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Why is it that people that have been part of the community for a while are such dicks? I don't understand why people are so inconsiderate when someone new asks a question. I understand there is a Q/A section and that people should read but when someone asks a "nebbish" question is a thread that it is OBVIOUSLY pertaining to people jump right on top of them and say stuff like "read it dumbass" or "google it". In the time that it takes to make such an a$$whole remark you could be a nice individual and help the person out. I understand it probably gets frustrating when people ask the same questions over and over but grow up. If your going to be part of a "hacking" community new people are going to come into the game and ask the tried and true questions. I for one asked plenty of question when I first started modding my phones and came across plenty of jerkoffs with snide remarks. It's very frustrating when you're getting used to a new system and have to spends hours and hours reading to try and find 1 answer to a simple question instead of being able to just ask. This is a community which by definition is a group of people living together in one place, esp. one practicing common ownership, and we should act like it. Help your fellow modders don't curb stomp their new excitement of having a new nifty phone.
I do agree that people are much, MUCH harsher on people than they should be, but I also believe that there is an etiquette for posting. In my book, if someone labels a thread as [Q] in general, no big deal. I don't give a crap what section it's in, just so it has some kind of order to it. Threads titled DEEZ NUTZ MAH PHONE IZ BROKE usually are begging to be flamed.
And on that note, I will simply say this:
treat others politely, and they will do the same. Unless they are doushecanoes. In which case you probably wouldn't want their advice anyway.
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I'll offer my 2 cents on this topic. What I'd like to know is what are the repercussions of having numerous thrends of the same or similar topic, will the forum lag, will our cool phones spontaneously combust right before our very eyes, ill say non of the above. So who really gives a [email protected]$ if we have repeat topics...instead of replying "Google it or use the search option" (which sucks by the way) all you have to do is NOTHING, just use the back button on your phone and release yourself from the topic.
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It isn't just forum etiquette. In a forum as large and widely used as XDA, not following the rules severely inhibits the functionality of the site. Creating a new thread on an existing topic doesn't just create a duplicate search result; it splinters the conversation, making it harder for those very newbies - or even more advanced users - find the information they need. XDA Developers is a resource not just for new users who want to know how the change the background on their phone, but for advanced developers and everyone in between.
If I have an issue with a specific application, and I search for that application, but there are 20, 50, or 100+ threads, the amount of information I have to wade through to find the answers I'm looking for increases almost exponentially, since the same questions will undoubtedly be repeated in each and every thread. On top of that, the likelihood that a user (new or otherwise) will miss the one nugget they are looking for increases even more significantly.
Some of the harshness is indeed childish, but XDA isn't your personal butler or tech support for your new device. It is an online forum that needs people to follow the rules to continue to be as useful as we have all known it to be. Otherwise, it's usefulness will degrade to the point of uselessness, and those flamers don't want to see that happen.
I can't figure it out myself.
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I think the only reason why a lot of people are like that is because most of this stuff can be learned without asking any questions at all. Of course, there will be times when someone has a weird question and it has to be asked but if everyone would just review the rules and follow them there wouldn't be any problems.
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I think the only reason why a lot of people are like that is because most of this stuff can be learned without asking any questions at all. Of course, there will be times when someone has a weird question and it has to be asked but if everyone would just review the rules and follow them there wouldn't be any problems.
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I agree, I had my phone running Infused GB before I ever even posted on the forum. I simply researched my questions and made sure I knew exactly how to do what I wanted to before I changed anything on my phone. Some people are just lazy...95% percent of the time, the question has been answered.
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Why is it that people that have been part of the community for a while are such dicks? I don't understand why people are so inconsiderate when someone new asks a question. I understand there is a Q/A section and that people should read but when someone asks a "nebbish" question is a thread that it is OBVIOUSLY pertaining to people jump right on top of them and say stuff like "read it dumbass" or "google it". In the time that it takes to make such an a$$whole remark you could be a nice individual and help the person out. I understand it probably gets frustrating when people ask the same questions over and over but grow up. If your going to be part of a "hacking" community new people are going to come into the game and ask the tried and true questions. I for one asked plenty of question when I first started modding my phones and came across plenty of jerkoffs with snide remarks. It's very frustrating when you're getting used to a new system and have to spends hours and hours reading to try and find 1 answer to a simple question instead of being able to just ask. This is a community which by definition is a group of people living together in one place, esp. one practicing common ownership, and we should act like it. Help your fellow modders don't curb stomp their new excitement of having a new nifty phone.
