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So if we are unlocked and rooted on 1.82 as well. If I was to upgrade to 1.85 it will make it so I will not have root again.. But once unlocked always? Or would we have to Re-root, Re-unlock etc all over again. Also have the CWM installed and working aswell.
Sorry for the noobish Questions.
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So if we are unlocked and rooted on 1.82 as well. If I was to upgrade to 1.85 it will make it so I will not have root again.. But once unlocked always? Or would we have to Re-root, Re-unlock etc all over again. Also have the CWM installed and working aswell.
Sorry for the noobish Questions.
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Not quite so noobish...I'm a bit hazy on the matter as well and I've been following the 1.85 RUU, unlocking, and rooting threads very closely.
What I understand is that from 1.82/rooted/unlocked you must first relock the bootloader to be able to use the 1.85 RUU. After that you must root using one of the 2 known methods (both are a bit complicated) and then do the unlock process again but your modified CID should still be modified so you don't have to go through hex editing again.
Take that with a grain of salt, I may be wrong.
So with that said. We might just hold off till a rom hits the site vs. upgrading to 1.85. I already been though 20 or so flashing etc redoing apps etc it's a good 1-2hr getting everything back to normal after a wipe.
So once we start getting hit with ROMS are the fixes/patches imported into them or 'Based' of a certain ROM then forcing us to update the RUU then redo everything once again. Ugh my brain is about to explode. However being with iPhone from the start and figuring everything out this brings back all the command-line fun like old times once again!
To the Dev's Thanks for you hard work keep it up and Monster Energy will name a drink after you!
thcue said:
So with that said. We might just hold off till a rom hits the site vs. upgrading to 1.85. I already been though 20 or so flashing etc redoing apps etc it's a good 1-2hr getting everything back to normal after a wipe.
So once we start getting hit with ROMS are the fixes/patches imported into them or 'Based' of a certain ROM then forcing us to update the RUU then redo everything once again. Ugh my brain is about to explode. However being with iPhone from the start and figuring everything out this brings back all the command-line fun like old times once again!
To the Dev's Thanks for you hard work keep it up and Monster Energy will name a drink after you!
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ROMs are usually based on Android versions, not individual stock builds. Right now they are based on builds because they are just scripts that run and replace parts of the system. You won't have to worry about the RUU anymore either, it will just be a tool to return you to stock in case things go awry. If you want good examples of ROMs and how installing them works and such, I suggest going to the Samsung Captivate dev forum and looking there. I had that device and it turns 2 years old this year.
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Not quite so noobish...I'm a bit hazy on the matter as well and I've been following the 1.85 RUU, unlocking, and rooting threads very closely.
What I understand is that from 1.82/rooted/unlocked you must first relock the bootloader to be able to use the 1.85 RUU. After that you must root using one of the 2 known methods (both are a bit complicated) and then do the unlock process again but your modified CID should still be modified so you don't have to go through hex editing again.
Take that with a grain of salt, I may be wrong.
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To add a little clarity. You got an unlock token already you don't need another. My process was I was on 1.73 and rooted that and unlocked. Then to go to 1.85 I relocked ran the ruu. After that I used my token to unlock again and was able to install cwm recovery and with that I pushed root to the phone. So I'm unlocked and rooted on the latest release.
Thanks for the quick lesson on hows its done. saves me the time of reading through the who thread in the dev section.
Ahh so what your saying is..
Now that we used a Token for the HTCdev site we could..
Relock, upload to 1.85, Reroot, and then back to the HTCdev site and use the token we used before to unlock?
Hope all that made sense.
No you just rerun the unlock command using the unlock.bin file you already have.
-Digs in his pockets-
Wait? Whaat?
Haha I have that where? In the recovery though fastboots?
Don't over think it. You just unlock again running the fastboot command you used to unlock the first time.
So Guys black friday is around the corner and I plan to upgrade from my dated HTC Aria. I'm obviously looking at the HOX and the S3 and just by personal preference am leaning towards the HOX (ATT version). However what is really worrying me is that the HOX seems to be locked down quite a bit. I'm not a dev or anything I just want to be able to flash custom rom and experience senseless android in jellybean. So I have some questions...
