worlds.
not recommended. Use system tuner instead. It has almost as much profile control as setcpu, but the voltage control of fauxclock. It also has an option to force both cores online.
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not recommended. Use system tuner instead. It has almost as much profile control as setcpu, but the voltage control of fauxclock. It also has an option to force both cores online.
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I tried it but didn't care for it. Still didn't have the profiling options I want. I like the setcpu since I can set it to have different CPU speeds at different times/situations. Maybe that is not worth the power savings. Whats wrong with setcpu?
I also had the same problem with system tuner as well, it would not bring the 2nd core online.
Why is the overclocking area on my Captivate greyed out after installing cm9 latest nightly???
I honestly do not have the time to read hundreds of pages of forums to see if someone has allready had this issue.
Of course i tried searches.
It happens on any cm9 nightly, not just the latest one.
I want to be back at 1.2ghz. being stuck at 1ghz. is rediculous to me after being so spoiled. (lots of google earth, gaming and other stuff that a higher clock speed helps with)
If I have to I will just go back to 2.3.7 and a swift 1.3ghz. MAX
BUT it seems like I should be able to overclock using CM9 on my captivate.
Please do not explain the system settings and performance yadda yadda yadda, anymore, i am obviously familiar enough with an android device to know how to use system settings etc. if i can root and install custom roms i can read and point and click as well.
Sorry for the frustruation but i seriously can not deal with anymore nonsense and 80 diff. pieces of broken info from people that only "heard from some guy" about how to do all this.
Thank you in advance... forever learning"!"
yellowfuse said:
Why is the overclocking area on my Captivate greyed out after installing cm9 latest nightly???
I honestly do not have the time to read hundreds of pages of forums to see if someone has allready had this issue.
Of course i tried searches.
It happens on any cm9 nightly, not just the latest one.
I want to be back at 1.2ghz. being stuck at 1ghz. is rediculous to me after being so spoiled. (lots of google earth, gaming and other stuff that a higher clock speed helps with)
If I have to I will just go back to 2.3.7 and a swift 1.3ghz. MAX
BUT it seems like I should be able to overclock using CM9 on my captivate.
Please do not explain the system settings and performance yadda yadda yadda, anymore, i am obviously familiar enough with an android device to know how to use system settings etc. if i can root and install custom roms i can read and point and click as well.
Sorry for the frustruation but i seriously can not deal with anymore nonsense and 80 diff. pieces of broken info from people that only "heard from some guy" about how to do all this.
Thank you in advance... forever learning"!"
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Were you using Glitch before, or some other custom kernel? I didn't think cyanogen's stock kernel supported overclock. If you install a new nightly you have to reinstall your overclocking kernel.
I have been using cyanogenmod only. I never purposefully installed a custom kernel then the rom. Just used Odin to root/clockwork and so forth. Never heard of Glitch. Through out all of my custom rom experiences with the captivate I have been able to use the sys. settings or osmonitor to overclock to a max of 1.3ghz. I have tried miui or whatever its called for about five minutes. other than that just cm6/7, then updated to cm9. in the past whatever kernel i had, stayed in effect, i guess.
I will do a search for custom kernels for cm9 on captivate.
I havent seen any yet, but who knows. I am used to simply stunning roms and the moto droid one. That was great! SS/chevy~ would always have links to the latest kernels avail. for the current builds etc. Good job too.
SO... the search continues.
*Mystery: If I cant even change cpu settings in osmonitor (up or down), yet it lets me enable root mode, what does that mean? The greyed out overclocking area in perfomance settings (up or down)???
I need to learn more"!"
As mentioned, glitch kernel b6 is a great ics kernel. Flash over CM9 and install nstools from the market to control all the kernel settings such as oc/uv, voltages etc etc.
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The options are greyed out because the stock kernel currently doesn't support overclocking. Glitch is awesome, and Semaphore kernel is pretty nice too.
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IcyGlitch for OC, and Semaphore for 400MB mem.
Well Glitch has 387 MB of free RAM
both kernels are good
I want my 13 MB! They are unused so occupying them is unforgivable. IcyGlitch is solid kernel, and I hope 400MB will be added.
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I just got my G2x from my Optimus V and I'd like to flash a new ROM. I've already rooted it. What ROM is stable and as close to pure Android as possible? I hate all the bloatware that come on these phones from the carriers. I've been reading through all the ROMs in the Dev section but my head is spinning.
If you want super pure, your best bet is probably to stick with stock, since the G2x came with vanilla Android. Use Titanium Backup to freeze/uninstall all the bloat you want gone.
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CM7.2 Official with Faux v50 Kernel. I back the OC down from 1.5 to 1.2 and its suber stable and fast. To help make it even more responsive I use Auto Memory Manager (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman) set to Aggressive. I've also used Weapon G2x but prefer CM7.2
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CM7.2 Official with Faux v50 Kernel. I back the OC down from 1.5 to 1.2 and its suber stable and fast. To help make it even more responsive I use Auto Memory Manager (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman) set to Aggressive. I've also used Weapon G2x but prefer CM7.2
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Thanks, I actually flashed 7.2 a few minutes before I read your post How do I flash the new Kernel?
