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These days smartphones have gotten plenty small to carry normally. so why don't they beef them up with a ginormous batt and make it a selling point?
I think the SGS is the smallest big screened smartphone. If they were to make it Evo sized, double the batt life and sell it as a completely different phone, that would be great! I mean I would think it would be some major bragging right to say "our phone has 200% the batt life of the next best phone".
10 hours of full 3G web browsing/GPS/video playback
70hrs+ of audio playback
on top of all that, maximum batt life deterioration over time will be null because you'll go through MANY fewer recharge cycles.
These phones are all great, but I'm a power user and I'm always fighting my batt. We should be able to have all the bells and whistles blowing at all times.
Thanks for your time/response
Edit: the new iPod has a 3400mah batt. Coupled with the "Peal" which turns the iPod into an iPhone (albeit an ugly one), you basically get an iPhone 4 with double the batt life in a similar sized package...
Edit: I'm dead wrong about the iPod's batt capacity as rajendra82 has pointed out. It was 3.4 watt hour, not 3.4 amp hours. Sorry (for the record, the iPod's batt would be terribly insufficient as a modern phone batt in a smartphone)
eatkabab said:
These days smartphones have gotten plenty small to carry normally. so why don't they beef them up with a ginormous batt and make it a selling point?
I think the SGS is the smallest big screened smartphone. If they were to make it Evo sized, double the batt life and sell it as a completely different phone, that would be great! I mean I would think it would be some major bragging right to say "our phone has 200% the batt life of the next best phone".
10 hours of full 3G web browsing/GPS/video playback
70hrs+ of audio playback
on top of all that, maximum batt life deterioration over time will be null because you'll go through MANY fewer recharge cycles.
These phones are all great, but I'm a power user and I'm always fighting my batt. We should be able to have all the bells and whistles blowing at all times.
Thanks for your time/response
Edit: the new iPod has a 3400mah batt. Coupled with the "Peal" which turns the iPod into an iPhone (albeit an ugly one), you basically get an iPhone 4 with double the batt life in a similar sized package... sigh...
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The new iPOD touch has a 3.44 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 929 mAh. The Samsung Captivate has a 5.55 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 1500 mAh. Since the battery capacity is directly proportional to the volume, a battery of 3000 mAh will be twice as big as our current battery. The biggest phones today (i.e., the EVO and Droid X) only ship with a 1300 mAh battery. 1500 mAH is plenty for this phone to get through the day. Battery life is typically rated at 1000 cycles, which is 3 years assuming a full day to go from 100% to 0%. You are likely to replace the phone in 3 years any way.
Our phones do have large batteries, and as long as you don't have a bad program, have the screen on super bright, or use it as a hot spot, the battery life is going to be good enough for nearly anyone.
The captivate has a HUGE percent of the volume dedicated to the battery already, without using a non standard (non rectangular prism) battery shape the phone thickness would need to greatly increase and have wasted space.
In simpler terms, when your battery is already good for the market, a thinner phone sells more than a marginal battery lfie increase.
What about weight? Does a bigger battery weigh significantly more?
I would love to have a bigger battery or one of those battery cases like my fiancee has for her iphone. I think the above comments are spot on, but i think what companies dont take into account is how much people use their phones for on a daily basis. I dont know about you, but I use my phone a hell of a lot during the day more so than what constitutes as 'just getting through the day'. If im lucky enough to make it through till the end of the day its skirting on the red. A backup battery would be awesome to have!
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The new iPOD touch has a 3.44 Wh battery, which at 3.7 V translates to 929 mAh.
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Sorry, I just realized that. I must have missed the details about the ipod power.
I understand that the captivate technically has the "best" battery, but I do not agree that it will last through the day. I'm using my phone regularly to look up information, text, Gtalk, and make many calls. The phone is dead by the time I get home around 6pm (days start around 7:30am).
the iPad has a "10 hour batt life". My sister has her iPad lying around the house but she and I are much more often on our phones, so why don't our phones have a 10 hour batt life? I think its kinda difficult to use the ipad for 10 hours in a single day seeing that people usually work too. My phone is used for productive purposes usually, so it is very easy to drain it in the 4.5hrs it lasts on any day (not to mention difficult to get through an 8hr plane ride and still have juice to find your way to the hotel when you land). Last I checked, a day was at least 8 hours, not 4.5.
I also realize that they would have to ditch the rectangle/cube form factor of the batt in order to fill the space of a larger case more efficiently (something the iphone takes advantage of). I have nothing against this (or the added weight) and I don't think any other power user would care either.
