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Hi to all of you !
I hard reseted my device and made this simple test.
Charged the battery to 100%, left the touch cruise on my table without doing nothing for 12 hours, then checked the battery status again ->73%
This does not seems normal to me !
Anyone else has this problem??
Dag
daghood said:
Hi to all of you !
I hard reseted my device and made this simple test.
Charged the battery to 100%, left the touch cruise on my table without doing nothing for 12 hours, then checked the battery status again ->73%
This does not seems normal to me !
Anyone else has this problem??
Dag
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it depends on what rom you are using.
I also heard that by hard reseting or flashing other roms, you are erasing something on the memory and you need to cycle your battery like 4-5 times in order to work properly, yet again i might be wrong.
I am using the official WM6 french rom !
I also instaleld ACBTaskman and try to monitor battery usage but the POWER(mA) value is N/A when the USB cord is unpluged, is this normal?
Should I make the test with the USB cord pluged in ??
Dag
"without doing nothing"
That might be the problem. Perhaps if you left it without doing anything then it won't use up quite the same power.
andyturner said:
"without doing nothing"
That might be the problem. Perhaps if you left it without doing anything then it won't use up quite the same power.
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Bloody foreigners?
Are you sure not falling in bug HTC models with GPS? Excessive battery drain CONFIRMED - FAQ added?
Hello,
Are you sure your phone does not automatically connect to the Internet so as to get those weather reports?
Is the HSDPA turned on? (Settings -> Connections -> HSDPA icon) If you do not need this, then set it to Off, Windows will prompt you to reset in order for this change to come into effect.
Is Wifi turned on? This drains the battery quite quickly
Does the backlight switches off when your phone is not in use? (Settings->System->Backlight icon). If not, make sure it does!
Finally, I use PowerGuard which is free. It shows you a negative number for the amount of mA your device uses (i.e. your device draws current from battery), and when you plug in the charger it shows a positive one, indicating the battery is recharging. Mind you though, it will not measure anything, if your device is in the "off" state.
When running no program, I get a current consumption of around -35mA. So, according to another thread, I have the issue of the GPS bug... Frankly, I have never been able to have a current consumption of 1..3mA as this link suggests:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371734
If anyone else has managed to get that current, please let me know!
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Bloody foreigners?
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I bet as an english speaking person you probably speak 3 languages (english, english and english!)
Are you sure your phone does not automatically connect to the Internet so as to get those weather reports?
NO weather update is disabled !
Is Wifi turned on? This drains the battery quite quickly.
NO wifi is turned off
Does the backlight switches off when your phone is not in use? (Settings->System->Backlight icon). If not, make sure it does!
Yes it does switch off
Finally, I use PowerGuard which is free. It shows you a negative number for the amount of mA your device uses (i.e. your device draws current from battery), and when you plug in the charger it shows a positive one, indicating the battery is recharging. Mind you though, it will not measure anything, if your device is in the "off" state.
I also use powerGuard, so should I set the PDA not to turn itself off so that I get a constant reading of the battery mA ?
What is the "off" state? Is it when I press the power button for 1 second?
I seem to see some power consumption peak every 5minutes for a couple of seconds (-300 to -400 mA), but have no idea where they come from ? Everything is disabled, my TC has just been hard reseted ?
Any other ideas?
Dag
What are you using 3G or GSM?
If you are using 3G and the radio reception is poor ...
TDO
3G is enabled in the phone, but it is mainly connected using EDGE or GSM.
I don't have 3G network at home!
ok, what about the HSDPA?
Is it feasible to disable 3G? I have no idea how 3G works, can it be the case that since it is not feasible to get a signal, your device having 3G turned on consumes most of its battery trying to find a singnal?
Battery can be drained faster if the signal reception is not very good...
If i leave the phone switched on with nothing running, i do not have those peaks you mentioned.I would say 400mA is quite high...
If I want to really check my TC, should I let the screen always on (with the lowest light) or should I tell it to turn the screen off after 2 minutes or so?
