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[Q] Battery life on standby (NOT in airplane mode)

I seems like we have a discrepancy in how much battery life a TF uses in standby. Some folks seem to be burning <1%/hour, others >3%/hour. Obviously, this makes a huge difference in the total time a TF can be expected to last on a charge.
Please indicate how much yours burns per hour. Please ONLY answer if you run your TF as follows:
1. NOT in airplane mode
2. With wifi in the default (run in background) configuration

What setting is to run wifi in the background?
Also, would the number of apps (singned in) and thinks like exchange emails factor into this?

IIJBII said:
What setting is to run wifi in the background?
Also, would the number of apps (singned in) and thinks like exchange emails factor into this?
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Yep, a lot of things could impact this. But, the dichotomy seems so clear-cut (literally, <1%/hour for some people vs. >3%/hour for others) that I don't think those things by themselves can account for the difference.

wynand32 said:
Yep, a lot of things could impact this. But, the dichotomy seems so clear-cut (literally, <1%/hour for some people vs. >3%/hour for others) that I don't think those things by themselves can account for the difference.
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I understand and agree. There should be some type of baseline. can you explain what Wifi setting you mentioned above? I have 3 options - Sleep when screen is off, Never when plugged in and Never - I know thats not exactly how they read but its something like that.
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IIJBII said:
I understand and agree. There should be some type of baseline. can you explain what Wifi setting you mentioned above? I have 3 options - Sleep when screen is off, Never when plugged in and Never - I know thats not exactly how they read but its something like that.
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The default is to "Never" disconnect...

Dunno how many %/hour, but I've gotten from 14 hours to 17 hours.
Picked up the transformer once in a while, put it down, etc..
Here's a screenshot of the 14hr one, charged it at the end for a few minutes.

wynand32 said:
Yep, a lot of things could impact this. But, the dichotomy seems so clear-cut (literally, <1%/hour for some people vs. >3%/hour for others) that I don't think those things by themselves can account for the difference.
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So you don't think the amount of data being communicated per application affects battery use in idle?
What do you think about signal strength from the WAP? (being further from the WiFi router, in another room, many walls and objects between the unit and the WAP)

FrayAdjacent said:
So you don't think the amount of data being communicated per application affects battery use in idle?
What do you think about signal strength from the WAP? (being further from the WiFi router, in another room, many walls and objects between the unit and the WAP)
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I'm comparing my results to what I'm seeing on the Xoom, which is pretty much identically configured to my TF (same email accounts, same apps installed and running, used with the same routers, etc.). The Xoom uses well under 1%/hour on standby, the TF right around 3.5%/hour.

I'very configured my TF to turn WiFi off when sleeping.
Yesterday my TF was unplugged and unused for a full 24 hours for an 8% battery drain.
Regards,
Davw

The reason there will be discrepencies between peoples devices is because everyone installs different apps. It's these apps that drain the battery more/less, so install a battery monitoring app and check the logs every few days. If you're losing more than 1% on standby per hour, then get a task killer program and tasker, and set up schedules to turn off apps at times you dont need them. Also make sure you have actually set the battery app up properly, by changing the rating it thinks the battery is (to 6600mA) instead of any default value it has.

stuntdouble said:
The reason there will be discrepencies between peoples devices is because everyone installs different apps. It's these apps that drain the battery more/less, so install a battery monitoring app and check the logs every few days. If you're losing more than 1% on standby per hour, then get a task killer program and tasker, and set up schedules to turn off apps at times you dont need them. Also make sure you have actually set the battery app up properly, by changing the rating it thinks the battery is (to 6600mA) instead of any default value it has.
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How would one change the battery to 6600ma instead of the default

dazz87 said:
How would one change the battery to 6600ma instead of the default
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If you are using Battery Monitor Widget then it's from settings>monitoring preferences>battery capacity. Default was 1200mA on mine originally. If you're using some other app, I've no idea.

As an update, I decided to go ahead and do a factory restore, just for kicks. I'm not experiencing much closer standby performance to my Xoom, about 1%/hour or maybe a bit less. In four hours since the restore, I've lost 5% battery life, and that includes a bit of use.
It's possible that the battery just hasn't calibrated since the restore, and so I'll report back if things return to what they were before. At this point, though, I'm hopeful that something was corrupted or misconfigured, and that a factory restore did indeed resolve the issue.

stuntdouble said:
If you are using Battery Monitor Widget then it's from settings>monitoring preferences>battery capacity. Default was 1200mA on mine originally. If you're using some other app, I've no idea.
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Coolthanks for the info will have to check out that app. Right now i am using battery indicator pro whicb does not have a option to change battery capacity

