OK, so I have searched and searched...and forgive me for being ignorant. I am an Android rooter from way back in the day of the EVO 4G and beyond. However, now that I have a Xoom 3G that I bought as an open box special, I have no idea if I have a dual band or quad band. I have read, searched, Googled and scanned until my fingers are ready to bleed!
What is the deciding way to tell 100% for sure that I have a dual or quad band, and if it's not quad band, can it be 'convinced' to become that way? I am currently stationed in the Middle East, and everything here is GSM, and I'd really like to be able to use my Zain sim card in my Xoom! I know that I need to have it sim unlocked, but Verizon usually does that with just a phone call when you're stationed overseas (or at least they have the last 3 times we've called).
I'd appreciate any and all help, as this Xoom has me a bit more intimidated than the other Android devices I've rooted have ever had!
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Hello gents, I'll start with a short story to get you into the thread:
Me and my girlfriend live in Venezuela, our service providers are not up to par with american or european carriers in terms of available devices, so we bought an HTC Magic for each of us last year to try out Android, everything was fine, I learned how to root it, install roms and such, and we had a pretty good run with the phone and the OS.
Last week we got robbed and they took away our phones, I decided to get a Nexus S for her and I found one at a good price on eBay(270$+shipping) however this one is branded for Sprint, will I be able to go to my service provider and just tell them to attach my account to the phone I bought on ebay? or are the Sprint and Verizon Nexus S locked to those carriers exclusively?
If the answer to the second question is yes, then a third question is raised, can I in any way unlock this phone to use it on my non-american service provider?
I have seen other threads and the replies are always "the Nexus S is factory unlocked." but I dont know if this refers exclusively to the ones sold in the UK or retail stores in the US.
I apologize for any noobish behaviour, I'm a big fan of devices and gadgets yet I lack a lot of the technical skills you all seem to demonstrate.
Thanks in advance.
-Gaash
There is no such thing as a Verizon Nexus S. Sprint Nexus S have different radio bands than the regular Nexus S (I9020T/I9020A/I9023) and features a 4G radio with it. You have to make sure that the phone is compatible with your carrier's bands. Another thing to note is that the Sprint Nexus S is CDMA (No SIM card) as well.
All Nexus S models come unlocked regardless if you're on the contract or not. Sorry to hear about your incident
The model I bought is GT-I9020T, according to people on the internet(random links on google) this model works on GSM frequencies of 850, 900, 1800, & 1900. It supports UMTS 900, 1700, and 2100 frequencies.
My current provider works on 850 and 1900 for GSM and 850 for CDMA.
Do you think I will have trouble using the phone I bought for my girl?
I feel terribly dumb when I ask this, I cant explain why, hehe.
Oh, I think I figured it out, I bought for her the non branded GSM version, so yes, it will probably work on my provider.
But what happens if I buy a Sprint CDMA one for myself? Those are definitely cheaper, and CDMA seems to be better down here, at least more stable.
Thanks for your replies, and simpathy, it's been a rough week without a smartphone for both of us.
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Oh, I think I figured it out, I bought for her the non branded GSM version, so yes, it will probably work on my provider.
But what happens if I buy a Sprint CDMA one for myself? Those are definitely cheaper, and CDMA seems to be better down here, at least more stable.
Thanks for your replies, and simpathy, it's been a rough week without a smartphone for both of us.
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I'm not sure and I wouldn't say the CDMA version is more stable. I personally never used the Nexus S 4G but from what I can tell from threads is that there are problems with WiFi or something of that sort.
You might want to ask the carrier yourself via phone to see if it would be compatible or so. Just let them know about the bands the phone supports.
And that's interesting if your carrier supports CDMA and GSM.
CDMA = No SIM card
GSM = SIM card
GSM is more popular around the world. Just including that just incase!
Alright, so I talked to my carrier they said the following:
-If I buy a CDMA phone with no contract on the US I will be able to register it on their network.
-If I buy an unlocked GSM phone I can register it on their network.
I guess I'll have to buy a couple of GSMs just to be sure... even tho they are about 100$ more expensive.
Thanks for all the replies, catch you later!
So as the title implies, im planning on purchasing the At &t carrier locked infuse 4g from the american EBAY site and wish to use it on an indian carrier.
