Hi there!
It seems in the beginning only the 32 GB version of Infinity will hit the stores in Spain, to my dismay 'cause I was eagerly waiting for the 64 GB model.
So, considering I won't be able to wait no more, I could get what's the available in the market along with a 32 GB micro SD card (for example SanDisk Mobile Ultra 32GB). I wonder if there would be performance difference between 64 GB model and 32 GB with 32 GB micro SD card in terms of storage benchmarks or software performance?
The mobile ultra cards should be around 30+MB/sec which should be about what the internal runs at. Get a 64gb card(about $70) and have 96gb storage total! You could use a 128gb card also or any xdhc micro sd, you just need to reformat the xdhc cards to fat32 and they work perfectly! Xdhc cards are faster than sdhc allows, so using an xdhc should test as fast as the internal controller will allow. Sdxc 64gb and up cards should test at over 40MB/sec in a sdhc slot. Sdxc cards should be able to do 100MB/sec which is way faster than the bus/controller in your device, so they will be faster than the built-in storage!
JUST REMEMBER TO REFORMAT SDXC CARDS AS FAT32! And only use SDXC UHS-1 type cards! UHS-2 cards will not work!
If you format a sdxc uhs-1 card as fat32 and it doesn't work, you need to write a new mbr on the card. Xdhc uses exFat file system and that uses ntfs mbr, you need fat32 mbr. Either repartition the card, or use a 3rd party format tool like fat32format which would take care of both issues at once. Shouldn't be an issue on the majority of newer devices.
A lot of devices won't care that the mbr is in the wrong location(exFat and ntfs use a different mbr location compared to fat32) as long as it is formatted fat32.
Good luck, and I hope you stuff a 128gb in there so you have 160GB total! SWEETNESS!
PM me if you need any help!
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I would recommend to buy a SanDisk microsd xc 64gb, and and format it to NTFS. I'm using this card in my transformer prime and it's great because in NTFS file system I'm allowed to copy files larger than 4gb (movies). If you format it to fat32 4gb will be the limit. The SanDisk card is almost as fast as internal storage. You won't notice any difference.
josuetenista said:
I would recommend to buy a SanDisk microsd xc 64gb, and and format it to NTFS. I'm using this card in my transformer prime and it's great because in NTFS file system I'm allowed to copy files larger than 4gb (movies). If you format it to fat32 4gb will be the limit. The SanDisk card is almost as fast as internal storage. You won't notice any difference.
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I assume Infinity will support sdxc format since Prime does.
None of these support "xdhc" yet, but it will work. Do not use ntfs. Linux support is still not 100% for ntfs(drivers are better than the past, but still not recommended). You can use ntfs if you need files bigger than 4gb. Fat32 is the best choice for reliability.
Again, xdhc uhs-1 will work in sdhc slot(with reformat to fat32), xdhc uhs-2 needs true xdhc slot(new pinout from what I have seen).
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josuetenista said:
I would recommend to buy a SanDisk microsd xc 64gb, and and format it to NTFS.
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I would NEVER format ANYTHING to NTFS. There is simply no reason to.
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I would NEVER format ANYTHING to NTFS. There is simply no reason to.
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Really? I have hundreds of movies on my home server over 4 GB. I'm not going to spend hours to convert those to work on the FAT32 system.
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Really? I have hundreds of movies on my home server over 4 GB. I'm not going to spend hours to convert those to work on the FAT32 system.
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Guys,
I am reading through a few of the threads, and some detailing specifically with the SD cards, and the information is sporadic and spread out.
Can we get a thread that is updated with a list of cards known for working?
Name of card, size, etc.?
I am searching for a card to get with my TF700 when I order it from Amazon, but I can't seem to nail down which cards actually work after the firmware update. I am positive I am not the only one.
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WORKING
SanDisk 32 GB class 4
WinTeck 32 GB class 10
Sandisk MicroSDHC Ultra 64gb class 6 works after firmware update. Both in docking and tablet.
SanDisk 32GB class 4 HC (graphite color)
Sandisk Extreme 32GB SDHC class 10 in the slot formatted exFAT.
ADATA 32GB class 10 microSDHC
The following cards work with .22 firmware
1 GB no name, made in china
2 GB san disk
4 GB san disk class 2
NOT WORKING
SanDisk Ultra 16GB class 10 HC (red/gray)
This is the card i have, a 64gb.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o03_s00_i00
My issue is, even after the update, when copying or moving items to it, my device freezes. I have this card in the tablet. Prior to the update, i had it in the dock. Reason being, movies wouldnt play from it when it was in the tablet. Since the update, the movies now play great. But copying/moving is now an issue. I havent see anyone else report this yet. Btw, the card is formatted at NTFS.