At the end of the day, a captivate thats as big and heavy as the Evo is a small compromise if it'll last ALL day long and I believe there is a significant market for Android+10hr batt. Unfortunately, the obvious response to that is that I'm wrong since it doesn't exist. So I guess I'm just a crazy person then
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Edit: I forgot to mention Virgin America has solved all flying problems with this nifty little thing called a power receptacle in each trio of seats.
There have been at least 10 different claims in the last 5-10 years from companys saying they've found a way to at least triple battery capacity.
so far none of them have made anything...
Have you ever seen those extended batteries that also replace the back cover? They look awful. It's great that the Captivate is so slim and light.
It's unlikely that enough people need that much power every day for manufacturers to implement a huge battery in every device.
Nevertheless, it would be great to have the option.
Third party batteries that replace the back cover haven't been designed by the manufacturer to take advantage of all the space available, they're just made afterwards for the (admittedly few) people who need to stay more than 12hrs without a power source.
If a manufacturer specifically made a phone to accomodate a larger battery, the uglyness+volume/duration ratio would be much better.
Imagine a qwerty slider with a large battery instead of the keyboard: you could live with the additional volume and you could go on for two full days without a powersource.
Personally I wouldn't ever make it without a car charger, I keep a spare battery around in case I need it and even carry a retractable microUSB as a key holder (I use my phone as a music player, the battery drains FAST).
I'm ok with that but a large capacity batt. would let me not have to care about how much juice I have left all the time, wich would be great.
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At the end of the day, a captivate thats as big and heavy as the Evo is a small compromise if it'll last ALL day long and I believe there is a significant market for Android+10hr batt. Unfortunately, the obvious response to that is that I'm wrong since it doesn't exist. So I guess I'm just a crazy person then
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You're not crazy. I think about the smartphone battery problem all the time. It's by far the biggest drawback of a smartphone. Even if you are using it lightly, you still have to charge every night, that is smartphone 101. And yet, if my friend iwth a little feature phone texts me all day, and I text them back all day, there phone... is fine. They can bascially run it all day for three days before needing to charge when it's new. My Captivate (or any other smartphone)... constantly having the screen on? It would be begging for battery after hours. Now of course, we have vastly better batteries than the feature phone, it's just the smartphone is doing significantly more. But still, yes, there should be a way, possibly with non-rectangular batteries, to significantly (at least double) battery life at a not massive cost to form factor and size. And yes, I'm sure there is a market here as well.
Seido is in the development process for a 3200mA battery for the cappy. Won't be long before you can actually see what it looks like on their website
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This may be about the captivate battery life but I think some of u are crazy. I run the hybrid r3 rom on my phone and I use it for music; GPS; internet and everything else that is normal and my battery is garbage. I'm sorry but when I buy a phone it should not be dead by like 3 pm
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Bigger battery means more weight. Some manufacturers get a little more power out of the same physical size, but if you really want to double the battery, you double the size and double the weight.
Since the phones have no extra room inside, you wind up with a bigger phone.
All manufacturers are trying to balance size, weight and power. It is no coincidence that all the smartphones have near the same size battery.
ColbyRyptos said:
This may be about the captivate battery life but I think some of u are crazy. I run the hybrid r3 rom on my phone and I use it for music; GPS; internet and everything else that is normal and my battery is garbage. I'm sorry but when I buy a phone it should not be dead by like 3 pm
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This post pretty much leads me to believe more is going on than you're saying. With hybrid r3 I was getting two days with heavy usage, also gps isn't functional on that rom, so claiming to use it seems to be misinformed at best
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Seido is in the development process for a 3200mA battery for the cappy. Won't be long before you can actually see what it looks like on their website
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Seido might make some great batteries, but if the batt for the captivate is ANYTHING like the batt for the galaxy S, its absolutely retarded and WAY too big to be practical. They basically just extended the batt brick and extended the casing with it. With the same batt cover, they could have added a whole nother batt right next to the extended batt cuz of all the wasted space.
Not a viable solution IMO. A factory made phone that has a HUGE batt would be marginally larger than the current captivate because they can take advantage of a non-traditional form factor and all the space inside.
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Seido might make some great batteries, but if the batt for the captivate is ANYTHING like the batt for the galaxy S, its absolutely retarded and WAY too big to be practical. They basically just extended the batt brick and extended the casing with it. With the same batt cover, they could have added a whole nother batt right next to the extended batt cuz of all the wasted space.
Not a viable solution IMO. A factory made phone that has a HUGE batt would be marginally larger than the current captivate because they can take advantage of a non-traditional form factor and all the space inside.
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Our Captivate doesn't have any extra space, and even the Droid X has a battery of the same size. I am just not seeing the extra space for bigger battery. There is also the weight issue.