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I believe the scientific term is called NERD RAGE. But while it is excessive, it's to prove a point. An organized forum is a happy forum.
Yeah but organization and common courtesy can coexist. Help each other instead of cutting each down. I understand the forum becomes a cluster fack when people post a crap load of stuff about the same topic
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Is there a way to adjust the search function to search the infuse forum rather than the entire forum (all devices) because that's the problem, I for one have tried countless times to search for something that I've read when the thrend was new but the search gives me topics from every device, and most of the time the search doesnt even locate what I'm looking for. So either look thru 100's of pages while guessing if the thrend was made in general or Q&A or post a new topic. I feel advanced search options would greatly reduce the repeat topic issue.
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It isn't just forum etiquette. In a forum as large and widely used as XDA, not following the rules severely inhibits the functionality of the site. Creating a new thread on an existing topic doesn't just create a duplicate search result; it splinters the conversation, making it harder for those very newbies - or even more advanced users - find the information they need. XDA Developers is a resource not just for new users who want to know how the change the background on their phone, but for advanced developers and everyone in between.
If I have an issue with a specific application, and I search for that application, but there are 20, 50, or 100+ threads, the amount of information I have to wade through to find the answers I'm looking for increases almost exponentially, since the same questions will undoubtedly be repeated in each and every thread. On top of that, the likelihood that a user (new or otherwise) will miss the one nugget they are looking for increases even more significantly.
Some of the harshness is indeed childish, but XDA isn't your personal butler or tech support for your new device. It is an online forum that needs people to follow the rules to continue to be as useful as we have all known it to be. Otherwise, it's usefulness will degrade to the point of uselessness, and those flamers don't want to see that happen.
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Have you seen how many posts are in some of these threads. We have threads in here that have over 1000 posts in them with prob 20% tell people to read the whole tread. I might be easier on the folks if the devs would start a new thread with a new version of their ROM or Kernel. I know most of the Dev in the captivate forum used to do that when I was on a cappy.
Just my two cents.
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Is there a way to adjust the search function to search the infuse forum rather than the entire forum
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YES!!! Near the top of a sub fourm, such as the infuse section, there is a SEARCH THIS FOURM link. You can even, from there, do an advanced search and really customize/narrow down your search results! Also within a thread at the top there is a SEARCH THIS THREAD link, which helps in those 100+ page threads.
As to why people jump all over "stupid" questions... IDk possibly mother issues???
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treat others politely, and they will do the same. Unless they are doushecanoes.
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This pretty much summed up the thread for me.
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YES!!! Near the top of a sub fourm, such as the infuse section, there is a SEARCH THIS FOURM link. You can even, from there, do an advanced search and really customize/narrow down your search results! Also within a thread at the top there is a SEARCH THIS THREAD link, which helps in those 100+ page threads.
As to why people jump all over "stupid" questions... IDk possibly mother issues???
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Those must be for the PC, the app search doesn't offer those features, unless I'm blind.
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Those must be for the PC, the app search doesn't offer those features, unless I'm blind.
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Yup, desktop site, app search blows....
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Its off topic
Ok so been searching around the forums and found there seems to be a few devs/rom devs that use this on the second or third post.....
List of Shame (Flagged Users)
These are the list of users who asked questions without properly reading the OP. It's a waste of space and a waste of time to read it. Read OP twice. Think twice. and Think again before posting. If you don't, you'll end up here and will no longer get the support you're looking from me and of course, it will be a big shame for you.
offender Names + offences Ie : op states Wifi does not work User X brings up wifi does not work.
Not sure where credit is actually due but could help to avoid a lot of drama.....
I LOVE this idea! Not sure if it's any kind of infringement on forum rules or not, but could be a great "checks and balance" for n00obs and others to think twice before posting...
Edit: I think we (you) should post a thread in the General Section, so as for all to see! Also, as mentioned below, create a set of "Rules of Redemption" for listees to have a chance to be removed.
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Well once someone gets their name in the list further posts from them will be ignored even if they are genuine dont you think??