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Guys,
I am reading through a few of the threads, and some detailing specifically with the SD cards, and the information is sporadic and spread out.
Can we get a thread that is updated with a list of cards known for working?
Name of card, size, etc.?
I am searching for a card to get with my TF700 when I order it from Amazon, but I can't seem to nail down which cards actually work after the firmware update. I am positive I am not the only one.
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I ordered this one. http://www.amazon.com/ADATA-Micro-C...qid=1343572803&sr=8-1&keywords=adata+micro+sd
I'll let you know when it arrives.
Cool.
If we get enough responses, I will start listing them on the first post.
Let me know how that one works.
Ok, so I started keeping a list in the first post (we only have one so far).
So if anyone has ones they tried and worked, or ones that did not, lets post them and I will get them on the top page tonight.
Hopefully this will help everyone with their purchase, and even give Asus (Gary) something to go from.
Any 64gb card guys out there?
I am currently using a SanDisk 32 GB class 4 but also have a WinTeck 32 GB class 10. They both work great, play stored music and 1080p videos without stuttering. :good:
Sandisk MicroSDHC Ultra 64gb class 6 works after firmware update. Both in docking and tablet.
You may want to include lists for both working and NOT working cards. I have one of each:
Working: SanDisk 32GB class 4 HC (graphite color)
Not working: SanDisk Ultra 16GB class 10 HC (red/gray)
The dock uses USB (2.0) host to manage SD cards, so shouldn't give many problems. I'm currently using Sandisk Extreme 32GB SDHC class 10 in the slot formatted exFAT.
I have used Sandisk 16GB class 4 microSDHC before and now I'm using ADATA 32GB class 10 microSDHC with pretty good speeds in the microSD slot (all formatted exFAT, 32KB block size).
Did not have much luck with NTFS on .21 and .22 builds, perhaps this changed with .26, but I'm happy with exFAT.
Might be useful to mention which firmware people are on too when it works and doesn't work.
Using microsd San Disk 64gb class 6 working fine with latest firmware update. Have formated to ntfs, exfat and fat32 all file systems work on but getting better speeds with exfat
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Can anyone link me to the fastest working 32 gig micro SD that's under 30$
This is the card i have, a 64gb.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005V7WIA2/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00
My issue is, even after the update, when copying or moving items to it, my device freezes. I have this card in the tablet. Prior to the update, i had it in the dock. Reason being, movies wouldnt play from it when it was in the tablet. Since the update, the movies now play great. But copying/moving is now an issue. I havent see anyone else report this yet. Btw, the card is formatted at NTFS.
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josuetenista said:
Using microsd San Disk 64gb class 6 working fine with latest firmware update. Have formated to ntfs, exfat and fat32 all file systems work on but getting better speeds with exfat
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can you post a link to the card you have. thanks.
I'm thinking of buying this:
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/...UHS-I-Card-Class-10-with-Adapter/Product.html
The following cards work with .22 firmware
1 GB no name, made in china
2 GB san disk
4 GB san disk class 2
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Now the thread seems pretty SanDisk-oriented and it's just the most popular brand, not necessarily the best (either for the Infinity or in general).
we need others to post what they are using, especially if it is a different brand.
You can crop the lines which mention a few cards, my ADATA is hidden behind Sandisk at the moment
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You can crop the lines which mention a few cards, my ADATA is hidden behind Sandisk at the moment
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Ok, trying to clean it up now.
Sorry, this is my real first attempt at really trying to help contribute
Well done, keep the good work going
I just installed a usb storage device to the keyboard but I cant seem to find it. Anybody know where should I look.
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Does anyone have exfat working on the Verizon galaxy S3? I tried formating with the phone but no go. When doing exfat format on windows 7 the phone won't recognize the sd card. Thank you for your help.
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Are you using the stock ROM with stock kernel? Any custom kernel will not support Exfat.
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I'm currently using the latest stock jelly bean leak for Verizon with stock kernel. Had same issue with stock ice cream as well. Thanks for any input
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What's not working? exFat should work fine on the stock Verizon factory rom, but it should not and will not work on a custom recovery. To add onto the above funnyperson1's comment, custom kernels and custom recoveries will not recognize sd cards formatted to exFat, it must be Fat32.