It seems that if the screen goes off the measure are not made any more by PowerGuard !
What do you think?
Yes it goes off, so I adjust it so it does not switch off after a couple of mins. I would not bother leaving it on, all night long, I guess, if you leave it on 5-10 mins it should be representative of what happens.
While in this mode (screen on, but dimmed), I rarely have a consumption above 200mA (that is -200mA), the usual one is around -35mA. I get some spikes as well, but certainly not -400mA.
If the screen goes off and leave it like this for say a min, and then switch on the screen again, (by pressing the power button once), I can see a really very low consumption for a few seconds. Although powerGuard does not measure battery drain while screen is off, it seems that power consumption does go down a little bit, when you leave the device without doing anything.
To be honest, I do not know what will happen if i leave mine overnight and unplugged. Maybe I get the same power consumption as yours....
How bright your screen is? Mine is really low, on the second line from the left, for both battery power and external power....
ok I got it! I made some test tonight and found the same results as yours. I also set the screen brigthness to its lowest possible level and get an average of -30 to -35 mA. I have peaks to -200 mA pretty often.
The peaks to -400mA was a misreading of the scale, sorry!
So know we know we have the same device and the same problem, what can we do about it !
Could it be a battery problem? Mine is a HTC model : POLA160, 3.7VDC, 1350mAh made by "Total wireless solutions".
What's yours? what's language is your devie in? Should we try on of the cooked 6.1 rom for the cruise?
Dag
daghood said:
ok I got it! I made some test tonight and found the same results as yours. I also set the screen brigthness to its lowest possible level and get an average of -30 to -35 mA. I have peaks to -200 mA pretty often.
The peaks to -400mA was a misreading of the scale, sorry!
So know we know we have the same device and the same problem, what can we do about it !
Could it be a battery problem? Mine is a HTC model : POLA160, 3.7VDC, 1350mAh made by "Total wireless solutions".
What's yours? what's language is your devie in? Should we try on of the cooked 6.1 rom for the cruise?
Dag
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Turn off the radio completely.
If the peaks disapear you know that you have a poor receiption.
Than the behavior is normal and you can't do anything. (every phone will show the same)
TDO
hi again,
i think i am fairly ok with the current consumption. Basically, I will listen to a couple of hours of music using core player every day, sometimes more, sometimes less. I may make a couple of phone calls as well... Depending on how long i spent listening to music, starting from 100% around 8am, I end up with 60-80% around 8pm.
60% after listening music for quite long (few hours) plus watching some video while in train,maybe 30 mins of video or so...
80% if i listen to music maybe for 1-2 hours max.
Mind you though, the battery meter will go down from 100 to 90 quite easily, but it will not go down from 60 to 50 so easily. I was trying to drain the battery one day, and while it showed around 60% I let it overnight. I do not remember the exact reading, but the next morning it was quite above 40%...
Essentially I would say this is a device which consumes quite lots of power, I always recharge it when i come back home. I reckon, it would not last beyond 3 days on a single charge, which is something I have accepted.
For long journeys in train or while waiting in airports, I know the battery will not last long, and in such cases I am sure I would like to watch a movie, or use messenger over GPRS or if I am in the airport maybe use WiFi... For these cases, I ordered a separate battery, my guess is, it is as big as the phone though
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=12207
However when I am travelling, I always carry a handbag so I can keep the big battery in it. This is a 5400mA battery, and I have heard other users being happy with it. (HTC Cruise has an 1870mA I think)... There is also a battery for HTC Cruise which is 2200mA and you can put it in the phone actually (with a different back which also ships with the battery). Of course, this may not be an option for you..
Maybe switch it to Airplane mode and see what happens?
I am leaving mine switched on tonight as well, just out of curiosity, so I will let you know tomorrow
I am looking forward to you response!
