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First thing's first - I'm definitely not a newb.
My phone (Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA) is depended upon for work and person use. I've been playing with a lot of custom ROMs and each and every one of them has their own little quirks.
Because of this I have seriously considered going back to stock, but I want to be sure that I can receive OTA updates.
I realize that I can get everything back to stock via RUU, HOWEVER, with SuperCID in place, would I still be able to receive OTA updates? I've read that the RUU doesn't replace the SuperCID with the shipped value.
If not, how would I get the SuperCID back to the original value (which unfortunately I don't have - phone was bought used and already rooted) ?
Thanks so much!
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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Sinistra425 said:
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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Yes it will!
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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The RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery
Sinistra425 said:
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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What about the cid??
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No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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Sinistra425 said:
No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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I'm thinking if I need to use warranty?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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you could.. but since you can easily rewrite your cid, why worry?
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
anardjai said:
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
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Are you sure for this? From what I know IF you install stock ROM from RUU, it will automatically unroot the phone, get back to S-On and of course replace your bootloader with the original one. However to be honest I don't know what happens if you install stock from clockwork recovery - maybe that way the bootloader will not be replaced and you will still have S-Off and root.
TO JWhipple: The Super CID shouldn't matter for RUU. However you could always change it back to your phone/operator version before installing RUU.
@up: not in Sensation. After installing stock with RUU, S-OFF will remain still. To get S-ON back follow this guide. I'm sure, tested on my own Sensation
What would be the right order to go with:
Do you start with changing the SuperCID back to the original one forst or would you first have to go back to S-ON?
SIMPLY TELL ME ONE THING
that can we have official update after installing the latest ruu with s-on and unroot but with super cid?????
thanks
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installing stock ruu doesnt change the phone to s-on or unroot.......but see the guide to do s-on then u might get the official updates
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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hello how r u ?
seems u got allot exp. in this i try to get back to my stock ruu rom after installing ginger bread arhd and pg53img 3.12 it stops and say error 155 what should i do to get back to stock
dexter93 said:
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
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Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
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No it is not necessary. It will be required only if your device is S-ON and RUU version is older. Just remeber that if your phone is S-OFF and you want to put it S-ON again, do that after you have flashed stock ROM.
I've just got a new sensation with s-on and h-boot 1.27.000 and official vodafone ics firmware.
I wanted to frlash arhd 6.6.2, but as long as I got there I have to s.off the phone...
But I cannot s-off the phone if it's h-boot 1.27.0000, so what do I have to do?
Search...read...wait
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I've got this message from revolutionary tool:
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| Revolutionary S-OFF & Recovery Tool 0.4pre4 |
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Brought to you by AlphaRev & unrEVOked.
Waiting for device...
Found your device: HTC Sensation Z710e (pyramid-1.27.0000, Android: 4.0.3, ROM v
ersion: 3.32.162.11)
Your device: pyramid, with HBOOT 1.27.0000 is not supported at this time.
Press (almost) any key to exit.
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In the faq I've read there is no mention about the unsupported hboot 1.27.0000...
Shall I downgrade the hboot? But how if it's not rooted nor SCID nor s-off..??
zooster said:
I've got this message from revolutionary tool:
In the faq I've read there is no mention about the unsupported hboot 1.27.0000...
Shall I downgrade the hboot? But how if it's not rooted nor SCID nor s-off..??
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Hi,
You are right.
1.27.000 is not currently supported.
You have to wait until it is...
No,there is no eta.
So basically I'm stuck with original firmware?
What can I do then, root? scid..? cwm?
zooster said:
So basically I'm stuck with original firmware?
What can I do then, root? scid..? cwm?
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Hi,
Yes,you can root and install CWM.
But you can only install ROMS with a 3.32 base(latest ICS)
So,6.6.2 is OK
Ok, thank you.
But I tried to flash the CWM taken from the guide thred putting the PG58IMG.zip in the root of the sd.
But when I start the bootloader it says wrong image...
zooster said:
Ok, thank you.
But I tried to flash the CWM taken from the guide thred putting the PG58IMG.zip in the root of the sd.
But when I start the bootloader it says wrong image...