Windows can't format drives >32GB that's why it failed. You need a third party solution to format memory >32GB to Fat32. Steps on how to do so are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773735
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What's not working? exFat should work fine on the stock Verizon factory rom, but it should not and will not work on a custom recovery. To add onto the above funnyperson1's comment, custom kernels and custom recoveries will not recognize sd cards formatted to exFat, it must be Fat32.
Windows can't format drives >32GB that's why it failed. You need a third party solution to format memory >32GB to Fat32. Steps on how to do so are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773735
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Some custom kernels will recognize ExtFat if enabled. Ziggy's works in Synergy but he said it wasn't easy to do.
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Some custom kernels will recognize ExtFat if enabled. Ziggy's works in Synergy but he said it wasn't easy to do.
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I stand corrected, thanks as always for the info man
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VRBLK3 Stock with stock kernel reformatted my snadisk ultra 64GB u1 class 10 SDXC card with no problems. I wanted a clean format for a fresh romantic and it worked without error.
Couple warnings on SDXC and non-stock ROMs and recoveries.
1. Don't use Root Explorer to move files around or create folders on this type of card, not even when formatted FAT32. It doesn't even read the card size correctly.
2. Its been reported several times that TiBu will sporadically not recognize exFAT formatted SDXC cards.
3. Any io speed hacks for external sdcards will cause apps to throw insufficient space errors if you're using SDXC.
4. (And probably the most vexing) The problem with exFAT is that most custom recoveries don't support it (stock recovery reportedly supports it but when uses stock recovery). So that's a burn. On the flip side, SDXC as a standard was built with exFAT as the supported fs. So FAT32 (anything that uses vfat) actually conflicts with SDXC standards. Its not a huge issue, but it can cause small linking errors that will cause windows to want to run chkdisk when it's mounted. Don't run chkdisk if you want to keep your data. Wading through hundreds of ".CHK" files trying to recover lost data for 5 hours is not fun.
I hope twrp will start supporting exFAT on the S3 (I think they have it working on the Note2), also need more kernels to start incorporating exFAT support. Otherwise 64GB SDXC will be a wash for custom ROMs and recoveries.
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i have not troubles moving files around or creating folders on my sandisk ultra 64-1 with root explorer.
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4. (And probably the most vexing) The problem with exFAT is that most custom recoveries don't support it (stock recovery reportedly supports it but when uses stock recovery). So that's a burn. On the flip side, SDXC as a standard was built with exFAT as the supported fs. So FAT32 (anything that uses vfat) actually conflicts with SDXC standards. Its not a huge issue, but it can cause small linking errors that will cause windows to want to run chkdisk when it's mounted. Don't run chkdisk if you want to keep your data. Wading through hundreds of ".CHK" files trying to recover lost data for 5 hours is not fun.
I hope twrp will start supporting exFAT on the S3 (I think they have it working on the Note2), also need more kernels to start incorporating exFAT support. Otherwise 64GB SDXC will be a wash for custom ROMs and recoveries.
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Yes, this situation is a huge mess. Why they standardized on a closed format like exFAT is beyond me. It's all about the Benjamins, I guess.
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Yes, this situation is a huge mess. Why they standardized on a closed format like exFAT is beyond me. It's all about the Benjamins, I guess.
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Actually, its all about the size and speed.
SDXC was developed to support recording HD video (1920x1080Px30fps and higher).
First up is size:
FAT32 was not built to support file sizes above 2GB, and broadcast quality HD video is about 1GB per minute. You can see the problem there. But that's professional grade HD. Lets look at what our device does, which is roughly 124MB per minute of "full HD" (this is highly compressed). That means anything over roughly 16mins would be larger than 2GB which rules out FAT32.
Second up is speed:
Lets say you have a full 64GB card. SDHC class 10 would max at (in optimal conditions) 10MB/s transfer speed, so it would take almost 2 hours to transfer your data over an SDHC interface. SDXC UHS-I is rated at 100MB/s, so thats about 10 minutes to transfer 64GB over an SDXC interface. NOTE: If you are using an USB card reader that limits you to about 40MB/s in the best scenario, so its definitely faster to use a built in reader than use your phone as a USB card reader.
exFAT does have some serious draw backs though.
1. Totally proprietary to Microsoft.
2. File recovery is crap because there's only 1 VBR in exFAT. FAT32 uses alternating file records, so file recovery is easier.
Conclusion, the SDA's (Secure Digital Association, who owns the SD format) only route to keep up with the HD technology demands, even on a consumer level, was SDXC and exFAT. They couldn't go with any of the more robust file systems because they are mostly not cross platform compatible. NTFS just doesn't go very well on Mac, HFS on Windows is just dumb, and EXT(2,3,4) would just confuse the heck out of your every day end user.
