Unlimited data! Unlimited calling and text. Not really, after only 3 weeks with Simple Mobile, I find myself in a position with no wifi and having to rely on Simple's 4G. Not even 24 hours later, I have been throttled to a useless crawl. I asked on numerous occasions if in fact high speed data was unlimited and every time the answer was yes. So, I call customer support and the the only answer I get is a reading from the terms and conditions of the contract, which remember, doesn't exist either. So in a nutshell, unlike the larger carriers that at least tell you in fine print how much high speed data you can use, Simple simply decides when you've had enough. Is there ANY truth in advertising anymore?
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mustangtim49 said:
Unlimited data! Unlimited calling and text. Not really, after only 3 weeks with Simple Mobile, I find myself in a position with no wifi and having to rely on Simple's 4G. Not even 24 hours later, I have been throttled to a useless crawl.
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well t-mobile says the same thing, its unlimited in the amount of data i can download but once i go past the 5gb on my plan i get throttled. i still get unlimited data, its just slow now and not at 4g speed, i pay no overages
still sucks though
That's what I'm saying, at least you know what you payed for. I'm sorry, my battery died mid post and I couldn't finish. Op is finished now
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ahhh makes more sense now, i see what you mean
so you pay the $60 unlimited plan and they cut you off? yeah i call BS on that one, it says right on their page you get unlimited data, says nothing about throttling or data limits
Exactly, and when I said that the only answer I got was from the crickets. Only because I had an increase in data usage, they throttled me within hours. I explained I work over the Internet and had no access to wifi, they're not really concerned with it. I'm so pissed I could scream!
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http://www.mysimplemobile.com/plans-60-unlimited.aspx
Read:
Unlimited Internet at up to 4G speeds
There's no false advertising here.
Unlimited does not mean unrestricted.
I have unlimited data. If I go past 5 GB, I get throttled, but it's still unlimited.
check out Simple's Terms & Conditions, paragraphs 15 (Misuse of Service or Device) and 16 (Our Rights to Limit or End Service or the Agreement), specifically the line that says (from para 16):
"We may impose credit, usage or other limits to your Service, suspend your Service, or block certain types of calls, messages or sessions (such as international, 900 or 976 calls), in our sole discretion and without notice."
http://www.mysimplemobile.com/Simple-Mobile-Terms-Conditions.aspx
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check out Simple's Terms & Conditions, paragraphs 15 (Misuse of Service or Device) and 16 (Our Rights to Limit or End Service or the Agreement), specifically the line that says (from para 16):
"We may impose credit, usage or other limits to your Service, suspend your Service, or block certain types of calls, messages or sessions (such as international, 900 or 976 calls), in our sole discretion and without notice."
http://www.mysimplemobile.com/Simple-Mobile-Terms-Conditions.aspx
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I rarely ever see anything positive written about Simple on these forums or anywhere else. I'm a data hog and bump up against my throttle limits at T-Mobile and Comcast. I've considered making the switch to Simple, but this thread pretty much offers confirmation that I should not even consider it. I can see myself getting throttled because I stream a lot of music or tether my tab more than usual.
Until I posted here there was no talk about throttling, if anything, I have brought it to the surface.
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Term and conditions. They reserve the right to make ANY changes to your service.
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Jeez people, is everyone a simple employee or fanboy? I'm just saying I got throttled way before even 2gigs of data. Just throwing it out there, don't think they won't throttle you.
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Jeez people, is everyone a simple employee or fanboy? I'm just saying I got throttled way before even 2gigs of data. Just throwing it out there, don't think they won't throttle you.
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I agree with you. Even if its not false advertising, its obviously intended to be vague and misleading. Seems other people have fallen backward and landed butt-first on a stick, for whatever reason.
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I agree with you. Even if its not false advertising, its obviously intended to be vague and misleading. Seems other people have fallen backward and landed butt-first on a stick, for whatever reason.