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Oh this is awesome!!! I like the idea, but you should expand this for everyone, not just yourself to not give support to those list of users on this, list.
there should also be a way off the bad boy list too, not sure how at the moment, but there has to be a way to redeem oneself like maybe a three strikes or something to actually get on the list and then there is no getting off, but the first and second time(s) you get a chance to redeem yourself and can still get off this list maybe..
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Well once someone gets their name in the list further posts from them will be ignored even if they are genuine dont you think??
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Think this would be more to make users read and research a little more..... If they end up on the list and ask something down the road if it is relevant we will not shun them atleast me.....
@ Jim yea some type of balance system to keep things in check would be the way to go..... Someone on with 1 post on a list could say get a warning or whatever they end up repeat offenders then take action.....
How about the multiple section tags feature? This will act as keyword for searching. E.g. http://stackoverflow.com like meta tags....fixed tags for each section can only created by reputed members only.
I said so as we have auto suggestion for similar questions is already there.
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Lots of forums have a q&a section. Each rom then has a post where users can help each other and leave the dev threads uncluttered. It can be listed in op and any question asked can simply be replied with the link to said forum. This could be used in conjunction with a list of shame.
I once thought a forum had to have a certain amount of post to get a q&a but the ion has one with hardly any activity.
My two cents. I like the list of shame idea though.
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Well we could throw around some ideas and see what would be a fair way to work something like this.....
Here is my thoughts for this:
2 lists:
1) Infractions list:
Users name and a +1 or a +2 after their name, and the offense(s) i.e. not searching, or posting an issue in a forum that was already in the OP.
2) Permanent "bad boy list", this is 3 or more infractions, and the list of said infractions are not needed.
The fist list should include a link to said infraction(s), and it should last for 15 days for first offense, and 3-60 days for the 2nd offense. These offense should be notified to you hankbizzo through PM or some "more private" facility.
These are just my thoughts on this.
For each first time offender, a link to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857631[GUIDE] How To Be A New Member, Not A N00B (?) and a "written warning" with the expressed intent to add them to the 'black list' if found in contempt again...
Edit: hankbizzo5, and you might PM prbassplayer and see about getting him on board with this. If others can't read the rules (as listed by YOU) and post an offender in the thread and neglect to send said offender to you via PM, then you can have that post linked to their offense, assuming it's their first and in "written warning" with form.
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I will let this run for a few and gather as much info and oppinions as I can..... then will post up a (Bad boys list).....
Suggestions:
Rules, first and foremost- infractions of offenders to include, but not limited to:
Any member found posting in wrong sections and/or posting a new thread unnecessarily or a re-posting of similar thread(s).
Apparent and blatant failure to search before posting
Posting incorrect or bogus information
Flaming/trolling/or other 'misconduct' such as combative or abusive language and/or intolerance of others
Posting Warez or other solicitations for gain/profit/personal advantage
Spamming the boards
Not using or posting in English
Posting/bumping one's own threads repeatedly for quicker responses
Using other's work(s) without permission(s)
Not posting in clear, concise manner(s)
Asking for donations
(Basically, all the "normal" and expected forum rules to adhere to and observe)
Disciplinary Actions:
1st offense = "written warning" with in your (hankbizzo5) OP along with link of infraction and brief description
2nd offense = name of user added to the "List of Shame" with links to infractions and brief description. Name to be held on list for 15 days
3rd offense = name of user added to the "List of Shame" with links to infractions and brief description. Name to be held on list for 30 days
4th offense = name of user added to the "List of Shame" with links to infractions and brief description. Name to be held on list permanently
Rules of Redemption:
1st time offenders = provide 3 helpful or useful posts to members with links to be PM'd to hankbizzo5 for review of redemption and subsequent removal of List of Shame
2nd time offenders = provide 5 helpful or useful posts to members with links to be PM'd to hankbizzo5 for review of redemption and subsequent removal of List of Shame
3rd time offenders = provide 10 helpful or useful posts to members with links to be PM'd to hankbizzo5 for review of redemption and subsequent removal of List of Shame
4th time offenders= you're out of luck
Feel free to tweak/add/omit/etc
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jimbridgman said:
Here is my thoughts for this:
2 lists:
1) Infractions list:
Users name and a +1 or a +2 after their name, and the offense(s) i.e. not searching, or posting an issue in a forum that was already in the OP.
2) Permanent "bad boy list", this is 3 or more infractions, and the list of said infractions are not needed.