I'm thinking about giving my microSDXC card to someone with a nice digital camera, and buying a 32GB microSDHC class 10 card. FAT32 on SDHC is the standard and won't give me any problems across any platform.
Hope that helps clarify some of the confusion and frustration with 64GB microSDXC cards and exFAT.
Ta,
ALQI
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alquimista said:
Actually, its all about the size and speed.
SDXC was developed to support recording HD video (1920x1080Px30fps and higher).
First up is size:
FAT32 was not built to support file sizes above 2GB, and broadcast quality HD video is about 1GB per minute. You can see the problem there. But that's professional grade HD. Lets look at what our device does, which is roughly 124MB per minute of "full HD" (this is highly compressed). That means anything over roughly 16mins would be larger than 2GB which rules out FAT32.
Second up is speed:
Lets say you have a full 64GB card. SDHC class 10 would max at (in optimal conditions) 10MB/s transfer speed, so it would take almost 2 hours to transfer your data over an SDHC interface. SDXC UHS-I is rated at 100MB/s, so thats about 10 minutes to transfer 64GB over an SDXC interface. NOTE: If you are using an USB card reader that limits you to about 40MB/s in the best scenario, so its definitely faster to use a built in reader than use your phone as a USB card reader.
exFAT does have some serious draw backs though.
1. Totally proprietary to Microsoft.
2. File recovery is crap because there's only 1 VBR in exFAT. FAT32 uses alternating file records, so file recovery is easier.
Conclusion, the SDA's (Secure Digital Association, who owns the SD format) only route to keep up with the HD technology demands, even on a consumer level, was SDXC and exFAT. They couldn't go with any of the more robust file systems because they are mostly not cross platform compatible. NTFS just doesn't go very well on Mac, HFS on Windows is just dumb, and EXT(2,3,4) would just confuse the heck out of your every day end user.
I'm thinking about giving my microSDXC card to someone with a nice digital camera, and buying a 32GB microSDHC class 10 card. FAT32 on SDHC is the standard and won't give me any problems across any platform.
Hope that helps clarify some of the confusion and frustration with 64GB microSDXC cards and exFAT.
Ta,
ALQI
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I have the 64GB SanDisk SD card... I formatted it in exfat using windows... it shows under disk properties that the format is exfat... But I cant download large files such as 4GB and Recovery with Siyah Kernel recognizes it...? Sorry guys, but what am I doing wrong?
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Hi guys, i have the 64gb SanDisk sd card... I had formatted it EXFAT using Windows 7. My phone (galaxy s4 gt-i9300) recognizes it, but i dont know what is wrong, cause I cant download files bigger than 4GB... And also my recovery recognizes it. I rooted my phone, but if I check the properties of the sd card on Windows it shows that it is on EXFAT? Should I use a different method to format it?
Thanks in advance
I'm out of space. interested to change my 32GB Sdcard into 64GB. Have anyone try external Sdcard 64GB yet? Will it work?
cyclonmaster said:
I'm out of space. interested to change my 32GB Sdcard into 64GB. Have anyone try external Sdcard 64GB yet? Will it work?
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it works i saw a forum member mention he was using one
I thought so too. No reason that there is a limitation that limit it to use 64GB. Ok, I'm going to purchase SDcard 64Gb and test it out. Hopefully it work.
Yes it works fine, I'm using a SanDisk Class 10 64GB Micro SDXC card and have 0 problems. Not sure why phones/tablets always have "upgradable to 32GB" as their system specs when a 64GB card works fiine
I'm glad to hear that. Waiting for my salary this friday. Going to add more space to my phone. A lot of games inside
Been using Sandisk 64gb non uhs 1 for a year now,i have a 2nd uhs 1 in its package still unopened from last years amazon sale got it for $39
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340063
It works. Just reformat the 64GB microSDXC into FAT32 as well, on the computer (as a physical drive) - the kernel and the firmware doesn't support exFAT. Sure, FAT32 is a pain in the a** but is the only quick way in.
P.S. BTW, if any Android devices can actually read and write to microSDHC, they have extremely good chance of unofficially supporting SDXC - the electrical pinouts are the same, even SDIO commands are the same between those two SD cards, the only difference is file system that's already preformatted. (4 - 2,048 MB SD - FAT16 / 4 - 32 GB SDHC - FAT32 / 64 - 2,048 GB SDXC - exFAT)
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Is fat32 32kb clusters the best to use on shield? Cause from when it was xfat on my galaxy s4, it gave a speed of 30/40 write/read
But now that i have made it to fat32 with 32kb cluster, it does now 19/ 8 read/write...