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mustangtim49 said:
Jeez people, is everyone a simple employee or fanboy? I'm just saying I got throttled way before even 2gigs of data. Just throwing it out there, don't think they won't throttle you.
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No, everyone is just competent enough to actually read the terms of service they are signing.
So, I call customer support and the the only answer I get is a reading from the terms and conditions of the contract, which remember, doesn't exist either.
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It doesn't exist right?
http://www.mysimplemobile.com/Simple-Mobile-Terms-Conditions.aspx
Is there ANY truth in advertising anymore?
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You just noticed? Welcome to corporate America.
iArtisan said:
No, everyone is just competent enough to actually read the terms of service they are signing.
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Really? I'm pretty confident that MOST people do NOT read TOS for most things they sign up for.
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Really? I'm pretty confident that MOST people do NOT read TOS for most things they sign up for.
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Everyone in the business of saving money lol
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iArtisan said:
No, everyone is just competent enough to actually read the terms of service they are signing.
It doesn't exist right?
http://www.mysimplemobile.com/Simple-Mobile-Terms-Conditions.aspx
You just noticed? Welcome to corporate America.
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Really, you're one of those tight asses that really reads the fine print. I spent 4 years reading fine print to get my bachelors Degree in literature and stare at fine print writing for this website. No, I don't read fine print, fine print is a way to get away with screwing the customer with no legal repercussions. There's enough know it alls and smart assess on this site, great, now we have another. Hey everyone, iArtisan is a Simple Mobile fanboy and believes we should all suffer from deceitful business practices because we don't have time in our busy lives to sit and spend hours going over fine print with our attorneys on retainer before signing a lousy $60 NO CONTRACT contract. Oh, did I mention I didn't get a CONTRACT smart ass? One more thing, I didn't sign anything either. Go be a smartass in your own thread, do you have any? If you do they weren't important enough to read. Really, you didn't pay attention to the fine print either, never verbally challenge a writer in their own thread, you will lose every time. Thanks.
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Cant we all just get along? on topic tho, op you have a fair point. Just because one month you use 1gb more of data doesn't mean they should throttle you. Plus you said you didn't even hit 2gb!
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Cant we all just get along? on topic tho, op you have a fair point. Just because one month you use 1gb more of data doesn't mean they should throttle you. Plus you said you didn't even hit 2gb!
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i heard its impossible or difficult to hack usb tethering on the sprint epic 4g. i might refuse the new package and keep my touch pro 2 instead.
can anyone confirm if it can or cannot be done? obviously you can hack root on the device. what do?
OP note: found this http://www.junefabrics.com/android/index.php but is there a way through ipfw or linux hackery to do it free? Like on TP2 I just load MightyROM and it works .. no issues. No costs...
Here is a way to attach a keyboard if I need to get indepth with hacking this stupid feature to work. I pay for unlimited... this is nonsense. I was excited about this phone but if I can't tether that's wack...
http://jkontherun.com/2010/02/17/how-to-add-a-usb-keyboard-to-an-android-phone/
Once it's rooted then you can install wireless tether. Don't know about the timetable for that though, I just rooted my Evo this morning.
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I pay for unlimited... this is nonsense. I was excited about this phone but if I can't tether that's wack...
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No to sound like a prick, but regardless of the spirit of modifying/hacking our own devices to achieve more feature rich experiences; you should remember the moral side of this aspect.
I wish people didn't rant about this sort of stuff; I have no problem helping my fellow forum members achieve the features they seek, but when you rant like you just did, I'm forced to remind people like you that even if you do pay for unlimited data, you agreed to a contract that doesn't include unlimited data through tethering, only unlimited on your phone. No if's, and's or but's about it.
So please, next time, just keep that sort of opinion to yourself. People like me will help you out anyways. We don't need to know what side of the morality issue you are on.
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No to sound like a prick, but regardless of the spirit of modifying/hacking our own devices to achieve more feature rich experiences; you should remember the moral side of this aspect.