Before i make the purchase, could somebody tell me about the risks involved and the success rate of the procedure mentioned in this forum?
Dont want the thing bricking on me or anything.....=x
Wrong Forum buddy!
as for unlocking it. it will be unlocked and work on any network, it would be up to you to see if you will be picking up 3G or Edge speeds.
Ah sorry, ill be moving this to the Q & A section.
Btw do i absolutely NEED a sim card pre installed inside the phone to unlock?
And how safe is the unlock procedure?
Like is there a chance that i may not get the right code or something?
I suppose on the rare chance it could be possible to get the wrong code, but honestly if you follow the instructions that are posted here; you shouldn't have a problem. I don't believe a sim card is required to get the code since you don't need one in the phone to mess around with it when you turn it on. I could be slightly wrong with that though, but I'm almost 100% certain that won't be necessary.
Make sure you post stuff in the correct forum in the future though.
There is minor chance if you use batch file unlock but not with manually finding a code. Make sure not to enter wrong unlock code entered more then like 5 times.
You will be able to use 3g on airtel gujarat and bsnl networks.
Infuse is dual band phone and not quad band which is standard now more or less and i wonder why samsung did that. So long story short it might not work on some networks india even for voice. Your best bet is galaxy series gsm phones.
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There is minor chance if you use batch file unlock but not with manually finding a code. Make sure not to enter wrong unlock code entered more then like 5 times.
You will be able to use 3g on airtel gujarat and bsnl networks.
Infuse is dual band phone and not quad band which is standard now more or less and i wonder why samsung did that. So long story short it might not work on some networks india even for voice. Your best bet is galaxy series gsm phones.
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unlocked listed in ebay india
urtruelove78 said:
There is minor chance if you use batch file unlock but not with manually finding a code. Make sure not to enter wrong unlock code entered more then like 5 times.
You will be able to use 3g on airtel gujarat and bsnl networks.
Infuse is dual band phone and not quad band which is standard now more or less and i wonder why samsung did that. So long story short it might not work on some networks india even for voice. Your best bet is galaxy series gsm phones.
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Infuse is quad-band GSM which is standard. Quad-band UMTS is almost unheard of... Triband UMTS is the standard (two carrier-specific USA bands + the international UMTS2100 band)
Infuse is 850,1900 gsm and dual band umts not quad band gsm. See page 171 of manual.
Quad band that's what i thought earlier but has to make sure before selling on ebay and realized i was wrong. Many cellphone website list it as quad band gsm which is incorrect.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997.
urtruelove78 said:
Infuse is 850,1900 gsm and dual band umts not quad band gsm. See page 171 of manual.
Quad band that's what i thought earlier but has to make sure before selling on ebay and realized i was wrong. Many cellphone website list it as quad band gsm which is incorrect.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997.
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That's only FCC-required safety information for operation in the US. In the US, it will only operate on those bands so they only publish SAR information that applies to the USA.
In addition to those bands, it supports others. Complete list is:
GSM850/900/1800/1900, UMTS850/1900/2100
i am using unlocked infuse in india.... unlocked using method on this site... no issues...
I went to India on vacation last month... used my Infuse on three networks -- BSNL, Airtel, and T24. Worked on all three. Airtel was the best using 850 Band. T24 used 2100 band. Don't remember what band of BSNL it used.
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I went to India on vacation last month... used my Infuse on three networks -- BSNL, Airtel, and T24. Worked on all three. Airtel was the best using 850 Band. T24 used 2100 band. Don't remember what band of BSNL it used.
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Great. As I was selling on eBay, default specs eBay adds from cnet says dual band and manual also says so, I was going by that.
Useful info and real world experience from form member means I can take it with me in upcoming visit to homeland.
diablo009 said:
I went to India on vacation last month... used my Infuse on three networks -- BSNL, Airtel, and T24. Worked on all three. Airtel was the best using 850 Band. T24 used 2100 band. Don't remember what band of BSNL it used.
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diablo009 - could you tell me if it allowed you to select the network operator manually OR how it brhaved if you ever went out of the coverage area? Did it select another network automatically?
Samsung Infuse 4G works in India!
Hi, Infuse works very nicely in India mobile networks, at least it works fine with Vodafone. This phone is sure an amazing phone I have seen so far till date!