How come? Is fat32 really that bad for a 64gb?
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Is fat32 32kb clusters the best to use on shield? Cause from when it was xfat on my galaxy s4, it gave a speed of 30/40 write/read
But now that i have made it to fat32 with 32kb cluster, it does now 19/ 8 read/write...
How come? Is fat32 really that bad for a 64gb?
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For now we don't have any kernel for the shield so we need to still using fat32,and there is no support yet on 4.3(stock), and i think there will not be for xfat memories, so yeah we need to still using our 64gb memory with fat 32
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For now we don't have any kernel for the shield so we need to still using fat32,and there is no support yet on 4.3(stock), and i think there will not be for xfat memories, so yeah we need to still using our 64gb memory with fat 32
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WEll, atleast i get to use the sdcard on the shield
All,
Just got my San Disk 128GB microSD card from Amazon. It works great. You'll first need to reformat the card to FAT32 (recommend Google search for GUIFORMAT). Copy/transfer any of your old files from you old card to you new one (after you've formatted) and insert into you Sensation. The Sensation recognized the entire 128GB.
I don't think we're allowed to discuss prices; however, Amazon has a VERY good deal on this card right now for those considering it.
Cheers,
Justin
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All,
Just got my San Disk 128GB microSD card from Amazon. It works great. You'll first need to reformat the card to FAT32 (recommend Google search for GUIFORMAT). Copy/transfer any of your old files from you old card to you new one (after you've formatted) and insert into you Sensation. The Sensation recognized the entire 128GB.
I don't think we're allowed to discuss prices; however, Amazon has a VERY good deal on this card right now for those considering it.
Cheers,
Justin
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the worst is that in fat32 we cant have files bigger then 4gb :crying:
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the worst is that in fat32 we cant have files bigger then 4gb :crying:
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are you sure? i have 5gb file and it works fine
In fat32 the sd just acept 4GB files. You can put a lot of 4GB files, but 4GB is the limit.
I have a 32GB Sd with NTFS and works great.
I know it have 128, but you try with NTFS!?
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In fat32 the sd just acept 4GB files. You can put a lot of 4GB files, but 4GB is the limit.
I have a 32GB Sd with NTFS and works great.
I know it have 128, but you try with NTFS!?
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can android read NTFS file system from sdcard?
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can android read NTFS file system from sdcard?
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Surely. I have a 32GB NTFS runing on my Sensation.
On bigger SDs the only problem, i believe so, is the lag.
I dont have this problem om my, just on 64GB or bigger.
Sorry for my bad english
Thank you for the information, I had no idea. Will be purchasing one when I have the cash. :good:
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All,
Just got my San Disk 128GB microSD card from Amazon. It works great. You'll first need to reformat the card to FAT32 (recommend Google search for GUIFORMAT). Copy/transfer any of your old files from you old card to you new one (after you've formatted) and insert into you Sensation. The Sensation recognized the entire 128GB.
I don't think we're allowed to discuss prices; however, Amazon has a VERY good deal on this card right now for those considering it.
Cheers,
Justin
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really work in fat32 128gb ??? fat32 is only up to 4GB
masterchip20 said:
really work in fat32 128gb ??? fat32 is only up to 4GB
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why only up to 4gb?
i have a fat32 sdcard with 16gb capacity
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why only up to 4gb?
i have a fat32 sdcard with 16gb capacity
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I've just installed SanDisk Ultra 128GB UHS-I/Class 10 Micro SDXC Memory Card Up To 48MB/s. It was on sale trough Amazon for $90. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M562LF4/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It works well on my Sensation, I've just had to format it to FAT32 in the phone first.
As far the file system used, I prefer FAT32 due to it's compatibility on both Windows and Androids.
None of my files are bigger than 4GB, therefor, this limit doesn't bother me. Only file encroaching this limit would be HD video (my movies typically don't exceed 2.5 GB size) or off-line map data files (I use Garmin's StreetPilot, however, it's easy to split maps to manageable sizes).
So the Sensation can actually read and write to the entire capacity of the 128GB card? I've read repeatedly that 32GB is the max supported for microSD cards, and some people report having a 64GB card working. This is the only place I see a mention of a 128GB card working for the Sensation.
I have a SDCX 128 GB card (Class 10) and when I make an ext4 partition for the MOD to get 8 GB of data my recovery doesn't recognize the card.