I wish people didn't rant about this sort of stuff; I have no problem helping my fellow forum members achieve the features they seek, but when you rant like you just did, I'm forced to remind people like you that even if you do pay for unlimited data, you agreed to a contract that doesn't include unlimited data through tethering, only unlimited on your phone. No if's, and's or but's about it.
So please, next time, just keep that sort of opinion to yourself. People like me will help you out anyways. We don't need to know what side of the morality issue you are on.
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Your morality points have validity, but the moment Sprint decided to use the free open license Linux based OS on their smart phones and then CHARGE extras for features that technically are built into the OS they pretty much voided any right they had to restrict network access. The only option they have is to not support the hardware if you choose to modify it.
The whole point of Linux is open and free. If they wanted to enforce an extra charge on tethering they should have gone solely with Widows OS based smartphones.
Also being on a soapbox is just as bad as ranting in my book..
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The whole point of Linux is open and free. If they wanted to enforce an extra charge on tethering they should have gone solely with Widows OS based smartphones.
Also being on a soapbox is just as bad as ranting in my book..
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He signed a contract. And the operating system they use on phones does not change the fact that they own the towers and the bandwidth. They can charge for it's use in any manner they choose. You don't have to sign the contract and use their product.
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He signed a contract. And the operating system they use on phones does not change the fact that they own the towers and the bandwidth. They can charge for it's use in any manner they choose. You don't have to sign the contract and use their product.
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And we sure didn't sign to getting rammed up the rear an extra $10 for 4G when we paid for 4G when we buy the phone. It's like buying a car that has a V8 engine then getting charged an extra $1000 monthly because the car is able to go over 110 mPh and only so many other cars can. It's all un-moralistic in some ways and IN FACT a violation/breach of the contract that subscribers originally agreed to. Contracts bind both parties not only the disadvantaged! What about when we pay for service that's not delivered as promiosed, such as outages, bad coverage areas, slow data, etc... We can go on and on about morals.
By the way, why are you even on our forum standing on a soapbox for Sprint and such. You're a troll and if that's the case, every thread on this forum has some controversy that you seem to love debating. Im sure you don't own the network, nor are you the CEO, so what's the use of you making yourself look even more idiotic? Beat it scum!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/t-mobile-to-begin-charging-overage-on-its-200mb-plans-on-august/
I don't even want to know what mobile data is gonna look like in a year.
This is hilarious. I was just fighting with a customer saying he was going to switch his four lines to tmo because it was 119 a month.
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I really hope Sprint doesn't follow the path of the other carriers.
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movingarrows said:
I really hope Sprint doesn't follow the path of the other carriers.
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It will happen. No avoiding it.
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It will happen. No avoiding it.
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There is no proof of that, pure assumption.
Aren't you in a different thread right now arguing because I'm "making a claim with no proof"? [Which I'm not but that's not the point of me asking this here]
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There is no proof of that, pure assumption.
Aren't you in a different thread right now arguing because I'm "making a claim with no proof"? [Which I'm not but that's not the point of me asking this here]
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Wait. Proof of what? What proof need there be? Sooner than later it will happen. Are you suggesting it wont? How long do you give it?
As for overages, to unlimited data (which you've seemed to confidently talk of before) something is going to give sooner than later. Would be shocking, at the rate things are going, for unlimited to last for the next couple years. Especially if that's when they complete their revision. 2-3 years ... if that long. Things change, Mox.
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Hmm, I wonder what happened to this comment from the now (properly) locked facebook thread:
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This will be my last thread in the in Evo subforum trying to help people out.
Honestly, its not in anyway deserved by people here.
Ill find another subforum next time.
Sad how a few people that could only be described as "trollers" ruin this forum.
Also, my posted older version has been downloaded 55 times. Which speaks louder then the few forum members that aren't here for anything but a fight.
Goodday Evo subforum.
Whole place needs a good /format
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Did you forget that you are still in the EVO subforums?
OK so here is my issue with all this "unlimited" data crap. I don't see how legally any company can use the term unlimited to describe a service when it clearly has limits.