1) If I buy a HOX with the 2.02 version what are my options rooting wise or am I just screwed?
2) I'm coming from a rooted Aria where rom flashing was easy with clockworkmod recovery. I been lurking this forum and it seems like a painful process now and what is this boot.img thing.
3) Also if anyone isn't to annoyed by my lack of knowledge could you explain what the "S-ON/S-OFF" is as well as the limitation with the fact that HTC locked the boot loader?
I like the HOX but am getting scared away by the fact that this phone is so locked up.
sunny342 said:
So Guys black friday is around the corner and I plan to upgrade from my dated HTC Aria. I'm obviously looking at the HOX and the S3 and just by personal preference am leaning towards the HOX (ATT version). However what is really worrying me is that the HOX seems to be locked down quite a bit. I'm not a dev or anything I just want to be able to flash custom rom and experience senseless android in jellybean. So I have some questions...
1) If I buy a HOX with the 2.02 version what are my options rooting wise or am I just screwed?
2) I'm coming from a rooted Aria where rom flashing was easy with clockworkmod recovery. I been lurking this forum and it seems like a painful process now and what is this boot.img thing.
3) Also if anyone isn't to annoyed by my lack of knowledge could you explain what the "S-ON/S-OFF" is as well as the limitation with the fact that HTC locked the boot loader?
I like the HOX but am getting scared away by the fact that this phone is so locked up.
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First off, when you get it rooted... DONT FLASH ICJ.
Second, when you get it downgrade you hboot via the JET tool or manually through the WIP Unbrick evita thread by Absolutelygrim. Then in the JET tool thread, you'll find a way to RUU down grade. Choose 1.85 Then you won't have to worry about flashing the boot.img in fastboot. All that is, is a way to bypass AT&T's safe gaurd programming. They tried to make it so the boot.img couldn't be formed in recovery. That's only with the 2.20 firmware though.
Third, IDK. I'm still learning why S-OFF is like gold. Someone else might be able to answer that one but, not me.
1) 2.20 firmware is fully rootable, and has been for a few weeks now. Worries about there not being a root method for 2.20 are outdated, and no longer apply.
2) First off, CWM is not recommended for this device. It never officially supported the Snapdragon S4 variant, and was just a port, with serious known issues. A different custom recovery, TWRP is recommended, and works great.
With the 1.14 hboot that comes with the 2.20 firmware, the hole by which boot.img was flashed via recovery was plugged. So whenever you flash a new ROM, you need to extract boot.img from the ROM zip, and flash it separately via fastboot (phone connected to your PC). Or as previously mentioned, you can downgrade the hboot to eliminate this step.
Aside from that, flashing ROMs on TWRP is just as easy as CWM on your Aria (once you have bootloader unlocked and TWRP installed).
3) S-Off means all security off. It hasn't yet been achieved yet on this device. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can flash ROMs and other mods. With a downgraded hboot, you can flash radios. So there isn't much that S-Off would give you, that isn't already possible. Being able to get SIM unlock for free might be possible with S-Off, as well as turning off the warning flag that the bootloader was unlocked. But for the most part, that is really it. For most uses, S-Off simply is not needed. S-On and bootloader unlock fulfills most needs.
All that said, are you aware the One X+ is being released by AT&T tomorrow? It features a slightly faster CPU/GPU and much more internal storage. Unless you are on a budget, that is probably the phone I would go for at this point. But I think it also remains to be seen about root and bootloader unlock for the One X+.
Another aria convert, yay. As stated above, you shouldn't have any concerns about this device. TWRP is actually much easier to use than CWM. The flashing boot.IMG separately is something you won't need to do once you downgrade the firmware.
And as said above, I'd just get a one x+ if I had the money. We only get 9.93GB of SD storage space on this phone.