It is available with ATT for around 70-100 US$ depending on season under 2 years contract. You have to pay around 320 US$ if you want to break the contract. Every month the minimum payment towards monthly usage charge is around 70US$ (features are mandatory, this is the lowest minimal). As you use and pay, every month the contract break amount will be reduced by US$ 10. Still this is worth for the mobile. Again you will be having a legal phone too.
It is a Quad band mobile. You need unlocking code to unlock the phone, the procedures listed for rooting and unlocking sometime works only with certain SIM available in US but the minute you try with a SIM from India the mobile will again ask for Unlock code. The maximum retries is 10 times (again this may differ with the firmware in your mobile).
This phone has an excellent screen quality, very good camera, 1.2 GHz processor, 2 GB for application, 14 GB internal memory, 2 GB SD Card (upgradeable to 32 GB), HDMI out, very slim and light, has scratch proof gorilla glass too.
Apt screen size, very good accessories (Desktop dock with its nice app, 3rd party 3400 mAH high capacity battery)
Install Nemus Launcher / Launcher Pro... it will make the phone pleasant using it!
Note: Upgrade to Gingerbread is not available till now and there is no clue on whether it will be available in future! this phone has an issue in connecting with Kies software from samsung though the menu in the phone for connectivity has it as one of the options of connectivity.
LOL I'm an idiot, was thinking HTC ONE when I said one hd...
Found a really good deal ($170) on a bnib razr hd from verizon with a bad esn on ebay. Didnt really have the time to fully research it before the auction ended so I just took the chance and placed the order.
Did some searching after the fact and have found some really conflicting information. I know the phone would be pretty much useless in the states, but I'm unsure of its usability in Canada? I've herd they would work fine in asia and india so I'm basically curious if anyone knows the extent of how far verizon shares its blocked phone information? Does it extend to Canada?
I've herd on the states you need to have your phone activated onto a network? In Canada we just throw in our sim card and are good to go. Is this a different technology (CDMA vs GSM?). If so assuming the Activation portion of the phone is blocked could the sim card part of it still be open theoretically?
Assuming its possible to work with the bad esn does anyone know if I could use LTE on Bell/virgin?
According to bell it uses LTE AWS 1700mhz and LTE 700mhz and HSPA 850mhz and 1900mhz
According to gsm arena the xt926 uses:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13
Should be fully compatible no? I cant find any information on what class bell uses for their LTE, nor do I know if the class affects anything?
mikeinaus said:
LOL I'm an idiot, was thinking HTC ONE when I said one hd...
Found a really good deal ($170) on a bnib razr hd from verizon with a bad esn on ebay. Didnt really have the time to fully research it before the auction ended so I just took the chance and placed the order.
Did some searching after the fact and have found some really conflicting information. I know the phone would be pretty much useless in the states, but I'm unsure of its usability in Canada? I've herd they would work fine in asia and india so I'm basically curious if anyone knows the extent of how far verizon shares its blocked phone information? Does it extend to Canada?
I've herd on the states you need to have your phone activated onto a network? In Canada we just throw in our sim card and are good to go. Is this a different technology (CDMA vs GSM?). If so assuming the Activation portion of the phone is blocked could the sim card part of it still be open theoretically?
Assuming its possible to work with the bad esn does anyone know if I could use LTE on Bell/virgin?
According to bell it uses LTE AWS 1700mhz and LTE 700mhz and HSPA 850mhz and 1900mhz
According to gsm arena the xt926 uses:
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 13
Should be fully compatible no? I cant find any information on what class bell uses for their LTE, nor do I know if the class affects anything?
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You can unlock it for gsm carriers in the us and its already unlocked for international use. I know with att u get h+ witch is good enough for me on straight talk. I average about 6mps.
Got the phone on the weekend. It works fine on bell/ virgin except I can't connect to lte. Does anyone know of it's possible to unlock lte? According to gsm area the phone should be compatible with lte 700mhz which is what bell uses... Will that radio com thing you guys use to unlock it for us carriers help?
Sorry if this is in the wrong place, or if this is a stupid question but my sister's phone recently died, and I'm looking for a cheap replacement that will also be an upgrade for her. I found an S3 for $200, however it's from the USA and it is from AT&T. If I just put cyanogenmod on there, will it work with a Bell Canada sim, or will i have to pay to get it unlocked or something? Thanks in advance!
