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I searched for this and only came up with two post. I'm curious as to how many people have this electronic burning smell coming from the speaker holes.? Now so you guys know, everything is stock and have had it for only 7 days. I never have the brightness set to high and I don't use Ips +.
Today I played a pinball game for like 2 minutes then downloaded 3 books and then searched for something on the browser. All in all about 10 minutes worth of doing things and then noticed this burning smell coming from my beloved Infinity. Also this was in balanced mode the whole time. So what should I do? Is this normal? Is this happening to lots of people?
Only reason I ask is because no bestbuy by me has any and when they told me they could order another that it could be a week to 3 or 4 months that they had know for sure way of knowing just when they would get it. So should I just keep it or is the smell something that shouldn't be overlooked? Thanks to anyone who stops in to leave a comment
Haven't noticed any burning smell, even when the battery was really hot (~45*C) after using the tablet in direct sunlight.
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Haven't noticed any burning smell, even when the battery was really hot (~45*C) after using the tablet in direct sunlight.
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Thanks for the reply. Guess it means I need to return mine. Hopefully others will let me know if they have the same issue.
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d14b0ll0s do me a favor and surf the web and play a game for a few minutes and then smell the holes on the back. I know it sounds stupid I just want to make sure yours is ok. I know you said you haven't noticed it but maybe you didn't smell the speaker
Hi, i didn't noticed any burning smell on my tablet, but imho you should wait more time and see if the issue is persistent. Sometimes with brand new electronics this burning smell can happen but should go away after a while.
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Hi, i didn't noticed any burning smell on my tablet, but imho you should wait more time and see if the issue is persistent. Sometimes with brand new electronics this burning smell can happen but should go away after a while.
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I agree that new electronics can sometimes have this smell but the smell just started. and happens after minimal usage. As I type right now using splashtop i can smell it. But I will take your advice and wait .. Can't wait to long as I dont want my 30 days to be up so i can bare with it for a week or so
Also, new question. Has anyone had this problem and it eventually cleared up? Thanks
If the burning smell continue to be strong (imo you shouldn't have to stick your nose near the speaker to feel it) even after a week of normal use you should really ask for a replacement.
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If the burning smell continue to be strong (imo you shouldn't have to stick your nose near the speaker to feel it) even after a week of normal use you should really ask for a replacement.
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Well the first time I noticed it was today while I was outside. I could smell it in the air. Thats what prompted me to check for the source.SO when I found where it was coming from I smelled the speaker:laugh: lol
Thanks again for the reply
I've just did a heavy session of GLBenchmark and that made my tablet become hot but still no burning smell here. Try to do some test with GL Benchmark yourself, who knows, maybe some burn in helps... or break it for good. Either way you are still covered buy the 30 days return policy, right?
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Thanks for the reply. Guess it means I need to return mine. Hopefully others will let me know if they have the same issue.
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d14b0ll0s do me a favor and surf the web and play a game for a few minutes and then smell the holes on the back. I know it sounds stupid I just want to make sure yours is ok. I know you said you haven't noticed it but maybe you didn't smell the speaker
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No smell after some heavy gaming, you should probably return yours.
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Mine smelled charred too. But then I realized I was using it as a plate for my barbeque ribs and I cannot, for the love of anything, cook properly.
JK, return that tablet and get a new one, don't want even the slightest amount of particulates/smoke causing you cancer.
I noticed the smell a bit too, but only if I stick my nose to the speaker hole and sniff (and it's not very strong). Everything seems to be fine with the tablet though, I think it's just the break-in... I'd wait a few days and see if it starts to dissipate.
I'm like one of the many people who thought they were purchasing the tf700t dock and received the TF201 dock. Minus paying an extra $60, everything seems fine until i noticed that when i insert the tablet into the dock, it doesn't "lock". I have to slide the button over..
What i'm curious to find out, are other people with the TF201 dock having a similar problem OR are there some really lucky people to have the tf700 dock and it too doesn't auto lock when you insert the tablet??
I'm curious if i should be returning the dock and or the tablet.
(Tablet seems to have that creaking noise when i press down on the sides,& GPS doesn't seem to work unless i'm 100% outside with NOTHING in my way)
Cheers
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I'm like one of the many people who thought they were purchasing the tf700t dock and received the TF201 dock. Minus paying an extra $60, everything seems fine until i noticed that when i insert the tablet into the dock, it doesn't "lock". I have to slide the button over..
What i'm curious to find out, are other people with the TF201 dock having a similar problem OR are there some really lucky people to have the tf700 dock and it too doesn't auto lock when you insert the tablet??