Sent from my HTC One XL
Hello guys, i am also thinking about getting this phone, but i've been searching this forum and it seems that flashing ROMs is a bit complicated, and i'm not sure..
What are the pros and cons of unlocking the bootloader? could i brick the phone by doing that?
Is there a guide for noobies like me, a tutorial or something? sorry.. i'm new to this.. :fingers-crossed:
p3terr said:
Hello guys, i am also thinking about getting this phone, but i've been searching this forum and it seems that flashing ROMs is a bit complicated, and i'm not sure..
What are the pros and cons of unlocking the bootloader? could i brick the phone by doing that?
Is there a guide for noobies like me, a tutorial or something? sorry.. i'm new to this.. :fingers-crossed:
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Would you be getting the AT&T version, or another variant?
Setting the phone up for flashing ROMs is a bit more complicated than some other manufacturers. But this is just how it is for HTC, they have an increasing degree of security on their phones.
You have to unlock the bootloader, which really isn't all that hard. Then install custom recovery and you can flash ROMs. The AT&T version has the extra steps of temp root, SuperCID before you can unlock the bootloader.
Once the phone is setup, flashing ROMs is just like any other phone. With the exception of having to extract boot.img from the ROM zip and flashing via fastboot. But I believe this only applies to the AT&T version with the 1.14 hboot. Even so, you can downgrade the hboot, so you don't have to do the extra step of manually flashing boot.img.
Bricking the phone while unlocking the bootloader is unlikely. But its always a possibility with any mods. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone (not really an issue if you are doing it right away after buying) and you also have to confirm that you understand that unlocking the bootloader may void your warranty. Other than that, there is no real "con" to it.
I just finished unlocking bootloader, rooting, installing venom Rom and putting beastmode custom kernel on my [email protected] hox. It's easy now even with 2.2. Just download the all in one tool kit found in the stickied thread for the hox. Does almost all work for you.
Flashing Rom there after word was very similar to cwm was. Loaded it on my internal storage and flashed via recovery
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redpoint73 said:
1) 2.20 firmware is fully rootable, and has been for a few weeks now. Worries about there not being a root method for 2.20 are outdated, and no longer apply.
2) First off, CWM is not recommended for this device. It never officially supported the Snapdragon S4 variant, and was just a port, with serious known issues. A different custom recovery, TWRP is recommended, and works great.
With the 1.14 hboot that comes with the 2.20 firmware, the hole by which boot.img was flashed via recovery was plugged. So whenever you flash a new ROM, you need to extract boot.img from the ROM zip, and flash it separately via fastboot (phone connected to your PC). Or as previously mentioned, you can downgrade the hboot to eliminate this step.
Aside from that, flashing ROMs on TWRP is just as easy as CWM on your Aria (once you have bootloader unlocked and TWRP installed).
3) S-Off means all security off. It hasn't yet been achieved yet on this device. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can flash ROMs and other mods. With a downgraded hboot, you can flash radios. So there isn't much that S-Off would give you, that isn't already possible. Being able to get SIM unlock for free might be possible with S-Off, as well as turning off the warning flag that the bootloader was unlocked. But for the most part, that is really it. For most uses, S-Off simply is not needed. S-On and bootloader unlock fulfills most needs.
All that said, are you aware the One X+ is being released by AT&T tomorrow? It features a slightly faster CPU/GPU and much more internal storage. Unless you are on a budget, that is probably the phone I would go for at this point. But I think it also remains to be seen about root and bootloader unlock for the One X+.
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I am aware of the One X+ but I am on a budget and the slight performance boost to me doesn't justify the price. Radio shack will have the HOX for free on blackfriday. Also thanks for the answers to the questions your comment cleared up alot for me.
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Another aria convert, yay. As stated above, you shouldn't have any concerns about this device. TWRP is actually much easier to use than CWM. The flashing boot.IMG separately is something you won't need to do once you downgrade the firmware.
And as said above, I'd just get a one x+ if I had the money. We only get 9.93GB of SD storage space on this phone.