EDIT: Nevermind, got Faux 050 flashed
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CM7.2 Official with Faux v50 Kernel. I back the OC down from 1.5 to 1.2 and its suber stable and fast. To help make it even more responsive I use Auto Memory Manager (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman) set to Aggressive. I've also used Weapon G2x but prefer CM7.2
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CM7.2 (really any CM7 based Rom) is the way to go. Stay away from ICS if you just want everything to work since Nvidia iz not releasing drivers needed for hardware acceleration on the G2x.
Few things to watch out for...
1. Memory managers/app killers are generally a bad idea for stability/battery life
2. Watch what baseband you are on. March2012 has broken bluetooth calling. You may need owain's baseband fix to patch an incompatible rom with your baseband.
3. Some CM7 users have better luck with Morfic's Trinity kernels vs Faux.
4. Lots of overclocking will likely result in stability probs regardless of your Rom/kernel combo (beware of undervolting too)
5. Stock 2.3.4 is now a viable option for stablity. + u could even overclock with Faux's 014b kernel for rooted stock.
6. Read the forums!
Get comfortable with making backups in CWM (oh you shouldn't use CWM Touch - or ROM Manager to flash anything - CWM 5.0.2.0 is fine) That way u can expriment, but restore back if it all starts going to shjt.
hairycheapo said:
CM7.2 (really any CM7 based Rom) is the way to go. Stay away from ICS if you just want everything to work since Nvidia iz not releasing drivers needed for hardware acceleration on the G2x.
Few things to watch out for...
1. Memory managers/app killers are generally a bad idea for stability/battery life
2. Watch what baseband you are on. March2012 has broken bluetooth calling. You may need owain's baseband fix to patch an incompatible rom with your baseband.
3. Some CM7 users have better luck with Morfic's Trinity kernels vs Faux.
4. Lots of overclocking will likely result in stability probs regardless of your Rom/kernel combo (beware of undervolting too)
5. Stock 2.3.4 is now a viable option for stablity. + u could even overclock with Faux's 014b kernel for rooted stock.
6. Read the forums!
Get comfortable with making backups in CWM (oh you shouldn't use CWM Touch - or ROM Manager to flash anything - CWM 5.0.2.0 is fine) That way u can expriment, but restore back if it all starts going to shjt.
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Yup, I've been reading a lot and saw some of the things you've mentioned, but thanks for the ideas.
I haven't touched basebands, should I do anything with them?
I'm on 7.2 Stable, do I need a new kernel to OC/UC? I can't seem to get it to work as nothing comes up when I'm in the CM menus.
I'm familiar with nAndroind backups as I did them religiously on my last Optimus V phone.
EDIT: Nevermind, I flashed Faux 050 now and can OC/UV now.
Looks like you are doing fine. Congrats on figuring out how to flash a Rom/kernel.
Faux 050 stable and CM7 based Temasek rom is what I've been running for weeks now. If you don't have obnoxious static during phone calls (sounds like loud popping) - you don't have a baseband/rom compatibility issue. The baseband is just the firmware that controls the various radios in the device. Some have reported clearer calls and quicker GPS with the new (March 2012) baseband, but the hassle of upgrading to it is - well - a hassle. Also, If you use like to use bluetooth for calls, you need to NOT upgrade...
I am on the new baseband (I don't have blueteeth) and I'll sometimes need to flash the compatibility fix that enables you to run the new baseband with roms designed for the old baseband (or now, for roms/basebands on our international cousin the LG P990). Check owain's Domination thread for his "baseband fix", it will probably come in handy since some roms authors are not clear about whether their rom is for the new or old baseband.
You would just flash the fix through CWM after flashing a Rom, if you find that you have the call sound static...
You might also need a free app called "Get Ril" to fix your Radio Interface Layer. It automatically checks for compatibility and will automatically apply the RIL it detects that you would need if your calling sound has static.
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If you are comfortable with backing-up and restoring Nandroids, don't be afraid to at least sample some of the ICS builds. IMHO we have some awesome developers making the best of things considering the massive handicap that is presented by Nvidia withholding the drivers. ICS is getting more stable all the time. Fixes are now being incorporated that address memory-bleed issues, data-dropping, browser rotation crashes, missing APNs, and various stability improvements. Still probably not "daily driver" for most people, but you could be your own judge...
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Looks like you are doing fine. Congrats on figuring out how to flash a Rom/kernel.
Faux 050 stable and CM7 based Temasek rom is what I've been running for weeks now. If you don't have obnoxious static during phone calls (sounds like loud popping) - you don't have a baseband/rom compatibility issue. The baseband is just the firmware that controls the various radios in the device. Some have reported clearer calls and quicker GPS with the new (March 2012) baseband, but the hassle of upgrading to it is - well - a hassle. Also, If you use like to use bluetooth for calls, you need to NOT upgrade...