Now if maybe the new Dell Streak will give you a monster battery in that big thing.
i agree that a phone with a super battery pack would be nice. me and my friends would always talk about if we could make our own phones what we would want and i always said something that would give me nice battery life so the idea i came up with was this
by default most phones come with a 1500 mah battery
but why not add a non traditional form factor to the rest of the case adding battery to and around the phone like in the area around the camera in the front of the phone around the side of the phone kinda like some of this battery jackets we see coming out for the iphone 4
i think it would add maybe just a built more bulk to the phone i'm still using a tilt so i'm used to carryin a bulky phone
i've always been interested in seeing super cap or ultra cap tech being put into a smartphone figuring if we can't go all day with our battery at least let us be able to get a full charge with in a few minutes ya know
i see ultra and super cap tech starting to be put in remotes were you can charge it in 1 minute to 5 minutes and not have to charge it for two weeks that kinda tech in a cell would be lovely
I, for one, would give up the cool looking indent in the back of the captivate (where the metal cover is) if they would fill that space with battery. It wouldn't increase the size of the phone (much), wouldn't make it bulgy, and I could see it giving at least 50% better battery life.
Even if the phone was blobby, plenty of people are buying Droid phones, and those things are frikin' mon calamari cruisers.
alphadog00 said:
Our Captivate doesn't have any extra space, and even the Droid X has a battery of the same size. I am just not seeing the extra space for bigger battery. There is also the weight issue.
Now if maybe the new Dell Streak will give you a monster battery in that big thing.
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obviously they would have to make the phone a tad thicker and its already so light weight that adding double the batt weight would still keep it weighing less than an Evo
the Samsung Captivate battery is pretty beefy if you ask me, I don't know how they would fit a processor and other components in the phone if they got a bigger battery
the battery life. I mean 1230 isn't small compared to iPhone 3G that I currently have, so I'd assume it would last longer. I hope.
are there programs to optimize battery life? I've never used android and don't know hardly anything about custom stuff. I browse the web and check Facebook pretty often during the day (got to kill time on bus rides to class) as well as music and texting often. I'm a little worried about how the battery will fair for me :/
Anyone know if there are extended batteries for this? (I'd also assume that the one for the DHD fits as well)
I have seen 1600 batteries for the Desire HD so maybe they will work for the inspire
I totally agree. My ONLY reservation about the Inspire is the pint-sized battery!
I've had discussions on other boards about this exact issue, and there are some Inspire lovers who are so attached to this phone they feel offended when I try holding their feet to the fire during discussions regarding the battery life.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that even though most people who have already decided to buy the Inspire don't have any reservations about the battery life, I still do. But hopefully more info will come out regarding the lightweight battery. Then I hope we all can make a better decision on whether or not to get this phone!
I am certainly not going to let the battery size affect my decision.
I have seen many reviews all stating 10-12 hours with heavy use, it seems they have optimized this phone since the original desire HD
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I am certainly not going to let the battery size affect my decision.
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Thats pretty much how I feel about it, this phone is pretty damn fast and for 99 bucks it's a hell of a deal!
1200 mah battery?
That's gonna go fast with android....unless you take the "smart" out of smartphone (eg. Disabling 3g, auto-sync, email fetching etc.)
If you get this phone, an extended battery seems a must.....
Especialy since you're new with android. The iphone "just works" compared with android...you have to put your own tweaks here and there to make it your version of "perfect", but that's what makes android android
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A_Flying_Fox said:
1200 mah battery?
That's gonna go fast with android....unless you take the "smart" out of smartphone (eg. Disabling 3g, auto-sync, email fetching etc.)
If you get this phone, an extended battery seems a must.....
Especialy since you're new with android. The iphone "just works" compared with android...you have to put your own tweaks here and there to make it your version of "perfect", but that's what makes android android
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I love all the subjective guessing around here, watch some reviews read some reviews everyone has stated 10-12 hour battery life with moderate to heavy use, dont just assume because of the millwatt hours that it will automatically suck, and dont compare it to previous models because there has been some optimization
Officially, the battery is said to provide up to 6 hours of talk time and as much as 15.5 days of standby. Those are pretty amazing estimates for such a small battery. In our tests the Inspire 4G was able to provide 10-11 hours of use – including making a bunch of voice calls (some longer than 15 minutes), watching live-streaming TV news feeds, checking and answering my emails every 5 minutes or so, having the built-in GPS help find a friend’s location and even playing a few games of Solitaire. HTC is doing something right with squeezing so much from such a compact battery pack.
http://thefastertimes.com/cellphones/2011/02/03/atts-inspire-4g-a-top-tier-android-at-a-good-price/
This is just one review of the many
Im sure there will be an extended battery for this phone. it makes no sense not to make one! and htc has been good so far so why not build an extended battery.