By definition:
----------unlimited [uhn-lim-i-tid] adjective
----------1.not limited; unrestricted; unconfined: unlimited trade.
----------2.boundless; infinite; vast: the unlimited skies.
----------3.without any qualification or exception; unconditional.
I can understand lowering speeds. Then, technically, you are still unlimited because you are able to use as much as you want, just at lower speeds. But if they charge you for going "over" then how can it be unlimited. There must be a limit in order for you to go over it. I think that if Sprint is smart they will keep with the truly unlimited data and they will have customers flocking to them. The cost will be out weighed by the influx of new customers. Personally, if i had T-mobile right now and they tried to tell me that my unlimited plan had limits and i was going to get charged for exceeding that limit, I would sue the crap out of them for false advertising and breach of contract. It would only take a few people doing this before they would either remove the "unlimited" or stop charging for it. But this is all just my opinion and in a world full of them mine doesn't matter much. And to those who say that Sprint will eventually fall in line, you are probably right. Let's just hope it happens later, way later than sooner.
Would all of you please chill out and stop carrying on these silly internet arguments in every thread that gets posted? I'm sorry I ever thought it was funny now; it's just getting annoying.
Back on-topic, it looks to me like mobile data is inching backwards in terms of how they bill while at the same time providers strive to increase data rates. It's hard to determine why exactly this is, because if they're truly oversubscribing their networks they should be focusing on existing network expansion rather than building out new networks.
Of course, then they would be mocked for not having "4G" and would lose customers because consumers are, by and large, uneducated and see lightning striking a Verizon store in a commercial and they're sold.
It seems counter-intuitive that these companies would try so hard to get 10-20Mbps (and more) while at the same time working so hard to limit their customers to paltry consumption rates. At this point I think it's a cash grab until consumers won't accept it anymore.
I don't think that Sprint is being put in a position where it'll be forced to do start limiting consumption. There are no indications that their network is oversubscribed; quite the contrary. Considering that Sprint has almost nothing else to entice people to switch at this point, killing its unlimited plans would be a nail in the company's coffin. Until/unless they get something else to bring in customers, I think we're going to have unlimited plans for a long time to come.
Frankly, I think T-Mobile is taking these steps to bring themselves more in-line with AT&T so there's less reason to disapprove the merger and customers are already acclimated to the Death Star's rates and plans.
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There is no proof of that, pure assumption.
Aren't you in a different thread right now arguing because I'm "making a claim with no proof"? [Which I'm not but that's not the point of me asking this here]
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http://www.google.com/m/url?client=...QQFjAE&usg=AFQjCNHjpR7wFthZWfDJ__i_XWj19qBfBg
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MaxCarnage said:
It seems counter-intuitive that these companies would try so hard to get 10-20Mbps (and more) while at the same time working so hard to limit their customers to paltry consumption rates. At this point I think it's a cash grab until consumers won't accept it anymore.
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This is exactly right. If enough customers complained or threatened to sue then all this would stop.
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Sorry, but that headline has a lot of spin in it. Of course "nothing is forever", and no CEO is ever going to promise that a feature is going to last forever. But as he also said, it's a great differentiator, and frankly the only one Sprint has right now because the wimax angle is all but dead and they'll be way behind the LTE curve when they finally start launching that network.
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Sorry, but that headline has a lot of spin in it. Of course "nothing is forever", and no CEO is ever going to promise that a feature is going to last forever. But as he also said, it's a great differentiator, and frankly the only one Sprint has right now because the wimax angle is all but dead and they'll be way behind the LTE curve when they finally start launching that network.
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To say that article has a lot of spin on it is an understatement.
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To say that article has a lot of spin on it is an understatement.
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I think it says the reality of the situation. Unlimited data is a marketing point, the fact that Sprint has been unable to sustain the past quality of a unlimited data network proves that.
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I think it says the reality of the situation. Unlimited data is a marketing point, the fact that Sprint has been unable to sustain the past quality of a unlimited data network proves that.
