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[NO MORE DEVELOPMENT][ROM] ICS SDK PORT v0.1 PRE-ALPHA

ATTENTION: I AM NO LONGER ON THE INFUSE, I'VE SWITCHED TO SPRINT AND NOW HAVE A NEXUS S. I WILL NOT KEEP WORKING ON THIS, I HAVE NO WAY TO TEST BUILDS. I COMPLETELY FORGOT THIS TOPIC UNTIL Erik_T PM'D ME YESTERDAY. I WILL KEEP EVERYTHING UP, IN CASE ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO TRY. I'M SORRY, GOODBYE.
Hey guys, I've managed to get the ics sdk from the galaxy s running on our infuses. It's basically useless for now, but i plan to work on it more.
**BTW I USED THE UPDATER SCRIPT FROM A ROM CALLED HAWKISH, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TIME FOR MY OWN BUT I'LL MAKE ONE LATER.**
Working-*Basically nothing*
I have a video and some pictures that i will be uploading. I did manage to get around by using Android Screencast and the arrow keys on my computer.
I am mostly posting this because i am looking for someone to possibly help me. I'm not really a dev and was just doing this for fun.
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Out of curiosity (because I was planning on doing the same thing over this weekend), did you use LinuxBozo's hell raiser kernel plus modem to get this working?

Sounds kind of exciting!
-Sent from the office bathroom.

so.... same thing Linuxbozo did Oct 21st?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314145

Furies said:
Out of curiosity (because I was planning on doing the same thing over this weekend), did you use LinuxBozo's hell raiser kernel plus modem to get this working?
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No, i replaced the boot.img with the one from cm7 and added the modem from Serendipity.

-Kevlar- said:
so.... same thing Linuxbozo did Oct 21st?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1314145
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That one never booted for me, and I remember reading that it didnt for some others. The thread was also closed.

It was closed because of the complete lack of respect, and the silly posts that happened to flood into the thread. Hopefully that doesn't happen to you, but anything goes around here it seems.

LinuxBozo said:
It was closed because of the complete lack of respect, and the silly posts that happened to flood into the thread. Hopefully that doesn't happen to you, but anything goes around here it seems.
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Yes i know. I hope it doesn't, but you never know. Do you think there's any possibility that you could help me out at least with the screen?

Uploaded..

Good luck with your endeavor.

Nice! All the ICS development seems to be very popular right now. Hopefully this rise in interest will bring interesting discoveries.
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bsutton said:
No, i replaced the boot.img with the one from cm7 and added the modem from Serendipity.
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Cool, now its just a matter of drivers and kernel tweeks. Thats not hard at all
*note to anyone reading the above post, that was sarcasm*

i just wanted to get a glimpse of it but i cant get this one to boot either...oh well maybe the devs can work thier magick on this one....thanks man

Cool. No one is going to get anywhere until the source is released, which should be around november 17 when the galaxy nexus comes out. Then hopefully linuxbozo can do some magic haha or just simply wait for cm9, which linux will have to port that over (should be a little easier then the first idea). Can't wait linux! All hopes on you for at least getting cm9 working haha.

LinuxBozo said:
It was closed because of the complete lack of respect, and the silly posts that happened to flood into the thread. Hopefully that doesn't happen to you, but anything goes around here it seems.
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This.
That thread alone made me want to get rid of this phone and go to something else. Which will hopefully be soon.
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P1 Wookie said:
This.
That thread alone made me want to get rid of this phone and go to something else. Which will hopefully be soon.
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You want to change phones because of the people who also own them who may be less mature than yourself?
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Kevinr678 said:
You want to change phones because of the people who also own them who may be less mature than yourself?
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Because this whole section is a clusterfuck. And no it's not the ONLY reason, there are better phones out now. But yes I get tired of weeding through all the repetitive bs here.
EDIT: And I'm not gonna go any further with this here. Not gonna hijack this person's thread over this.
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P1 Wookie said:
Because this whole section is a clusterfuck. And no it's not the ONLY reason, there are better phones out now. But yes I get tired of weeding through all the repetitive bs here.
EDIT: And I'm not gonna go any further with this here. Not gonna hijack this person's thread over this.
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I'm sorry bro but im just letting you know now, anywhere you go it's gonna be just the same I switch phones constantly or have more than one and its like it in every forum. Right now i have an infuse, a cappy, an epic 4g, and a g-tablet, and they all have immature posters. As for the person who can't get it booting, i just wiped both data and cache, then flashed. Which recovery are you in?

Hey, all im going to say is that it is already working on the nexus s, but is not fully performance enhanced. http://gadgetu.net/android-ice-cream-sandwich-review-nexus-s/ Just a little bit more hope ha.