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ARIA FTW lol. I need the upgrade to the HOX. Only 9.9GB sucks pretty bad but I can make it work. If only I too had the money for the one X+
You don't need to wait for black friday to get the HOX for free. It's currently free on ATT on Amazon Wireless, and has been for a couple weeks.
If you follow instructions properly and read up on everything necessary, unlocking, rooting, and flashing the HOX is a breeze; 2.20 only introduces one additional, straightforward step.
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You don't need to wait for black friday to get the HOX for free. It's currently free on ATT on Amazon Wireless, and has been for a couple weeks.
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Im eligible for a qualified upgrade on my family plan so I can't take advantage of the new contract deal.
Hello community!! I have been reading through the site for a couple of days now, and I'm still confused which rooting method to use since the At&t, and Rogers are mixed together. Sometimes the techniques used are interchanged, sometimes not. Well my question, or problem is is that I am trying to root the Rogers HTC OneX, running the latest installed updates, which are;
Android version
4.1.1
HTC Sense version
4+
Software/build numer
3.17.631.2
HTC SDK API level
4.63
Kernel version
3.4.10-g240d4d5
I'm trying to achieve root because I want to remove bloatware from my phone.I do not know how to achieve root to do this, I don't mind temporary root, aslong as it keeps the changes I made during that root session. I've read around, and some of the posts that are relevant to my problem are outdate by almost 7 months, with users claiming they're having problems with the method given, and these links were directed from a page that was only edited a couple days ago, so it's a bit confusing, especially when At&t, and Rogers are always jumbled around interchangeably. Anyways,I'd love up-to-date instructions on how to succesfully root this phone. Do I need to unlock the bootloader first? If I have to unlock the bootloader, fine(I know..HTCDev), would someone also provide me a way to unroot aswell, and lock the bootloader back up for a smooth stock startup, incase I want to sell the phone some day? My goal is to get root, remove bloatware, and be able to restore to stock when needed.
This wonderful community's posts also helped me root my Rogers Samsung Galaxy S3!!!
Sent you a pm a little bit ago good job asking questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33189590
Here is the oneclick method.
Now as for your software this could be tricky... This may or may not work cause you have the latest build from htc. The latest exploit developed is for 2.20. I cant think of any issues of trying this. I just simply may not take. Use at your own risk kind of thing though.
Sent from my HOX w/CM10.1
When i first started all this even after reading tones of posts i was so CONFUSED but all well its fine!
The one suggested above me might be confusing for you just use this!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957193
Go to that site Download the SDK from the site they provide you then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859478
Go here and follow the How to Unlock the Bootloader (When your on HTC DEV.com skip to number 8 Just go to the SDK folder and press shift + right click in the folder click open Command windows here. and then follow the steps from 8) Make sure you are in Fastboot mood by turning off you phone then when its off hold Power + Volume down until the screen comes up and click bootloader then your good!
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Sent you a pm a little bit ago good job asking questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33189590
Here is the oneclick method.
Now as for your software this could be tricky... This may or may not work cause you have the latest build from htc. The latest exploit developed is for 2.20. I cant think of any issues of trying this. I just simply may not take. Use at your own risk kind of thing though.
Sent from my HOX w/CM10.1
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I tried running that program(TOOL] HTC One X (Evita) All-In-One Toolkit V2.1 [1-22-2013] [PERM), but my CID keeps coming back ROGER001, instead of 11111111, therefore the included exploit does not work, But if I manually unlock it through HTCdev, can I resume the steps through that program? Thanks!!
PS: I found out my hboot version is 1.94.000
I unlocked my bootloader through the HTCdev site successfully. Now i'm stuck on actually granting myself root. I've used a couple of files thrown around here, but nothing seems to work. Even temporary root that keeps changes. Anyone?
Once you are bootloader unlocked. Install twrp I believe you need 2.3.3.1 on your firmware and then flash a superuser zip
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rrowe1980 said:
I unlocked my bootloader through the HTCdev site successfully. Now i'm stuck on actually granting myself root. I've used a couple of files thrown around here, but nothing seems to work. Even temporary root that keeps changes. Anyone?