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Hi,
Try THIS ONE
Still says wrong image....
My cid num, got with adb, is: VODAP102.
Should I insert it in android-info?
Should I super cid the phone before cwm?
Youre gonna have to unlock your bootloader by using htc's official method (google it). Then youll be able to install CWM and whatever else. There are limitations, theres a good guide in the development section about htc official bootloader unlocker. Read that before attempting.
zooster said:
Still says wrong image....
My cid num, got with adb, is: VODAP102.
Should I insert it in android-info?
Should I super cid the phone before cwm?
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Hi,
Yes,try it.
malybru said:
Hi,
Yes,try it.
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Just tried and it does not install the CWM. So do I have to unlock the bootloader with the official method?
i have same problem, im new to all this but want to root my phone. I have updated to the new ice cream sandwich through the vodafone over air update. i have looked through step guides but i dont know where to start! i have s-on so how do i get this off or do i need to?
Thanks
zooster said:
Just tried and it does not install the CWM. So do I have to unlock the bootloader with the official method?
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Yes you will have to use the HTC Dev method right now if you want to flash a custom ICS ROM being as those are the only ones you will be able to flash with the Hboot you have. But know this ahead of time the HYC De. Unlock is very different then the Revolutionary unlock. Click the link in my sig to learn mote about the HTc Dev unlock and what it allows you to do. But if I was you I would just wait until Revolutionary supports Hboot 1.27.0000, or someone comes up with a Hboot downgrade for the Sensation cause the HTC Dev method does not fully unlock all portitions except the radio portition like Revolutionary does. Plus it leaves evidence your bootloader has been unlocked so HTC can say your warranty is void. Check out this post to as it gives a little more insight on HTC Dev unlock.
So to root the device I have to CWM it, to CWM it I need to unlock the bootloader?
But, If not rooted, unlocked nor CWModded, can I just install ARHD?
Ok, let's take it the other way round:
My phone is locked, hboot 1.27.0000, S-on, cid VODAP102 and not rooted, but last official stock ics.
Now I want to install last ARHD, what should I do and how??
zooster said:
So to root the device I have to CWM it, to CWM it I need to unlock the bootloader?
But, If not rooted, unlocked nor CWModded, can I just install ARHD?
Ok, let's take it the other way round:
My phone is locked, hboot 1.27.0000, S-on, cid VODAP102 and not rooted, but last official stock ics.
Now I want to install last ARHD, what should I do and how??
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To flash AHRD you will have to have a unlocked bootloader, either by HTC Dev method or by Revolutionary method. Now as stated by you, malybru, and myself we all know Revolutionary is not compatible with Hboot 1.27.0000 (as of right now), which your device currently has. So this leaves only the HTC Dev method. Now I personally agree with others here on XDA, I would normally stay far away from unlocking via HTC Dev. But seeing as you bought your Sensation new with Hboot 1.27.0000, you really have no other alternative but to wait for Revolutionary to update or for some other means of unlocking becomes available. Also if you do manage to downgrade your Hboot you will have to use HTC Dev to do it.
Now I am in no way saying you should use HTC Dev, nor am I advocating HTC Dev. I am just trying to inform you. What you do with your device is your choice and your choice only. But what ever you do, please post back here with your decision and if applicable any results.
Also if you was wondering why you have to use HT Dev to downgrade Hboot, read this post. Yeah I know it is for GB ROMs but I imagine the same probably holds true for ICS. I mean it is the HTC Dev unlock that allowsyou to downgrade in that senario. But what do I know.
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To flash AHRD you will have to have a unlocked bootloader, either by HTC Dev method or by Revolutionary method. Now as stated by you, malybru, and myself we all know Revolutionary is not compatible with Hboot 1.27.0000 (as of right now), which your device currently has. So this leaves only the HTC Dev method. Now I personally agree with others here on XDA, I would normally stay far away from unlocking via HTC Dev. But seeing as you bought your Sensation new with Hboot 1.27.0000, you really have no other alternative but to wait for Revolutionary to update or for some other means of unlocking becomes available. Also if you do manage to downgrade your Hboot you will have to use HTC Dev to do it.