I've been testing this phone since late last week and can say that the battery live is comparable to most other android handsets currently on the market. If you're a heavy user, don't expect to get more than 9-12 hours out of the battery.
The longest the battery has lasted for me was 25 hours. On Saturday I used to phone pretty lightly (2 phone calls, a couple text messages, checked twitter throughout the day, downloaded 700MB worth of files for Dungeon Defenders over Wi-Fi, and played the game for about 30 minutes). When I went to bed, the phone was at 13% battery life, but I left it unplugged overnight to see if it would last until the morning. With all notifications and sync still on, the Inspire still had 3% battery life when I woke up 9 hours later.
I'd imaging if I didn't download 700BM of data the phone would have lasted much longer under "light use."
AndreaCristiano said:
I have seen many reviews all stating 10-12 hours with heavy use, it seems they have optimized this phone since the original desire HD
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"Optimized" what do you mean? Is there proof that ATT optimized the rom to run longer then the original Desire HD?
The battery size isn't going to keep me away but i just like to know. I also noticed that the inspire has SLCD instead LCD in the DHD. Will the super lcd screen give a better battery life?
Eventhough, extended battery is released, how will it fit into the phone. Is there enough room for a larger battery. This phone will be my next sucessor to my nexus one. It will do til the next real Nexus. I just love the unibody style.
AndreaCristiano said:
I love all the subjective guessing around here, watch some reviews read some reviews everyone has stated 10-12 hour battery life with moderate to heavy use, dont just assume because of the millwatt hours that it will automatically suck, and dont compare it to previous models because there has been some optimization
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I love all the baseless justification for a retarded consumer move to save money.
Htc always has to mess something up in their phones.
This time, luckily, its only the battery which can be easily replaced
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I love all the baseless justification for a retarded consumer move to save money.
Htc always has to mess something up in their phones.
This time, luckily, its only the battery which can be easily replaced
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meanwhile there are posts from nick above from HTC source and he actually has the phone and he states over and over 9-12 hours heavy use.
ok guys, I'm very excited about getting this phone. But I don't really want buyer's remorse, so help convince me 100%!
to be honest, I like having the latest and greatest phone. I constantly monitor the tech world (Gizmodo and Engadget are my top two pages on Chrome!), but coming from a 18 month old 3G iphone, pretty much anything now is an upgrade. I just don't want to regret getting this and being locked in for two years while the "future" is released in half a month afterwards. So justify the things holding me back:
screen resolution
battery
single core Scorpion
no sideloading
if you guys could kindly help me out, it would be greatly appreciated!
antioch216 said:
ok guys, I'm very excited about getting this phone. But I don't really want buyer's remorse, so help convince me 100%!
to be honest, I like having the latest and greatest phone. I constantly monitor the tech world (Gizmodo and Engadget are my top two pages on Chrome!), but coming from a 18 month old 3G iphone, pretty much anything now is an upgrade. I just don't want to regret getting this and being locked in for two years while the "future" is released in half a month afterwards. So justify the things holding me back:
screen resolution
battery
single core Scorpion
no sideloading
if you guys could kindly help me out, it would be greatly appreciated!
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well the supposedly great qHD screen on the atrix has been having some none pleasant reviews with colors and app recreation. The superamoled on samsungs has burn in and doesnt save battery so the SuperLCD doesnt look that bad huh?
Battery has been consistently getting 9-12 hours heavy use by many reviewers
the processor in the inspire is pulling 1976 quadrant scores bone stock
sideloading really not a big deal, use airplane mode or sideload wonder machine
any questions?
nope thanks man, I'm 99% sold! I just need to google what side load wonder machine is lol. I'm loving the build quality and support from HTC and you guys here, though I've never rooted or flashed or anything. Guess I'll start learning
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nope thanks man, I'm 99% sold! I just need to google what side load wonder machine is lol. I'm loving the build quality and support from HTC and you guys here, though I've never rooted or flashed or anything. Guess I'll start learning
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side load wonder machine is from android central and it allows you to sideload apps on AT&T phones that dont allow it. PS theres a thread in one of the Inspire sections on here
ah, sounds sweet. I'm getting excited. Though, I'll probably wait for MWC to at least happen in case they surprise us. And one last question I think, anyone have pictures or a source of the 2 different colors they have?
antioch216 said:
ah, sounds sweet. I'm getting excited. Though, I'll probably wait for MWC to at least happen in case they surprise us. And one last question I think, anyone have pictures or a source of the 2 different colors they have?