The fist list should include a link to said infraction(s), and it should last for 15 days for first offense, and 3-60 days for the 2nd offense. These offense should be notified to you hankbizzo through PM or some "more private" facility.
These are just my thoughts on this.
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And who will be judge and jury? How can we be assured that no bias is used in judgement.
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leifemagnuson said:
Lots of forums have a q&a section. Each rom then has a post where users can help each other and leave the dev threads uncluttered. It can be listed in op and any question asked can simply be replied with the link to said forum. This could be used in conjunction with a list of shame.
I once thought a forum had to have a certain amount of post to get a q&a but the ion has one with hardly any activity.
My two cents. I like the list of shame idea though.
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I agree wholeheartedly with a q&a section.
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Wow. I understand the intent behind all this, and if people have the time/energy to track it all, more power to you. I understand the frustration behind this effort, but I think it does more to quell free exchange of information than promote it. However, here's my two comments...
Flaming/trolling/or other 'misconduct' such as combative or abusive language and/or intolerance of others
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You may need to break this one out more. Flaming and Trolling are usually obvious, but I've seen some posts by all parties devolve into abusive and intolerant responses.
Not posting in clear, concise manner(s)
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Not sure about this one. Not everyone is clear and concise.
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And who will be judge and jury? How can we be assured that no bias is used in judgement.
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The "jury" might be a selection of Senior Members and Developers who could review the infractions. Let's face it, the rules are simple, and those breaking them are easy to spot. No need for "innocent until prove that guilty" with most of these kind of things...
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So I'm clear. Above scenarios jim's or apex's. The end result would be an agreement not to help people on the permanent banned list?
The ones on the infraction list could still participate and or receive help in say the general or if we get one the q&a thread for a specific rom?
Then only members "in good standing" could post bug or bug reports in the devs rom thread in dev section. Leaving the other sections for users to help thus relieving some of the reading and burden involved in maintaining a rom.
General section would still be open for threads other than blatant reposts or complete disregard for established xda forum rules?
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So I'm clear. Above scenarios jim's or apex's. The end result would be an agreement not to help people on the permanent banned list?
The ones on the infraction list could still participate and or receive help in say the general of if we get one the q&a thread for a specific rom?
Then only members "in good standing" could post bug or bug reports in the devs rom thread in dev section. Leaving the other sections for users to help thus relieving some of the reading and burden involved in maintaining a rom.
General section would still be open for threads other than blatant reposts or complete disregard for established xda forum rules?
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Well, it's all still sort of being fleshed out at the moment. Not even sure if we'll commit to such a thread, but if so those on the 'permanent' list don't necessarily get completely alienated, but there should be NO REASON for anyone to even get there. It's more a "boilerplate" consequence which should see no members find themselves there. As far as not allowing members to post in certain threads as result of their rule breaking, we don't have that type of authority nor should we want it. It's more like a "stockade", if you will, to keep everyone from fugging up; and if they do its right there for everyone to see. Nobody likes to be humiliated, and I doubt there will be much more than written reprimand actions being given anyhow. I don't know, hankbizzo5 says he's seen this done elsewhere, and chances are its 'quelled' no free exchange of information. Those that ended up on the lists elsewhere obviously said or did something stupid. I wouldn't consider that type of information exchange valued or important. Who knows, still in the bouncing around ideas and thoughts stages...
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leifemagnuson said:
So I'm clear. Above scenarios jim's or apex's. The end result would be an agreement not to help people on the permanent banned list?
The ones on the infraction list could still participate and or receive help in say the general of if we get one the q&a thread for a specific rom?
Then only members "in good standing" could post bug or bug reports in the devs rom thread in dev section. Leaving the other sections for users to help thus relieving some of the reading and burden involved in maintaining a rom.
General section would still be open for threads other than blatant reposts or complete disregard for established xda forum rules?
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Pretty much anyone can still do what they like, and it will still be up to anyone or everyone to do what they want. If you would like to follow the method on putting those on the so called bad boy list on your ignore list, is again up to you to do. These users can still post and do anything they want on xda, it is up to individual users to decide how they really want to take part or not in this. I am thinking for me that anyone who ends up on the permanent list would end up on my ignore list and anyone on the other lists would just be more like a slap on the hand would still get full support unless the really pushed it and ended up on the permanent list, which then again it is up to you to ignore or not.
That is just my take on it.
This seems puerile.