I'm curious if i should be returning the dock and or the tablet.
(Tablet seems to have that creaking noise when i press down on the sides,& GPS doesn't seem to work unless i'm 100% outside with NOTHING in my way)
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I have the dock labeled for the TF700 and it locks perfectly, every time without any hassle whatsoever...
I've been reading of a few TF201 docks that don't seem to autolock though... Some say you just have to press down harder, but I don't know if that will help or not...
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Mine is also labeled a tf700 dock and locks perfectly. I too have heard the same things about a 201 dock. If yours doesn't lock, no worries just make sure you slide it over.
I have the TF201 dock (at leats it reports itself as a TF201 dock in the settings), and sometimes it locks fully, and sometimes not. In the latter cases, I indeed have to push the tablet in the dock somewhat more forcefully. 9/10 times it will then snap into position and lock itself. Only in the remaining 10% or so I have to move the slider to the locked position by hand.
To me this would not be something I would return the device for, but of course you're free to have different sentiments on the issue.
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I have a TF201 dock for my TF700 tab and can vouch that for mine I just push down a little more and the lock pops into place. Since the TF201 dock was not designed for the TF700, I don't think it would appear with every dock. However, that "half-lock" some people have taken to accepting it as a "feature" in that when it's "half-locked" you can still remove the tablet. You manually lock it to ensure that the tablet won't come out. So in a sense, they don't have to unlock to undock, yet have the option to "fully lock" in the situations that they do want it locked.
Considering you seem to have a few other questions regarding your tablet, you may want to check out my thread.
Thanks for all the feedback, if I may, to those that listed as having a TF700t dock, may i ask were you picked it up? I ended up returning my keyboard dock to bestbuy as i felt that paying full price for a prime dock resold as an Infinity dock was not acceptable. I would like to pick up a tf700t dock.
Thanks again.
It was suggested that those with great Infinity TF700s who are happy with them post about how great their tablet is. I've been saying that mine (32GB Amethyst Grey with the TF700 AG Keyboard Dock) is a fantastic device and I wouldn't trade it for anything currently on the market.
My tab is flawless, hardware-wise: no loose screen, lifted edges, light bleed, dead pixels, scratches, etc. It is rooted, unlocked and has TWRP custom recovery and ZEUS v4 ICS stock-based custom rom, which makes it so fluid and deliciously fast. I'm using Browser2Ram, which seems to have improved browsing (which wasn't bad anyway). I really am not experiencing I/O issues (RL Benchmark shows 19 overall, but random writes is still slow) and antutu scores consistently over 14,000. Navigating the Netflix app sucks, but playback is a delight. The Infinity screen is so nice, it's hard to watch a video on anything else. I do have some issues with apps that are not yet optimised for the screen resolution, but that will come in time. The keyboard dock is just an integral part of my TF700. I can't do without it. I go all day with lots of screen-on time, browsing (much time on xda!) and I've never yet gone to bed without some charge remaining. Standby battery life is astonishing.
I installed Google Now and I keep forgetting that the Infinity is still on ICS. It is performing like a champ and is as good as my three other Jellybean devices. Oh, and I usually operate in powersave or balanced mode! The custom rom and various system tweaks are responsible for this improved performance. In my experience, custom roms/kernels will always trump stock. I understand why people are hesitant to unlock and lose their ASUS warranty, but I bought a 2 year Square Trade warranty with coverage for accidental damage, so I feel pretty good about my unlocked state. It's well worth it.
Well that's my happy story. My advice is: don't put up with bad hardware. Exchange it if there are any major issues or minor issues that will bug you. keep exchanging til you are satisfied. Software-wise, there are many improvements coming your way. Be a bit patient for JB and later updates, or be adventurous and root/unlock and flash the great rom we have now...there will be more to come.
Me too lol.
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initially, i started having trouble with slowness and force closes. but after a hard reset, everything seems fine now. I recently had an issue with Maps, but the problem has gone away.
I have some minor light bleeds that I can live with, maybe 1-2 game crash in about a month of ownership, tablet is still not accepting my class 10 microsd 64gb (luckily the dock is fine with it), havent tried the blue tooth and streaming yet. I overall satisfied with it and waiting to see if JB can make it even better.
Me too. I love mine. :lol: No issues what so ever.
I agree 100%
It`s built with perfection, no problem with the screen, dock etc. I have no lag or slugginess. It plays anything i throw at it. I run it just as it was out of the box. I have no problem with battery. Keep it with me all day, wifi allways active, surfing, writing, reading a lot. Heavy email user. Allways runs in "balanced" mode. Medium screen brightness. Only time i really notice any battery drain is when i stream and play my 1080p shows from my windows home server, i watch 4-5 hours at night and then i recharge, very normal for a tab. Browser sucks but thats a software issue.