I hard reseted my device again this morning, took away my 8gb card and installed PowerGuard again
Dag
Hello daghood,
I have to say I did that test and I think I have a quite considerably less power consumption than yours :/
Fully charged yesterday, took it off the USB at around 23:30. As of now, 9:40, I have an indication of 94%
I must admit I do not know what "Turn off the radio completely" means; this was suggested by another member (TDO). Does it imply turning on the airplane mode, where all communication features are disabled? I am not sure this would normally cause a dramatic decrease in power consumption, (I think someone mentioned it goes down from 37 to 30-35), BUT, if the source of the problem is in communication features, it should be helpful in your case.
If you disable all the telecom features and the power consumption is ok, then it means that something is "wrong" with the networking features (GPRS, GSM, EDGE, 3G, whatever, I do not know).
I know I asked this previously, but is that HSDPA disabled? Also, is there a way to disable 3G? I am sorry for asking these again, maybe it is simply a case of bad signal reception, I don't know...
mines idle consumption is 1% per hour with:
screen off
wifi off
bluetooth off
3g off
edge off
phone on
only quickmenu and batterystatus running
1% per hour = 100 hours, so maybe HTC meant 450 hours if the phone is off?
or it can be the stock wm6 version.......
HI all Last night I Fully charged my HTC 3G and sleep but when I wake up i see it have 30% of battery .....70% gone
anyone know what is the problem ???????????????
sorry I don't know what happen I post tow topic and I cant remove IT please remove one I am really sorry
This might sound stupid, but did you make sure that the other end of your charger was connected?
Alternatively, perform a soft reset and see if your battery level changes back to normal.
It may be a problem with the battery..... otherwise it could be alot of different things.
if your internet, gps, backlight was on, where receiving text messages, receiving emails, if you have push mail set up, if you have weather updating all the time.... ect ect ect
How long where you out?
Sounds like gps was left on or perhaps wifi... maybe bluetooth. Some roms on here have been optimized to reduce battery consumption. Some are like night and day. Some of the older roms for my kaiser sucked the soul out of my battery. The newer ones are barely molesting it. I would try using Battery Status Today plugin to see how many ma you are consuming during idle... with bluetooth wifi and gps and post results. I remember i had a MOTO Q Global and until i fixed it with com port hack the gps was enable all the time! barely got 4-5 hours out of the extended battery... Just throwing that out there. I also find it funny that my kaiser uses so much power that it can not charged through usb from computer unless its in standby. If i try to use it tethered to the computer you see it slowly but surely drop the battery % . Everythings turned off or down to minimum in a non 3G area go figure.
Even if all the radio devices were on, wouldn't the device be taking power from the AC rather than from the battery? I have had my device cradled at full blast a few times (not overnight though), but battery did not go down...
It could be a problem with the battery just like Joel stated...
I am only assuming that you were charging the unit overnight. Sorry if I am misreading your post.
BTW, do you have S2U2 installed? It has happened to me that the device wakes up due to an event reminder and the screen does not turn off because of S2U2. I am running 1.37.
Just throwing it out there.
I do it again tonight and turn off all thing and see what happen then tell you
I have one another question whaaaaaaaaaaay anyone don't cook room for HTC ?3G
Hi all,
My 6 days old Sensation (Vodafone contract UK) discharge a huge amount during Standby (200-350mA). I got the number via Battery Widget Pro 1.65. For the first few days I did deplete the battery fully before charging it to full. Today I have factory reset it to the original condition at around 4pm with 58% battery full. Now at 9pm, it is only 18%. During this time, I spent about 1 hour with the phone, the rest is standby. I set the widget to monitor with 1 minute interval and when looking at the log file, it can be seen that the phone consumed from 200-400mA during the standby time. Coming from HD2 with Android modded 3-8mA standby consumption, this is a huge huge dissapoinment!
Is this because of my battery or is this my phone? Should I ask for a replacement? What about you, did you see similar pattern?
Thanks,
Duong
duongnt said:
Hi all,
My 6 days old Sensation (Vodafone contract UK) discharge a huge amount during Standby (200-350mA). I got the number via Battery Widget Pro 1.65. For the first few days I did deplete the battery fully before charging it to full. Today I have factory reset it to the original condition at around 4pm with 58% battery full. Now at 9pm, it is only 18%. During this time, I spent about 1 hour with the phone, the rest is standby. I set the widget to monitor with 1 minute interval and when looking at the log file, it can be seen that the phone consumed from 200-400mA during the standby time. Coming from HD2 with Android modded 3-8mA standby consumption, this is a huge huge dissapoinment!
