As a fresh TF300-owner I was wondering if it is possible to create a nandroid backup (and restore oc) without unlocking my device.
I have rooted my device, but don't need unlocking (no intentions to flash roms). However, a full backup gives me some peace of mind. Is there any way to achieve this without unlocking? (I think I know the answer, but I hope I missed a way to achieve this...)
Aside, as I am asking already, do you have advice to maximize root-advantage? I have rooted specifically for the Switch Me-app (purchased, it is so good!) and for AdFree.
As I have root now, do you guys have any suggestions for "must-have" apps or tweaks that require root?
Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance!
Ok, have been reading further and what I already thought seems to be true: Without unlocking no nandroid backup...
Well, good to know and to keep in mind. Of course, if I missed something, I love to hear :fingers-crossed: And if anyone has suggestions for root-dependend apps or tweaks, I'm still interested
Thus far I found the following suggestion myself:
Minor tweaks and speed increase , specific post 261 as I am on WW fw .30
Some app suggestions from the Prime topic
Needless to say more suggestions are always welcome
Simply put..nandroid backup is a function of cwm recovery. To get cwm recovery installed, the boot loader must be unlocked. So therefore, no nandroid backup can occur without an unlocked boot loader. I've seen a windows root program with other Android devices that roots, unlocks the boot loader, installs cwm recovery and offers its own internal backup feature. But again, that's only possible with an unlocked boot loader
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cavsoldier19d said:
Simply put..nandroid backup is a function of cwm recovery. To get cwm recovery installed, the boot loader must be unlocked. So therefore, no nandroid backup can occur without an unlocked boot loader.
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Yes, after searching, reading, re-reading, more searching, reading again, another google attempt (at that time I wasn't searching for the answer, but for my desired answer (to find out that the desired answer doesn't exist) ) I finally came to this conclusion too.
Well, no nandroid backup then for me, cause don't want to unlock bootloader, except the backup there is no need for me (at least not yet, future experience might change my opinion).
Thanks for explaining anyway!
Isn't there another way of installing CWM tho? Defy's can install it with a locked bootloader (2ndinit).
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There may be other methods to installing cwm recovery, however no matter which method u use, it will still require unlocking the boot loader. Unlocking the boot loader and flashing a custom recovery are two seperate processes
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That's what I mean tho, the Defy didn't have an unlocked bootloader but still had CWM...
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Yes u are right. There is an app (i dont remember the name), which let u to install cwm on locked bootloader. However it needs to have possibility to flash cwm port for specific phone/tablet and now it can only flash port for tf300 - it is flashing this for tf101 and it can brick our tf300.
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Every Android device is different when it comes to rooting, flashing roms and flashing recoveries. Its the same reason why we can't just use one root program for all Android devices unlike jail breaking an iPhone. Every Android manufacturer and model will vary with boot loaders, partitions, root exploits and everything else. What may work for one Android device will not work for another. And at this time, on the tf300, there is no other way to install a custom recovery without unlocking the boot loader...unless we just had a breakthrough that I'm not aware of. We are all hoping for that breakthrough to come.
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If you are able to root the device and install busybox, there is a method!
cavsoldier19d said:
Simply put..nandroid backup is a function of cwm recovery. To get cwm recovery installed, the boot loader must be unlocked. So therefore, no nandroid backup can occur without an unlocked boot loader. I've seen a windows root program with other Android devices that roots, unlocks the boot loader, installs cwm recovery and offers its own internal backup feature. But again, that's only possible with an unlocked boot loader
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Actually, nandroid backups aren't limited to recovery. You could nandroid using fastboot if you like. Recovery just makes it easier. In fact, pretty much every function of recovery can be performed using fastboot. You need to unlock the bootloader to access fastboot, though, so that doesn't really help here. Just thought I'd point that out.
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Has anyone tried to root their i9023 with 4.0.4 using doomlord's easy rooting toolkit? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
I tried it when I had 2.3.6 and it worked perfectly but want to update to 4.0.4 now.
If doomlord's doesn't work, is there any similar one click rooting? Also, when I rooted, it didn't erase my data and apps. Will that be the same? Thanks
I guess not. Been searching and couldn't find a non-destructive one and one as a simple click without needing cwm.
There's none that I am aware of. However, it's not really that complicated to flash the right SU zip, and if you don't want to flash cwm you can simply fastboot boot cwm.img and it will leave stock recovery intact and ready after you flashed everything.
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Couple things if you're already rooted on gingerbread do a nandroid back up. Put that and anything else you want to keep on your computer. Unlock the bootloader and restore your backup and update.
Stop messing around and unlock the bootloader.
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Couple things if you're already rooted on gingerbread do a nandroid back up. Put that and anything else you want to keep on your computer. Unlock the bootloader and restore your backup and update.
Stop messing around and unlock the bootloader.
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How can he do a backup if the bootloader is locked = no cwm recovery? He's out of luck. Best thing he can do is backup the SD card and that's it. The rest is lost
Edit: failed to read sorry. Didn't notice the gingerbread part. Anyway if he's on stock and one clicked rooted he still doesn't have cwm so he can't make a nandroid, he can use titanium backup and save apps and data.