When i read some of the negative comments and post over the last few days i first thought i was in the wrong forum, this cant be my TF700T they are talking about? But i really feel for thoose of you who have got problems with loose screens etc. Take that unit back to the store asap, thats not how the TF700T should be. And most of them are not.
I owned several tabs and tablet PC`s. I have very high standards and I dont stand for poor build quality, laggy software. Believe me when I say the TF700T is right now one of the absolute best Android tablets on the market. (In 2 months who know..)
I own the european (WW) version with 64mb and the only thing that explains the difference in build quality is there from different build batches in the assembly line.
For anyone that thinking about picking one up I say go for it!
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+1 Here. I am having TF700 for the past one month ( Exchanged my TF201 in BestBuy) . I don't have any problems with it. Very very negligible light bleed ( i can live with it) , No lag at all. No problems with the battery . GPS works like a dream , Wifi is considerably strong and stable ( compared with TF201 ) .
Another happy user here.
Mine is also flawless. The screen's amazing, great for reading and HD video.
This is turning out to be just like the Primes "Positive Thread." With all the negitive post a few have been posting and reposting, it's nice to have a solid thread where people can express there joy satisfaction regarding owning the Infinity. I am also in the positive happy catagory very little to non exsistant LB! Everything is solid even streaming/using my BT headset for audio is great!
JB is starting to pop up as well Can't wait for some JB love!
No bugs here that weren't my non understanding of the OS or features of the tablet.
A few threads about problem devices had me pushing on the glass and thinking my wifi and GPS were under-performing.
Haven't seen any of that after 38 days of tinkering.
Hell I even left Mr Infinity all alone for two whole days!
When I flipped open the cover and pressed the button he woke up and said "swipe me!!!"
Very exciting l tell you.
Color me happy...
i want to love mine but i dont know if i just keep getting unlucky. google play force closes on me a lot ;[ . movies are fine and beautiful make sure u partition ur sd cards right. games run fine that you actually buy. other then that this tablet is sexy as f
Im also very happy with mine its perfect, no light bleeds no loose screen nothing. its also very stable.
I exchanged my Best Buy Prime last weekend for an Infinity and I have none of the issues others are talking about. This is what the Prime should have been all along. No bleed, wifi and GPS both good. Very pleased.
It's good to see a thread like this. It gets pretty discouraging reading those negative threads of problems.
I have had my Infinity since July and am loving it!
No issues with screen, USB SD card or any of the reported problems I have seen.
This 64 Gb tablet has a dock and I have stuffed the SD slots with 32Gb's each.
It just WORKS!
The only thing that hasn't been tried is the HDMI. I have no need for it yet but the way things are going, it should be good to go.
I am so glad I didn't go with an iPad!
Mine became perfect when I read in these forums to turn on the performance mode. Ever since purchasing this tablet i had it in balanced mode and didn't even consider moving it to performance mode. Once I did that the tablet became smoother, faster and were no longer having issues with the tablet. It is like having a new tablet.
I appreciate the info i have gotten in this forum. It has kept me from making a mistake in returning this tablet. I am totally satisfied with the TF700.
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My TF700T with its two TF201 dock keyboards works great. I have had zero issues from the start. I use my tablet with the dock most of the time as a unit. So much so that I purchased an additional TF201 dock keyboard. I keep the second dock attached to my AC power charger awaiting the need to swap out the dock thats currents attached to my tablet. After a heavy day of usage my tablet has some where around 40% remaining with the dock almost drained. At that time I just exchange docks and I am good to go. Both of my dock keyboards are a TF201 Prime version but both were updated from revision 206 to 207 as soon as they had the tablet inserted into them with a wifi network connected. I had a TF101 and a TF201 but this unit is fantastic from my standpoint. I can only imagine how it will perform once Jelly Bean is loaded onto it.
Only problem I have with my infinity is the browsing, but I expect that will be fixed directly. Other than that my device is good to go.
Loving mine as well, netflix works great and the only problem I've noticed is that sometimes I fail to press the h key. Great otherwise, tablet talk works great for it as well. Got a neoprene (roocase) case for it which works great
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Only problem I have with my infinity is the browsing, but I expect that will be fixed directly. Other than that my device is good to go.
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Chrome as been wonderful for me, and it renders everything great - havent even noticed im in android tbh
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Have infinity for about a month.
No problems so far.