Is this because of my battery or is this my phone? Should I ask for a replacement? What about you, did you see similar pattern?
Thanks,
Duong
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Ditto!! So annoyed since I too am coming from HD2 where HyperDroid's consumption had dropped to a flat 2mA in standby. This is insane for a native android device. Not to mention the heating while playing games and most importantly, the front facing camera producing upside down image during fring video chats.. grrr!
Dunno what the cause OR solution is (besides switching over to a custom rom if and when the BL gets unlocked and people like pongster develop for this device)...
Overall, sexy device but disappointed with such major holes left unattended..
A little offtopic but was a battery related questions and did not wanna start a new thread so posting here -
Does anybody know of if there's any app which can get the battery percent to show in the top bar instead of the default indicator?
Thanks
EDIT: neva mind... found it... everybody's allwoed 1 dumb post once in a while
something is keeping your phone awake, you need to figure out what it is.
xnifex said:
something is keeping your phone awake, you need to figure out what it is.
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Any ideas on how I can do that? I tried using current widget but I guess because it's not rooted, current widget showed me a log of 0mA all throughout (yeah rite! hehe)
when I figure it out myself I'll let you know.
Current things I found that killed my battery over night: VTOK & Google Latitude
I went into Settings --> About Phone --> Battery --> Battery Use and checked, and it says display is eating most of my battery.
As far as mine, I get about 12 hours of battery life with standard usage, with the display eating most of the life, so if you're saying the screen is off, you might get different results...
over my 8h sleep battery dropped like 10%, nothing special (count in : wifi on, sync with gmail, weather) guys. new phone, fresh unoptimized kernel and radio. it'll get better. my prev phone (desire) was like sh*t at beginning in relating to its current spec rom ... and btw for checkin consuption : system panel (not lite), there is monitoring and u can see which apps running again if ya shoot them, check sync-s etc. many many thing to do, hard to tell in a single post
r3v0Lut10n said:
over my 8h sleep battery dropped like 10%, nothing special (count in : wifi on, sync with gmail, weather) guys. new phone, fresh unoptimized kernel and radio. it'll get better. my prev phone (desire) was like sh*t at beginning in relating to its current spec rom ... and btw for checkin consuption : system panel (not lite), there is monitoring and u can see which apps running again if ya shoot them, check sync-s etc. many many thing to do, hard to tell in a single post
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well it certainly sounds like a part of it is specimen issue.. here's my latest experience... last few times i have let it completely discharge and then charge back while the phone was off so i dont mess with it... once 100% charged, i switched the phone on and received a call.. a 25 minute conversation ate away 15% of my battery... LOL...
then, (now it gets better)... in 2 hrs of standby, the phone was at 60% which means it lost another 15% battery in 2 hrs of "standby".. im not sure if i can even call that state a "standby" anymore...
anyways... im wondering if its worth pinning hopes on rom development on our forum or should i just return this and go with something like nexus S which, O well, I can live with... atleast it has a 3300mA batterypack available... what's the use of kickass speeds and features if i have to use a phone like a desktop..
Hey, I have pretty bad battery drain during stand by as well I recommend trying to adjust the sync accounts, esp HTC hub and how often it updates that should improve it...I have a bunch of HTC widgets set up so im suspecting that being the reason for battery drain during stand by also adjust your email update setting accordingly. Every little bit helps!
Battery gauge stuck at 100%
Another one slightly off topic - but why start another battery thread.
It is the second day with my Sensation, and since I took the phone off the charger this morning, the battery gauge has been stuck at 100%. All other apps reading the battery status (e.g. Battery Widget) show the same number. I rebooted the phone multiple times, replaced the battery - nothing - permanent 100%. Has anyone had a similar experience? Did I get a perpetuum mobile ?