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I'm sorry bro but im just letting you know now, anywhere you go it's gonna be just the same I switch phones constantly or have more than one and its like it in every forum. Right now i have an infuse, a cappy, an epic 4g, and a g-tablet, and they all have immature posters. As for the person who can't get it booting, i just wiped both data and cache, then flashed. Which recovery are you in?
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im in red recovery and then tried green...still no go

[Q] ICS ROMs on Charge

Since we can't use a ROM manager to flash, does anyone know of any of the developers having a "md5" file available to be flashed with Odin?

MD5 is just a hash used as to check data errors - basically to make sure you're not flashing an incomplete or corrupted file. I gather you're asking if there is an Android 4.0 based ROM that can be flashed on our phones? The answer is no. It's being worked on, but currently the best you can do is to make sure you're on the most up to date release for the Charge (EP4D) and then flash an ICS theme and then change launchers to ADW or Go Launcher and install an ICS theme for the launcher.

Thanks for the information. That's what I figured but I was trying to be optimistic. I am currently running Humble 5.0 and it has been great. I have the inability to stay stock and am looking forward to having ICS. Especially since I am so far out for an upgrade and don't have copious amounts of cash lying around to buy a Nexus out of contract. Thanks again, I appreciate it.

NYbowtech said:
Thanks for the information. That's what I figured but I was trying to be optimistic. I am currently running Humble 5.0 and it has been great. I have the inability to stay stock and am looking forward to having ICS. Especially since I am so far out for an upgrade and don't have copious amounts of cash lying around to buy a Nexus out of contract. Thanks again, I appreciate it.
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Just keep in mind, "being worked on" means there is an attempt being made to get it booting. IF that happens (which is by no means a guarantee), there is still a lot of work to do to make it fully functional. I wouldn't expect to ever have ICS. If we do, that's awesome. Just don't expect it.

charlie_c said:
MD5 is just a hash used as to check data errors - basically to make sure you're not flashing an incomplete or corrupted file. I gather you're asking if there is an Android 4.0 based ROM that can be flashed on our phones? The answer is no. It's being worked on, but currently the best you can do is to make sure you're on the most up to date release for the Charge (EP4D) and then flash an ICS theme and then change launchers to ADW or Go Launcher and install an ICS theme for the launcher.
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I didn't think you could give this kind of reply on xda? Aren't you supposed to say something about being tired of noobs not using the search and end by telling the guy to port ICS on his own?? If you don't, who (besides 100 other users) will?
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ethanperkins17 said:
I didn't think you could give this kind of reply on xda? Aren't you supposed to say something about being tired of noobs not using the search and end by telling the guy to port ICS on his own?? If you don't, who (besides 100 other users) will?
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He caught me at a moment of weakness.

I did do a search of the other forums before I posted this thread. I may be a noob however.I'm not an idiot and nor will stand to be treated like one. I posted the thread because I could find nothing addressing my specific question regarding a "md5" file. I appreciate Charlie_c getting back to me with a simple response and the subject was done.
This is now one forum less I will be following.
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NYbowtech said:
This is now one forum less I will be following.
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OH GOD THE HORROR
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NYbowtech said:
I did do a search of the other forums before I posted this thread. I may be a noob however.I'm not an idiot and nor will stand to be treated like one. I posted the thread because I could find nothing addressing my specific question regarding a "md5" file. I appreciate Charlie_c getting back to me with a simple response and the subject was done.
This is now one forum less I will be following.
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Not to refute your claim to intelligence, but I was being sarcastic in a way to praise Charlie for being polite to you. I'm sorry you took it the wrong way.
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Wow, people get a good answer and then complain? Suck it up and be thankful people are willing to explain something to you that you otherwise would have had to spend your own time researching...
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NYbowtech said:
I did do a search of the other forums before I posted this thread. I may be a noob however.I'm not an idiot and nor will stand to be treated like one. I posted the thread because I could find nothing addressing my specific question regarding a "md5" file. I appreciate Charlie_c getting back to me with a simple response and the subject was done.
This is now one forum less I will be following.
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You missed the sarcasm unfortunately.
That's a shame considering the awesomeness of knowledge and helpfulness contained within these forums!

adrenaline_rush said:
You missed the sarcasm unfortunately.
That's a shame considering the awesomeness of knowledge and helpfulness contained within these forums!
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lol right? and the kid only has 4 post so i hardly belive the kid saying he "follows" this site..hes def a nub

Want Sky Ice Cream Sandwich; Need Help

Phone/carrier: gs2 skyrocket, att 2 gb data plan, southern california
Goal of Thread: Step by step what to do to root and then obtain sky ics and how to back up all my stuff and address some concerns I have
Concerns: What disadvantages are there as far as functionality and usability, will the phone still work well with Samsung Kies
Also how should I back up my contacts and stuff.
Also what version of this rom should I use?