Another update after the factory reset: charged the TF to 100% and unplugged at midnight. At 8:00am this morning it was at 78%, so roughly 2.75%/hour discharge rate. At 10:00am (also only on standby) it was at 74%, so 2.6%/hour total for the 10 hours.
The Xoom was at 48% at 8:00am (forgot to note its battery life at midnight), and at 10:00am (also on standby) was at 47%. So, the Xoom on standby is burning .5%/hour, which has been my general experience with it.
Both the Xoom and the TF are configured with the same email accounts and settings, the same general configuration (wifi, etc.), and the same apps except for the Asus apps. Since my experience on standby was roughly the same with the original (non-updated) TF build, I don't think it's the Asus apps that are causing the burn.
If most others were experiencing the same thing, I'd write this off as a purely academic exercise. 2.5%/hour burn rate on standby isn't terrible, particularly since I tend to charge every night anyways. My concern, though, is that if others are getting <1%/hour with the same basic settings, and as I'm getting on the Xoom for sure, then the question becomes: is there something wrong with my TF specifically?

Well my transformer is doing better than that. I lost only 3 over 5 hours. Overnight from 10 to 10 battery went from 33 to 27 percent so looking at 0.6 % per hour. Btw I have wifi set to turn off with screen off. Why do I need wifi going if I can't see the screen. For mail when would wake the device it checks the accounts immediately. So........
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I've had my TF with me most of the day letting friends play around with it so it's had what I would consider "normal" use.
Starting at 100% this morning when I left and now has 65% after ~8 hours. (See attached screenshot)

I am battery anal too but anyone else feel like discussing a 2% drain difference in idle is kind of ridiculous.. no one runs exactly the same stuff on their devices of course it will be different... to be honest if you are concered about battery drain during idle.. you obviously leave your device unused alot... in which case battery life doesn't matter a great deal cuz you aren't using it hahhha
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nsstrunks said:
I've had my TF with me most of the day letting friends play around with it so it's had what I would consider "normal" use.
Starting at 100% this morning when I left and now has 65% after ~8 hours. (See attached screenshot)
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How did you get battery stats. To work?
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Kaoe said:
I am battery anal too but anyone else feel like discussing a 2% drain difference in idle is kind of ridiculous.. no one runs exactly the same stuff on their devices of course it will be different... to be honest if you are concered about battery drain during idle.. you obviously leave your device unused alot... in which case battery life doesn't matter a great deal cuz you aren't using it hahhha
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Disagree with you. I think standby life is very important because the tablet is something you wanna pickup and have immediate access to for information a nd media without always Worrying if the battery's has enough juice. My nook color can go several days on stby and 3 to 4 days of casual use with standby. This tab doing same stuff is giving me 36 hours tops.
Cm7 on nook color has sleep issues and so doesn't enter deep sleep and so battery drain is about 2% instead of. 2% per hour on stock nook.
maybe our devices aren't sleeping deeply and draining much faster.
Something a Dev. can check?
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Wifi issue?

Ok I think I found an issue with my infinity and need some confirmation. Here is the test. Charge tablet to full. I remove from charger and spend 10-15 minutes browsing the Web. Now check battery usage. Is Wifi your number on power drain? Here is what mine looks like.
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For comparison I used my xoom tablet for 10-15 minutes doing similar activities and my wifi power usage was around 2%.
Also just an FYI I'm not in a strange wifi environment that creates any issues. I'm about 6 feet from my wifi hub and I noticed this usage today after work where wifi was between 50-60% of my total usage and that was on my work wifi.
Anyway I'd be really interested to hear if anyone is seeing a similar issue. I also created a ticket with Asus asking about this issue.

I hope you know that the stock battery stats are very unreliable. Under a better battery stats app, I've found that wifi isn't quite as consuming as apps, so I think the system stats are incorrect
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ethion said:
Ok I think I found an issue with my infinity and need some confirmation. Here is the test. Charge tablet to full. I remove from charger and spend 10-15 minutes browsing the Web. Now check battery usage. Is Wifi your number on power drain? Here is what mine looks like.
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My wifi doesn't even show up. My unit is fine..