BTW the readings were fine yesterday.
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Another one slightly off topic - but why start another battery thread.
It is the second day with my Sensation, and since I took the phone off the charger this morning, the battery gauge has been stuck at 100%. All other apps reading the battery status (e.g. Battery Widget) show the same number. I rebooted the phone multiple times, replaced the battery - nothing - permanent 100%. Has anyone had a similar experience? Did I get a perpetuum mobile ?
BTW the readings were fine yesterday.
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Yes, the rating will go downhill pretty quick after that. Mine behaves in the same way.
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Hey, I have pretty bad battery drain during stand by as well I recommend trying to adjust the sync accounts, esp HTC hub and how often it updates that should improve it...I have a bunch of HTC widgets set up so im suspecting that being the reason for battery drain during stand by also adjust your email update setting accordingly. Every little bit helps!
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Thanks for the pointer.. I will surely try that and see if it makes a difference..
That being said, call me crazy but it just occurs to me that HTC should be putting in some minimal efforts to check off basic quirks like battery consumption and QC. I mean all of us are spending a buttload of money on these devices year over year and then we rely on our devs here to give us basic functionality. Back in the days the reason people joined forums was to tweak devices.. Now it almost feels like we might as well expect only the hardware for the price we pay... disappointed!
Anywho...
I fully charged the phone before I went to bed last night. Eight hours later, the battery is at 10%. Is there something wrong with the battery?
Try using the Spare Parts app to see what's really using the battery in detail.
so.. do they use battery if they are on but not used? i have read yes and no. do they use battery if on but not used?
I leave both on and my battery life is great.
Install a battery monitor app (the one that provide how long your battery going to last), when you enabled gps, it showed a 2 hrs drop from the total, so the answer is yes even without using it. A big surprise between wifi and 4g, they consummed almost the same power, only 10min less from the wifi.
Yes.
GPS still tracks where you are for apps running in the background (e.g. Google Now).
Wifi is constantly searching for a connection when on. Staying connected to wifi also takes battery.
I have extensively compared both running with the GPS on all the time & never using it at all.
It made virtually no difference whatever in my battery life (unless it's actually doing something which is infrequent, it really uses no battery at all), so I leave it on 24/7.
I have done this in phones all the way back to my DroidX & don't give it a second thought at this point.
Also tried many tests to see if wifi and gps on/off makes a difference. Almost none, leave them on, even BT left on didnt' make much difference.
My beloved red Nexus 5 starts acting up... the battery drains extremely fast. Some weeks ago, I could barely make it to 2pm without having to recharge after unplugging. So I got a new battery (directly from LG, so definitely a genuine part) which improved the situation, but didn't completely solve the problem. Additionally, I flashed a CM 13 CAF ROM (using myfluxi's kernel) onto the N5 - I enjoy it so far, but there was actually no further change converning battery life.
Right now, the phone is at 10% after being unplugged in the morning at 9am. Wifi, bluetooth, GPS and mobile data were constantly on, cell signal was mostly perfect, wifi was connected for about 3h, bluetooth was always connected to my Moto 360. Screen on-time is about 2h and I listened to music using GPM for about 2h. The battery settings do not indicate any app using up too much battery power - it shows the display at 15%, cell standby at 10% and then several apps.
What do you think - a Nexus 5 with a new battery should make it through a day, shouldn't it?
I remember my first Nexus 5, back in the days with a G watch, making it through a day without any problem with 15-20% left when I plugged it in before going to bed... because of that, I start to think if there might be a bad electronics part, like the display backlight or something on the mainboard, using up too much power without being noticed by the OS. Is that possible?
Thank you very much for your advice!
iYassin
Read and post in the battery life troubleshooting thread stickied to the top of this forum, it will help logically determine what is using your battery.
You have a lot running at once, so difficult at the moment to solve your issue. It's better to turn things on/off one by one to make logical conclusions whether it has any noticeable effect.