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If he is stock rooted he can flash cwm in the os. Either through rom manager or terminal
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If he is stock rooted he can flash cwm in the os. Either through rom manager or terminal
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I thought that locked bootloader prevented the flash of any kind of unsigned .img even if you have root.
Guess i was wrong ;D
That's what you get when your first step with an android phone is unlock the bootloader
Not a one size fits all. Some phones all you need is root to flash a custom recovery and roms/kernels.
Others it can be a mess. Like the HTC g2 or even now the one x on att. Got the entire s on/ s off encryption nonsense and so on.
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I thought that locked bootloader prevented the flash of any kind of unsigned .img even if you have root.
Guess i was wrong ;D
That's what you get when your first step with an android phone is unlock the bootloader
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He can flash a new recovery through the OS if he has root access only. Unlocked bootloader only provides fastboot support.
If you are fully stock (bootloader, recovery, no su), the only current way to root 4.0.4 is to have an unlocked bootloader.
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Not a one size fits all. Some phones all you need is root to flash a custom recovery and roms/kernels.
Others it can be a mess. Like the HTC g2 or even now the one x on att. Got the entire s on/ s off encryption nonsense and so on.
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Yeah that's what make my confusion. My old HTC Magic needed unlocked bootloader to flash a recovery.
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He can flash a new recovery through the OS if he has root access only. Unlocked bootloader only provides fastboot support.
If you are fully stock (bootloader, recovery, no su), the only current way to root 4.0.4 is to have an unlocked bootloader.
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Yeah about that i was pretty sure you needed unlocked bootloader, but about CWM flash i was convinced that you needed also unlocked bootloader, but as stated above, it's just for some devices.
Thank to all that responded. All this talk just flew over my head ... guess that's what I get for using simple one clicks
Let me try to straighten some stuff out.
How would I use titanium backup?
Do I titanium backup while it's still on gingerbread or after I OTA the ics 4.0.4?
Edit: duh! I can't use Ti backup after OTA ics because phone not rooted yet.
After backing up with Ti, I thought any attempt to root will erase all. Does the Ti backup not get erased?
Ti backup only backs up my app and the data to those apps, not how I customize my homescreen's widgets and notification bar, right?
So, I would have to do all that stuff over?
If I don't want to unlock bootloader or install cwm, any way to root and leave stock recovery intact?
Lazer Bear posted "if you don't want to flash cwm you can simply fastboot boot cwm.img and it will leave stock recovery intact and ready after you flashed everything."
Is that possible and how do I do it? Does that erase everything too?
Thanks to all!
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I was on locked on stock OTA JB.
I unlocked a few days ago, then last night flashed TWRP. Created a nandroid, then rooted.
Today I've spent several hours downloading ROMs, doing Titanium backups, surfing forums, backing up my personal files etc. i.e. using my tablet normally without problems.
I decided it was time to flash a ROM so booted in TWRP to create a fresh nandroid. Then when it finished I rebooted the system with the plan to copy the nandroid to my pc.
The tablet booted, but then after 30s or so rebooted. It's now stuck in this boot loop. So I tried a cold boot, and then restoring the latest nandroid and the problem persists. I'm currently trying to restore the pre root nandroid I made.
To recap - I am on stock OTA JB, with TWRP v2.3.1.0 recovery. Any thoughts?
Ok just to update - the pre root nandroid seems to be stable at the moment. So... What to do?
Should I reflash the recovery? Try a different recovery?
Any ideas why the nandroid would be borked when the system seemed stable when I created it?
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Question: Does TWRP actually root the TF300? Mine is unlocked but I am looking for the easiest way to root the device.
No it doesn't, it just replaces stock recovery and allows you to gain root.
You could start your own thread. Or, you could read the thread in Android Development that gives clear instructions for noobs to gain root and install TWRP or CWM.
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which ROM were you trying to flash? was it a JB rom?
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Question: Does TWRP actually root the TF300? Mine is unlocked but I am looking for the easiest way to root the device.
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After you install TWRP, you just need to flash a root zip file with TWRP to gain root..
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Question: Does TWRP actually root the TF300? Mine is unlocked but I am looking for the easiest way to root the device.
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Flash a rooted custom rom. ull gain root + rom easily
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which ROM were you trying to flash? was it a JB rom?
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Since this thread got immediately hijacked i'm not sure but I'm going to assume this part of your post was aimed at me...
I wasn't trying to flash a ROM at all. I hadn't even got that far. All I'd done was flash the recovery, root it and then create a nandroid. It was creating the nandroid that seemed to trigger the boot loop, even though that makes zero sense.
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can you get back into fastboot connected to your PC?
I'd try to re-flash TWRP. Also make sure you are using the JB version, not the ICS version.
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/97
I just unlocked and flashed TWRP on my tf300 (with the OTA JB update) this morning, and everything is working fine. I also flashed a root file without any issue.