I think i might have a possible reasons for the non-buttery smoothness some people have been experience with the tf700. Now most of the time i have my tab connected to the dock for typing in class, emails etc... but today i left my dock at home for the first time. Throughout the day i noticed that my tab was flying! Seriously the browser, going through the file manager, opening and closing apps. Nearly as fast as my GS3. I though asus might have sent an update or something without me knowing because this was a completely different tablet.
Once i got home i had to type up a report and needed the dock. I noticed that immediately after connecting it....the tab was not as fast. Now note that i have another sd card in the dock. What i began to notice was that once the the tab was connected, the combination of readying the the sd card in the dock for use combined with the change in the keyboard slowed down the responsiveness of the tablet immensely. Everything took an extra 1/2 millisecond. Now it wasn't "slow" but definitely "slower" than when it was not connect to the dock with the SD card.
So my questions to those that aren't as satisfied with the JB update:
1.Do you have a dock and is it always connected to the tab?
2.Do you have a micro or regular SD card within the dock?
3. Is the slowness/non-buttery smoothness you experience occur when you are connected to the dock with the above two criteria?
For those that are satisfied i want you to answer the same questions.
I honestly believe it is because of the dock/extra sd card configuration that some of us are experiencing the lag that we do. If my theory is correct, then hopefully asus can get this fixed with a software update.
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an extra HALF MILLISECOND?!?! omg so slooooooowwww.
seriously though, maybe you mean an extra half second? i was using my tablet without the doc last night and i didn't think it was any faster. i'll do a little testing both ways and see if i notice any difference.
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an extra HALF MILLISECOND?!?! omg so slooooooowwww.
seriously though, maybe you mean an extra half second? i was using my tablet without the doc last night and i didn't think it was any faster. i'll do a little testing both ways and see if i notice any difference.
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haha i was exaggerating. I just meant that its marginally slower than when dock. Yea do a test let us know if you too see a difference. Even if you dont consider it to be "slow" when docked, if it hangs slightly longer then when undocked, let us know. Also report if the SD card is inserted or not. Thanks!
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My experience is It slows up abit at wake up then it goes back to normal after it reads both cards. Just gotta wait a bit. This is at balanced mode.
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Sound theory IMO - I'm a squeaky wheel and I'm always using the dock - after reading this I'll avoid it for a few days and post results.
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amenic said:
Sound theory IMO - I'm a squeaky wheel and I'm always using the dock - after reading this I'll avoid it for a few days and post results.
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Awesome looking forward to your report along with everyone elses!
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I had a play around, and I couldn't see a difference between docked or separated. Random question though...what background are you using? Do you store your background on the SD card in your dock?
I only ask because I was the same as you...disappointed in the performance after upgrading to JB. I am not sure if it is because of what I was expecting from my other devices (Nexus 7 and GN). Either way, it wasn't quite smooth enough.
It wasn't until I went hunting until I found my own answer...completely disabling my wallpaper. Just a standard static wallpaper...it wasn't a live wallpaper or anything. That is when my TF700T became as smooth as my other two devices. Love it now...but miss my wallpaper
I use Apex Launcher and disable it in there...any kind of wallpaper results in jitter at the home screen...and switching windows. Especially bringing up the notification menu. So I would ask you to check that one for me if you can...
As far as the other people in here...I am not sure that anyone else cares about the fluidity of the interface. My original thread didn't seem to get much attention...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=8821186
Let me know your results!
Same findings re. the wallpaper
Ive been using Asus Day scene live wallpaper and love it but changed to the stock asus static wallpaper and Nova is at least 2x faster
No Noticeable difference for me between using the Tab with or without the dock!
For what it's worth, my TF700 is almost always docked and this thing flies! I am using stock launcher with a static background. When I do un-dock it, I haven't noticed any performance difference. I am not using an SD card in the dock, if that means anything (but I do use a MicroSD card in the tablet itself).
I'm interested in seeing some more responses to this thread. Like I said, I have absolutely *zero* performance issues with Jelly Bean and with Browser2RAM (and the "Enable CPU Upload path" option enabled), the stock browser is insanely fast and an absolute joy to use.
I think it's also worth mentioning what launcher you use when responding - I've found that the stock launcher performs the best and is the most stable.
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I don't think its the dock. I think it's the touchpad. It's very unresponsive, particularly when scrolling and gives the impression that the tablet is sluggish.
Try this experiment - instead of using the touchpad, perform all your normal tasks by using the screen instead. After a few minutes you'll realize that its plenty fast. Or try using a good USB mouse. Scrolling in the web browser is effortless with a mouse but feels like your stuck in the mud with the touchpad.