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On the second Site i sent you scroll down abit and you will see How to install TWRP custom recorvery do that and then you will be good. after that download SuperUser ZIp and install it ( once again scroll down on the page and look how to install a custom ROM) for the Custom ROM part there are better tutorials that you can find on this site but yeah.
subarudroid said:
Sent you a pm a little bit ago good job asking questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33189590
Here is the oneclick method.
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X-Factor exploit is not needed for the Rogers version (or any other carrier aside AT&T). And as the OP found out, don't think it works on his version, anyway.
For all other variants (besides AT&T) just unlock the bootloader via HTCDev.com, install TWRP custom recovery, and flash SU or a rooted ROM.
Good to know. Thanks! I hate att more every day. im moving to canada
Sent from my HOX w/CM10.1
So, I may have unlocked the bootloader for nothing! I also realized my hboot version was 2.14, NOT 1.94 like I thought. Will there be any harm in trying to flash TWRP, and root anyhow? Will this brick my device, or simply not take? If TWRP installs, and I push SU, and then I get undesired glitchy results, can I restore back to stock, or atleast an original Ruu? Thanks
You got is easy! Just flash recovery and superuser and your golden.
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Then you get to enjoy all the sense based jb roms you can find.
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954wrecker said:
Then you get to enjoy all the sense based jb roms you can find.
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Not very many sadly
Better than nothing, better than stock
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954wrecker said:
Better than nothing, better than stock
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You are 100% right !
Hi there i have excatly same phone with excat software versions and everything and like you, i hate to be slave of Rogers and their useless apps all around in myphone. If you could achive the rooting your phone, would you please write the steps so i can fallow them. Your help is greatly appriciated in advance,
Thank you
moonchildproject said:
Hi there i have excatly same phone with excat software versions and everything and like you, i hate to be slave of Rogers and their useless apps all around in myphone. If you could achive the rooting your phone, would you please write the steps so i can fallow them. Your help is greatly appriciated in advance,
Thank you
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I told him the steps read on page one. I helped him and it was solved.
After reading countless threads about RUUing or OTAing to the 3.18 Jellybean software, I think I know what everything means. But just to be safe, I want to confirm some things before I try anything. I have never been on a stock firmware other than when I got my phone, and it came on the 2.20 ICS software.
1. I used the SuperCID method to unlock my bootloader. I've read that having SuperCID will screw up the update to jellybean. But, I've also read that having s-off will bypass the CID check when updating, making the update work normally.
My phone has a CID of 1111111 (SuperCID), and is also s-off. Does this mean if I flash back to a stock ICS rom and OTA up to jellybean, everything will be alright? After all of the info I've sifted through, my personal answer is 'yes, everything will work.'
2. If I do proceed with an update to JB, will I still have S-off and/or a root? I've looked at the facepalm s-off thread under the Original Development section, and see no mention of a compatibility or incompatibility with Jellybean. This is the first HTC device I've ever owned, so I'm not as familiar with s-off as some of you may be. I did find this from searching the s-off thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38197741
If I recall correctly, I was running Viper XL when I s-off'd. It was a jellybean firmware at that time, probably built from the jellybean stock firmware. My personal answer to the question is 'yes, I will still be s-off, but I still don't know about a root.'
As far as a root goes, I'm at a loss of what to look for. I don't see a thread dedicated to a jellybean root, but then again, I'm not as well rounded with troubleshooting as others.
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S-off will stick until you manually undo it. Whether you ruu, flash roms, whatever. Only way to lose s-off is to do fastboot oem setsecurityflag 3. Root is software so it's set within the rom. All the custom roms have root by default. With an unlocked bootloader any rom that doesn't have root can have root by flashing su. Consider root as having administrator on windows. If you don't have windows installed there's no administrative access to have right? Hence it doesn't stick but is built into the roms you flash.
S-off eliminates security checks so you you can ruu, flash anything and there won't be any checks that say hey, this isn't the right device or hey, this bootloader is unlocked, you can't ruu..