Now I am in no way saying you should use HTC Dev, nor am I advocating HTC Dev. I am just trying to inform you. What you do with your device is your choice and your choice only. But what ever you do, please post back here with your decision and if applicable any results.
Also if you was wondering why you have to use HT Dev to downgrade Hboot, read this post. Yeah I know it is for GB ROMs but I imagine the same probably holds true for ICS. I mean it is the HTC Dev unlock that allowsyou to downgrade in that senario. But what do I know.
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Do you mean by using Htc dev, i'll be able to downgrade my hboot?
My hboot is 1.27.0000 with S On.
Jalkren said:
Do you mean by using Htc dev, i'll be able to downgrade my hboot?
My hboot is 1.27.0000 with S On.
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Hi,
There is currently no way to downgrade firmware with s-on and hboot 1.27.000
malybru said:
Hi,
There is currently no way to downgrade firmware with s-on and hboot 1.27.000
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Sure, exploit H.Boot 1.27.0000 for S-Off is revolution, new model of HTC phone is same like HTC_One
****ing S-ON policy HTC because you total locked us
And that is why HTC always following behind Samsung nowadays
I'm waiting XDA revolution
Hi,
I'm new to this forum and new nothing about rooting until a few days ago...quickly discovered the fact that Revolution does not support 1.27.
I unlocked with HTC DEV, ran recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.0.9-pyramid.img using Fastboot CLI.
After that I backed up my stock Vodafone ICS ROM using CWM then switched to the XDA guide for rooting with su-2.3.6.3 and followed rest of XDA guides for installing a ROM (really useful guides - Thanks!!)
Within an hour I had gone from stock Vodafone ICS to Virtuous Inquisition-v4.0.1
I'll admit I got hooked up on flashing recovery and was given some guidance by a friendly soul but figured the rest out from this forum..
yesterday i bought new sensation xe with latest ics update. Hboot v 1.27
Is there any way to root my phone?
or how can i downgrade Hboot verson?(1.27 is not included in revolutionary.io)
or is there any way to go back to GB to root?
plz help.
as i know you have to wait.there is no rooting/soff for new ics update.
ps;- can you flash stock GB ruu ? if then you can go back to gb and soff using revolutionary
Root
Maybe this will help? blogotechblog.com/2012/04/how-to-root-htc-sensationsensation-xe-running-ice-cream-sandwich/[/url]
faxel said:
yesterday i bought new sensation xe with latest ics update. Hboot v 1.27
Is there any way to root my phone?
or how can i downgrade Hboot verson?(1.27 is not included in revolutionary.io)
or is there any way to go back to GB to root?
plz help.
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found that you cant downgrade to gb rom. so you hve to wait :x
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so sad. I have seen devs are making sense 4 roms. but still I have nothing to do...
does any one know when I can root???
Not yet you can't but I think they released one today but not tested by the masses so best you can do us wait so you don't crash your phone
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faxel said:
so sad. I have seen devs are making sense 4 roms. but still I have nothing to do...
does any one know when I can root???
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You are talking about sense 4 roms but asking for root
You can't just flash sense4 roms...just because you have root access..
If you mean getting SOFF which will render you to flash roms then ..its not possible for you right now..but there is an alternative ...but that alternative costs you your warranty(most probably)..
So decision is yours...
I recommend you to stay stock as of now if you got loads of warranty left
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hey can I use HTC super tool to root my sensation xe with hboot 1.27??
faxel said:
hey can I use HTC super tool to root my sensation xe with hboot 1.27??
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I heard of this...it contains tacoroot which is a temporary root but I heard its unstable and it only gives root access in adb..shell which wont be helpful in your case
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ganeshp said:
I heard of this...it contains tacoroot which is a temporary root but I heard its unstable and it only gives root access in adb..shell which wont be helpful in your case
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thank you for ur answer.I heard that revolutionary .io has stopped support for sensation, is that true?