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its weird at CES they showed a bronze color if you check out the videos you will see but now they are all black, im thinking CES was a desire HD with AT&T logo on the back, thats also why they didnt allow you to turn on the phone
So I currently have a thunderbolt, and to be honest, I am technically outside the return policy with best buy, but I am trying to get them to agree to exchange the phone since in my opinion it is terrible. I have an evo 4G and it was a great phone, and the thunderbolt has the potential to be great, but the battery life, crappy screen, light leakage all around the capacitive buttons and spot lights on the screen from the capacitive buttons, is just terrible.
If they let me exchange the phone, I don't want to be an ass, and get a charge, only to turn around and exchange it for a thunderbolt again if the charge is that bad.
Anyone who has switched from a thunderbolt to a charge care to shout out how they feel about the switch?
CM7 support seems iffy for the charge, and I know I want a real CM7 for the thunderbolt not the alpha that works half the time, but if it has been that hard to get a well working CM7 on the thunderbolt, probably never happen on the charge? since the current GB leak from HTC is bigger than Froyo...
The screen, the battery life, and the physical buttons make me want this phone, but I don't want to switch if it means worse headaches than I currently have. No need to trade a demon for a devil.
If battery life is a big issue for you, then you might want to rethink the Charge unless you buy the bigger battery. But from what I can tell, if you buy the larger battery you also have to buy a new back cover as well. So figure spending an extra 50 bucks. In all, with my purchase I got a car charger and screan protecters and ended up paying 375 after taxes. Add an extr 50 for the battery and cover and your well over 425. As for the standard battery life, I have to charge it every day. I'd say if you use it alot through out the day it'll last about 5-8 hrs max. But I havent really took the time to tell exactally. Just know you want go a whole day without charging it.
Bryan
I had the Thunderbolt and returned it for battery and reception issues, 1st i went with an iphone as i know they last forever on a charge, im a heavy business user and was getting 2-3 hours per battery with the TB ( i had to have 3 and swap them out thru the day ), i got the charge yesterday and ran the battery down to zero, then charged full, then blasted it back down which still took a while, back on charge over night, took it off charge this morning at 6:15am, ive been listening to music for a little over an hour, downloading market items, around 20 calls, 20 texts and 10-15 emails, and ive not used 25% yet
i love the charge, best thing i did was return the TB, the TB is a faster phone due the the extra 256mb of ram but not much thats gonna drive you crazy, im used to it already, also dont use the stock browser as it sucks, i also use launcher pro with my charge and it makes life a lot better again, give me the charge anyday, better screen, i think it looks better, i really like the physical buttons, you can hotswap sd cards ( not in the TB due to sd slot under battery) miles better battery, just over all better
I had a Thunderbolt for roughly 5 weeks and recently swapped to a Charge. So far, I'm very glad I made the change and plan on sticking with this phone until a dual core LTE phone is released. Here are the differences that I see :
Battery life: Charge definitely wins here, although I still wouldn't say the battery life is "good." The main difference seems to be idling. My Thunderbolt battery would drain VERY quickly while in my pocket. (assuming i was on LTE) The charge does not do this.
Screen: No contest. I did not care for the Thunderbolt screen and the Charge screen is amazing.
Software: Sense is far better than Touchwiz, although I don't personally care for either. Root for ED1/ED2 as well as clockwork mod was just released for the Charge, so it is only a matter of time before we have full roms that nuke the nasty orange and brown menus.
CDMA/LTE radio : Signal strength seems to be about the same for me on both phones, although I'm often on a "fringe" LTE area in Las Vegas. The Thunderbolt would always hang onto 1 bar of LTE leaving me with no data connectivity whatsoever. (not to mention draining the battery in record fashion) The charge sits on 3G in these areas - which i DEFINITELY prefer.
Also, I love the physical buttons and the lighter weight of the charge. Honestly, the touchwiz software and slightly laggy stock browser (easily fixed by downloading another browser on the market) are my only "complaints." I'd do the swap over again in a heart beat.
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I had a Thunderbolt for roughly 5 weeks and recently swapped to a Charge. So far, I'm very glad I made the change and plan on sticking with this phone until a dual core LTE phone is released. Here are the differences that I see :
Battery life: Charge definitely wins here, although I still wouldn't say the battery life is "good." The main difference seems to be idling. My Thunderbolt battery would drain VERY quickly while in my pocket. (assuming i was on LTE) The charge does not do this.
Screen: No contest. I did not care for the Thunderbolt screen and the Charge screen is amazing.
Software: Sense is far better than Touchwiz, although I don't personally care for either. Root for ED1/ED2 as well as clockwork mod was just released for the Charge, so it is only a matter of time before we have full roms that nuke the nasty orange and brown menus.