Just make sure not to flash anything not intended for the evita.
Hopefully this makes sense.
If you have any other questions, do not hesitate to ask.
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S-off will stick until you manually undo it. Whether you ruu, flash roms, whatever. Only way to lose s-off is to do fastboot oem setsecurityflag 3. Root is software so it's set within the rom. All the custom roms have root by default. With an unlocked bootloader any rom that doesn't have root can have root by flashing su. Consider root as having administrator on windows. If you don't have windows installed there's no administrative access to have right? Hence it doesn't stick but is built into the roms you flash.
S-off eliminates security checks so you you can ruu, flash anything and there won't be any checks that say hey, this isn't the right device or hey, this bootloader is unlocked, you can't ruu..
Just make sure not to flash anything not intended for the evita.
Hopefully this makes sense.
If you have any other questions, do not hesitate to ask.
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Thanks, this pretty much answered all of my questions so if I just wanted a rooted stock rom, I would just follow the steps in the root guide that involve pushing and installing the su binary, and ignore the extra ones that involve changing the CID?
I can't seem to find any links to stock rooted for ICS (it's a preference to me over JB, sorry ) anymore. My thoughts were to run the 2.20 RUU and root it, which seems like a valid option based on your response
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Ics is obsolete. If you really want stock rooted Ics.
You're correct.
Run an ics ruu
Flash twrp, flash su
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tyessen said:
My phone has a CID of 1111111 (SuperCID), and is also s-off. Does this mean if I flash back to a stock ICS rom and OTA up to jellybean, everything will be alright? After all of the info I've sifted through, my personal answer is 'yes, everything will work.'
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If the goal is JB, then I'd recommend the JB RUU, rather than the OTA. RUU is a much cleaner and problem-free install.
'yes, everything will work' is a bit too presumptive to me. You can never be sure that everything will be okay. Modding your phone always has its risks, even under the safest of circumstances. But S-off will prevent the particular case of a (virtually guaranteed) brick caused by installing the RUU or OTA with SuperCID + S-on.
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If the goal is JB, then I'd recommend the JB RUU, rather than the OTA. RUU is a much cleaner and problem-free install.
'yes, everything will work' is a bit too presumptive to me. You can never be sure that everything will be okay. Modding your phone always has its risks, even under the safest of circumstances. But S-off will prevent the particular case of a (virtually guaranteed) brick caused by installing the RUU or OTA with SuperCID + S-on.
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I didn't mean everything as in it will be right out of the box, no errors or problems by that, sorry. I meant that the flash/RUU would complete successfully and I would be running a stock firmware again.
And like I said, I've never ran the official JB firmware, so I'll give it a try and see how the battery holds out. I know ICS had a much better life than other JB custom roms out there, but then again, custom means extra (most of the time).
So, maybe I'll just head straight for the jellybean RUU instead. My only concern is that the h-boot would update, and that sets off a little flag in my head with s-off problems (even though it was confirmed it would stay in place until I manually went back to s-on).
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tyessen said:
I didn't mean everything as in it will be right out of the box, no errors or problems by that, sorry. I meant that the flash/RUU would complete successfully and I would be running a stock firmware again.
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Again, I would never assume that everything will be "completely successful". Even running the RUU under safest of circumstances has its risks. People have bricked their phones running the RUU with a completely stock device. However, its very unlikely.
S-off removes the particular issue of a near automatic brick if you have SuperCID and S-on. There should be no other particular high risk factors, that are currently known and within your control (which is what I think you are trying to get at). You will most likely be okay. But its impossible to remove all risk. Anything that updates hboot and radio has the risk of bricking the device, if it everything does not go exactly right. But aside from being sure you don't mess with the phone or computer while its flashing, its just an unlikely random event, outside of your control.
tyessen said:
And like I said, I've never ran the official JB firmware, so I'll give it a try and see how the battery holds out. I know ICS had a much better life than other JB custom roms out there, but then again, custom means extra (most of the time).
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I would not jump to the conclusion that ICS has better battery life JB (custom or otherwise). I'd say that quite a few people have had better battery life on JB. There are lots of variables at play. Simply RUUing to the newer radio might improve your battery life. Or might even make it worse.
Battery life is always better experienced for yourself, rather than taking for granted what you read from others.
Hi,
I'm still on 4.4.2 and wish to backup, S-OFF, root, and upgrade to 5.x (open to trying a custom ROM). I'm completely new to this and have a couple questions:
In what order should things be done? My guess is the order listed above?
Can I just follow the instructions in the stickies (firewater, etc), or are they out of date?
If upgrading to a non-Sense ROM, will software (camera, sound, etc) work as well?
If you have any tips/suggestions/advice/things you wish you'd known, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
1.Go here.
Download APP/EXE version (which i did).
Follow the instruction & flash the exe ruu.If you encounter problem when flashing,just flash this latest hboot & reflash the app exe ruu.Do this only if you encount with any flashing error.
Let it reboot.That's all .
2.No matter which rom you are flasing SENSE or SENSLESS,just flash the latest firmware first.Then you can flash any rom.
Before you go loading RUUs I would recommend turning s-off first. For that you have to use sunshine. Firewater is discontinued and won't work even if you have the files. You would have to run sunshine BEFORE upgrading to lollipop because it hasn't (yet) been updated to work on the lollipop update. Hope this isn't too late of advice.
Caspid said:
Hi,
I'm still on 4.4.2 and wish to backup, S-OFF, root, and upgrade to 5.x (open to trying a custom ROM). I'm completely new to this and have a couple questions:
Can I just follow the instructions in the stickies (firewater, etc), or are they out of date?
If upgrading to a non-Sense ROM, will software (camera, sound, etc) work as well?
If you have any tips/suggestions/advice/things you wish you'd known, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
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Hi,
Follow this xda thread to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/general/guide-how-to-root-10-5-1-0-283-t2872873.
After rooting, install NUT's dual recovery. Then download pre-rooted zip for Android 5.0.2 from development section and flash through revovery.
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SurenderK said:
Hi,
Follow this xda thread to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/general/guide-how-to-root-10-5-1-0-283-t2872873.
After rooting, install NUT's dual recovery. Then download pre-rooted zip for Android 5.0.2 from development section and flash through revovery.
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These instructions are for a different phone. It's the same for the M8?
cntryby429 said:
Before you go loading RUUs I would recommend turning s-off first. For that you have to use sunshine. Firewater is discontinued and won't work even if you have the files. You would have to run sunshine BEFORE upgrading to lollipop because it hasn't (yet) been updated to work on the lollipop update. Hope this isn't too late of advice.
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What, really? Even for 4.4.2? I thought sunshine was only required for later versions.
Caspid said:
These instructions are for a different phone. It's the same for the M8?
What, really? Even for 4.4.2? I thought sunshine was only required for later versions.
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So I don't know what that guy is talking about. Steer clear of that advice.
The only way to unlock the bootloader of a Verizon m8 is sunshine and it also turns s-off which is sweet. Firewater worked for older versions, I actually used it myself many months ago. Shortly after sunshine released for the m8 they turned off the online part of Firewater. Sunshine does cost $25 but I donated more than that as a thanks for Firewater, it seems fair.
Once s-off you will be able to do pretty much whatever you want, flash recovery (which can then flash custom roms), upgrade firmware, downgrade firmware, flash radios, etc. However this also means that you can brick your phone if you don't know what you're doing. Definitely don't go following instructions instructions for another phone.
It you don't mind sense, flashing doddat's stock rooted RUU is a one step process and you're done.
If you want bloat removed, the ability to make nandroid, and the many features of custom roms then you need to flash TWRP recovery and you can go to town. If you want bloat removed then there are some pretty good sense based roms. I ran viper Rom for a while and was pretty happy. Then there's gpe and cm based roms. As far as I know most are pretty bug free.