Oh son if you need to ask for advantages and how to's you aren't ready read more
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nrm5110 said:
Oh son if you need to ask for advantages and how to's you aren't ready read more
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I'm sorry, just to clarify I'm just a bit hesitant, I'm relatively well versed in the advantages of rooting, I'm just trying to be clear as I'm new to this forum and would rather be humble than assuming.
Please forgive my badly phrased post.

Make yourself a pot of coffee ....and begin reading. Every question you have will have an answer in this link.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
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defnow said:
Make yourself a pot of coffee ....and begin reading. Every question you have will have an answer in this link.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383464
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Agreed. It takes a lot of reading, and sometimes trial and error (with a good portion of patience).
I had a friend who tried to flash and thought he bricked his phone, after hours and hours of trying to fix it. Gave it to me and after a little while more got it fully working.
It's pretty hard to brick these phones, and it'll almost never happen if you follow instruction (probably like 99.9% of the time you won't brick).
Once you get the hang of it it's pretty easy.

i don't think you really learn until you brick(soft). Thats how I did.

That Awesome Force Close Is Back!

Well, I finally did it - back to stock. Just had too many issues with the roms, although they were super fun.
I thought, "Well the stock Froyo didn't have any issues from what I remember..."
Except all the force closes. It's amazing. I remember now how bad it was.
And yes, I'm rooted.
What can I do to fix these? These random force closes are brutal. Other people must be dealing with this.
Thanks!

Unroot, and just run. It sucks, im forced on it until i trade mine in. Trust me, it gets soo laggy makes the phone look like its a piece of junk. Im trying to get out of this brutal life to go to some *ahem* delicious snack builds.

delfinparis said:
Well, I finally did it - back to stock. Just had too many issues with the roms, although they were super fun.
I thought, "Well the stock Froyo didn't have any issues from what I remember..."
Except all the force closes. It's amazing. I remember now how bad it was.
And yes, I'm rooted.
What can I do to fix these? These random force closes are brutal. Other people must be dealing with this.
Thanks!
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Issues with to many roms? Wow...just a question which Roms ? With so many great Roms...why would we put the brakes on and go to froyolo...well hope it pans out for you....
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You are doing something wrong if you are having those problems. Its not the roms. You need to give more info if you want help.
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I agree with Tmtease and bigjoe, more info. I flash ten times a day (bigjoe maybe more) working on stuff and no fc's. Need more info to help. There are a great range of roms right now that run smooth. Why go backwards?

Haha im sure bigjoe flashes more than 10 times a day xD but yeah more info would be lovely. Wed love to help in any way we can. Let us know!!
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ppalbicke said:
I agree with Tmtease and bigjoe, more info. I flash ten times a day (bigjoe maybe more) working on stuff and no fc's. Need more info to help. There are a great range of roms right now that run smooth. Why go backwards?
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Ok all I am a not flasholic
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I don't have issues...
I don't need intervention...
I dont have a need to flash just to get thru my day...
Ha...Ha...
Serious I do have a DD (look down @ signature)
But with all these ROMs ....I flash to provide assistance... they are / becoming great ROMs...
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Haha im sure bigjoe flashes more than 10 times a day xD but yeah more info would be lovely. Wed love to help in any way we can. Let us know!!
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First of all, THANKS for the reply.
I'm wondering if this is a Titanium Backup issue. I get a TON of single vibrate than three-vibrate signals followed by a mobile manager close (or other force close). I always use TB to reinstall my apps after a rom flash. I only do app reinstall (not app + data)
But the one-vibrate followed by three-vibrate, that happens all the time.
Just like the first responder said, the lag is INSANE even on stock froyo and the force closes are frustrating.
Should I re-go back to stock and just never use TB and install all apps manually? Or is there a way to figure this out? Because if so, I can shoot back up to a nice ICS build.
THANK you!!!

I use TB regularly... best $$ for an app I spent...if your just gonna settle for stock why not go with qkster one clicker... to stock ?
I backup and restore regularly no prob...
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tmease1 said:
You are doing something wrong if you are having those problems. Its not the roms. You need to give more info if you want help.
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Please don't assume anything. As someone who had a computer repair business, I can attest to the fact that sometimes hardware just doesn't play nice no matter what you do. Or are you one of those people that think hardware can never be at fault?
My phone had the same issues with any rom I tried. And no, I wasn't doing anything wrong. I tried installing from rooted stock, did all the wipes and formatting, but every time it eventually became glitchy. So far, stock works fine for me, so I'm sticking with it. There's obviously something about my hardware that doesn't agree with the updated kernel/software.
Samsung made millions of these phones. Do really believe that every single one will work perfectly with software that wasn't intended for it in the first place?

Short answer, no. Everyone was just trying to help. We see a ton of these threads saying there is a problem only to find out someone made a mistake or skipped a step.
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wolfen69 said:
Please don't assume anything. As someone who had a computer repair business, I can attest to the fact that sometimes hardware just doesn't play nice no matter what you do. Or are you one of those people that think hardware can never be at fault?
My phone had the same issues with any rom I tried. And no, I wasn't doing anything wrong. I tried installing from rooted stock, did all the wipes and formatting, but every time it eventually became glitchy. So far, stock works fine for me, so I'm sticking with it. There's obviously something about my hardware that doesn't agree with the updated kernel/software.
Samsung made millions of these phones. Do really believe that every single one will work perfectly with software that wasn't intended for it in the first place?
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He is doing something wrong if he can go back to froyo and everything is ok. If you don't like what i have to say, i don't care. You aren't helping him out by starting **** with me. Quit trying to be stupid.
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Ok gents lets just step back...
The op has basically made his choice... we are just adding our thoughts to his choice...
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tmease1 said:
He is doing something wrong. If you don't like what i have to say, i don't care. You aren't helping him out by starting **** with me. Quit trying to be stupid.
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I forgot that you know everything. You obviously know nothing about hardware and the possibility that something could be wrong with his phone. Quit trying to be stupid? Wow. I had a computer repair business, can fix any computer, compile kernels and pretty much do anything in linux and windows, and was made an ubuntu member. (which btw, there are only 740 people in the world that have been granted this title because of outstanding achievements in the ubuntu/linux world) Yeah, I'm real stupid.
It's people like you with no real tech abilities that resort to calling someone stupid, and you think you know it all. I never said it was definitely a hardware problem, merely that it could be. Grow up and get a clue.

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Ok gents lets just step back...
The op has basically made his choice... we are just adding our thoughts to his choice...
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Thank you. I gave my opinion on what the problem was and that was all. I didn't need someone to write a full page article about it trying to prove me wrong.
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bigjoe2675 said:
Ok gents lets just step back...
The op has basically made his choice... we are just adding our thoughts to his choice...
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Joe
I believe they have stepped back. Unfortunately its to their corners of the ring.
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tmease1 said:
Thank you. I gave my opinion on what the problem was and that was all. I didn't need someone to write a full page article about it trying to prove me wrong.
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When someone goes around saying it's definitely this or definitely that, yeah, I have a problem with it. You're implying that there's no chance of it being hardware related. That right there shows how much you really know.
Btw genius, my phone never ran 100% perfect from the start. I suppose that was my fault because I took it out of the box wrong?

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I forgot that you know everything. You obviously know nothing about hardware and the possibility that something could be wrong with his phone. Quit trying to be stupid? Wow. I had a computer repair business, can fix any computer, compile kernels and pretty much do anything in linux and windows, and was made an ubuntu member. (which btw, there are only 740 people in the world that have been granted this title because of outstanding achievements in the ubuntu/linux world) Yeah, I'm real stupid.
It's people like you with no real tech abilities that resort to calling someone stupid, and you think you know it all. I never said it was definitely a hardware problem, merely that it could be. Grow up and get a clue.
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I do know everything, thanks.
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Hi guys - no, I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to be running GB or ICS without the force close issues.
Maybe my second post got lost among the, ahem, spirited debate but I would love some assistance.
I'm 99.9% sure I reflashed back to stock correctly. Then all I did was a recovery with TB (app only, no data). I've read elsewhere this could be the culprit.
Any ideas? This force close and lag thing is driving me nuts. Plus it hinders any roms I flash for GB or ICS.
Thank you in advance!

Help im very sorry

I'm using cm 10.0.0 I guess its the stable version but a update popped up I know I'm probably gonna hear it but I've tried to look it up but no luck do I just flash or do I have to do a full wipe I'm sorry not familiar with cm and there updates
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amazin1988 said:
I'm using cm 10.0.0 I guess its the stable version but a update popped up I know I'm probably gonna hear it but I've tried to look it up but no luck do I just flash or do I have to do a full wipe I'm sorry not familiar with cm and there updates
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First off, this belongs in the Q and A section
THE BEAST

amazin1988 said:
I'm using cm 10.0.0 I guess its the stable version but a update popped up I know I'm probably gonna hear it but I've tried to look it up but no luck do I just flash or do I have to do a full wipe I'm sorry not familiar with cm and there updates
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what about this forum is so difficult for you to follow?