CDMA/LTE radio : Signal strength seems to be about the same for me on both phones, although I'm often on a "fringe" LTE area in Las Vegas. The Thunderbolt would always hang onto 1 bar of LTE leaving me with no data connectivity whatsoever. (not to mention draining the battery in record fashion) The charge sits on 3G in these areas - which i DEFINITELY prefer.
Also, I love the physical buttons and the lighter weight of the charge. Honestly, the touchwiz software and slightly laggy stock browser (easily fixed by downloading another browser on the market) are my only "complaints." I'd do the swap over again in a heart beat.
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I second everything said here except the physical buttons.
I also had a TB for almost 5 weeks. I enjoy the Charge more, but honestly the lack of ram is very noticeable.
Either way, this will be me phone until dual-core LTEs come out (excluding Moto Bionic).
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I did and the difference is day and night.
-A lot more battery life
-Amazing screen
-Screen does not scratch easy like TB did
-Weighs a lot less
yyhd said:
I second everything said here except the physical buttons.
I also had a TB for almost 5 weeks. I enjoy the Charge more, but honestly the lack of ram is very noticeable.
Either way, this will be me phone until dual-core LTEs come out (excluding Moto Bionic).
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So five weeks. Did verizon let you just exchange the phone? I am pretty sure best buy will let me exchange it as i will be a reward zone silver member in a few days,but just incase id love to know.
Edit - thanks for the feedback everyone, i am definitely interested in getting the charge now. I had the evo befor the thunderbolt and it had the 512 ram and ran fine. So i dont see that as being an isssue
yyhd said:
I second everything said here except the physical buttons.
I also had a TB for almost 5 weeks. I enjoy the Charge more, but honestly the lack of ram is very noticeable.
Either way, this will be me phone until dual-core LTEs come out (excluding Moto Bionic).
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And i THIRD WHAT HE SAID.....LOL...I LOVE THIS PHONE, I ENDED UP GETTING THE THE CHARGING DOCK/EXTRA BATTERY COMBO ALSO, AND I COULD NOT BE MORE SATISFIED, NEED I NOT TELL YOU I HAD MY TBOLT SINCE MARCH 18TH AND I ENDED UP HAVING TO CALL *611 AND GET TO TIER 2 SUPPORT MANAGER, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO CHARGE MY ACCOUNT FOR THE CHARGE AND THEY SENT ME A RETURN LABEL FOR AND EXCHANGE FOR THE TBOLT SO AS SOON AS THEY GET THE TBOLT BACK THEY CREDIT MY ACCOUNT, ONE TIME THING DUE TO ALL MY TBOLT CUSTOMER SUPPORT PROBLEMS.........HOPE I HELPED SOMEONE
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The charge has the greatest screen I've ever seen on a phone. The physical buttons (IMO) are better than capacative buttons. Touchwiz is not that bad(this is coming from an HTC user for the last 2 years that has had and loved sense on an evo 4g and touch pro2).
Give the charge a shot u should enjoy it more than a thunderbolt
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Hi, I'm planning on purchasing an HTC Sensation now that I've gotten rid of my iPhone 4.
I do have some issues regarding the purchase. I've seen threads commenting on dust collecting under screen and a poor battery life. Are these issues common on the phone? And if they are, is it possible to clean out the screen when the issue occurs? I've heard about a 1900mAh battery so I guess that's a better fix for the battery.
I'm on a T-Mobile family plan with no data plan. If I purchase an unlocked Sensation, will T-Mobile automatically add a data plan to my line? This happened to me when I used my iPhone 4 I got as a present on my AT&T line.
Thanks!
Not had my phone for all that long so I can't comment on the dust under the screen issue yet. But for battery life there are a few things that can be done, if you root your phone you can get SetCPU and underclock your phone when it's screen is off to extend the battery life or get Juice Defender, which disables wifi and data when the screen is off but turns them back on every 15 minutes to allow it to sync and will then turn them off again to save battery.
But even without a rooted phone, although the battery life certainly isn't good it will just about get you through a long day. But obviously you can also get a 19000mAh battery or even a further extended one as well as an external battery that can charge your phone up providing you don't mind carrying one around.
Also, can the Sensation play flash videos natively? I've heard some mixed claims regarding that.
I have had the Sensation for quite some time now and I don't have one spec of dust under my screen. And battery life is good. It last me through the day but I bought the Anker 1900mAh battery because it is so cheap and so amazing lol.
I would recommend the Sensation to anyone.
Anker 10,000 maH battery......
I purchased the Anker 10,000 maH battery. I had to...... I use my phone all day long. So I really don't turn on my main computer everyday. Especially since I installed a terminal emulator on my Sense. Now I can correct code, and scripts on the fly. I can re-charge my phone 5 times with this brick. Fits in my shirt pocket, and it takes an hour from 10% battery to 100%. Not bad.....
