Apologize for my inexperience with root...
I rooted/unlocked/flashed a custom ROM (CleanROM). If, at some point, I want to go back to stock (for example, if HTC/AT&T jump to 4.1 and release an official update), can I flash back to stock ROM (I made a back-up in CWM) and just update the phone as I used to be able to?
Or do I need to wait for smart XDA folks to create a new ROM, and flash that?
Thanks!
Yeah you can. But as soon as it's available a dev will make a better than stock release anyhow.
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I have two questions...
1. I had rooted my A2 when it was 2.3.5 and deleted a few apps. When the OTA update to 2.3.6 rolled around, I couldn't update because ATT is a grouch. Anyway, to solve that problem, I had to flash stock 2.3.5 back onto the phone removing root access and everything. I then proceeded to update to 2.3.6 which is fine. that's running stock as I type this. My question is, if I root it again on 2.3.6 (I know it's there...) and I freeze apps, when another OTA update rolls around, will I be able to update again? I don't want to have to flash it back to 2.3.6...(can I even do that yet?) so any help here would be appreciated.
2. I was out and about, and was looking at one of my friend's phones. She has this HTC HD2 running Android 2.3.3 AOSP. She uses ADWLauncher, etc etc. This is a Windows Phone, originally. That got me thinking...is there a AOSP version of Gingerbread for my A2? Without Blur? I'm kinda scared to do anything to it, because I want to be able to get ICS come July. Any tips here would help.
Sorry for not using the searchbar, I was just having trouble finding this info. Thanks guys!
1. Yes. Freezing apps / removing bloat as root will almost definitely keep you from the any OTA. Its the nature of the beast. You can always return to stock and apply the updates later. Also, any major update like ICS will produce a lot of posts here about how to update from an altered rom.
2. There is development work on getting CM7 to work on our phone. Currently the only released ROM that I am aware of is lfaber06's ROM
SeekerLoki said:
1. Yes. Freezing apps / removing bloat as root will almost definitely keep you from the any OTA. Its the nature of the beast. You can always return to stock and apply the updates later. Also, any major update like ICS will produce a lot of posts here about how to update from an altered rom.
2. There is development work on getting CM7 to work on our phone. Currently the only released ROM that I am aware of is lfaber06's ROM
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When a major update such as ICS is released, there will be alternate ways to install such as through bootstrap. Hopefully we'll find a leaked version of ICS before that, and pull the radio get CM9 working
Okay. So I'm planning on rooting it...now...but when I flashed 2.3.5 from the fxz someone provided, it said that once you updated to 2.3.6 you could never go back...but...
I'll try it.
What's bootstrap? I've heard about it and no one has been able to dumb it down for me...could anyone do that?
You can flash the FXZ after the update. It just requires a bit of modification and care. You might want to read the noob thread. It has lots of useful info.
Bootstrap is a way to backup, restore, and flash zips before android boots.
I just rooted the 2.3.6 it's running wonderfully.
Should I install the ibfaber deoxed rom? I mean I know I can do it per instructions but is it worth it?
It depends on what you want to do. If you want to apply any themes you will need to be running the deoxed rom. He also has a supercharged rom that has a lot more customization.
Hi, I'm new to flashing ROM's and wanted to give this a try, but I had a few questions (I searched and read the wiki, but I didn't see these specific questions):
I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket on ATT. I'm rooted on Stock GB 2.3.6
1. I wanted to try flashing this ROM([ROM][CyanogenMod 9 (unofficial)][TeamChopsticks][Alpha 1 - 4/26]), Can I come from gingerbread if I follow the instructions in post 1? Or do I need to have an ICS leak installed first?
2. I assume I can revert back to my rooted-stock ROM by using CWM with my current restore point?
3. If I restore the backup from step-2, does it restore the original radio (the UCLA3 radio)? Or am I stuck with the new one? Any disadvantes to just leaving the new one installed?
4. When flashing the new radio, is it just like flashing a ROM in CWM?
5. How would I get all my apps back on the custom ROM? (I know the contacts are linked to the google cloud) I have titanium backup pro installed now, but I read something about not restoring the apps across different ROMs?
6. If I decide to go back to my stock ROM after looking at a few custom ROMs, would I be able to get the ATT OTA updates? (I know I'd need to un-root and un-freeze all the bloatware, but I assume installing the custom ROM's would trigger the flash counter?)
7. I keep hearing about the "yellow triangle" when the flash counter is triggered. Does it only happen at boot and go away after that? Or is it always there?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi, I'm new to flashing ROM's and wanted to give this a try, but I had a few questions (I searched and read the wiki, but I didn't see these specific questions):
I have the Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket on ATT. I'm rooted on Stock GB 2.3.6
1. I wanted to try flashing this ROM([ROM][CyanogenMod 9 (unofficial)][TeamChopsticks][Alpha 1 - 4/26]), Can I come from gingerbread if I follow the instructions in post 1? Or do I need to have an ICS leak installed first?