Successful root method. XE OTA ICS
1. Unlock with HTC Dev
2. Download recovery-5.0.2.0-pyramid.img and flash using fastboot flash recovery rec....img
3. Download and install Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip using CWM.
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I have no root access and I know I have 0ne year warranty. BUT I want to root my phone and install custom roms like sense 4 roms... I dont want warranty any more. If this one damaged, than i will buy new one. Most important reason for buying this sensation is to root and enjoy with custom roms... I previously used desire which is rooted, but that is too old to install latest roms, thats why I bought sensation. so please kindly inform me If got any information about rooting my phone (1.27.00)new
faxel said:
I have no root access and I know I have 0ne year warranty. BUT I want to root my phone and install custom roms like sense 4 roms... I dont want warranty any more. If this one damaged, than i will buy new one. Most important reason for buying this sensation is to root and enjoy with custom roms... I previously used desire which is rooted, but that is too old to install latest roms, thats why I bought sensation. so please kindly inform me If got any information about rooting my phone (1.27.00)new
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Same situation with you and do method below and working!
*** UNLOCK ***
Sensation XE S-ON
Hboot 1.27.0000
hariadi said:
Successful root method. XE OTA ICS
1. Unlock with HTC Dev
2. Download recovery-5.0.2.0-pyramid.img and flash using fastboot flash recovery rec....img
3. Download and install Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip using CWM
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faxel said:
I have no root access and I know I have 0ne year warranty. BUT I want to root my phone and install custom roms like sense 4 roms... I dont want warranty any more. If this one damaged, than i will buy new one. Most important reason for buying this sensation is to root and enjoy with custom roms... I previously used desire which is rooted, but that is too old to install latest roms, thats why I bought sensation. so please kindly inform me If got any information about rooting my phone (1.27.00)new
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First of all don't confuse with getting "rooted" ..getting rooted will only give you complete access to your ROM..like literally doing anything with any app..also you can control your device completely.
All the custom Roms comes with root access..(see....... this root is actually part of Rom)
For you to flash custom Rom ..you essentially need unlocked bootloader...(having SOFF was mandatory earlier..but HTC started giving unlocked bootloader at the cost of your warranty..so you can Still install custom roms also sense 4 roms)
As you are fine with your warranty getting void
1. You need to unlock your bootloader from HTC dev site..(this is where you may void your warranty)
2.Then you need to flash a custom recovery..i highly recommend 4EXT recovery latest(1.0.0.5) which has smartflash mode(exclusive SON mode)
Get the recovery from this thread..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377759..
Flashing recovery has never been this easy...just download the recovery updater and install ..your recovery through an apk just don't forget to say "yes" when asked whether you are SON during installing the recovery..
3. Then after recovery is done...just download your custom ROM..keep it on root of sdcard...and flash it (by following the steps provided in OP of your custom Rom thread)
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thank you all
thank you all for kind hep. Now I am going to try.... lets see
but i couldnt find my device on HTCdev.com sensation xe asia tw
faxel said:
thank you all for kind hep. Now I am going to try.... lets see
but i couldnt find my device on HTCdev.com sensation xe asia tw
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Soff for 1.27 is possible now...
But it requires HTC unlocked bootloader and root access...so first get the above things done...i.e. unlocked bootloader and recovery done...then you can do root thing from recovery...step 3 from this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Then follow steps from this guide to soff your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611981
Njoy
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ganeshp said:
Soff for 1.27 is possible now...
But it requires HTC unlocked bootloader and root access...so first get the above things done...i.e. unlocked bootloader and recovery done...then you can do root thing from recovery...step 3 from this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Then follow steps from this guide to soff your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611981
Njoy
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I couldnt watch the video becox of slow network. so my question is when we have
to Wire Trick,? at the start or at the end? thats step 10?
faxel said:
I couldnt watch the video becox of slow network. so my question is when we have
to Wire Trick,? at the start or at the end? thats step 10?
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i haven't tried it so i cant answer you properly...but ive found an excellent guide for this
chk it out...you might find the solution
SOFF GUIDE
I am really confused
ganeshp said:
Soff for 1.27 is possible now...