The best logical way to conclude if it is a hardware problem is to go fully sock no additional apps no root etc, see if it 'drains' by itself
If not hardware, then 99% of the time it is a bad app(s) keeping your phone awake
This is likely not the case, but have you checked the CPU settings? I've only encountered such a drain while using performance governor together with overclocking.
Same here
I have the same problem and I have been banging my head about it, I don't really use my phone for anything much else than a phone and I kept having at least 3 days of using it with no problems.
Now the phone barely lasts 2 days and even switches off in the middle of the night...
Stormspik3 said:
I have the same problem and I have been banging my head about it, I don't really use my phone for anything much else than a phone and I kept having at least 3 days of using it with no problems.
Now the phone barely lasts 2 days and even switches off in the middle of the night...
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In the OP's case, his drain is likely caused by having GPS on all the time. That will absolutely devour battery life, so he could save himself some grief by turning it off until he than your phone turns off occasionally. First guess would be the power button going bad; that is generally the reason for needs it.
For you, who knows? You've not given any information, otherthat type of behavior
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In the OP's case, his drain is likely caused by having GPS on all the time. That will absolutely devour battery life, so he could save himself some grief by turning it off until he than your phone turns off occasionally. First guess would be the power button going bad; that is generally the reason for needs it.
For you, who knows? You've not given any information, other that type of behaviour
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Yes, sorry about that I was a bit annoyed at the phone. I found and fixed the problem. Go to settings > apps > disable google fit > click yes when it gives you some notifications about how you'll lose data or stuff like that > and click force stop at the end for good measure.
I am in my second day now of battery life at 59% with a looooooooot of talking today , I mean more than usual so it is definitely a fix for me. Hope it helps
Take care gents
Regards
Nik
Again same problem
Hi all,
Unfortunately I have better battery life but I am again losing a lot of battery.
I have a screenshot but I am unable to upload it sorry about that.
I use my phone mainly for calls roughly about 15 mins per day at the most in total ( not a lot at all I know) and I also have my bluetooth on at all times cause I have LG G Watch.
thing is that I have never had problems with the battery before. When I say before back in the day I still had my LG G Watch ( I have it for about 6-7 months) . Problem with the battery started roughly around 1 month.
Location is off, wi-fi is on on very rare occasions throughout the day when I need to check my e-mail and mobile data is the same. Navigation is used only if needed.
The real problem is that before I knew what was draining my batter now I have 79% of battery usage and I have 5 apps listed that drained each 1%
Android System 1%
Phone Idle 1%
Screen 1%
Google play services 1%
Android OS 1%
Where are the other 15 % ??
It is weird I really took pride in that phone and his battery life, I know that it is mainly because I don't use it as a regular used do i.e. gaming, facebook etc, but I still want to charge less than 1 time per 2 days or less
Thanks in advance
Regards
Nik
Stormspik3 said:
Hi all,
Unfortunately I have better battery life but I am again losing a lot of battery.
I have a screenshot but I am unable to upload it sorry about that.
I use my phone mainly for calls roughly about 15 mins per day at the most in total ( not a lot at all I know) and I also have my bluetooth on at all times cause I have LG G Watch.
thing is that I have never had problems with the battery before. When I say before back in the day I still had my LG G Watch ( I have it for about 6-7 months) . Problem with the battery started roughly around 1 month.
Location is off, wi-fi is on on very rare occasions throughout the day when I need to check my e-mail and mobile data is the same. Navigation is used only if needed.
The real problem is that before I knew what was draining my batter now I have 79% of battery usage and I have 5 apps listed that drained each 1%
Android System 1%
Phone Idle 1%
Screen 1%
Google play services 1%
Android OS 1%
Where are the other 15 % ??
It is weird I really took pride in that phone and his battery life, I know that it is mainly because I don't use it as a regular used do i.e. gaming, facebook etc, but I still want to charge less than 1 time per 2 days or less
Thanks in advance
Regards
Nik
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As stated above, read and post in the battery life troubleshooting thread stickied to the top of Q&A.
They will help logically diagnose what is using your battery.