I have a high end ASUS gaming laptop and I have the same problem - the touchpad is really really bad. This just seems to be another thing that ASUS can't quite seem to get right.
So, I've spent a couple of months with the ASUS TF700T and its keyboard dock. Time to rant about things I don't like.
1) Startup time. Cold boot takes more than a minute. This is truly sad when Windows 8 Ultrabooks and Macbooks boot in seconds. Slower processor based android phones also boot faster. Why ASUS? What are you doing in this minute?
2) Critical Bugs. By that I mean glitches that cause the tablet to hang, randomly reboot or randomly shutdown. It's not hot. It's not being used for hours. It just crashes the kernel. It should NOT do that ASUS. I don't need that. Crash the app if you have to, not the whole tablet! Similarly with hot-plugging the dock sometimes.
3) Non-critical Bugs. That refers to little things that don't really affect productivity with the tablet but are driving me (and many others) insane.
a) What is this graphics card driver / whatever else issue that causes the random black lines to flicker on the screen at random intervals? What are these lines? ASUS, you can definitely reproduce this. This is not found on any other android device that I own (Samsung and HTC phones and tablets mainly). I realise it may not be a big deal (stuff does not crash at least), but this is a £500 tablet. This should not be an issue. Really.
b) What is wrong with the keyboard driver? Why do I need an independent app (External Keyboard Helper) to enjoy my hardware keyboard dock that you charge £100? How can this guy make such a great app, with no issues with dead keys (you know what I mean - greek 'tonos' or accent), and you, ASUS, after breaking this functionality on Jelly Bean, can't find a fix? Buy his keyboard and bundle it with your tablets, that's my answer. Give up on this ridiculous "ASUS Keyboard". It's a joke needing a separate keyboard for every language, particularly one that does not work properly. Use Google's standard. Use Hacker's Keyboard from the market (free!). Use Swype. Whatever.
4) Missing features. You give us a tablet with a hardware keyboard having a USB slot. What do people use USB for? No, it's not to plug in a keyboard. It's probably not to plug in a mouse either. External storage maybe, but less so in this cloud-ridden world where everything is on Dropbox.
Charging their phones is what they will use it for. Their iPhones, Androids and whatever. Why can't we do that with the tablet screen off ASUS? Is Apple smarter and they can code the Macbook Air circuitry better? Is this not something people want? I may not need 18h of tablet time - just a charge for my phone. Why should I need to keep the tablet on for that?
5) A 3G / 4G / whatever model, priced competitively. I know I can tether. I'd like to save myself the trouble, and my phone's battery since it is so damn difficult to charge with the built in dock anyway. It's not that hard, it will let carriers offer your tablet as a bundle, it will make you money. The iPad does it, Samsung does it. The only tablets that don't do it are Amazon's - and there are 3G Kindles out there.
5 things. Can you fix them?
Note that stuff like "my generation 1 iPad browses and reads email faster" and "X phone / tablet costing half as much is on 4.2.2 already" and "why should I need to void my warranty to install custom ROMs" are left out here. I don't particularly care about these.
I think the TF700T is an amazing feat of engineering. An incredible, sharp screen, a great form factor, a good looking set with the dock keyboard. But I'm sorry, I'm a guy who regularly forks out £600 on tablets or gadgets and my next tablet will be an iPad or a Samsung or a Kindle. It's just not worth it. I have no patience anymore, because I know that I can get my work done more efficiently with a 3rd party external keyboard and any other tablet. Heck, I can even get a phone, a keyboard and a HDMI screen for the money, and even run Ubuntu more stably.
PS: I am posting this on every android forum I know, just in case find a solution for some of these problems...
This has to be the worst post i have ever seen on the tf700 thread...
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This has to be the worst post i have ever seen on the tf700 thread...
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Agreed. I did however respond to it when posted in Transformer Forums but this person never replied to anything that people have commented on it.
Tylor
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giatros said:
So, I've spent a couple of months with the ASUS TF700T and its keyboard dock. Time to rant about things I don't like.
1) Startup time. Cold boot takes more than a minute. This is truly sad when Windows 8 Ultrabooks and Macbooks boot in seconds. Slower processor based android phones also boot faster. Why ASUS? What are you doing in this minute?
2) Critical Bugs. By that I mean glitches that cause the tablet to hang, randomly reboot or randomly shutdown. It's not hot. It's not being used for hours. It just crashes the kernel. It should NOT do that ASUS. I don't need that. Crash the app if you have to, not the whole tablet! Similarly with hot-plugging the dock sometimes.