I reflashed TWRP and re-rooted it seems to be OK.
Then I found I couldn't get any ROMs to work - they all froze at the boot screen. The solution to that problem lies in flashing the US update of JB rather that the WW. Now I'm running Hydro with Untermensch's kernel.
One thing I did notice with TWRP 2.3 is I get the error "can't mount /storage" in the log whenever I do anything. A bit of research suggests this might be an issue with TWRP 2.3, not present in 2.2. I wonder if that is what was causing the boot loop issue I had previously.
I can't seem to find a blob of 2.2 to downgrade to so I'm living with it for now and hope it's not going to cause problems down the line.
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Good that TWRP always using the same names for a DL Link. So here is the 2.2 for JB Bootloader
If you are looking for ICS just edit the dl link .
http://techerrata.com/file/twrp2/tf300t/openrecovery-twrp-2.2.2.0-tf300tg-JB.blob
As of today, I have decided to stop waiting to unlock and get rid of this very crappy kernel and firmware. I am at at .30
is there anything I should backup before my unlock (DRM, bootloader...any partition)?
can the native linux for tf700 raw read the first portion of the flash ? dd?
is there any information i need to know to minimize bricking chances apart from the (custom reboot to recovery commands issue)?
CWM or TWRP?
have any jtag points been found ?
AbdouRetro said:
As of today, I have decided to stop waiting to unlock and get rid of this very crappy kernel and firmware. I am at at .30
is there anything I should backup before my unlock (DRM, bootloader...any partition)?
can the native linux for tf700 raw read the first portion of the flash ? dd?
is there any information i need to know to minimize bricking chances apart from the (custom reboot to recovery commands issue)?
CWM or TWRP?
have any jtag points been found ?
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There is not much to do when locked, but once unlocked, use TWRP, not CWM, because there is a wiping the wrong partition issue, and perform a nandroid backup of the stock rom. Since you are not on ICS .26 or earlier, you cannot use NVFLASH. To minimize bricking, always follow the threads and keep your boot loader and recovery compatible.
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I was using an iphones for 3 years and learnt all about jailbreaking and unlocking and then I made a switch to android in 2013. I got myself a nexus 4 and stock android was good enough for me and I used my nexus 4 till it gave up very recently. With the nexus 4 I never really cared about rooting the phone for whatever reasons and now with the Oneplus I am very interested to start customizing it. The only problem is my knowledge on rooting phones, flashing, custom roms and kernels are 0. I don't even know what people mean by those things. Yes, a complete noob but I can learn pretty quickly and follow instructions well. So where do I start now?
Any help is appreciated.
First thing to do is unlock your bootloader, then install TWRP recovery, then make a backup of your stock ROM. From there you can root your stock ROM or you can flash a custom ROM, or you can just leave it as is. But the most important thing is to unlock your bootloader now, before you really start using the device because it wipes all user data during the unlock process. I have a guide thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2839471
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I was like you a couple of months back. I'll tell you this, before you start anything make sure you do a back up. That's the most important thing. From there on you can do whatever your heart desires. As my friend above has stated unlock the boot loader, install a custom recovery and you're ready to go.unlocking the boot loader will allow you to install a custom recovery. You need the custom recovery to flash zip files such as ROMs and kernels etc. I hope this helped !
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Thank you guys! That helped.
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First thing to do is unlock your bootloader, then install TWRP recovery, then make a backup of your stock ROM. From there you can root your stock ROM or you can flash a custom ROM, or you can just leave it as is. But the most important thing is to unlock your bootloader now, before you really start using the device because it wipes all user data during the unlock process. I have a guide thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2839471
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So I did as it said on the video by xda developers. I did everything and the phone seems to be working fine except for the fact that it isn't rooted properly. I download ROM Toolbox and it gave me a warning message saying no root access found. Then I downloaded Root Checker from playstore and verified my root and it says my phone hasn't been rooted properly.
I manually rooted my phone by using TWRP custom recovery + SuperSU.
Edit: Did a clean up within SuperSU & installed it again using google play and now it works properly. The only thing that was different this time I was prompted to install the binries which I wasn't asked to when I used TWRP to install SuperSu.
[Q] So I got the OnePlus One. What next?
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Enjoy it It's a great phone, take it easy read, read and read again BEFORE doing anything. Make sure you have the right files for the right phone. Always do a backup before doing any changes.
I have a locked bootloader but I rooted my tablet. I wanted to do a backup but realized that CWM is asking for the recovery. It has been a few years since I rooted my last device and I am trying to look to see next steps.
Am I supposed to reboot into recovery or something? I believe with my locked bootloader I cannot install roms?
Any help is appreciated and I will continue to search for my answered as well.
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Do you have a custom recovery (e.g. CWM, TWRP, etc.)? If you want to reboot into the stock recovery I'm not sure that'll help you with backup options at all. To install a custom recovery you do need to unlock your bootloader. A quick search will give you quite a few how-to threads that have been started for this device. Cheers