But it requires HTC unlocked bootloader and root access...so first get the above things done...i.e. unlocked bootloader and recovery done...then you can do root thing from recovery...step 3 from this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Then follow steps from this guide to soff your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611981
Njoy
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I got impresion in this forum that "everything" is very simple but isn't. I have a HTC Sensation classic unlocked by htcdev with s-on and hboot 1.27 buyed from UK but I can't root it. Everybody explain that rooting is very easy but is not like 1 to 3 step . I put a "recovery" img wich let me to navigate to recovery from bootloader but when I select recovery...nothing happing ( like flashing super user.zip or other thing) just after a while is restarting. For me the bootloader unlocked from htcdev means NOTHING just a sicksea. All the respect for the guys wich are searching new modes to unlock.
manu2121 said:
I got impresion in this forum that "everything" is very simple but isn't. I have a HTC Sensation classic unlocked by htcdev with s-on and hboot 1.27 buyed from UK but I can't root it. Everybody explain that rooting is very easy but is not like 1 to 3 step . I put a "recovery" img wich let me to navigate to recovery from bootloader but when I select recovery...nothing happing ( like flashing super user.zip or other thing) just after a while is restarting. For me the bootloader unlocked from htcdev means NOTHING just a sicksea. All the respect for the guys wich are searching new modes to unlock.
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if u unlocked, than its simple.
next u have to flash recovery using adb
than install su v.3+ v2 and below does not work for me. bit above v 3 is working,,
now its done.
I currently have a desires s (S-ON, not-rooted and bootloader unlocked), I am not sure if I should downgrade to hboot 0.98 as S-OFF for this is not available right now and as the title says I want you all to tell me what to do !
I could either keep this hboot and simply unlock the boot loader, root my phone and install a custom recovery to flash roms. But that way I won't be able to S-OFF my device and hence I wouldn't be able to install all custom roms such as virtuous saga which requires S-OFF .
And If I downgrade my device, I am not sure if the kernels,radio, and other things would be that efficient plus I doubt if I would be able to install all roms, like ICS Sense 4 roms
(kinda new to all this so I don't know if I am being a noob, but I seriously need your reply on this)
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I can tell you what i did:
I unlocked my bootloader at htcdev right away when i got my desire s, then got superuser access to my phone. It was pretty fun, but I couldn't do EVERYTHING Plus, I lost parts of my warranty.
I really wanted s-off to be able to flash all roms available.
After a month or so, i did a downgrade of the hboot, with this instructions.
It worked flawlessly, although it's an hour of work or so if you're new to android. Terminal/ADB looks weird and complicating at first, but hey, you just need to copy the lines off the tutorial, it works perfect if you do as told
My advice: DON'T unlock at HTCdev (gives yo FULL warranty, even if you flash a custom rom), and just simply follow the downgrade instructions. Then you'll have full access, full warranty and no limitations at all, it's absolutely worth the downrade/s-off!
I'm running ICS now and couldn't be happier with my phone!
First of all thank you for your help on this, even I have had the same thought that its better to downgrade my phone and S-OFF it rather than keeping it S-ON.
Btw I came across anouther doubt which I guess its better to ask here instead of creating a new thread every time, : if I have to use an ruu to downgrade ny device, should my current radio (as seen in bootloader) match the ruu's radio ??
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No
Have changed my Rom twice not touched the radio firmware at all.
If it ain't broke don't fix it, also read on xda somewhere radio firmware is a local thing it may work in your area but not mine
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13th Dev said:
I could either keep this hboot and simply unlock the boot loader, root my phone and install a custom recovery to flash roms. But that way I won't be able to S-OFF my device and hence I wouldn't be able to install all custom roms such as virtuous saga which requires S-OFF .
And If I downgrade my device, I am not sure if the kernels,radio, and other things would be that efficient plus I doubt if I would be able to install all roms, like ICS Sense 4 roms
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IMO, there is not much need for you to flash radio.. most of the time you won't need to do so..
and HBoot version can be changed if you are S-Off..
but i have to disagree with your statement that if you don't S-Off you are not able to flash all custom roms.. yes, some may fail to boot up, but mostly they will boot up without problem..
I am currently at the same Hboot as you, HTCDev unlocked and i have tried many roms without problem..
the only thing about having S-On for me is that i will always be dependant on my computer to flash ROM.. other than that, there's no problem generally.. Oh, maybe there is one thing, HTC may know that your phone has already been unlocked since you are using their unlocker.. but there are some ways to relock it and restore the "RELOCKED" in bootloader to "LOCKED"..