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The quality of Sprint's network does not necessarily correlate to their unilimited data offerings. It's an older network that uses outdated radio technology, and that probably contributes to their problems more than anything. A company that for a long time was losing customers in droves and has since only been able to maintain numbers is not likely to be over oversubscribed. Nothing is "proved" in your assertion, only assumed.
You're right that unlimited data is a marketing point, and the only one that Sprint has to offer. If Sprint got rid of it and started charging like the other carriers do, I am pretty certain that oversubscription would be the least of their concerns. I know I for one am not with Sprint because they have an amazing network; I am a customer because they save me money. The day that stops happening is the day I switch to another carrier with a better network. That's really what it all boils down to, and Hesse is saavy enough to realize that he doesn't have a whole lot else going for him.
You don't embark on a national advertising campaign touting your unlimited plans just to yank the carpet out from under yourself a short time later. This is Sprint's marketing campaign for the forseeable future, and I have seen nothing to dissuade me from that belief yet.
That article is not proof of anything.
BREAKING NEWS!
DAN HESSE HINTS SPRINT MAY TURN INTO A FARMING COMPANY
A few direct quotes from Sprint's CEO Dan Hesse the other day suggests that Sprint may change from mobile provider to farming company.
"Every few months we take a look, we take a look at tonnage, and we take a look at all the things we're doing to offload tonnage ... We'll just continue to monitor it," Dan said as he contemplated changing industries.
"Nothing is forever" says Dan, as he pined for his days as a farmer "[referring to moving to an all farming company] we think it's a terrific opportunity to differentiate ourselves in the market."
Hesse has a point. We've never heard of a company making such a drastic industry change. "Think of it as two different solar systems," Hesse said.
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If I posted this exact same link in "proof" of something you would troll the next 15 pages about how much spin and "proving of nothing" this link is.
Come on now.
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That article is not proof of anything.
If I posted this exact same link in "proof" of something you would troll the next 15 pages about how much spin and "proving of nothing" this link is.
Come on now.
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I don't know what you are trying to prove. Dan Hesse was quoted as saying that unlimited data is not promised forever. That's pretty much it. No spin just a quote from the man himself that its a possibility.
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Unlimited is the only thing Sprint has going good right now. Wimax is a joke. Most people are switching just for the unlimited.
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I don't know what you are trying to prove. Dan Hesse was quoted as saying that unlimited data is not promised forever. That's pretty much it. No spin just a quote from the man himself that its a possibility.
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Everything is a possibility and the quotes "nothing lasts forever" and "were constantly watching what we do every month" can be used to validate anything.
That's the point.
I would be scared of a company that didn't constantly re-evaluate it's options and policies.
I love how yet again a thread has been taken off topic.
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I don't know what you are trying to prove. Dan Hesse was quoted as saying that unlimited data is not promised forever. That's pretty much it. No spin just a quote from the man himself that its a possibility.
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Our responses are based on conqu1stador's original assertion that Sprint was likely to move away from unlimited plans sooner rather than later along with the others. There's no evidence of that being the case, other than an obscure quote from Dan Hesse saying that "nothing lasts forever" and then qualifying that statement by saying that it's their best differentiator from the other carriers right now. How that is evidence that Sprint will be dropping its unlimited plans "sooner rather than later" I don't know.
I get that there's a "trend" among the carriers towards dropping unlimited plans, but let's analyze that for a second. We really only have four big carriers; AT&T and Verizon are primarily in competition with each other so they keep their plans competitive against themselves. If AT&T drops unlimited plans, Verizon is sure to follow suit as they both go for quick cash grabs while they build out their next gen networks.
T-Mobile and Sprint were each other's main competition, but with AT&T looking to buy T-Mobile and Deutsche Telekom wanting it to happen, T-Mobile is going to slowly start aligning itself with AT&T's existing plans and policies to make the merger more streamlined.