UnixSlayer said:
I purchased the Anker 10,000 maH battery. I had to...... I use my phone all day long. So I really don't turn on my main computer everyday. Especially since I installed a terminal emulator on my Sense. Now I can correct code, and scripts on the fly. I can re-charge my phone 5 times with this brick. Fits in my shirt pocket, and it takes an hour from 10% battery to 100%. Not bad.....
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wow,
douche early?
to the op. just swap out the sim card and dont change a thing.. you will be fine.
picked up mine slightly used. no issues.. am running the 1900 battery.
great phone..
beers
I have an XE, great screen, no dust and good battery life.
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Dust under the screen is a common issue, but it's only a lot more common than it should be - the number of Sensations affected is still a very low amount. The safest way to take care of it is to go through T-Mo or HTC and they'll clean it out. Trying to do it yourself will definitely void the warranty cause you'll have to dismantle the phone.
Battery can be terrible, but a chichitec, anker, or mugen 1900mAh battery along with a good rom/kernel/clockspeed combo fixes that. I'm on Android HD 3.x gingerbread with the stock kernel, clocked at 1.5Ghz when the screen is on, 768Mhz when it's off, heavy user and I can make it through the day. The other thing to consider is how you use the phone. The Super-LCD looks crazy crisp, and it is, sunlight visibility is great and color reproduction is nice - although it's no SAMOLED. Here's the problem though, it's a mega power drainer. If you listen to a lot of music on your phone or maybe stream Pandora comedy, you shouldn't have any issues. If you're an all-day facebooker or constantly texting/emailing, that screen will destroy your battery and I couldn't recommend the phone, as much as I love it Don't get me wrong, you could do it, but you'll probably need a spare battery or a charger with you.
With the 1900mAh battery, I can have the screen on constantly and texting/emailing/browsing for about 3 hours straight. If I keep the screen on and play games, 2 and a half hours. Not much difference even though one is a lot more intensive than the other. The S-LCD panel is a huge battery drain.
I haven't had any problems with dust under the screen.
Battery life great for the amount of time i use the phone everyday (screenshot attached).
If you're up for it i'd suggest you flash a custom ROM to use the full potential of the phone. Personally i like Android Revolution HD, but it's all down to personal preference. Try a few different ones and use what you like the most.
Hi guys!
First things first:
Happy New Year to everyone!
I'm thinking of an upgrade (from HTC Vision & iPhone 4S) and looking at Sensation as an option and I've got a few questions regarding that.
My main concern is it not to late to jump to a Sensation? are there good developers still around? I remember RMK jumped from G2 to sensation, and he's still here, how about others? Any rumors or plans to abandon Sensation? I'd imagine alot of them getting the new GN, I can't really be bothered, rather have an option between Sense and AOSP.
My other question would be is the hardware acceleration fully functional on current ICS roms?
slovoflud said:
My other question would be is the hardware acceleration fully functional on current ICS roms?
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I'm running RVHD 5.02 and its still running at 1.2 GHz.. I haven't figured out why. I'm running super tuner, and setcpu. It's running quick, but not at the advertised speed.
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I'm running RVHD 5.02 and its still running at 1.2 GHz.. I haven't figured out why. I'm running super tuner, and setcpu. It's running quick, but not at the advertised speed.
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uh, sorry I wasn't clear enough - I meant Video acceleration
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uh, sorry I wasn't clear enough - I meant Video acceleration
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It's "there" but it doesn't run very well. Barely feels like its on. Just wait a month or two, and stable ICS will be released.
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It's "there" but it doesn't run very well. Barely feels like its on. Just wait a month or two, and stable ICS will be released.
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thanks!
what abouts this?
any thoughts?
My main concern is it not to late to jump to a Sensation? are there good developers still around?
Despite having GNexus I would recommend the HTC Sensation. Had it before gnex and it's very good phone. Had two small issues :
1) battery under heavy use drain fast - bigger battery recommended.
2) random ringtone/notification change (this could be related to 2.08.401.1 ROM, which isn't officially released, but is a test ROM).
Other than this is VERY good device and won't let you down.
aspot72 said:
Despite having GNexus I would recommend the HTC Sensation. Had it before gnex and it's very good phone. Had two small issues :
1) battery under heavy use drain fast - bigger battery recommended.
2) random ringtone/notification change (this could be related to 2.08.401.1 ROM, which isn't officially released, but is a test ROM).
Other than this is VERY good device and won't let you down.
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Thanks!
on a side note, what's so disappointing with GNexus?
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Thanks!
on a side note, what's so disappointing with GNexus?