I am on the new baseband (I don't have blueteeth) and I'll sometimes need to flash the compatibility fix that enables you to run the new baseband with roms designed for the old baseband (or now, for roms/basebands on our international cousin the LG P990). Check owain's Domination thread for his "baseband fix", it will probably come in handy since some roms authors are not clear about whether their rom is for the new or old baseband.
You would just flash the fix through CWM after flashing a Rom, if you find that you have the call sound static...
You might also need a free app called "Get Ril" to fix your Radio Interface Layer. It automatically checks for compatibility and will automatically apply the RIL it detects that you would need if your calling sound has static.
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If you are comfortable with backing-up and restoring Nandroids, don't be afraid to at least sample some of the ICS builds. IMHO we have some awesome developers making the best of things considering the massive handicap that is presented by Nvidia withholding the drivers. ICS is getting more stable all the time. Fixes are now being incorporated that address memory-bleed issues, data-dropping, browser rotation crashes, missing APNs, and various stability improvements. Still probably not "daily driver" for most people, but you could be your own judge...
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Things seem to be going well with CM7.2+Faux050. I'm waiting till the end of the month for my Virgin Mobile month to end before I start up with T-mobile $30/month plan so I won't know if calls are clear for now. I'll try gVoice sometime soon just to test it though.
EDIT: Once I'm sure this ROM/Kernel is stable I'll do a nAndroid backup and play around with some of the ICS ROMs.
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Things seem to be going well with CM7.2+Faux050. I'm waiting till the end of the month for my Virgin Mobile month to end before I start up with T-mobile $30/month plan so I won't know if calls are clear for now. I'll try gVoice sometime soon just to test it though.
EDIT: Once I'm sure this ROM/Kernel is stable I'll do a nAndroid backup and play around with some of the ICS ROMs.
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I sometimes use GrooveIP with google voice. U 2? Mine works ok and I am thinking of cutting back the number of T-Mobile minutes I pay for each month. Let me know how internet calling works for you...
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I sometimes use GrooveIP with google voice. U 2? Mine works ok and I am thinking of cutting back the number of T-Mobile minutes I pay for each month. Let me know how internet calling works for you...
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I use GrooveIP on my other phone where it doesn't work on 3G b/c VM service is so ridiculously slow. It should work on 4G though, but I won't be able to test until the end of the month.
Gotcha. Be aware too that T-Mobile's "4G" is really more like 3G in most places. I see speeds between 2-5 Mb/s. I really only use my GrooveIP at home on my relatively fast Wi-Fi so I am not going to be the best person to talk to about how well it all works on T-Mobile's data network at our "4G" speeds.
Anyhow, its been good chatting. I gotta get some sleep now. Night...
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Gotcha. Be aware too that T-Mobile's "4G" is really more like 3G in most places. I see speeds between 2-5 Mb/s. I really only use my GrooveIP at home on my relatively fast Wi-Fi so I am not going to be the best person to talk to about how well it all works on T-Mobile's data network at our "4G" speeds.
Anyhow, its been good chatting. I gotta get some sleep now. Night...
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Well, when you come from 100-140kbps 2-5mbps is screaming fast! As long as data is reliable inside buildings around town I'll be a happy camper. It's late here too, but I can't stop playing with my new phone
I spoke too soon... Battery was at 50% a minute ago and now it's stuck on 100%. Tried rebooting and wiping battery stats but no good.
hairycheapo said:
CM7.2 (really any CM7 based Rom) is the way to go. Stay away from ICS if you just want everything to work since Nvidia iz not releasing drivers needed for hardware acceleration on the G2x.
Few things to watch out for...
1. Memory managers/app killers are generally a bad idea for stability/battery life
2. Watch what baseband you are on. March2012 has broken bluetooth calling. You may need owain's baseband fix to patch an incompatible rom with your baseband.
3. Some CM7 users have better luck with Morfic's Trinity kernels vs Faux.
4. Lots of overclocking will likely result in stability probs regardless of your Rom/kernel combo (beware of undervolting too)
5. Stock 2.3.4 is now a viable option for stablity. + u could even overclock with Faux's 014b kernel for rooted stock.
6. Read the forums!
Get comfortable with making backups in CWM (oh you shouldn't use CWM Touch - or ROM Manager to flash anything - CWM 5.0.2.0 is fine) That way u can expriment, but restore back if it all starts going to shjt.
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What's wrong with CWM Touch? I've been using it for the past few months with no problems whatsoever.
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What's wrong with CWM Touch? I've been using it for the past few months with no problems whatsoever.
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There were some problems flashing some things with Touch. I can't remember which right now. Maybe Trinity kernels?
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What's wrong with CWM Touch? I've been using it for the past few months with no problems whatsoever.
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It's the lack of proper ext4 support.
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There were some problems flashing some things with Touch. I can't remember which right now. Maybe Trinity kernels?
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