3) Non-critical Bugs. That refers to little things that don't really affect productivity with the tablet but are driving me (and many others) insane.
a) What is this graphics card driver / whatever else issue that causes the random black lines to flicker on the screen at random intervals? What are these lines? ASUS, you can definitely reproduce this. This is not found on any other android device that I own (Samsung and HTC phones and tablets mainly). I realise it may not be a big deal (stuff does not crash at least), but this is a £500 tablet. This should not be an issue. Really.
b) What is wrong with the keyboard driver? Why do I need an independent app (External Keyboard Helper) to enjoy my hardware keyboard dock that you charge £100? How can this guy make such a great app, with no issues with dead keys (you know what I mean - greek 'tonos' or accent), and you, ASUS, after breaking this functionality on Jelly Bean, can't find a fix? Buy his keyboard and bundle it with your tablets, that's my answer. Give up on this ridiculous "ASUS Keyboard". It's a joke needing a separate keyboard for every language, particularly one that does not work properly. Use Google's standard. Use Hacker's Keyboard from the market (free!). Use Swype. Whatever.
4) Missing features. You give us a tablet with a hardware keyboard having a USB slot. What do people use USB for? No, it's not to plug in a keyboard. It's probably not to plug in a mouse either. External storage maybe, but less so in this cloud-ridden world where everything is on Dropbox.
Charging their phones is what they will use it for. Their iPhones, Androids and whatever. Why can't we do that with the tablet screen off ASUS? Is Apple smarter and they can code the Macbook Air circuitry better? Is this not something people want? I may not need 18h of tablet time - just a charge for my phone. Why should I need to keep the tablet on for that?
5) A 3G / 4G / whatever model, priced competitively. I know I can tether. I'd like to save myself the trouble, and my phone's battery since it is so damn difficult to charge with the built in dock anyway. It's not that hard, it will let carriers offer your tablet as a bundle, it will make you money. The iPad does it, Samsung does it. The only tablets that don't do it are Amazon's - and there are 3G Kindles out there.
5 things. Can you fix them?
Note that stuff like "my generation 1 iPad browses and reads email faster" and "X phone / tablet costing half as much is on 4.2.2 already" and "why should I need to void my warranty to install custom ROMs" are left out here. I don't particularly care about these.
I think the TF700T is an amazing feat of engineering. An incredible, sharp screen, a great form factor, a good looking set with the dock keyboard. But I'm sorry, I'm a guy who regularly forks out £600 on tablets or gadgets and my next tablet will be an iPad or a Samsung or a Kindle. It's just not worth it. I have no patience anymore, because I know that I can get my work done more efficiently with a 3rd party external keyboard and any other tablet. Heck, I can even get a phone, a keyboard and a HDMI screen for the money, and even run Ubuntu more stably.
PS: I am posting this on every android forum I know, just in case find a solution for some of these problems...
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1)startup time : i never shutdown my tab unless thete is no battery so i use the startup very few times and my lifespan is long enough (around 80 years) to wait for 1mn for a non-critical device to start
2)critical bugs : i don't have any. My tab nearly never crash (4 times since august). Maybe you have a broken tab (use your warranty to change it) or maybe you installed bad-quality applications and apply some customization and parameters not very clever...
3)non-critical bugs : i have some but they don't drive me insane and most of them are app related, not from the tab or asus. And anyway remember that nothing perfect exists and you also are doing mistakes in your own job...
4)missing features : you complain that there is a usb port ? It's one of the best reason to buy that tab ! You say the cloub is here but people don't alluse the cloud and on it the capacity is small (few Gb while my external disk has 1 Tb). And you can't put your photo to the cloud without a computer like that tab to connect your camera and extract your photos.
5)3G/4G : a 3G model exist TF700TG. 4G does not exist but it's normal as 4G was not ready when that tab was designed and put to stores. And at that time, there was NO tab with 4G (even the ipad, the 4G version arrived few months later)
PS : You post on every forum ? I call that spam and i know that will not answer to most of all the answers you will get in all these forums. Question : why don't you post that to world-wide newspapers, maybe the UN could decide of resolution against asus to ask them to meet your expectations ?
Please buy an ipad or whatever you prefer and don't bother us anymore with your poor man complains.
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Wait did he just criticse the tablet for having a USB port. I use the USB for external storage...
Thanks for all your comments, some have been helpful.
I realise that I wasn't very clear on what I said about the USB port. I really like it. I think it should be there. I have adapters for my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 and my Galaxy Note, (MHL) which I mainly use to connect USB keyboards or thumb drives, or SD readers.