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Disappointing? Nothing . Only issue I had, was the "volume ghost", but after flashing 4.0.2 all OK. It's different device and as I was hard addict to Sense, I'm surprised how quickly get used to GNex. Love it
i have no dust on my screen yet. i buy it 3 month ago.
ps:i come from China.hah
The dust problem is annoying, but it's no problem to get a new phone when the first one has dust under the screen. The Akku is okey for one day full use, when you load it every night. When you need better akku there are good ones with 1900mAh, on Amazon Germany for example the one by Anker.
Thanks for the input everybody!
Regarding the data plan. I currently have a family plan with no data. When I purchase my Sensation on ebay or any other auction site, and then use my T-Mobile sim, will I automatically be added a data plan?
I remember a day when phone batteries lasted almost a week and service was everywhere. There were no 4g networks but calls still came in crisp and clear. Why is it now phone manufacturers make these huge screens more advanced processors and skip over the important things that make a phone a phone. It might have looked funny with an antenna coming out of it but my old verizon lg flip phone had service everywhere! Now i cant even hold my phone in my hand without giving it the "death grip" honestly i think engineers really failed seeing as you cant even hold a smartphone in your hand without a noticeable drop in connectivity.
Gman355 said:
I remember a day when phone batteries lasted almost a week and service was everywhere. There were no 4g networks but calls still came in crisp and clear. Why is it now phone manufacturers make these huge screens more advanced processors and skip over the important things that make a phone a phone. It might have looked funny with an antenna coming out of it but my old verizon lg flip phone had service everywhere! Now i cant even hold my phone in my hand without giving it the "death grip" honestly i think engineers really failed seeing as you cant even hold a smartphone in your hand without a noticeable drop in connectivity.
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I agree with the battery bit, but honestly, did we even use phones as much as we do now back then? Think about how much you use your phone, then and now.
I can't sympathize with the reception thing. What part of the world do you live in? I always get good reception wherever I am. (Excluding one time in an area where my service just disappeared for no reason.)
I'm probably looking at it wrong and I accept that but the way I see it, it's up to the user how long the smart phone will last.
Use 75% brightness, you moan. Use 30%, magic improvements etc etc. Smartphones have gotten to the point where they are essentially pocket PCs that use all kinds of resources.
One user can report good battery life, another the opposite.
Tl;dr - It's probably your fault. Carry a battery
I feel that my Droid 3 is just as good if not a bit better than my old feature phone on Verizon and I'm in a rural area. But I've heard Motorola makes good radios for their phones, at least they can do one thing right. For years cell phones have been using internal fractal antennas, and there was even a time manufacturers put a fake antenna stub on their phones just to please customers. I used to have an old LG flip phone with a 1" antenna stub on it that you could unscrew and it didn't change reception at all, proving it was a fake. Phones do a lot more today and are as powerful as desktop computers were not too long ago. Part of the sacrifice of having a smartphone is worse battery life. I imagine someday batteries will catch up, look how far lithium batteries have come compared to the old nickel batteries in the 90s.
My note 2 gets about 12 hrs on a full charge and that's with considerable internet usage
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i get wildly varying battery life. it is especially bad when im traveling. i think bad battery life is here to stay.
For actually making phone calls, my reception and call quality is the same as it's always been. With use of calls over wifi, the quality is actually generally better.
I don't notice any difference in connectivity when holding my phone. Hell, I have metal bumpers on it and it's not a noticeable difference.
I don't expect the same battery life from a device that is looked at only a few times a day compared to something I can use the internet, games, et cetera on - one that is accessing mobile data on a periodic basis. There's a lot you can do to control wakelocks and such for better battery life, too.
I understand all the points listed here. I dont expect to get the same battery life on a phone used frequently over a phone checked a few times aday. I actually do pretty good on my htc one S. At first i was having problems with the phone getting super hot when i wake up in the morning while it was on the charger. Eventually i rooted it and threw a custom rom on there and just recently i flashed an oced kernel and did some reading up on cpu governors. long story short i get an oc from 1500 mhz to 2100 mhz and im also seeing improved battery life. switching to the old radio got me better connectivity. I think im one of the people who dont really care about the aesthetics of the phone and wouldent mind one being a bit thicker for improved battery life. Im actually hearing good things about the droid razor max some reports of the battery lasting up to 3 days on a single charge so maby some of my points were more device spesific. Usually where i want to have connectivity i get very little. At work theres concrete walls so its definitly not an optimal area for transmitting and receiving information. And i suppose battery technology has come a very very long way i would just like to see more manufacturers stressing screen time and connectivity
I thought maybe once all phones cracked the 300ppi barrier we would see a slowing down the screen arms race and see some marked improvement in battery life. But with the release of several 1080 phones, I feel that isn't going to happen.
Reception I feel has gotten better where I am, Australia.