2. I assume I can revert back to my rooted-stock ROM by using CWM with my current restore point?
3. If I restore the backup from step-2, does it restore the original radio (the UCLA3 radio)? Or am I stuck with the new one? Any disadvantes to just leaving the new one installed?
4. When flashing the new radio, is it just like flashing a ROM in CWM?
5. How would I get all my apps back on the custom ROM? (I know the contacts are linked to the google cloud) I have titanium backup pro installed now, but I read something about not restoring the apps across different ROMs?
6. If I decide to go back to my stock ROM after looking at a few custom ROMs, would I be able to get the ATT OTA updates? (I know I'd need to un-root and un-freeze all the bloatware, but I assume installing the custom ROM's would trigger the flash counter?)
7. I keep hearing about the "yellow triangle" when the flash counter is triggered. Does it only happen at boot and go away after that? Or is it always there?
Thanks in advance!
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1) if you're a newb I wouldn't recommend flashing alpha versions of anything
2)You can revert back
3)No, flash a ginger radio before restoring
4)Yes, wipe cache/dalvik cache
5)You can restore apps accross the same OS, but I never do
6)Yes, if you're on official software. It wont trigger unless you flash with odin or sometimes a custom kernel like cm will trigger it. No big deal, we have a counter reset.
7)only at boot, we have counter reset, so no worries
Wow, that was a quick reply! Thanks.
Sorry if I'm dense, I just wanted to clarify two things before proceeding.
Re 1: I also saw another ROM I wanted to try, I guess I'll do that one ([ROM]SKY ICS--- 4.2D-9). Thanks for the heads up.
Re 3: From your response, am I correct to understand I can't use an ICS radio with GB? (it just wont work? or there's no advantage to keeping it?)
Re 5: Same OS meaning inside GB based ROMs or ICS based ROMs? If I go from stock GB to custom ICS, I need to re-download each app individually?
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Wow, that was a quick reply! Thanks.
Sorry if I'm dense, I just wanted to clarify two things before proceeding.
Re 1: I also saw another ROM I wanted to try, I guess I'll do that one ([ROM]SKY ICS--- 4.2D-9). Thanks for the heads up.
Re 3: From your response, am I correct to understand I can't use an ICS radio with GB? (it just wont work? or there's no advantage to keeping it?)
Re 5: Same OS meaning inside GB based ROMs or ICS based ROMs? If I go from stock GB to custom ICS, I need to re-download each app individually?
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1) very good choice, I run it and it is outstanding.
3)they will have a RIL mismatch. You can use them by deleting the system folder out of it, but I would just use the la3 radio and flash that before the rom. After a full wipe, of course.
5)Right, it ensures everything will be clean and run right.
Hi,
I just sent my One S to Vodafone because of the chipping issue (it wasn't very much but if they change it it would be nice) and I expect to get a new flashed phone back from them.
At the moment I have (or more had) the Virtuos 1.4.0 Rom installed because I kinda like the Sense look&feel more than the AOSP way but I wanted to have the 3-dot menu mod.
As the Mod is now available for odexed 1.78 ROMs and the Virtuos ROM isn't updated I'm thinking about keeping the stock ROM, clean it in parts with the ROM Cleaner and then apply the Mod (and maybe some other also) to still get OTA Updates.
My Question now is: What does the phone need to get the OTA Updates?
Somewhere I read that it would need the default recovery, is this true? and what else does it need? I want to have CWM to make nandroids etc. - would it be necessary to unlock the bootloader, flash CWM and reflash the default recovery if there are OTAs?
Also I'm thinking about changing the phone from a branded Vodafone one to the default HTC Eu version like this. Does this make it possible to receive OTA from HTC after flashing an RUU and what do I have to consider?
With an official ruu (eg. EU) you should always get updates. Although devs update moreoften.
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA
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With an official ruu (eg. EU) you should always get updates. Although devs update moreoften.
Sent from my HTC One S using XDA
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Thank you for the answer!
But what can you modify and still get OTA Updates? I'm thinking as said about if the CWM as Recovery etc. affects the "OTA-Ability"
You need stock recovery, Stock ROM, All the stock bloatware. you may even need re locked bootloader.
its easier to run an RUU or wait for ROM devs to include the update into the ROM
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You need stock recovery, Stock ROM, All the stock bloatware. you may even need re locked bootloader.
its easier to run an RUU or wait for ROM devs to include the update into the ROM
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Okay, so no chance to modify it a little bit without affecting the OTA ability
I have a nandroid of the default ROM so then I think I should be able to make an OTA by restoring the nandroid, flashing the signed stock recovery and then give it a try?! - As said the Phone is brandet so flashing a RUU would be a little bit more riskier
Mh... I'll just try it when the net OTA is there
My Problem now just is that the Virtuos ROM isn't up to date and every other ROM doesn't fit my needs
The MoDaCo is very "*****y" (doesn't want to boot sometimes) and misses the "Facebook for HTC Sense" and "Twitter for HTC Sense" apps...