Where does this leave Sprint? A lone wolf against two major carriers with nothing to offer other than competitive pricing; do you really see them trying to align themselves with the other carrier's pricing when they can't compete on any other level? At least against T-Mobile they have relatively comparable network coverage (though with GSM and HSDPA+ you can argue that T-Mobile has a better quality network), but other than that what is Sprint going to be able to offer against AT&T and/or Verizon?
Until or unless Sprint decides to commit corporate suicide to make itself look ripe for a buyout by Verizon, Sprint will do whatever it can to maintain its competitive pricing, and that includes its unlimited plans. There's no other reason to stick with Sprint right now. One obscure quote taken out of context doesn't prove that Sprint is going away from unlimited plans, and nothing else I have seen indicates so.
Before people jump all over this -- I know there are hundreds of threads about how at&t detects tethering and then all the moral-rich folks will get up in arms about paying for a service and to stop stealing... well I dont care. My question is simple:
If AT&T cant detect what APN an android device uses since it all transfers through the primary wireless APN... and the best they can do is say what type of site a mobile device is requesting... how can they say you are tethering?
With apps that mimic other browsers for full site browsing I feel like they really cant prove definitively what I am using. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Before people jump all over this -- I know there are hundreds of threads about how at&t detects tethering and then all the moral-rich folks will get up in arms about paying for a service and to stop stealing... well I dont care. My question is simple:
If AT&T cant detect what APN an android device uses since it all transfers through the primary wireless APN... and the best they can do is say what type of site a mobile device is requesting... how can they say you are tethering?
With apps that mimic other browsers for full site browsing I feel like they really cant prove definitively what I am using. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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If they really want to do some packet inspection they could look at something as simple as the UA string or TTL. They could watch for known background services such as AV programs calling home to check for updates or Windows update doing the same.
Well played. I thought that was considered deep packet inspection to know what is requesting what (which I thought they were banned from doing unless authorized by a gov entity)
But I will keep that in mind. I am surprised they pinged me for my 4gb use though -- seriously at&t...seriously... Makes me want to stream hulu 24/7 to truely show a data hog.
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Well played. I thought that was considered deep packet inspection to know what is requesting what (which I thought they were banned from doing unless authorized by a gov entity)
But I will keep that in mind. I am surprised they pinged me for my 4gb use though -- seriously at&t...seriously... Makes me want to stream hulu 24/7 to truely show a data hog.
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Seems like it's probably being done in some capacity - an interesting read: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20107040-266/carriers-may-be-handicapping-cell-phone-networks/
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Well played. I thought that was considered deep packet inspection to know what is requesting what (which I thought they were banned from doing unless authorized by a gov entity)
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does it really surprise you that at&t would be the company to break a federal law, then play dumb and claim ignorance?? Really?? lol
Entertaining conversation with ATT last night. Basically they stated that I have been using data for consistent periods of time... to which i responded I stream all day long which isn't against the terms. They then said their were pointers that stated I could be tethering. I said please provide me with a time period when one of these pointers occurred so I can check my usage against it. They said they don't have the ability (or willingness?) to do that.
The rep then went on to explain that using bluetooth in my car is also considering tethering
<insert WTF face here>
So apparently if you use one of those radio connectors that lets you play your music in the car..THATS TETHERING. These people are all morons. I was hoping for a legitimate explanation but got none. Basically they said well if nothing changes then i will lose my unlimited plan. I told them if they can tell me what they are seeing beyond consistent data use then I will hunt down what they are seeing and correct it. Its like saying stop walking past that street...but not giving them context to what street.
Sure I am tethering but I want them to tell me WHEN I am tethering. If they cant prove that beyond a reasonable doubt then they seriously need to reevaluate their priorities. Especially considering I max out around 4gb a month. Next month I am streaming netflix 24/7 and not tethering just to mess with them just a little more
i tether my sons ipod all the time, they don't catch that!
I saw this this morning on Flipboard, any thoughts? I would guess even custom ROMS do no good when it comes to Verizon collecting our browsing/internet habits?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...ring-customers-app-usage-web-browsing-habits/
I don't like big brother monitoring.