The rant is that there is no constant power to the USB. When the tablet screen locks, USB loses power: thus you can't charge a phone for 10 minutes in your backpack when walking. This is possible with a MacBook Air (that I end up carrying around for this purpose).
Startup time is important, at least to me. It is a major selling point for Mac OS X and Windows 8. People don't want to wait when their gadgets load, that's what I think. Computers do have sleep mode as well (and sadly, they wake up faster from sleep than the Transformer!!!).
I have an iPad as well, generation 1, jailbroken, loaded with 64GB of stuff. The OS must have crashed once or twice in years. Heck, I've even managed to crash a Kindle 3 once in 3 years. I can live with that. But the TF crashes at least once a week. I believe that not that many people experience this issue, so I will RMA mine and hope for the best.
I was not aware there is a 3G version. I have not seen it on sale anywhere. After a lot of googling I realised it's the TF700KL (and it's 4G LTE, which is nice).
Thanks again and sorry if this did not apply to you.
What are you doing to crash it. Even on stock 4.2 I dont remember it crashing?
giatros said:
The rant is that there is no constant power to the USB. When the tablet screen locks, USB loses power: thus you can't charge a phone for 10 minutes in your backpack when walking. This is possible with a MacBook Air (that I end up carrying around for this purpose).
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You are carrying around a MacBook Air only to charge your phone?
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Startup time is important, at least to me. It is a major selling point for Mac OS X and Windows 8. People don't want to wait when their gadgets load, that's what I think. Computers do have sleep mode as well (and sadly, they wake up faster from sleep than the Transformer!!!).
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The only time when startup time is important for me is after it crashed again. Otherwise I leave the tablet in standby mode, and it wakes up in a second whenever I need it.
I agree that all these issues exist and are annoying more or less, but you won't ever find a perfect device - all have their quirks. For me, the only real defect from your 5 points is that it really crashes from time to time.
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You are carrying around a MacBook Air only to charge your phone?
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It does work
Standalone batteries are less efficient (plus I forget to charge them)
I have found myself carrying an iPad to tether everything else to sometimes...
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The only time when startup time is important for me is after it crashed again. Otherwise I leave the tablet in standby mode, and it wakes up in a second whenever I need it.
I agree that all these issues exist and are annoying more or less, but you won't ever find a perfect device - all have their quirks. For me, the only real defect from your 5 points is that it really crashes from time to time.
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Yes, crashing is the worst. Writing something and losing it is not nice. Even if it's just a paragraph, it's a waste of time.
I have hopes for a perfect device! One that does what I need and is stable enough. I-devices work, most android phones work, Macs work, PCs work, kindles work - why should this be different?
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It does work
Standalone batteries are less efficient (plus I forget to charge them)
I have found myself carrying an iPad to tether everything else to sometimes...
Yes, crashing is the worst. Writing something and losing it is not nice. Even if it's just a paragraph, it's a waste of time.
I have hopes for a perfect device! One that does what I need and is stable enough. I-devices work, most android phones work, Macs work, PCs work, kindles work - why should this be different?
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My tablet only crashes when trying to download torrents. If I dont attempt to download torrents, then I dont have any crashes. Though the beta version of CROMIX I had a game crash once but that is expected on beta and hasnt crashed since.
Tylor
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My tab has crashed a very few times and each time it was while playing a game that was heavely using the GPU/CPU. Maybe your tab has a hardware defect but before sending it back with rma, try a factory reset wich will put back your tab to original configuration (it means you loose your data if you don't save them elsewhere).
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A factory reset is good, but it can ALSO be a system file corrupted, in which I suggest you factory reset, reflash 4.2.1, then another factory reset.
Tylor
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While I do not agree with the OP totally but at least for some parts.
What I don't understand is that people keep defending ASUS as if they are not to blame.
Replies like "This is the worst post ever" I assume you are talking about your own post there.
The black lines are a complete no go for me, if you can't make a HD screen to work put in a low resolution screen, I would have skipped it and maybe be even happy with another tablet. Credits for apple's ipad for that, it is possible guys.
The keyboards menu button is only when your in an app, why is that? Why not in a launcher, where you use menu the most?
And then all these benchmarks, twice as fast as a htc one x, give me a break. My one x really blows away my TF700, it's about performance during the day, not just some numbers.
Installing a rom takes 3 times as long as on my one x...
Maybe it is because most asus fan people have an older smartphone with lower specs but owning a one x does not make things better for the infinity. ;0
The reason for me to keep it is because I bought it in NY for $600 that's about 430 euro incl. keyboard.