I am a newbie, and that's why i unlocked it with HTCDev, but if i were to do it all over again, i would have spend few more days to learn how to downgrade the Hboot and S-Off instead.. you can always flash newer Hboot later anyway..
So my advice, don't worry so much about the radio, or the Hboot version (you can tweak that later) at the moment, then downgrade the Hboot and S-Off it..
IMO it's much better than using HTC unlocker..
thank you guys for all your help and advice, finally after spending a couple of days,I successfully downgraded hboot 2.00.0002 to .98 one.
once again, thankyou all
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I assume that you're revolutionary S-OFF by now, you can now easily upgrade on the latest re-engineered hboot
@doghous exactly !, I'm thinking of changing my hboot to the new re_engineered 2.00.0002 by vampire36, or if someone could suggest a better one.......
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13th Dev said:
@doghous exactly !, I'm thinking of changing my hboot to the new re_engineered 2.00.0002 by vampire36, or if someone could suggest a better one.......
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I have successfully S-Off my DS from HTC Unlock using the method by Skanob, it's pretty straight forward and noob-proof.. (not that you need that now ) and can be used to revert back to stock, S-On, Locked (not Re-locked) if you ever need to repair..
As for Hboot, i have upgraded the Hboot to Eng Hboot 7.00.1002 (the one you mentioned above) so that would be my recommendation, too!
doghous said:
I assume that you're revolutionary S-OFF by now, you can now easily upgrade on the latest re-engineered hboot
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Does anyone know what the differences between the different versions of ENG Hboot?
ENG v0.98.2000 vs. ENG v2.00.xxxx vs. ENG v7.xx.xxxx
Any benefits of using v2.00 or v7.xx over the v0.98?
Thx.
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ENG v7.xx.xxxx
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This one isn't an eng hboot. Better use 2.00.2002
anchemis said:
Does anyone know what the differences between the different versions of ENG Hboot?
ENG v0.98.2000 vs. ENG v2.00.xxxx vs. ENG v7.xx.xxxx
Any benefits of using v2.00 or v7.xx over the v0.98?
Thx.
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A good question actually, even I have the same doubt and would really appreciate if someone could post the answer !
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This is what I've gathered from forum trawling...
v0.98.xxxx: the original hboot for 1.x roms
Has the partitions: /system, /cache, /data (all ext3 or ext4)
Fastboot support, supports Revolutionary S-OFF
ENG v0.98.xxxx: engineering version of above
v2.00.2002: the new hboot for 2.x roms (Sense 3.0 etc.)
Has the partitions: /system, /system/lib, /cache, /data (all ext4)
NOT supported by Revolutionary
-> apparently, some Sense 3.0+ roms need this new /system/lib partition to work (stability issues), but I'm not sure which ones though...
->Note Revolutionary is NOT supported, so to S-OFF you need to downgrade using TacoRoot, ZergRush/Misc_versions, XTC clip or some other method.
ENG v2.00.xxxx: engineering version of above
RVL v6.98.1000: hboot that comes after you S-OFF with revolutionary
It is of a higher version number so breaks overflashing functionality, so you CANNOT revert to RUU (for warranty returns etc.)
-> Note: This can be overflashed with v6.98.2000 (OverARX), which then allows you to overflash a stock or engineered hboot.
v7.00.1002[\B]: modified 2.00.2000
NOT ENG BOOTLOADER
But are there any real life benefits of one over the other?
for example I have the Rev v6.98.1000 hboot, so what you mean is that I could have problems while flashing roms (occasionally), and hence I should change my hboot to the engineered one ?
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I got really frustrated with being S-ON and found the HBOOT downgrade instructions dubious so I found someone in my area with an XTC CLIP device and S-Offed the bastard , don't care much about warranty at this point however.
@ste_vald well done there !, having an s-offed device is surely much better
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for example I have the Rev v6.98.1000 hboot, so what you mean is that I could have problems while flashing roms (occasionally), and hence I should change my hboot to the engineered one ?
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No, you should be fine installing most of the ROM's (unless specified otherwise in the OP of the ROM).