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Sorry if this is in the wrong place, or if this is a stupid question but my sister's phone recently died, and I'm looking for a cheap replacement that will also be an upgrade for her. I found an S3 for $200, however it's from the USA and it is from AT&T. If I just put cyanogenmod on there, will it work with a Bell Canada sim, or will i have to pay to get it unlocked or something? Thanks in advance!
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You should see if the seller can carrier-unlock it for you. If it's paid for, and has a clean IEMI, it shouldn't cost him to get it unlocked through AT&T.
As for the phone itself, it's compatible with Bell's band 4, but not band 7. So that part depends on what Bell uses in the areas you want to use it in. From what I can tell, band 4 is their main band, with band 7 to offer more bandwidth in some areas (cities?). But in theory, it should work as long as it's unlocked, and will work on GSM/UMTS if not LTE.
EDIT: Check out the Moto G LTE as well. Band 4 support, quad core 1.2GHz processor, MicroSD slot, $220 brand new.
Hi everyone.
I'm in Canada but I bought a galaxy S6 Duos (SM-G920FD) from HK (or Taiwan, can't remember) in August because I really wanted to try out a Dual SIM phone. That part I really like, no more carrying that 2002 throwback phone from work...
Anyway, the phone is nice, I like it and like I said I like the Dual SIM convenience. But... my phone's been having some issues lately. Some of it might be me just going bananas over installing system heavy apps, but one thing's always been an issue: the LTE. I read up on the subject beforehand and even if I'm no expert, I pretty much saw that the LTE bands used by my provide - Rogers - were supported. Although I do get "4G" once in a while, I am never more than one, maybe two bars of signal. When it's strong enough, speeds are decent, but more often than not I fall back on HSPA at full bars.
I live in a large city with very reliable wireless. I checked everything I could with Rogers and made all system updates. I'm not rooted so I can't go that far, but I had an iPhone right before this and it was almost always full signal in LTE. Similarly, I share my data plan with my iPad and side-by-side, my iPad is 4 or 5 out of 5, while my S6 is barely on 4G.
My question being, is this normal and did I misunderstand the specs, or is there something wrong with my phone?? Because Samsung does NOT recognize international warranty (btw, that's horrible), I can't really easily fix it. The seller offered to have it repaired under warranty, but I need to ship it back so more costs but more importantly, no phone for god knows how long.
Any and all info appreciated, as always
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Hi everyone.
I'm in Canada but I bought a galaxy S6 Duos (SM-G920FD) from HK (or Taiwan, can't remember) in August because I really wanted to try out a Dual SIM phone. That part I really like, no more carrying that 2002 throwback phone from work...
Anyway, the phone is nice, I like it and like I said I like the Dual SIM convenience. But... my phone's been having some issues lately. Some of it might be me just going bananas over installing system heavy apps, but one thing's always been an issue: the LTE. I read up on the subject beforehand and even if I'm no expert, I pretty much saw that the LTE bands used by my provide - Rogers - were supported. Although I do get "4G" once in a while, I am never more than one, maybe two bars of signal. When it's strong enough, speeds are decent, but more often than not I fall back on HSPA at full bars.
I live in a large city with very reliable wireless. I checked everything I could with Rogers and made all system updates. I'm not rooted so I can't go that far, but I had an iPhone right before this and it was almost always full signal in LTE. Similarly, I share my data plan with my iPad and side-by-side, my iPad is 4 or 5 out of 5, while my S6 is barely on 4G.
My question being, is this normal and did I misunderstand the specs, or is there something wrong with my phone?? Because Samsung does NOT recognize international warranty (btw, that's horrible), I can't really easily fix it. The seller offered to have it repaired under warranty, but I need to ship it back so more costs but more importantly, no phone for god knows how long.
Any and all info appreciated, as always
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Rogers lte frequencys 2100 MHz and 2600 MHz
Samsung s6 duos LTE feqs 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850)
This could be your problem ur only getting one of the frequencys
This link http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/forumtopicpage/board-id/Android/thread-id/12933 pertty much sums it up in the comments
Ah I see. Thanks for the info!
I just re-read your reply and 2600MHz is in the list of compatible bands on the S6..? So might it be the phone after all?