Mine has it. I doubt its that big of an issue anyway.
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xRevilatioNx said:
My wifi doesn't even show up. My unit is fine..
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Your is what I'd expect. In fact you got 91% after two hours. That is better than my xoom. This explains why some people claim good performance and battery life. Mine will be below 90% in like 30 minutes usage.
I think there is a wifi issue and this might be a way of identifying bad tablets. I'll see what the ASUS support people say and post it here. The bad news is this looks like a hardware issue...
Before I completely get excited can you make sure your wifi is always on. Go to settings, wifi, advanced, make sure keep wifi on during sleep is always.

xRevilatioNx said:
My wifi doesn't even show up. My unit is fine..
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I was just noticing that you tablet doesn't have the asus icons for back, home, tasks. Are you using a stock infinity for your screen shot?!!

ethion said:
I was just noticing that you tablet doesn't have the asus icons for back, home, tasks. Are you using a stock infinity for your screen shot?!!
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The screenshot is also missing the "ASUS Customzied setting" menu option on the left, right under Apps. Looks like either custom ROM or not an ASUS tablet perhaps.
For what it is worth, I have noticed the same issue with my Wifi eating up tons of battery. I haven't done any tests, but it certainly feels like my battery is draining pretty quickly with Wifi on. It is certainly draining much faster than my TF101....I would expect that to be the case to some extent because of the processor and screen upgrade, but not this much. There is another thread going on TranformerForums about the same issue. Someone reported that leaving their device fully charged with Wifi turned on overnight had drained it down to 19% by morning, with no use.
Not sure yet if this is a real issue, but it seems strange that Wifi would use significantly more battery than Screen.
-Chris

Don't rely on the battery usage screen. It's not like it's got an ammeter coupled to every battery drain. It just calculates percentages based on the information it got, it's all guesswork and needs lot of calibration to be correct. The reason WiFi is blamed as the major drain is probably that it's running all the time (and its power usage might not be calibrated for the battery usage screen). The stats won't know at all if e.g. the kernel gets stuck in an infinite loop and drains the battery...
Personally, I only trust the info the battery usage screen gives me about apps. If an app has a high percentage, it's probably not right. The rest of the breakdown is mostly bogus.

firetech said:
Don't rely on the battery usage screen. It's not like it's got an ammeter coupled to every battery drain. It just calculates percentages based on the information it got, it's all guesswork and needs lot of calibration to be correct. The reason WiFi is blamed as the major drain is probably that it's running all the time (and its power usage might not be calibrated for the battery usage screen). The stats won't know at all if e.g. the kernel gets stuck in an infinite loop and drains the battery...
Personally, I only trust the info the battery usage screen gives me about apps. If an app has a high percentage, it's probably not right. The rest of the breakdown is mostly bogus.
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Well something is eating battery fast.. I have my xoom and my infinity sitting side by side right now and my xoom is at 80% battery after 2:30 hours on while the Infinity is at 62% after 2:41 on. So the infinity is draining battery about twice as fast as my xoom. And the xoom shows the top battery usage as the screen where wifi isn't even making the list.

ethion said:
Ok I think I found an issue with my infinity and need some confirmation. Here is the test. Charge tablet to full. I remove from charger and spend 10-15 minutes browsing the Web. Now check battery usage. Is Wifi your number on power drain? Here is what mine looks like.
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There are already some threads that discuss this topic. The battery meter has a bit of a bug where it shows the WiFi % based on how long the wifi has been connected rather than how much actual power it has used. Mine does the same thing with 85% battery atm but it has been running off of the charger for 1d 13h and still has 37% left.
It is a battery meter issue and not an energy drain issue.

Xoom is now 68% after 3:30
Infinity is now 50% after 3:40

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Xoom is now 68% after 3:30
Infinity is now 50% after 3:40
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Well, the Infinity has more hardware to give power to.
However, my Infinity is at 62% after 10 hours... Most (about 80%) of that time, it's been sleeping (but on), though. Did you actively use both your Xoom and Infinity during the reported time?
How does the detailed battery usage screen (touch the graph in the normal battery usage screen) look? Here's mine (the gap is a reboot):

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firetech said:
Well, the Infinity has more hardware to give power to.
However, my Infinity is at 62% after 10 hours... Most (about 80%) of that time, it's been sleeping (but on), though. Did you actively use both your Xoom and Infinity during the reported time?
How does the detailed battery usage screen (touch the graph in the normal battery usage screen) look? Here's mine (the gap is a reboot):
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Yes I've been kinda using them. I've had them in google plus and swipe around every once in awhile.
I left for lunch and turned them both off.
infinity is now at 40% and xoom is at 55%. a bit over 6 hours since both were pulled off the charger. Screen has been on over 4 hours.

Here is the current status of infinity 37 percent
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Here is the picture of my xoom at 53%

From just eyeballing the two graphs it looks like the infinity sleeps better where my xoom is staying active constantly. None the less when the screen is on the infinity consumes power quite a bit faster.
It is clear that the xoom does quite a bit better on battery life than the infinity.