However, ENG Hboot is recommended so that if required later you can easily flash new radio's / Hboot.
Thank you, but can't I flash radios on this rev hboot
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No, i believe you can't! You will require an ENG Hboot...
So i have an older SENSATION, and i have it working fine with CM10.2 and everything, but my microphone wont work, so I bought a new one, and i tried to do the same steps but it is not working.
I have been able to unlock bootloader. COMFIRMED, i locked it and unlocked it just to make sure.
It has on bootloader showing.
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.18.0000
eMMC-boot
Aug 2, 2011,22:35:52
I would like to S-OFF, and get it running like my other phone, if anyone can help me, I would be willing to donate the other phone, shipping paid, to the person of your choice ( Do note the phone has a problem with mic, where the volume is low, its probably dirty, but im too scared to try to take it apart, and would rather it be put to good use.)
EDIT: Got it past the white HTC screen for now, dont know why this time it is so difficult...
it boots HTC in green letters, then the HTC QUIETLY BRILLIANT, and lastly TMOBILE stick togeter, and then it reboots. I flashed it with 4EXT Recovery Touch in SMART MODE, but idk if it matters if im S-OFF or S-ON or what I am suppose to boot..
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So i have an older SENSATION, and i have it working fine with CM10.2 and everything, but my microphone wont work, so I bought a new one, and i tried to do the same steps but it is not working.
I have been able to unlock bootloader. COMFIRMED, i locked it and unlocked it just to make sure.
It has on bootloader showing.
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.18.0000
eMMC-boot
Aug 2, 2011,22:35:52
I would like to S-OFF, and get it running like my other phone, if anyone can help me, I would be willing to donate the other phone, shipping paid, to the person of your choice ( Do note the phone has a problem with mic, where the volume is low, its probably dirty, but im too scared to try to take it apart, and would rather it be put to good use.)
EDIT: Got it past the white HTC screen for now, dont know why this time it is so difficult...
it boots HTC in green letters, then the HTC QUIETLY BRILLIANT, and lastly TMOBILE stick togeter, and then it reboots. I flashed it with 4EXT Recovery Touch in SMART MODE, but idk if it matters if im S-OFF or S-ON or what I am suppose to boot..
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If you are trying with an ics or jb rom it won't boot because you are still on gb firmware
Use revolutionary.io method to s-off
After s-off flash universal firmware 3.33
But before flashing check md5 sums it is important
Then you can flash and boot any ics or jb rom
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rzr86 said:
If you are trying with an ics or jb rom it won't boot because you are still on gb firmware
Use revolutionary.io method to s-off
After s-off flash universal firmware 3.33
But before flashing check md5 sums it is important
Then you can flash and boot any ics or jb rom
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IDK what firmware I was on, idk if i did good or bad, but after trying and trying, I did a RUU installation (before it didnt let me because I was Bootloader unlocked, so I locked it and voila! it installed. now I am on the 1.50.531.1 Software... im going to try to REVOL it to S-OFF and will edit back with results. so far, so good.
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IDK what firmware I was on, idk if i did good or bad, but after trying and trying, I did a RUU installation (before it didnt let me because I was Bootloader unlocked, so I locked it and voila! it installed. now I am on the 1.50.531.1 Software... im going to try to REVOL it to S-OFF and will edit back with results. so far, so good.
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Depending from your hboot version you were still on gb firmware
And still you are after ruu installation
So go ahead for s-off by revolutionary.io method
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rzr86 said:
Depending from your hboot version you were still on gb firmware
And still you are after ruu installation
So go ahead for s-off by revolutionary.io method
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HBOOT was still 1.18.0000, ok im S-OFF, now i update the firmware?
Now it says HBOOT 1.17.1111 instead of 1.18.0000
rodr4813 said:
HBOOT was still 1.18.0000, ok im S-OFF, now i update the firmware?
Now it says HBOOT 1.17.1111 instead of 1.18.0000
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that is a patched hboot which is unlocked and free to every fastboot command
now flash 3.33 universal from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
follow the instructions to the letter
and before flashing check md5 sums(important)
after firmware upgrade you have to flash from recovery an ics or jb rom
because your current rom won't boot with ics firmware