First I'm not gonna be rude i said sorry and there are so many different threads for cm I couldn't find the right away one and every time I go to q&a I get no help so its either your gonna help or your not don't comment on something I already know
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amazin1988 said:
first i'm not gonna be rude i said sorry and there are so many different threads for cm i couldn't find the right away one and every time i go to q&a i get no help so its either your gonna help or your not don't comment on something i already know
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lmaooooo
wipe cache, reboot, fixed.

Ty the update is installing so ill pm if I have any trouble
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amazin1988 said:
First I'm not gonna be rude i said sorry and there are so many different threads for cm I couldn't find the right away one and every time I go to q&a I get no help so its either your gonna help or your not don't comment on something I already know
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What do you mean you get no help? This isn't your first time posting to the wrong forum and you've gotten answers every time. Don't lie and say you've tried Q&A and gotten no help.

Post under where you got your download, you can't just say sorry and just clog up our threads with your issues, you don't own it you know. We all have had or have issues at times. Doesn't give you the right to just post what you want and where you want. You need to be flagged and banned!
You are a butt hole, a sweaty salty nutty butt hole.

Please read forum rule 15 if you are not sure where to post
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I've said it before but it bears repeating. If you honestly don't know things like this then; you haven't done enough research, have no business flashing a somewhat experimental ROM like CM, and want to be spoonfed every answer. I cannot believe some of the people who don't think twice about flashing and don't know what to do when things go wrong. Before I flashed my very first ROM on my og droid, I knew everything about the process. Because when things went wrong I wasn't depending on someone else to hold my hand.
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lucky13 said:
I've said it before but it bears repeating. If you honestly don't know things like this then; you haven't done enough research, have no business flashing a somewhat experimental ROM like CM, and want to be spoonfed every answer. I cannot believe some of the people who don't think twice about flashing and don't know what to do when things go wrong. Before I flashed my very first ROM on my og droid, I knew everything about the process. Because when things went wrong I wasn't depending on someone else to hold my hand.
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You'd be amazed how many people flash hboots for HTC devices without verifying MD5 sums. That one time there is a bad upload and you will be up the creek without a paddle.
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nosympathy said:
You'd be amazed how many people flash hboots for HTC devices without verifying MD5 sums. That one time there is a bad upload and you will be up the creek without a paddle.
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Its almost too easy to flash/root anything now. The era of on the edge of your seat, pushing files via adb, praying it works, but knowing exactly what you're doing, is over. It's all on click root apps now. It's a double edged sword, really. People don't take the time to read up on what they're doing, knowing they have the crutch of coming here.
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It seems like those of us who actually do their homework before rooting their devices are decreasing.

lucky13 said:
Its almost too easy to flash/root anything now. The era of on the edge of your seat, pushing files via adb, praying it works, but knowing exactly what you're doing, is over. It's all on click root apps now. It's a double edged sword, really. People don't take the time to read up on what they're doing, knowing they have the crutch of coming here.
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I agree ever so much. I remember rooting/unlocking the thunderbolt when the first root/unlock came out. Took almost 45 mins and if you goofed a few steps your device was a brick. People thought twice back then and were more careful.
As devices get harder to brick people just do whatever and as you said will just come here for help. I have spent hours and hours breaking things just to figure out how they work. I came to this phone and released the first working 100% deodexed ROM for this phone because of it. I spent hours and hours trying to figure out why the others couldn't.
So I get a little bothered when people spend 10 mins and give up and expect help.
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The thunderbolt is such a pain to root I am shocked that I didn't brick my cousin's phone. Yeah phones are much easier to root but it is also much easier to solve a lot of the issues you come across on your own. I for one won't be bothering you nosympathy or any developer with questions unless I exhaust all my options.

jmxc23 said:
The thunderbolt is such a pain to root I am shocked that I didn't brick my cousin's phone. Yeah phones are much easier to root but it is also much easier to solve a lot of the issues you come across on your own. I for one won't be bothering you nosympathy or any developer with questions unless I exhaust all my options.
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Haha don't take it the wrong way I don't mind helping but when people post a question answered two posts above them or create a thread for a question when one exists and is still on the front page, those are where I get annoyed. Also when people don't at least try and search first. You can always tell if they have searched or not.
I try to be helpful though long as you tried first
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jmxc23 said:
It seems like those of us who actually do their homework before rooting their devices are decreasing.
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lol seriously, i was printing out guides and taking notes before i started.
i wish i was financially stable enough to be so careless with my phone.