Just be careful. Like I said, s-off allows you to do both awesome and detrimental things to your phone. Know what you're doing, how to do it, and most importantly how to undo it before you do anything.
cntryby429 said:
So I don't know what that guy is talking about. Steer clear of that advice.
The only way to unlock the bootloader of a Verizon m8 is sunshine and it also turns s-off which is sweet. Firewater worked for older versions, I actually used it myself many months ago. Shortly after sunshine released for the m8 they turned off the online part of Firewater. Sunshine does cost $25 but I donated more than that as a thanks for Firewater, it seems fair.
Once s-off you will be able to do pretty much whatever you want, flash recovery (which can then flash custom roms), upgrade firmware, downgrade firmware, flash radios, etc. However this also means that you can brick your phone if you don't know what you're doing. Definitely don't go following instructions instructions for another phone.
It you don't mind sense, flashing doddat's stock rooted RUU is a one step process and you're done.
If you want bloat removed, the ability to make nandroid, and the many features of custom roms then you need to flash TWRP recovery and you can go to town. If you want bloat removed then there are some pretty good sense based roms. I ran viper Rom for a while and was pretty happy. Then there's gpe and cm based roms. As far as I know most are pretty bug free.
Just be careful. Like I said, s-off allows you to do both awesome and detrimental things to your phone. Know what you're doing, how to do it, and most importantly how to undo it before you do anything.
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So instead of making a new thread my question is similar to the guys above. I am on 4.4.2 but already have S-off and root, TWRP installed etc. I have had the phone since launch and have been happy enough to not worry about updating or changing anything too much.
Anyhow, I am now interested in updated, I read a few months ago that 4.4.2 should update to 4.4.3 before going to 4.4.4. Is this still the case if I only want to go to 4.4.4? Still the case if I go all the way up to 5.0.1?
Second, apologies if the answer is the same as above but I just want to be sure I am clear, I am s-off already, will I need sunshine moving forward for after I updated? Or since I am s-off already will I stay that way and be able to root without any additional steps after updating?
Resputan said:
So instead of making a new thread my question is similar to the guys above. I am on 4.4.2 but already have S-off and root, TWRP installed etc. I have had the phone since launch and have been happy enough to not worry about updating or changing anything too much.
Anyhow, I am now interested in updated, I read a few months ago that 4.4.2 should update to 4.4.3 before going to 4.4.4. Is this still the case if I only want to go to 4.4.4? Still the case if I go all the way up to 5.0.1?
Second, apologies if the answer is the same as above but I just want to be sure I am clear, I am s-off already, will I need sunshine moving forward for after I updated? Or since I am s-off already will I stay that way and be able to root without any additional steps after updating?
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I recall that idea of necessary incremental upgrades being passed around for my previous HTC device, the Rezound. I suspect that it's not true although I certainly don't know enough to support that statement. My suspicion is that if you were to flash any of the RUUs which were posted by dottat you will successfully boot any of our official software versions regardless of what version you're coming from. This presumes the prerequisite that you're s-off in order to permit downgrading (if you choose) and/or use of some of his s-off-required RUUs. With as full-proof as those RUUs seem to be, the worst case scenario is that your device bootloops requiring another RUU. I don't know that you're at all too much risk of bricking your phone provided you are flashing files that are meant for your exact model (be weary of flashing international/AT&T RUUs and such to a verizon phone) and are following instructions.
Regarding sunshine, as long as you don't issue specific fastboot commands to relock the bootloader or turn s-on, then you should have no further use for Sunshine. The only reason I can see someone taking updates incrementally is if they want to take them OTA. However, if you're s-off then I would highly recommend just using an RUU. None of the RUUs or firmware update zips will relock the bootloader or turn s-on. I can think of very few reasons to do either of those with the exception of returning to full stock for a warranty return. I believe that all of the RUUs will restore stock recovery, but since they don't relock the bootloader, you can always just flash back your custom recovery via fastboot or bootloader and re-root your stock rom. Alternatively, once you have a custom recovery you can flash any one of the many custom roms which will almost certainly come pre-rooted.