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I saw this this morning on Flipboard, any thoughts? I would guess even custom ROMS do no good when it comes to Verizon collecting our browsing/internet habits?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...ring-customers-app-usage-web-browsing-habits/
I don't like big brother monitoring.
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I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..
I don't see an opt out, unless its not out yet.
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I clicked it and it kept logging me out of my Verizon account and just showing the main splash page.
Mystikalrush said:
I don't see an opt out, unless its not out yet.
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Just log in to myverizon and go to privacy settings. Should bring up a page with all your lines under each section and you can select the bubble to opt out.
Custom ROM tracking?
Does this still apply to users with a custom ROM?
Brian Gove said:
I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..
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Yeah, if you don't think that Bush handed him the keys right before firmly pointing the economy at the iceberg and tying steering wheel in place before doing so, than your mistaken.. And being prior military and working in intelligence, I can tell you that every electronic ANYTHING is being archived and saved and scanned for keywords since way before Obama. Eery single one of your emails and voice conversations and IM's and posts. Hmm and who put the Patriot Act in place.. hmm.. Have a Lovely day talking to big brother.. Oh by the way.. They prefer sexting.
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Not that I want to get into a political conversation here, but I will, who made it a felony to protest, even peacefully, in front of the Secret Service? Who's had 4 years to fix said economy but has only steered it deeper into the hole. Obama has increased the national debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8.
Now I'm not a Bush fan, I'm just saying Obama is bad news. Oh, as far as the Patriot Act, who renewed it once the majority of the terrorist alarm settled down years after 9/11??
I do agree the monitoring has been going on for a long time, but it has either taken steps that no one would before or at least taken steps publicly that every other regime did in secret. If it is just the same sh*t diff pile then doing it publicly is just a slap in the face to everyone. I'd rather they try to hide it then do it and blatantly step on our rights.
Oh, one more thing, who's given illegal immigrants more rights/help than the average American who is in need of help too?
I'm pretty sure most companies track your online habbits. They claim the use it for "market research". On my phone I'm not really that bothered by it, I don't do anything on it that I want to keep private, because I don't trust how private they are.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, unless you are embarassed you look at porn on your phone. Just keep things you would like to be personal and not tracked heavily on a properly secured connection at home, and possibly use TOR if you are that paranoid and want a little extra security.
Actually, I believe there is Tor available for android. It may help cut down on what they know your doing.
yawn, who cares???
Brian Gove said:
I didn't read the full thing but google has been doing this forever and then some. they even increased how detailed/how much data they collect with the new TOS they put out recently. I'm betting the only reason Verizon is drawing more fire is because of the phone aspect of it.
Also, big brother can and does whatever they want. The government monitors all sorts of stuff that you would think would be illegal to do. Welcome to the new socialist regime under Obama..
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Ya because Obama is a king and can just do whatever he wants with no one else in government having a say.
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Yeah, let's not make this a presidential debate thread.
I've always liked Verizon, but lately I'm getting tired of them. I'm following the link to opt out.
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I swear, everybody is monitoring search and usage results nowadays...
xsteven77x said:
Ya because Obama is a king and can just do whatever he wants with no one else in government having a say.
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Wasting your time. If someone says socialist regime and Obama together.. Let it go. And consider that statement with future debates with them.
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blestsol said:
Wasting your time. If someone says socialist regime and Obama together.. Let it go. And consider that statement with future debates with them.
Gs3
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Ignorance is bliss huh?
(Oh, and by the way, you just used them in the same sentence so are you including yourself in your comment?)
Brian Gove said:
Ignorance is bliss huh?
(Oh, and by the way, you just used them in the same sentence so are you including yourself in your comment?)
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Yes. That's exactly what I meant. When someone is referring to another comment they're automatically bunched in.
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Democrat or Republican the only thing you can be sure of is they do NOT have your best interest in mind. They love that they factioned the people, makes it easier for them when we're fighting about who's the worst.