Of course this is all based whether we as users agree to said scenarios. My first paragraph could have been clearer I guess. Over all I like the idea. I think I prefer apex's 4th offence along with the redemption policy.
My thoughts on keeping this from being stickied. I, like I bet most of you don't always check the stickies when on tapatalk. I much prefer the bump system for this type of thing with links in op's and signatures.
Edit: Has anyone seen or read "A boy and his dog"? Who is the committee?
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Would there be any way to have a special membership level in the forum privileges that allows posting in the dev forums, this would force people I.E. general users with questions to read and discover the Q&A forums. To get said privileges someone should simply have to request and agree not to break those rules. Good idea?
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Would there be any way to have a special membership level in the forum privileges that allows posting in the dev forums, this would force people I.E. general users with questions to read and discover the Q&A forums. To get said privileges someone should simply have to request and agree not to break those rules. Good idea?
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No. Bad idea.
The Dev forums should be locked to anyone who doesn't have special status on XDA (e.g. Devs, RCs, RTs etc). For a 'normal' user to be able to post in the Dev forum they should have to be invited and approved by the Devs - and that right could be rescinded at any time.
That would have the secondary benefit of stopping the people who continually post useless cr4p just to get their post count up to 10
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No. Bad idea.
The Dev forums should be locked to anyone who doesn't have special status on XDA (e.g. Devs, RCs, RTs etc). For a 'normal' user to be able to post in the Dev forum they should have to be invited and approved by the Devs - and that right could be rescinded at any time.
That would have the secondary benefit of stopping the people who continually post useless cr4p just to get their post count up to 10
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I agree... To a point, the problem is to get RD ir RC you have to post guides or dev work... Which normally should go in the development section.
It really is a hard one and nothing will ever please all
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I'm not so sure that an invite system would be neccesary... just have a simple I agree site that gives access to the dev forums and the halfwits who go through that just to post where they shouldn't could then be banned and do everyone in these forums a favor!
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GinkgoBiloba said:
I'm not so sure that an invite system would be neccesary... just have a simple I agree site that gives access to the dev forums and the halfwits who go through that just to post where they shouldn't could then be banned and do everyone in these forums a favor!
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Umm, if you would propose that everyone who doesnt post in the correct section should be banned, then OP, you are kinda
stepping on your own feet...
As this thread belongs in About XDA...
As stated before, there doesn't seem to be a "one rule pleases all" compromise...
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I agree... To a point, the problem is to get RD ir RC you have to post guides or dev work... Which normally should go in the development section.
It really is a hard one and nothing will ever please all
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Well, for RC, you don't *necessarily* need to create threads, and that too, in the dev section...
Afaik, guides belong to the general section, but there are also accepted in the dev section if it is directly related to development, or is there to prevent non-dev posts in dev area...
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Yeah I can appreciate your sentiment but it's not a workable solution. Honestly I don't even think there's a problem, the mods are on their game and the 10 post rule helped weed out some people.
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Yeah I can appreciate your sentiment but it's not a workable solution. Honestly I don't even think there's a problem, the mods are on their game and the 10 post rule helped weed out some people.
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Actually, there must be something to keep them out of OT too, as n00bs come there frequently to increase their post count. I told two of them off today and I got ripped off for being a "party pooper". Sometimes, I wonder why I even bother.
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I just think if its important enough to keep the dev posts clean that they will lock them and then we get all the posts *****ing about misposts (worse then the mispost itself) then why not try something a little more locked down... why would a user like myself need access to post in a dev forum for?
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GinkgoBiloba said:
I just think if its important enough to keep the dev posts clean that they will lock them and then we get all the posts *****ing about misposts (worse then the mispost itself) then why not try something a little more locked down... why would a user like myself need access to post in a dev forum for?
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If you had frequent SODs you could up a logcat, it's very basic stuff and could potentially help the dev out.
Good ideas are always good, and i frequent the HD2 and Galaxy Nexus forums quite a bit, 2 of the busier dev forums, and don't really see problems with this.
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That is way some good devs left to other android forums. Like in any business growing big (from old times with 10 device forums, to the present, with "n"), the rules multiply, more & more restrictions, the anchor in real life is smaller with every day, and the thing that devs are humans with daily problems & mind lapsus for some links and minor stuff won't matter for some. Have a nice day.