Oh and if somebody is interested:
I got my phone changed without any discussion from Vodafone. They just sent me a new one and the delivery boy took my old back to Vodafone.
you could certainly try the Nandroid way ! lots have people have successfully done it this way
Hey, i am new to rooting, actually the whole android intact. I decided to get a HTC ONE X after having the iPhone for a while. I have watched some videos on rooting and i think i have all that down with boot loader and stuff. I just have a few questions about other stuff regarding rooting the phone with customer ROM's.....
1) if i have a custom rom, and i get an OTA update, will that brick my phone if i do decide to update it? I know that it will take root off... but will it brick it if i just update without doing anything with custom rom?
2)Do custom roms (the one I'm looking at is the cyanogen mod for HTC ONE X) kill the battery more then normal?
3) How do you go back to stock rom if you no longer want the rom.... is it as easy as just going to the reboot screen and selecting stock rom? is the stock rom already on there or do i have to put it on there?
4) If wanted, how easy is it to un-root phone?
5) and just personal opinion, what is the best jellybean Custom rom out right now for HTC one X?
Thank you all so much!!
1 - You can't OTA update with a custom rom. Anyway, the custom roms (Sense based) are further updates than the AT&T updates.
2 - When I used CM10, it had quite a bit of wakelock but it's dependent on each phone as well. Many have great battery life.
3 - RUU
4 - When you RUU, you relock your bootloader and it brings it back to stock. Only difference is now in the bootloader, it says re-locked, not locked.
5 - CM10 is pretty good so far, but I'm a fan of AOKP.
1. The OTAs are pulled by software on the phone. Custom ROMs don't have this software and don't pull, so no need to worry.
2. Depends. Keep in mind the current JB ROMs are still a work in progress. CM10 does still have wakelocks, but its getting better.
3. Already said above. Just relock your bootloader and RUU.
4. Easy to unroot. Easy to relock. But once you unlock your bootloader your phone will never say LOCKED again. I honestly have never had an issue with it with warranty repair, but please don't be an asshat and flash a ROM for the wrong One X and then complain to AT&T.
5. Personal preference. The great things about custom ROMs is you can try a bunch out and find the one that you like. I used AOKP a while back and liked it. CM10 is pretty cool but I just had it for a few days as they work out the wakelock issues. Also check out some of the ICS ROMs. CleanROM is pretty solid as well and gives great performance. Don't necessarily limit yourself. That's the beauty of it.
On going back to stock rom, you dont necessarily need to use the ruu. After you get your phone rooted, unlocked, and a recovery for flashing your custom roms, then just make sure before you flash your first rom that you (from recovery) select factory reset (will erase all user data such as 3rd party apps and such) then perform a backup, also in recovery. Now,you have a safe stock rooted rom backup. Go flash any of the roms in this forum and at anytime you can always just go restore your stock rom back
I think i'm getting overwhelmed with all the reading I'm doing and need a little help clear out the confusion in my brain
I'm rooted
I have SUPER CID
I have S-OFF
Custom Recovery (TWRP)
On a custom ROM (chameleon OS)
Never updated to JB OTA
Does my phone need to update to JB before I begin to flash any other Custom ROM? I know these roms provide Android 4.1/4.2+ but does my phone need the OFFICIAL JB update for it to work good? I see a lot of people installing the stock RUU and getting the update - I guess my main question is - is it necessary to downgrade back to stock, update, re-root,unlock, install new ROM again with my phone now having JB thru OTA?
If so - what are the PROS of doing this?
If not - is my phone going to be okay installing ROMs with my phone never being updated.
Thanks!
Short answer: no.
Long answer: no, because you're wiping cache and data the phone is a blank slate. You could go back to Cupcake or skip forward to Jelly Bean 4.3... If you managed to break into Google Inc and get the data for that.
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Normaly no.
But I've seen situations with previous devices that a certain min hboot/firmware is required.
Like if your firmware is gb any jb/ics Rom might not work. just an example!!
Just look what base the Rom is made from. Test if it works. If not update you're firmware to min required or same as base of rom. Test it again.
Always check op of rom. Or ask the dev.
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since you're s off, any ROM will work.
Real187, on some other HTC devices (eg.Flyer), you had to match your hboot to the ROM, but so far for the One S, this hasn't mattered (for the average user).
The only "firmware" partitions you might consider messing with is the radio, but that won't affect if the ROM boots.
to answer your question, the pros of ota are none to negligible. No ones sure if the other partitions it updates are beneficial.
Thx for the replies! I was worried about this as I see a lot of people trying to downgrade and bricking their phones while doing the process.