Brian Gove said:
Not that I want to get into a political conversation here, but I will, who made it a felony to protest, even peacefully, in front of the Secret Service? Who's had 4 years to fix said economy but has only steered it deeper into the hole. Obama has increased the national debt more in 4 years than Bush did in 8.
Now I'm not a Bush fan, I'm just saying Obama is bad news. Oh, as far as the Patriot Act, who renewed it once the majority of the terrorist alarm settled down years after 9/11??
I do agree the monitoring has been going on for a long time, but it has either taken steps that no one would before or at least taken steps publicly that every other regime did in secret. If it is just the same sh*t diff pile then doing it publicly is just a slap in the face to everyone. I'd rather they try to hide it then do it and blatantly step on our rights.
Oh, one more thing, who's given illegal immigrants more rights/help than the average American who is in need of help too?
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You may want to check your facts there....
Farabomb said:
Democrat or Republican the only thing you can be sure of is they do NOT have your best interest in mind. They love that they factioned the people, makes it easier for them when we're fighting about who's the worst.
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Best statement of the day! Now back to tech news, I hate politics.
cvsolidx17 said:
I swear, everybody is monitoring search and usage results nowadays...
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I don't mind some monitoring but when they collect everything!? That's a little overboard IMO. I want an option to op out. I don't care about their strategic advertisements for my use. I guess there's no way stop them until theyre a law suit against them.
So used straight talk for about a year, always under 2 gb data.
Get throttled today at .300 mb/s
Call customer service to have guys yelling at me and acting unimaginably rude.
Now their goons are actually insulting me on facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/StraightTalkWireless/posts/10151190630982569?comment_id=25769931¬if_t=feed_comment_reply
I've been a good customer for almost a year, and recommended their service but no more.
These stories are exactly the same as what I went through.
Buyer beware
http://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/Straight+Talk
Melanie Irene Drinkwater This is why I don't work for phone companies for stupid people like you.
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I dont think that the people replying to you were actual employees, were they? It seems as though they are just random users who also liked the page and saw your post.
Randoms trolling u pretty hard
Dude, I highly doubt they work for the company. They're just random people on Facebook and you did kinda freak out at them for no reason.
ermagerd, TOS. I've linked people to them before - from T-Mobile, Verizon, and Sprint in recent memory - and I sure don't work for all of them. Not even one. I'm a biology student who has weird hobbies like reading legalese for the lulz (also called, "anything to procrastinate more is fascinating").
I mean, I post here but I don't work here. I post on tons of forums and give tons of advice about everything from piercings to fish care to making movie props. Facebook is just like a degenerate forum. People are bored - doesn't mean they work for anything related to what they're blabbing about.
Troll them back...
larjohn said:
Troll them back...
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Have to wonder if that's the case from the start.
guitarplayerone said:
So used straight talk for about a year, always under 2 gb data.
Get throttled today at .300 mb/s
Call customer service to have guys yelling at me and acting unimaginably rude.
Now their goons are actually insulting me on facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/StraightTalkWireless/posts/10151190630982569?comment_id=25769931¬if_t=feed_comment_reply
I've been a good customer for almost a year, and recommended their service but no more.
These stories are exactly the same as what I went through.
Buyer beware
http://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/Straight+Talk
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Wow. Almost as bad as Cricket. Except Cricket's CSRs are dumb as rocks.
This thread makes no sense. Those weren't Straight Talk employees. So Wtf were you wasting time there for? Seems you sty yourself up for the rope a dope.
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They sure didn't act like employees. They were most likely other followers of the Straight Talk page on Facebook.
Freshly_Snipes said:
This thread makes no sense. Those weren't Straight Talk employees. So Wtf were you wasting time there for? Seems you sty yourself up for the rope a dope.
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Not really, as they had my account details.
Also they were 'trolling' everyone who had a negative comment on ST's page for about four to five hours.
Notice all of the females had three names, private profiles etc.
Plus they sounded exactly like the ST CS reps.
You can think what you want.
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