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And now watch XDA close this thread. Rules are rules my friend, even if it was a simple mistake by seb, rules still apply. If there was no rules and everyone did as the pleased then there would be no XDA. The mods aint trying to be horrible or mean but if they dont stick by they're own rules then what chance has this site got. Thats just my opinion.
i don't care if this thread will be closed. as user of this site = the person who make traffic, who read topics and forums, and finally, i can say i'm the final consumer of this site ( you could name me client), i'm pissed off because that thread is closed, so i cannot find answers to my problems with the software provided by that thread. in legal terms, my rights are restricted here! i'm not talking about the developer, i'm talking about me, final consumer of this site, i'm the person on behalf this site, and without me as consumer, this site would not exist! SO, THIS IS ABOUT MY RIGHTS HERE! I HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT ONE SOFTWARE, AND I CANNOT BECAUSE SOMEBODY RESTRICTED MY RIGHT TO ACCESS THAT. => XDA UNLOCK THE THREAD, BECAUSE YOU AFFECT THE PEOPLE WICH GIVE A REASON FOR YOU TO EXIST! Have a nice day.
Chill man, mods are just doing their job and there's been a q&a thread dedicated to Sebastian's ROM in the q&a section so you can ask anything you want there
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i don't care if this thread will be closed. as user of this site = the person who make traffic, who read topics and forums, and finally, i can say i'm the final consumer of this site ( you could name me client), i'm pissed off because that thread is closed, so i cannot find answers to my problems with the software provided by that thread. in legal terms, my rights are restricted here! i'm not talking about the developer, i'm talking about me, final consumer of this site, i'm the person on behalf this site, and without me as consumer, this site would not exist! SO, THIS IS ABOUT MY RIGHTS HERE! I HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT ONE SOFTWARE, AND I CANNOT BECAUSE SOMEBODY RESTRICTED MY RIGHT TO ACCESS THAT. => XDA UNLOCK THE THREAD, BECAUSE YOU AFFECT THE PEOPLE WICH GIVE A REASON FOR YOU TO EXIST! Have a nice day.
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hahaha jeez dont take that tone of typing with me boy!! lol. if u read threads like u said u would of seen this [FAQ] Q&A, Troubleshooting, Help For SebastianFM [ROM] Revelation 1.0.0 | JB |. Simples. chillout
That thread is not the original, and you are missing the point here, "boy". I didn't talk with you, u don't know how old I am and what are my studies, so, watch your language.
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pixule said:
That thread is not the original, and you are missing the point here, "boy". I didn't talk with you, u don't know how old I am and what are my studies, so, watch your language.
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i know its not the original thread, but if uv a question then u can ask there. im not missing the point, the simple fact is rules r rules and us as users have to stick to them, the rules r the same if ur just an average user of xda or dev and if u dont stick to them then this is what happens. ur making a big deal over nothing, the thread will be open soon so just relax. i wasnt actually calling u a boy, its just where im from they use the word boy alot, like "alright boy hows things"? personally i dont care if ur 10 or 50
also u could have a read at this coz im guessing u havnt
[MANDATORY] RULES FOR DEVELOPMENT
Seb left? I don't get what you guys are arguing over, and I don't actually know what happened. But I do feel what OP about treating developers, because at end of the day, we, users of this site are being affected. I am not saying don't have rules, I am saying judge on the situation. Someone trolling is not the same as a good dev making a mistake. Even a big mistake, he/she should be given a chance due to the commitment they have put into this site and joy brought to fans in the past. Rules are important, but when people forget what rules are intended for then why do we even have them in the first place? If more and more dev leaves this site, the rules will be useless because no one will be using it. Like I said, I am not defending Seb because I don't even know what he did, instead just making a point. We have yet another good dev left sensation...
Problem solved. This tread could be closed.
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Pointless rants are not required, i suggest you dont comment on matters you know nothing about.
This forum is about developers, for developers. Its not for people to have a general moan. Dont like it? try somewhere else.
I don't understand that why people are hungry for likes in ace plus forum I have use HTC one v and looked in all the threads but I didn't find anyone begging for thanks
I am new to forum as I created account 2-3 weeks ago but still i guess we should help each other without the need of thanks!
am i right guys?
killer19 said:
I don't understand that why people are hungry for likes in ace plus forum I have use HTC one v and looked in all the threads but I didn't find anyone begging for thanks
I am new to forum as I created account 2-3 weeks ago but still i guess we should help each other without the need of thanks!
am i right guys?