Mine does this too, but battery life is solid
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Battery Drain
I just got mine yesterday and the battery drain is unexceptionable. I fully charged it last night and then was off and on it this morning before going to work. After getting into the office it was more than 50% drained and before lunch it was well below 30%. I have the TF101 and it hasn't been charged in two days and it is still at 79% with everything turned on.
I have not had a chance to look into this but I find that amount of drainage excessive.
On a side note I pretty much just have the stock apps running on this. I did just do a cold boot so I will see if that helps at all.
Rex

Wifi battery drain

Hi. I'm having a problem. The wifi is draining my battery. My battery will only last about 4 hours of screen on time.
I've already check the power option of disabling wifi when the screen is off. Wifi drains at least 40%of the charge.
I've read other forums but nobody has an answer just yet. I really like this tablet, but it makes me mad just having 4 hours of battery.
Driver problem, an app misbehaving, hardware problem?
What can I do? What should I do? How many of you are having this issue?

mencho said:
Hi. I'm having a problem. The wifi is draining my battery. My battery will only last about 4 hours of screen on time.
I've already check the power option of disabling wifi when the screen is off. Wifi drains at least 40%of the charge.
I've read other forums but nobody has an answer just yet. I really like this tablet, but it makes me mad just having 4 hours of battery.
Driver problem, an app misbehaving, hardware problem?
What can I do? What should I do? How many of you are having this issue?
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Depending on your usage, it is indeed possible to drain battery 3-4 hours. I myself never had that situation but for those who played highly CPU/GPU intensive game along with WIFI had that issue. I usually had 5-6 hours on my routine use which to me seems was not much.
So couple things I believe you should look into.
1. How is your monitor brightness?
2. What applications are you running? e.g. are you downloading on background with playing some game foreground?
Those sort of basic things. To identify whether the WIFI is actual issue or not, one thing you can do is simply turn off the WIFI and do whatever you need for couple hours and see where you at in your battery. If you have 50% drained in couple hours without WIFI on, clearly WIFI is not the issue but if you suddenly get only 20% battery drain from WIFI off, it is indeed the WIFI.
If WIFI is indeed the issue and perhaps you can try Juice Defender but it will only save battery if you are not using WIFI all the time.
For detail, please refer to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805636.
One last thing is obvious, but battery save mode rather than balance mode gave me extra couple hours without sacrifice in my foreground application performance; however, I did notice main screen page swiping or application launch animation weren't as smooth. Almost felt like back to my old Galaxy 10.1 tablet on Honeycomb.

There is actually a bug that makes your battery overview show the percentage of wifi on time as percentage of wifi battery consumption:
-> wifi on 80% of time > shows 80% of power consumption from wifi.
How long do you have your device ?
When i first got it I also thought that the battery time was bad but now ( i have had it for about a week) i get battery drain of 10% / hr while surfing and 14-18 %/hr while streaming video over wifi and 0,5-1% / hr while standby with wifi and sync on.
I have the brightness on manual contorl and when i watch video i change the performance to eco setting.

Hi, thank you for your responses..... This is an update of what is going on.
I am already on firmware. 26, but had the problems since fw. 22
Yesterday I did a factory reset to rule out some mysterious app. The battery issue continued under wifi.
Wifi was still draining between 40 and 50% of the battery. Completely drained in about 4 hours of browsing time in balanced mode and about 40% screen brightness.
I just did another test. I played 2 movies with the wifi off. After 4 hours of screen on time the battery fell to 66%. So the tablet have enough battery juice for 12 back to back movies. That's great, I can rule out the battery.
So far I can confirm that the battery is draining extremely fast with wifi and is not a big showing erroneous battery drain.
4 hours of browsing tine is a joke for a tablet...
Any other things you think I can try?

For how long have you had it? No matter what people say, the calibration algorithms for these kinds of batteries still need several cycles of charging and discharging before they can actually read out any battery level accurately. I easily go for far longer than that on my device -- not that that fact helps you out, I know -- but I thought battery life was worse in he beginning as well. I guess it just needs to settle down a bit. Give it a week.
EIDT: Oh, and....eeehmmmmm.... do not believe the standard Android battery tool. Get yer mitts on BetterBatteryStats and get a few cycles on it, check the readouts and then report back in.
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Thanks. I've already installed better battery stats.. While Web browsing battery drains up to 30%/h. I know is too soon to get to a conclusion. I will keep you post it.
Hope there is some firmware update that will fix this. This is Asus 5th tablet (transformer, prime, slider, tf300) I don't want a beta product!
Sorry about the whining, I know that you guys are helping me..

Battery life is really bad on this we need the motley kernel and some custom rooms soon !!!
I am running this tablet on performance and it is still very slow ccompared to my prime I hoped I can wait for the custom rooms and kernels before I sell this tablet i know i am very impatient

i have a tf700 too and have the same problem on wifi I love this tablet, i think we need to find a fix. Hope to hear from some of the smart people on this forum.

The reason for the low battery is this; Asus did not put a larger battery in Infinity compared to Prime.
Both devices have the exact same battery, but since Infinity runs at a higher clock speed and has a higher resolution screen, it drains the battery much much faster.
You can't really fix this with software. You can however lower the voltage with a custom kernel, making slightly improvement....but that'll also make the device unstable.

Just to let you guys know, i have assigned a fixed ip address for my Tf700 and the wifi drain seems to have decreased. I won't rely on the native android battery monitor (mine still says 85% battery drain by wifi). But i have noticed much less actually drain/hour when using wifi with a fixed ip address than not. YMMV.

Battery sucks! Faulty unit or crappy software? HELP

I have used this tablet for 2 days now and almost everything works perfect (thanks to latest ota) but there's one thing that is bothering me. Battery life. I had ipad 3 for 2 months but I finally sold it and bought the infinity. Now I know ios sucks on phones AND tablets. But the battery life was amazing. I could use it to browse and for games for 9 hours at least. But on the infinity I am lucky if I get 4 hours browsing. 4 hours sucks on a tablet. But I think that wifi is the problem. I have added 2 pictures were you can see I used the tablet for 1 hour last night then I used it for almost 3 more hours today. Now the battery is at 10%. But I was wondering why the battery uses 62%? On my galaxy nexus wifi is using 5%.
Have I got a faulty unit or is it like this for everyone? If so please let me know fast so I can send it back before it's too late.

Somethings not right there. Tests/reviews done by some major outlets (thinking PC World or Engadget) reported 9 hours of video play over wifi with screen at 50% brightness. iOS has always had good battery life due to their stict contols over the OS, but you should be seeing more then 4 hours. Hell I was at 40% and played WindUp Knight for hours straight last night which takes up much more battery then a movie. I usually don't suggest using task managers, but there is one built in by asus, I'd use it and see if you can kill some processes. Also be mindful which profile is being used. I stick to balanced most of the time and switch to low when the battery starts getting low (24%ish)
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/25/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700-review/
The TF700 packs a 25Wh battery rated for up to nine and a half hours of runtime. Indeed, it lasted nine hours and 25 in our battery rundown test, which involves looping a video with WiFi on and the brightness fixed at 50 percent.
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Thanks for the reply. I am always on Balanced and i am seeing over 20% down in an hour. Maybe i have a faulty unit?

I wouldn't be so sure. I was playing nova 3 on performance mode though.

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I wouldn't be so sure. I was playing nova 3 on performance mode though.
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Hmm so i'm not the only one. I hope Asus fixes this fast or im gonna have to return, but i can't see any tablet better then this atm.

armanisafarai said:
Hmm so i'm not the only one. I hope Asus fixes this fast or im gonna have to return, but i can't see any tablet better then this atm.
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Well, what do you expect? It's going to take some power to push all the pixels on this massive resolution.

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Well, what do you expect? It's going to take some power to push all the pixels on this massive resolution.
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Exactly, it all depends on what your doing OP. The movie scenerio in the review doesnt take much juice in that it uses the low power single core. I don't know for sure, but web browsing may require all 4 cores to kick in depending on exactly what your doing. Regardless, your wifi being a big consumer is easy to deal with. Somewhere in the settings is an option that automatically turns wifi off when screen is off.

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Exactly, it all depends on what your doing OP. The movie scenerio in the review doesnt take much juice in that it uses the low power single core. I don't know for sure, but web browsing may require all 4 cores to kick in depending on exactly what your doing. Regardless, your wifi being a big consumer is easy to deal with. Somewhere in the settings is an option that automatically turns wifi off when screen is off.
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Well, all i was doing was using chrome... I think it's pretty bad when i cant browse for more then 4 hours on a tablet. I thought it had to do something with WiFi since its using over 62%. I did the same test with my nexus where i i just used chrome and when i looked in battery , wifi only used 10%. Maybe there is a bug with wifi?

Try Battery HD for some averages/estimates.
I tend to get about 9+ hrs of reading, balanced mode, WiFi off, and about 7 hrs of browsing over WiFi (undocked, dock charges me about 2/3 full), but it all drops down drastically for gaming, which is about 4 hrs you mentioned.
If you get 4 hrs of pure browsing, I'd consider re-flashing, wiping data and - if these don't help - returning your device.

Chief Geek's point has much merit, and you could always look at (for example) GreenPower or some other time-/screen-based toggler. They do pretty well, and you do not even lose out anything except direct push functionality. (Does it really matter for 99.9% of mail when it comes in once every 15 or 30 minutes? When it does (when you're buying a house or something), shut down the toggler for the time being and cope with some battery drain, then when the situation has resolved, enable it again.
And try using BetterBatterStats for your statistics -- the main battery stat app Android offers has some quirks to prevent meaningful interpretations of many scenarios. Let that get a few charging/discharging cycles and then look at the stats.

So battery hd tells me I should get 8 hours of browsing and 9 for video playback. Will do another test tomorrow with screen on whole time and see how long it will last watching videos. Also battery hd tells me I can play 3d games for only 2 hours. Eh

MartyHulskemper said:
Chief Geek's point has much merit, and you could always look at (for example) GreenPower or some other time-/screen-based toggler. They do pretty well, and you do not even lose out anything except direct push functionality. (Does it really matter for 99.9% of mail when it comes in once every 15 or 30 minutes? When it does (when you're buying a house or something), shut down the toggler for the time being and cope with some battery drain, then when the situation has resolved, enable it again.
And try using BetterBatterStats for your statistics -- the main battery stat app Android offers has some quirks to prevent meaningful interpretations of many scenarios. Let that get a few charging/discharging cycles and then look at the stats.
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I installed betterbatterystats last night, will do more testing.

armanisafarai said:
So battery hd tells me I should get 8 hours of browsing and 9 for video playback. Will do another test tomorrow with screen on whole time and see how long it will last watching videos. Also battery hd tells me I can play 3d games for only 2 hours. Eh
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Remember that these are just averages for your device, at least in the beginning.

If you mistreated your battery upon receiving it, it can kill battery life. You are suppose to plug in your asus tablet for at least 8 hours (well beyond the tablet would say the battery is 100%) the first time you get it. This is sound advice for any new Lithium Ion Battery.
Then you can start using it. Letting the battery die at 0% also decrease the life of the Li-Ion battery every time it happens (ignore old sites that say you should do a full discharge cycle every 2 weeks, that was for old Nickel Cadmium batteries).
Juice Defender is typically a phone app but you can run it as well to detect if any background processes are eating up your battery life.
I get almost 10 hours on my TF700 with moderate usage (mix of browsing, video playback, reading, etc.).

Diogenes5 said:
If you mistreated your battery upon receiving it, it can kill battery life. You are suppose to plug in your asus tablet for at least 8 hours (well beyond the tablet would say the battery is 100%) the first time you get it. This is sound advice for any new Lithium Ion Battery.
Then you can start using it. Letting the battery die at 0% also decrease the life of the Li-Ion battery every time it happens (ignore old sites that say you should do a full discharge cycle every 2 weeks, that was for old Nickel Cadmium batteries).
Juice Defender is typically a phone app but you can run it as well to detect if any background processes are eating up your battery life.
I get almost 10 hours on my TF700 with moderate usage (mix of browsing, video playback, reading, etc.).
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All correct -- there is a lot of disinformation going on with batteries (especially regarding the charging cycles, although a single, long, full charge and then draining to zero charge actually helps calibrate the battery indication algorithms in the device). The optimum minimum charge level seems to be about 40% or so I've read.
Juice Defender and Greenpower toggle WiFi on either time- or location-based profiles, and that works on tablets as well. Recommended!

Your phone doesnt actually discharge a battery to zero. The thing with lithium batteries is they maintain voltage untill nearly the end. This is a very large benifit for modern devices. Once the voltage starts to drop the phones circuitry cuts it off and prevents it from powering on with the LVC circuit that checks the battery before allowing phone to power on then immeditately cuts it (first attempting a power down then all out power cut). This happens to protect the battery. So what the phone considers a dead battery is simply an exhausted battery ready for charge. If a lithium is actually dischardged completely it will damage the cell and prevent it from taking a charge. The power being given to it is then converted to heat. The battery then ignites and very very bad things happen such as your house burning down. The point of all that is to point out that discharging your phone to "zero" isn't actually doing any damage past the normal wear and tear on the battery. I buy batteries that cost hundreds for some of my RC hobbies and have learned the hard way about how lithium batteries work. (bypassed LVC and ruined a $80 3S2P pack)

Diogenes5 said:
If you mistreated your battery upon receiving it, it can kill battery life. You are suppose to plug in your asus tablet for at least 8 hours (well beyond the tablet would say the battery is 100%) the first time you get it. This is sound advice for any new Lithium Ion Battery.
Then you can start using it. Letting the battery die at 0% also decrease the life of the Li-Ion battery every time it happens (ignore old sites that say you should do a full discharge cycle every 2 weeks, that was for old Nickel Cadmium batteries).
Juice Defender is typically a phone app but you can run it as well to detect if any background processes are eating up your battery life.
I get almost 10 hours on my TF700 with moderate usage (mix of browsing, video playback, reading, etc.).
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i have actually read that Li-Ion batteries can be used out of the box. Sp i turned on my infinity right away. I put the charger in, but i still used the tablet. It was about 25% when i got it out of the box. So what you're saying is that i have basically ****ed up the battery? If so, then i will return and get a new one. But i dont understand why most people say that you can usre a device with Li-Ion battery staright out of the box without needing to charge it first.

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Your phone doesnt actually discharge a battery to zero. The thing with lithium batteries is they maintain voltage untill nearly the end. This is a very large benifit for modern devices. Once the voltage starts to drop the phones circuitry cuts it off and prevents it from powering on with the LVC circuit that checks the battery before allowing phone to power on then immeditately cuts it (first attempting a power down then all out power cut). This happens to protect the battery. So what the phone considers a dead battery is simply an exhausted battery ready for charge. If a lithium is actually dischardged completely it will damage the cell and prevent it from taking a charge. The power being given to it is then converted to heat. The battery then ignites and very very bad things happen such as your house burning down. The point of all that is to point out that discharging your phone to "zero" isn't actually doing any damage past the normal wear and tear on the battery. I buy batteries that cost hundreds for some of my RC hobbies and have learned the hard way about how lithium batteries work. (bypassed LVC and ruined a $80 3S2P pack)
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Nothing to add, technical and extensive, but fully correct, sir. I think we may have had a slight misunderstanding, however: my point was that discharging your phone to 'zero' (and as you rightfully point out, that is not an actual fully discharged battery state) is a required step in calibrating most device's algorithms (some devices, such as my SGS2 do not need this because of advanced hardware). I'd rather not fully discharge any Li-Ion batteries either.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

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i have actually read that Li-Ion batteries can be used out of the box. Sp i turned on my infinity right away. I put the charger in, but i still used the tablet. It was about 25% when i got it out of the box. So what you're saying is that i have basically ****ed up the battery? If so, then i will return and get a new one. But i dont understand why most people say that you can usre a device with Li-Ion battery staright out of the box without needing to charge it first.
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A typical case of RTFM, an affliction I sometimes suffer from as well, as do most men. Hahaha! Do you think ASUS put it in the manual for laughs, or just to give you a few more hours of painful desire to use your device while you cannot, yet? Nah, it's there for a reason. Sometimes, though -- and again that's SGS2 experience -- just running a few battery cycles might make the readout correspond to the actual battery level again. You could at least give it a try, right?
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T

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I have used this tablet for 2 days now and almost everything works perfect (thanks to latest ota) but there's one thing that is bothering me. Battery life. I had ipad 3 for 2 months but I finally sold it and bought the infinity. Now I know ios sucks on phones AND tablets. But the battery life was amazing. I could use it to browse and for games for 9 hours at least. But on the infinity I am lucky if I get 4 hours browsing. 4 hours sucks on a tablet. But I think that wifi is the problem. I have added 2 pictures were you can see I used the tablet for 1 hour last night then I used it for almost 3 more hours today. Now the battery is at 10%. But I was wondering why the battery uses 62%? On my galaxy nexus wifi is using 5%.
Have I got a faulty unit or is it like this for everyone? If so please let me know fast so I can send it back before it's too late.
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I see the same picture here. Looking at the battery stats I see WIFI using >90% of the battery when surfing in balanced/50% backligt mode.
Hope they fix this.

[Q] Weak Battery

Hello,
I'm new here and have a quest about my new tablet
I bought the Transformer Pad Infinit a few days ago and I think that I could use the battery for 9 hours more or less.
But my battery is extremely weak, I just use this 3 or 4 hours with the GPS off and bluetooth off too. The wi-fi is just on in the half of this time, and waht I do in this time is play some games and use the internet. I use the "Energy Economy" mode all this time and the light of the screen is in 20%.
I guess my battery is more weak than others... What can I do to "fix" it?
I would to say "thanks" for everyone, and I'm sorry by my english, I don't know english so well

The battery in your Infinity may be not charging to 100%.
I don't get 9 hours with moderate use...I see around 6 hours.
My wifi and GPS are always on and the screen is about 30%.
The batteries aren't supposed to have "memory" meaning: they should be able to be charged over and over from any discharge level back to a full charge.
There also might be something running in the background that is taking down your battery charge.
Have you browsed the battery saving tips in the stickies here in the TF700T forums?
Is your Infinity the LTE version by any chance?
Some info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30223933&postcount=2

Thats OK said:
The battery in your Infinity may be not charging to 100%.
I don't get 9 hours with moderate use...I see around 6 hours.
My wifi and GPS are always on and the screen is about 30%.
The batteries aren't supposed to have "memory" meaning: they should be able to be charged over and over from any discharge level back to a full charge.
There also might be something running in the background that is taking down your battery charge.
Have browsed the battery saving tips in the stickies here in the TF700T forums?
Is your Infinity the LTE version by any chance?
Some info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30223933&postcount=2
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First: Thanks
I search in the internet and I found that the Li-Ion batteries have to charge arround 30%~50%. I do it much times.
I was using a animed wallpapers and I change it by a normal wallpapers. I guess this make some efecty
I search here in the forum too, things about the battery saving, I found somethings that can be helpful, but no "so beautiful"
I don't have the LTE version, I guess nobody have it, Asus is so stupid when we talk about "3G/4G"
I don't know why, but mysteriously, the tablet use about 600mb of RAM and also nothing is running, just the things of the systen.
I guess it's strange, maybe that interfere in the battery life no? But how can I "fix" it? SImply have notthing running and 600mb of RAM are in use.
Thanks again, and again: sorry by my english

Otobone said:
First: Thanks
I was using a animed wallpapers and I change it by a normal wallpapers. I guess this make some efecty
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Yes, animated wallpapers definitely use more battery than static ones.
Otobone said:
I don't know why, but mysteriously, the tablet use about 600mb of RAM and also nothing is running, just the things of the systen.
I guess it's strange, maybe that interfere in the battery life no? But how can I "fix" it? SImply have notthing running and 600mb of RAM are in use.
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That's OK. Unused RAM is wasted RAM, and unused RAM uses exactly the same amount of battery as used RAM, so no need to fix anything here. Interesting for battery use is CPU utilization by running processes.

I have to admit the battery life is not brilliant on this tablet. It very much depends on the usage, this wasn't really the case with previous LEAST powerful galaxy tab 8.9. Even during playing games it easily lasted 8-9 hours.
Worst infinity battery times observed ( balanced mode, brightens < 30% )
- playing hard core 3d games, like dead tigger, battery dead in 3-4 hours
- playing less intensive games, battery dead in 5-6 hours
- browsing battery dead in 7-8 hours.
- watching movies, battery dead in 8-9 hours.
so anything between 3-9 hours can be normal with infinity. I cannot even imaging battery life in performance mode, IPS+ full brightens

I was with fear, 'cause for a moment thought that my battery was the only one that is "not so beautiful" But I saw that is not a problem with my tablet and yes with this model.
I'm Brazilian, here the Asus is a perfect nothing. Here we have just the TF101 who comes with 1 year delayed. So I buy the tablet in other country and I don't have warrancy, if my battery was with some problem I don't know what I would.
Here if I call to Asus they would hit the phone in my face before I can say "Transformer"

Otobone said:
I was with fear, 'cause for a moment thought that my battery was the only one that is "not so beautiful" But I saw that is not a problem with my tablet and yes with this model.
I'm Brazilian, here the Asus is a perfect nothing. Here we have just the TF101 who comes with 1 year delayed. So I buy the tablet in other country and I don't have warrancy, if my battery was with some problem I don't know what I would.
Here if I call to Asus they would hit the phone in my face before I can say "Transformer"
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Ummm...
So you ... own the Asus Infinity TF700T?...or the TF201?
...don't get hit in the face please!...especially with a phone...maybe a small phone wouldn't hurt a lot.
I hope your face doesn't get hit though...

God I love Google Translate... :laugh:
Asus very clearly says "Battery life tested under power saving mode, playing 720p video playback, Brightness:100nits, default volume with headphones." on their website. If you try something else, you'll get different results. Basic scientific fact.
Also, I can't stress this enough: Kill off all bloatware! No you don't need to root the tablet for it (most of it, anyway.) The more processes you run in the background, the more power they consume. Simple as that.
And WiFi EATS battery like you wouldn't believe. It's so horrible it's not even funny. The WiFi unit is very powerful, which is why it eats so much. So yes, using WiFi will eat your battery.
andoid uses RAM differently than Windows. Forget how it works there. Android reserves RAM for processes, even when they're not in use.
Could be the Google Location bug? there's info on that here somewhere too.
Go to settings --> Battery and see what uses the most percentage.