If I would have bought it here in Holland it would have been 600+ euro and I wouldn't accept this product as it is.
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J_Dutch said:
While I do not agree with the OP totally but at least for some parts.
What I don't understand is that people keep defending ASUS as if they are not to blame.
Replies like "This is the worst post ever" I assume you are talking about your own post there.
The black lines are a complete no go for me, if you can't make a HD screen to work put in a low resolution screen, I would have skipped it and maybe be even happy with another tablet. Credits for apple's ipad for that, it is possible guys.
The keyboards menu button is only when your in an app, why is that? Why not in a launcher, where you use menu the most?
And then all these benchmarks, twice as fast as a htc one x, give me a break. My one x really blows away my TF700, it's about performance during the day, not just some numbers.
Installing a rom takes 3 times as long as on my one x...
Maybe it is because most asus fan people have an older smartphone with lower specs but owning a one x does not make things better for the infinity. ;0
The reason for me to keep it is because I bought it in NY for $600 that's about 430 euro incl. keyboard.
If I would have bought it here in Holland it would have been 600+ euro and I wouldn't accept this product as it is.
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The TF700 out of the box is junk which is indeed only my personal preference. Many people have the stock device and are very happy with it. I also suggest people who compare a tablet with a keyboard to another, then type papers of a phone or a regular tablet without a keyboard and see how long it takes you. It is indeed ASUS fault for their bloated ROM, but if you use CromiX or Cyanogen Mod, It will blow any stock device out of the water. The black lines are no big deal, and dont occur when watching movies. I only see that when using Tapatalk or browsing, and it is rare. If you want a device out of the box go for a different device. The TF700 has gotten better with 4.2.1 as it fixed a lot typing application lag and such, but still dont compare to a un-bloated and tweaked ROM.
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Tylorw1 said:
The TF700 out of the box is junk which is indeed only my personal preference. Many people have the stock device and are very happy with it. I also suggest people who compare a tablet with a keyboard to another, then type papers of a phone or a regular tablet without a keyboard and see how long it takes you. It is indeed ASUS fault for their bloated ROM, but if you use CromiX or Cyanogen Mod, It will blow any stock device out of the water. The black lines are no big deal, and dont occur when watching movies. I only see that when using Tapatalk or browsing, and it is rare. If you want a device out of the box go for a different device. The TF700 has gotten better with 4.2.1 as it fixed a lot typing application lag and such, but still dont compare to a un-bloated and tweaked ROM.
Tylor
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You are right about that, I have tweaked my One X. But on stock sense it's not far behind the tweaked Infinity.
And let's not forget the One X is even more expensive for me, so you get a lot of hardware for the money(at least what I paid for it)
The concept is brilliant, it's more that I'm slightly dissapointed cause if performance was wat is expected this device would have been the best ever, and I'm sure it could have been if asus at least would have done better I/O performance. But then again, will there ever be a perfect device?
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The thing is, I don't think the speed should be an issue. I don't play that many games (certainly not power-hungry ones), I don't download torrents on the TF700T.
I have been flashing custom ROMs on devices since my HTC Prophet - and custom ROMs are usually less stable than the factory ROM (they are faster and with more eye-candy). Why this is not the case here I don't know.
I like the tablet to read papers and books (mainly PDF, some ePub), this is why I wanted the high resolution screen.
Screen tearing when reading is distracting and very disappointing.
I try to write papers on the TF700T. I write some forum posts. But the problems there are
1) Can't use a reference manager - there is no cite as you write, or at least I haven't found one
2) Random crashing or flushing the app from memory causes loss of data
3) When I want to write in Greek, I HAVE to use a non-ASUS keyboard app as the ASUS keyboard does not let you put accents in since 4.2.1
The touchscreen is great for reading stuff, underlining etc. But this tablet is problematic; may be just my device (I hope). It certainly feels like a beta product.
I wanted to reinstall the OS as well, however ASUS seems to have pulled the 10.6.1.14.4 from their download site (I get file not found for http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/TF700T/TF700T_WW_epaduser_V1061144UpdateLauncher.zip )
I just wanted to say this:
There is a very noticeable issue with the Tegra 3's 4+1 processor setup that some things (recovery for example) do not handle too well and end up using that power saver core as the main core. For example, in TWRP, on my Droid RAZR the little slider to confirm something is very liquid, as is the loading bar's animation, but on the TF700T, it lags immensely.
That is the one issue I have with it. As far as Quadrant scores or benchmarks, mine have been all over the place even on CM10.1. It doesn't matter that on CROMI it can get a 10,000 if you can't switch between two apps in less than 10 seconds.
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