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Yes there are some who want to have Thanks meter like devs.
Those are actually thanksicks
ALSO FORGOT Welcome to our forum .You'll meet spammers ,thanksicks,requesters,beggers here .
But placing threads on appropriate sub-forum is better as this may be considered a General Sub- Forum not Q&A Sub-Forum.
Just to remind you :
Never ask a dev for something
Never ask ETA (estimated time pf arrival)
Never spam forums/threads
Write clearly instead of u-you ,2-to
And post threads to appropriate sub-Forums .
Best regards for you .
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blinqipa said:
Yes there are some who want to have Thanks meter like devs.
Those are actually thanksicks
ALSO FORGOT Welcome to our forum .You'll meet spammers ,thanksicks,requesters,beggers here .
But placing threads on appropriate sub-forum is better as this may be considered a General Sub- Forum not Q&A Sub-Forum.
Just to remind you :
Never ask a dev for something
Never ask ETA (estimated time pf arrival)
Never spam forums/threads
Write clearly instead of u-you ,2-to
And post threads to appropriate sub-Forums .
Best regards for you .
Sent from my GT-S7500 using xda premium
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haha
true that !!
Unfortunately OP, you have hit the nail right on the head.
There's 9000 levels of wrong all across the fora, and its not just this one I'm talking about. Thanks whoring, begging for donations, colorful developement threads which look more like a 5 year olds crayon book, screenshot layouts which focus on everything except the screenshot, huge signatures which are bigger than the posts that the bearing members do, members reserving posts for reasons which sane people have never understood; oh I could go on and on and on...
At the end of the day, they fail to realize all of ^this^ is rather pointless. We are, after all, part of an educated society. The forum is considered as one of the more technically oriented forums on the Internet. Yet you see people joining here for all the wrong reasons, acting in all the wrong ways.
One can not ban everyone, so instead we rely on common sense to prevail and use it as a measuring tool. We end up hoping that people see the pointlesness of all such activities. That they realize, what we do is because we love to do it, and not because we want virtual thanks, popularity or someone else's money.
If they don't like what they are doing, they shouldn't be doing it at all.
/rant
A.cid
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a.cid said:
Unfortunately OP, you have hit the nail right on the head.
There's 9000 levels of wrong all across the fora, and its not just this one I'm talking about. Thanks whoring, begging for donations, colorful developement threads which look more like a 5 year olds crayon book, screenshot layouts which focus on everything except the screenshot, huge signatures which are bigger than the posts that the bearing members do, members reserving posts for reasons which sane people have never understood; oh I could go on and on and on...
At the end of the day, they fail to realize all of ^this^ is rather pointless. We are, after all, part of an educated society. The forum is considered as one of the more technically oriented forums on the Internet. Yet you see people joining here for all the wrong reasons, acting in all the wrong ways.
One can not ban everyone, so instead we rely on common sense to prevail and use it as a measuring tool. We end up hoping that people see the pointlesness of all such activities. That they realize, what we do is because we love to do it, and not because we want virtual thanks, popularity or someone else's money.
If they don't like what they are doing, they shouldn't be doing it at all.
/rant
A.cid
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^^^someone with right words...
Good
I also think that
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a.cid said:
Unfortunately OP, you have hit the nail right on the head.
There's 9000 levels of wrong all across the fora, and its not just this one I'm talking about. Thanks whoring, begging for donations, colorful developement threads which look more like a 5 year olds crayon book, screenshot layouts which focus on everything except the screenshot, huge signatures which are bigger than the posts that the bearing members do, members reserving posts for reasons which sane people have never understood; oh I could go on and on and on...
At the end of the day, they fail to realize all of ^this^ is rather pointless. We are, after all, part of an educated society. The forum is considered as one of the more technically oriented forums on the Internet. Yet you see people joining here for all the wrong reasons, acting in all the wrong ways.
One can not ban everyone, so instead we rely on common sense to prevail and use it as a measuring tool. We end up hoping that people see the pointlesness of all such activities. That they realize, what we do is because we love to do it, and not because we want virtual thanks, popularity or someone else's money.
If they don't like what they are doing, they shouldn't be doing it at all.
/rant
A.cid
Forum Moderator
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that is a hell of a explanation sir :good:
what we do is because we love to do it :angel: