How bad is the quality control? - HTC One S

I just can't stop shying away from the One S and One X because of all the hardware problems. Namely the chipping and the signal problems and what not.
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Given that I'm having to check batch numbers and serials before I feel comfortable buying the device, and given that I'm pretty sure it's just going to chip anyway, I can say pretty comfortably that the quality control is pretty bad.
So we have:
- Paint chipping
- Home button issues
- Signal complaints
- S3/S4 change (not really their fault)
The whole idea of the One series was they were going to focus on making three awesome phones for three different types on consumer - big and powerful, mid-sized and powerful, small and fast. That ****'s already out the window - they're addicted to making variations and moderations for different carriers as opposed to just sticking to their guns.
Instead of just the HTC One X, S and V, we've got:
- One X AT&T
- One XL
- Evo 4G LTE
- Droid Incredible 4G LTE
- Desire C
- Desire V
- Desire VC
- Desire VT
They freely admitted that their falling profits from last year were due to releasing endless variations of the same phone and not focusing on making a few good ones. Given that the One series has hardware and software problems, and given that they've already announced 9 different phones appart from the "Hero" devices, it's pretty clear that focusing on one line of great phones was lip service.
HTC: quit ****ing around and manufacture your devices up to the same standard of quality before you go back to suckling whatever carrier's offering you a small contract. You're screwing over consumers to chase small term profit as opposed to building brand trust and confidence.

zukŠ° said:
Given that I'm having to check batch numbers and serials before I feel comfortable buying the device, and given that I'm pretty sure it's just going to chip anyway, I can say pretty comfortably that the quality control is pretty bad.
So we have:
- Paint chipping
- Home button issues
- Signal complaints
- S3/S4 change (not really their fault)
The whole idea of the One series was they were going to focus on making three awesome phones for three different types on consumer - big and powerful, mid-sized and powerful, small and fast. That ****'s already out the window - they're addicted to making variations and moderations for different carriers as opposed to just sticking to their guns.
Instead of just the HTC One X, S and V, we've got:
- One X AT&T
- One XL
- Evo 4G LTE
- Droid Incredible 4G LTE
- Desire C
- Desire V
- Desire VC
- Desire VT
They freely admitted that their falling profits from last year were due to releasing endless variations of the same phone and not focusing on making a few good ones. Given that the One series has hardware and software problems, and given that they've already announced 9 different phones appart from the "Hero" devices, it's pretty clear that focusing on one line of great phones was lip service.
HTC: quit ****ing around and manufacture your devices up to the same standard of quality before you go back to suckling whatever carrier's offering you a small contract. You're screwing over consumers to chase small term profit as opposed to building brand trust and confidence.
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God damn...
that list makes we want to abandon ship and buy myself an Xperia S or even an iPhone.

I have to agree I have been using HTC since the G1 my last device being the Sensation I recently upgraded my girls phone to the 1S and I bought a Gnex off play store for me the Sensation is just 1 year old but replaced twice due to dust under screen my girls 1S I already replaced once due to random reboots I couldn't be happier so far with the Gnex although I only had a few Weeks its my 1st Samsung device so a will see how it goes but with the issues I already had with my girls 1S I kinda wish I would have waited for the SG3 for her either way no more upgrades for us I will buy outright for here out
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jmcdonald58 said:
I have to agree I have been using HTC since the G1 my last device being the Sensation I recently upgraded my girls phone to the 1S and I bought a Gnex off play store for me the Sensation is just 1 year old but replaced twice due to dust under screen my girls 1S I already replaced once due to random reboots I couldn't be happier so far with the Gnex although I only had a few Weeks its my 1st Samsung device so a will see how it goes but with the issues I already had with my girls 1S I kinda wish I would have waited for the SG3 for her either way no more upgrades for us I will buy outright for here out
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any peeves for the Gnex? How's the screen?
And u didn't tell us how well the new replacement is working.

Only people who have problems will bother to post about it. So this forum isn't really representative of what the phone's quality is like. The only thing I would be worried about is the chipping (but if you're going through T-Mobile you can only get the one that doesn't chip any way). I haven't had any problems and I'm not that lucky (2 Sensations with dust under screen).

Galaxy nexus having that old CPU in is an instant no
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iArtisan said:
any peeves for the Gnex? How's the screen?
And u didn't tell us how well the new replacement is working.
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Gnex is great screen is clear and responsive slide thru the pages smooth,it beautiful and 4.65 is kinda big for some but I actually prefer the larger screens my only peeve is the storage I get total space of 13.33 on internal and the system takes the rest of the 16g it came with so I rely on dropbox to store all my pictures media and larger files other than that I couldn't be happier..I will add that The 1S only has a little under 10g internal available I guess the has to do with Sense taking up more space
As far as the new replacement goes the phone isn't rebooting anymore but they sent me one with an old baseband of 0.15 I had to run the Ruu to get current to 1.53 and 0.16 baseband still haven't received ota update to 1.84 already contacted t-mobile once because I keep getting wifi calling error ER05"invalid sim card" they managed to update it over the phone yesterday but I got it again tonite after reboot had to toggle airplane mode to get it to work-lock screen froze once on her tonite also had to do a reboot I am pretty sure I will be back at T-Mobile Wednesday its my girls phone I haven't done anything to either one besides set it up for her I did get the ota on the one I returned like I say the last 2 devices from Htc (Sensation/1S) are when I stated experience Quality control issues all the devices before that worked fine
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barmanham said:
Galaxy nexus having that old CPU in is an instant no
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MMM to each there own I have both devices atm and the Gnex is definely what I prefer but don't get me wrong I like Sense just not the quality in the last two devices and I am sure its part HTC and T-mobile I use my phone for daily work calls and messages both provide those basics well Damn but dust under 2 devices and the 1S coming with the issues I have experience so far are leaving a bad taste in my mouth

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Inspire or Atrix?

This is the big question for me. On the one hand I love HTC devices and the screen size (i am a long time HD2 user until I flashed it to death ). On the other hand, it seems like its a rehash of 1 year old technology, with that terrible battery and camera (im using a Captivate and the quality diffefence compared to any HTC device I have used is massive), and the Atrix looks incredible on paper (battery, dual core, peripherals, screen resolution etc). Trouble is, whenever I get a non HTC device, I spend days tryimg to get it to have the look and feel of an HTC device!
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Im the same way. I have a captivated know and will be getting an Inspire. Im really not a fan of Motorola phones. I want either the Inspire or the Infuse. Leaning toward the Inspire in big way tho.
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Yea, I'm going with HTC, they just seem better built and like you said, with my other Android phones I try to make my non HTC to look like htc, lol!
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I love HTC devices too. Even with the older tech and a little bit less in the way of specs, I'd choose the Inspire any day. I'm not a fan of Motorola phones regardless which carrier they've been on. I just haven't had a good one dating all the way back past the razr and up to the first droid. Next, because of the bootloader stuff they did with the Droid X, I imagine they'll try to lock the Atrix down even if they say they're going to work with devs. I love my Aria, no problems at all and it's been a great phone. I kinda see the inspire as a big brother to the Aria which is why I'm going for it as soon as I can.
The Inspire does have its shortcoming but I like AT&T and I like HTC. I'm willing to sacrifice on a few features (battery, CPU, front camera) in order to get what I think is better quality and user experience of an HTC phone. I'm currently still on a Tilt 2 and I will be able to upgrade in May. If at MWC this month nothing better that would hit AT&T this year from HTC is shown then I'll just go with the Inspire.
I'm thinking since the Inspire is being introduced at a lower price than the Atrix then perhaps a purchase at full price for the Inspire with no contract might be worth it in order to save the upgrade credit for something later that might come out toward the end of the year.
I had both in my hand this week, including the Atrix laptop dock. Very nice.
But I think the Inspire seemed more...quality. New Sense interface, great camera controls and efx, 8mp camera with VERY bright dual LED flash. And half the price.
Atrix + Laptop bundle will be $500 on contract. Atrix alone $199
Inspire is $99 on contract.
I'm leaning Inspire
I've had the HTC Inspire 4G in my hands for three days now (be sure to check out some of the videos and blogs posts I've written up already http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940312) and I can say that you will not be disappointed with the Inspire. The unibody aluminum case makes the phone feel solid. I played around with the Atrix at CES last month and was not particularly impressed with the handset's external hardware. Also, the higher resolution screen looked a bit off with the home screen UI and many applications.
I don't know why people keep referring to the Inspire and Thunderbolt as being phones with rehashed technology from last year. Yes, the second generation Snapdragon processor did come out last year, but the first phones to use them only started showing up in late fall. If that's your standard for calling something old, the first devices powered by the NVIDIA Tegra 2 surfaced right around the same time.
The processor in this phone performs nearly 50% better than the 1GHz processor found in the EVO and Nexus One (first generation Snapdragon processors).
The Inspire is a well rounded handset with a good camera, decent batter life, and solid benchmark numbers. No, it will not outperform the Atrix or any other phone with a Tegra 2 processor, but at least you can trust the HTC quality and know that it'll probably get an official Android update somewhere down the road.
I originally wanted the Inspire, then once I saw the specs--I thought about the Atrix as my next phone. But now, I think I'll want the Inspire again.
Honestly, I really like the phone. Specs-wise, next the the Atrix, well--old tech.
Next to the Captivate I have now--more of the same. But I'd pick the Inspire over my Captivate any day of the week.
I'm just waiting until it comes out so I can ring warranty and have them send me one to fiddle around with.
Cyanogen. Enough said. HTC inspire is quality work. Yes not the best internal spec. Atrix looks impressive on paper. But for those of us who live on xda atrix will not do it for us. Inspire has many devs already working on roms themes and kernels. Ands its hspa+ it will be a upgrade from my N1.
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ill be comming to android officialy from the Tilt 2 to inspire. i was wowed by the atrix but after thinking about what my boss has gone through with his droid and what i have seen i think the inspire will be the way to go!
Droppa said:
Im the same way. I have a captivated know and will be getting an Inspire. Im really not a fan of Motorola phones. I want either the Inspire or the Infuse. Leaning toward the Inspire in big way tho.
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I think flash happy people with Captivates should and will lean to the Inspire. Seeing as how hard it has been for the Dev community to cook something up rather than spliced together samsung roms. HTC devices just seem so much easier to dev. I am afraid that if I go to Motorola I will have the same issues. I don't know if it is just more Devs on HTC devices or that they are just that much easier to crack. Seems like the other devices are just harder to get anything good on them.
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I think flash happy people with Captivates should and will lean to the Inspire. Seeing as how hard it has been for the Dev community to cook something up rather than spliced together samsung roms. HTC devices just seem so much easier to dev. I am afraid that if I go to Motorola I will have the same issues. I don't know if it is just more Devs on HTC devices or that they are just that much easier to crack. Seems like the other devices are just harder to get anything good on them.
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I can attest to this. I have had the captivate since a couple weeks after launch and have been yearning for some cyanogenmod love as well as any ui other than touchwiz. It seems like the devs for the captivate have a really hard time doing anything besides splicing cappy leaks together and while I have run some ready quick and efficient roms, I am always checking the htc forums with envy. I am going to get the infuse pending a better htc device coming out at MWD.
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The Inspire is definitely the headsup winner.
Honestly who is really going to use that FrontFacingCamera anyways if it even had it other than make some real time video pron, hahaha
The only question Im asking myself is if there are any 1400mAh or 1500mAh aftermarket batteries that I can swap out after buying it.
1230 mAh is low in comparison to other phones with similar specs
Inspire 4G FTW!
Inspire all the way Atrix is full of hype and no promise. Locked boot, dual cores wont be utilized fully and motoblur is crap
I'm debating between the two as well.
I think what is keeping me from choosing is:
A) continued support from HTC and AT&T, as well as dev support if I wanted it (most likely would, I jailbroke my iphone about two months after I got it)
B) a huge part of the Atrix IS it's docks. I was never interested in them in the first place, just it's specs. So I'd almost be buying half a product
C) build quality! My plastic iphone 3G is literally about to split in half, right where the white plastic and bezel meet. I'm tired of plastic phones.
the Atrix is looking like this: higher res, biometric lock, dual core, RAM, battery
Inspire: Build quality, support, camera (debatable, but still more Megs)
it's not old tech, take a look at the comparisons of the Inspire and the Evo 4G, it's clearly a new device in a similar casing
http://mobile.downloadatoz.com/comparision,htc-inspire-4g-vs-htc-evo-4g-black-sprint.html
I for one look forward to getting mine on (next) Monday. I love my captivate, but I love HTC more.
I have also been wondering if I should leave the captivate and jump to the Atrix or Inspire. I am always one for the latest and greatest so I was leaning towards the Atrix or holding out for another 2 core phone. After reading a lot and browsing these pages I just about want to go for the inspire. Man do I hate decisions!!
After having a Nexus One I'm sold on HTC hardware. I'm going to get the Inspire and love it...at least until HTC releases something better.
However, since I think it will be months before HTC releases another compelling phone on AT&T, I'll be alright with that. The minute you buy technology it's already outdated, and either you can get used to that idea or you can spend exorbitant amounts of money trying to keep up.
I'll get the Inspire for $99 and use the money I save on it (plus the money I get from flipping my Nexus One) to get a tablet this spring. Can't wait for the first HTC Honeycomb tablet!
If Sony Ericsson is saying the Arc is their top tier phone well then the Inspire 4G is really not all that outdated and irrelevant.
Sure its not a dual-core behemoth but from what the early reviewers have said is with the specs it will have when its released, the smartphone is fast and responsive.
Check out my other thread on the similarties to the Arc and other Snapdragon phones and will see that with overclocking, bootloader and rom support this can potentially turn into a dual core beast performace wise.
What can you buy nowadays for $99 anyways, not even a burnt out everyday iPhone or extremely outdated Blackberry.
At least with the Inspire you know right away that potentially all the hard work and Devlopment from the Desire HD thread can be carried over to us.
The Inspire 4G will stay active for a good while in my opinion, I can atest to HTC quality since I still own the phone that started it all the HTC Dream / G1.
This phone has been dropped on concrete, slammed againt walls, thrown around like a bad habit and is still going strong and even have a fast/ stable version of Froyo 2.2.1 with apps2sd enabled and running with zero issues. This phone was only offically updated til 1.6 Donut from HTC and T-Mobile yet the incredible xda community has kept it going and left all who own it satisfied.
That to me is a prime example of what HTC quality, xda support and those out there with the potential to make a good phone great in the Months and Years ahead.
Check out the Samsung and Sony forums those guys are truly regretting their purchases from barely a few months ago while I'm still content from a phone from 2008.
Proof positive that this purchase will be a smart one from whomever takes a chance on it when its released to the public.
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Looking to upgrade from desire s.

Well I was looking for an advice , I don't have anyone else to ask so I come here , hope It's okay.
Anyways , I wanted to upgrade from my ds to a sensation xe or galaxy nexus but I was wondering if it is really worth it..
I love the community here , great devs and etc but a small bar on my screen isn't working and its almost impossible to use the phone :/
Now o have few options , either to upgrade either to fix my phone. I like the fact that we are getting ICS..
Any opinions?
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Both those are already old devices. Best look at a HTC One S if you can live with the 16gb internal memory, or the HTC One X if you want the flagship for 2012.
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What do you mean by a small bar isn't working?
Agree with above comments regarding upgrade.
I'd say fix (especially if it could be done cheaply or even better under warranty) and then consider replacing in six months
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You see , my budget is limited to around 400 , 500 dollars at best. (Selling my device and the regular desire )
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i second wnp_79 advice, the HTC One X with its quad-core processor and 1.5gb ram is the one too look out for.
i think the next best thing for you would be the Nexus or could you wait for the Samung Galaxy s3.
All these new phones coming out, its an exciting time for the Android platform!!!
At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
I would say go for one s its a superb phone had it for 2 hours with me....
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Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
Bewinxed said:
Well i want similar answers, I got an opportunity to upgrade from my Desire S to a Sensation XE for 80$? what do you think? OvO
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Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
What do you mean by "developer phone"?
"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
Do what you're saying is that I should stay with the desire s a bit of more time?
I like sense , especially the 4 lite version but I have no problem with the stock android.
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Jack_R1 said:
Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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dan-fish said:
At $400-$500 the One X is obviously out of his budget. I'm not entirely sure about the One S though.
Samsung and Phones4U are set to be unveiling something on March 30th, just to let you know though.
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Turns out that the store is being refurbished, and Samsung is paying for part of it
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If it's not a problem, and you can fix its screen problem cheaply - yes, I think it'll be better. Unless you really want to spend money - in this case, all the One X/S talk is irrelevant, and your options are Sensation or AT&T Galaxy S2 - pick whichever you like.
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The Nexus S has had nearly every overlay(sense,touchwiz,blur etc) ported to it by swamp goblin so point 2 is invalid
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Buggy like hell, at least the Sense. It's like saying HD2 has every possible ROM ported to it - true, and they were all in semi-functional state since Froyo - so they're worthless. Much like the current ICS ports all around the MSM8x55-based device forums, which are useful only for people that don't use half of their phones' capabilities. But with a small difference - those devices, at least DHD and DS, will get a fully functional ICS, because it'll be officially released for them, while Nexus devices will most likely never get a stable ROM, if I can judge by what happened until now.
Jack_R1 said:
"Developer phone" = the phone of Nexus branding (Nexus One / Nexus S / Galaxy Nexus / something else in the future that will carry "Nexus" in its name). They're made to run pure Android, and are OTA-updated directly from Google, ahead of other phones.
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Aah i see, at first i thought it was a phone for dev only, kinda like for testing purpose. Thank for the info mate.
Arcaneex said:
Damn I want to have this option badly , I would do it ASAP , just me though.
Do you mind sharing how you'll do this? Locally or here on xda?
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Well i put up my Desire S for sale for 270JDs (about 300$?) and someone offered to exchange mine for his for 80$, not a bad thing i'd say, and i've already had it with this phone =.= (not the desire S itself, just the one i have), so i guess it'll be allright, i just need to find the money now hahaha
i'd like a bigger screen, bigger battery, and i'm a sucker for black/red, also them beats headphones ;D;
although the battery drain will go with the hardware, i think it'll be a bit better than my DS
i think galaxy nexus is a good choice
Jack_R1 said:
Several things:
1) There's not enough upgrade in Sensation to justify the money. I played with one (or actually, worked on one - loaded it with ROM and tested, for a friend). Unless all you need is a big screen - Desire S does just about everything, and feels more or less the same.
2) Personally, after a year with Nexus One and plain Android, I wouldn't ever touch "developer phone" again. Wrote it some times before: plain Android sucks badly IMHO, and Sense / TouchWiz have a good reason to exist. You can look at my message history, I noted all the points in which Sense is head and shoulders above AOSP/CM/MIUI. While ALL phones that have overlays can run AOSP/CM/MIUI properly, "developer phones" can't run overlays. So, why limit yourself?
And additional point - user base counts. Galaxy Nexus isn't going to be nearly as popular as the leading "non-developer" devices. And community support lies with popular devices. If you want proof - look at the forums of original Desire, and Desire HD, and compare them with Nexus One forum.
So if you're considering, consider Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S2 HD (the HD version, which is as big as Galaxy Nexus, and with HD screen).
3) Wrote it many times before - HTC One S is actually going to be better than HTC One X, unless they intentionally degrade it to make it worse. The dual-core CPU of One S is much more powerful and less power-hungry than One X's quad-core, and it will be accented even more by lower resolution (so its GPU will be way ahead of One X) and lack of optimization in Android for quad-core usage (which won't allow One X's CPU to even try to match the already-outperforming One S).
A point to consider - AT&T's Galaxy S2 is selling today $100 below its generic equivalent, and AT&T's going to get One X with the same CPU as One S. If it's also going to be priced lower - it might be THE phone worth buying. But it'll most likely happen 1/2 year from now, since when the new models go out - there'll be a huge buzz and the prices will be quite high, out of budget on this thread.
And the upcoming Galaxy S3 can also be a good contender, even though its price will most likely be out of budget too.
So seeing all that, I can suggest - if you have a cheap way of fixing your DS, do it. The "low-cost" One V is not going to up the bar in any way, and Desire S will be relevant for quite some time, probably at least for another year.
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Made for some interesting reading... appreciate the time taken, and agree with the content therein.

2 days left to return

Just found out that the galaxy s3 for the US will have the same CPU as
The one x. It will also come with 2gb of ram, which is a real plus. What would you guys do in this situation. I'm still kind of worried about that pentile screen, have to see it in person but I dont have much time left.
The 3 main criteria for me are screen quality, camera quality and feel of the device. I really dislike the screens on Samsung devices. All things considered, I'd be miserable looking at that display as a trade for questionable improvements in speed. A larger SD card, while a great option, isn't something I really need.
Build quality is also a big deal. I like the feel of the one x more than any other Android device I've handled. The S2 variants left me feeling like I had a bargain phone in hand.
I've heard great things about the camera on the S3, but while I'm still having some trouble in generating the type of shots I'd like with the HOX it's an excellent outdoor shooter.
THE END
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I'd hate to say it, but I'm kind of in the same boat. I was dead set on this phone once Samsung made their announcement (was a toss up between the GNex, the GSIII or the HOX). I figured the awesome dev folks around here would get the phone unlocked so we could eventually run some stock form of ICS (which was a successful bet!). But the issues the phone has (WiFi BS, the lagging in the games, the frustrations with multitasking-esque stuff) are annoying. I was really hoping AT&T would be pushing out their fix soon to address at least the WiFi, but I was hoping for too much I guess. After this phone, I don't think I'll every be buying another subsidized phone again. I'd rather just roll with the Nexus line so I can freely do what I want with the phone.
jspidey said:
I'd hate to say it, but I'm kind of in the same boat. I was dead set on this phone once Samsung made their announcement (was a toss up between the GNex, the GSIII or the HOX). I figured the awesome dev folks around here would get the phone unlocked so we could eventually run some stock form of ICS (which was a successful bet!). But the issues the phone has (WiFi BS, the lagging in the games, the frustrations with multitasking-esque stuff) are annoying. I was really hoping AT&T would be pushing out their fix soon to address at least the WiFi, but I was hoping for too much I guess. After this phone, I don't think I'll every be buying another subsidized phone again. I'd rather just roll with the Nexus line so I can freely do what I want with the phone.
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A lot of the issues with the one x have been fixed with the latest ruu, and some nice tweaks have been made with the few rims we have now. Just wait until we get the kernel source and watch our battery and performance skyrocket. Imo, stick with one x and wait for the goodies to come.
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Thanks for the replies but I think I'm gonna be returning it and see what the Samsung can do. I can always come back to the hox if it fails to impress.
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A lot of the issues with the one x have been fixed with the latest ruu, and some nice tweaks have been made with the few rims we have now. Just wait until we get the kernel source and watch our battery and performance skyrocket. Imo, stick with one x and wait for the goodies to come.
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I have a question...are these goodies you are talking about only going to come to those who are rooted? Is there expected to be an official release that fixes some of the issues I am having? My Wifi radio stinks and the cell radio is less than optimum. However, because I love the screen so much, I'm sticking with my HOX for right now.
I got mine at Wal-Mart for $158, and they told me I had 15 days. I wonder if that is just the window to return it and void the contract extension, or if I'm out of my window entirely? Although there is a lot I love about my HOX, That 2GB of RAM really has me squirming, together with the lockdownedness of the HTC.
ethantarheels123 said:
A lot of the issues with the one x have been fixed with the latest ruu, and some nice tweaks have been made with the few rims we have now. Just wait until we get the kernel source and watch our battery and performance skyrocket. Imo, stick with one x and wait for the goodies to come.
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I have (had? Cuz its broken) a skyrocket and the dev work was really slow at first. Once we got the ICS leak, things got much better.
Also, once more of these get into people hands, it'll take off. I'm hoping to get one tomorrow finally! Using an N1 is starting to get frustrating!
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I guess I lucked out, got my HOX on May 10th from Best Buy with 90 day return policy. So I'll be checking out the GS3 on AT&T when it comes out this month.
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I have a question...are these goodies you are talking about only going to come to those who are rooted? Is there expected to be an official release that fixes some of the issues I am having? My Wifi radio stinks and the cell radio is less than optimum. However, because I love the screen so much, I'm sticking with my HOX for right now.
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The leaked 1.85 RUU has an updated radio, which may help your WiFi and cell reception issues. Its impossible to say for sure, but I'd be willing to bet its only a matter of time before this version (or something even newer) is made available as an official OTA.
After owning the Atrix, which had double the RAM and CPU of the original Galaxy S... I'd rather have a better screen.. Sure the One X has software issues like multitask, but we have root and the unlocked bootloader.. CM9 and other great roms will follow (I hope)... I think I'll be sticking w/ the One X. But if u really need the SD card slot then I guess your choice is already made.
Read the papers from Walmart at&t requires a 30 day window Verizon, and others are 15 from Walmart.
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The hox has better battery but I saw someone mention lag in game and if I think about it, it does lag! How come ?
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keep1n tha one x
I'm keeping mine but I'm known to play craigs list like a day trader. I'm willing to bet there will be people who want to trade their SGS III for the HOX. I'll consider doing this if development on the HOX stagnates. I don't think it will though after all we don't have Source Code yet.
This phone os perfect for me. It fits my hand, it's light but not too light and the battery life is amazing.
Just returned it....now it's just a waiting game. Kinda miss the phone already especially going back to the iphone 4's tiny little screen .The specs on the new iphone should be coming out soon too.
I'm returning mines, the GS3 was just announced. Pre orders start June 6. The one x is a great phone but I prefer the GS3. Bigger screen, removable battery plus a sd card slot.
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The Pentile display killed the SGS3 for me. Don't say "you can't see it" because once you see it, you can't unsee it. It's especially noticeable if you're like me and have been using iPhone 4 and now One X for 2+ years.
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The Pentile display killed the SGS3 for me. Don't say "you can't see it" because once you see it, you can't unsee it. It's especially noticeable if you're like me and have been using iPhone 4 and now One X for 2+ years.
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agreed on the display. with some of the wifi problems i've been having the last couple of weeks, frankly, i want to return it, but i just can't stand the idea of getting an SGS3 with that damn pentile screen and the overall pukey, pseudo-nature 'inspired' (read: playing the marketable environmental/sustainable/green card) theme. i've go ttill tomorrow to convince myself that the risk of my wifi never working properly isn't enough to make me return this thing...
Return the phone, then drive to different ATT store and get a new one for 30 more days

Anyone selling there phone to get SGSIII?

Just checking to see if anyone is selling there Sensation or any other phone to get the GSIII, or just might be buying one and keeping there old phone? I know I been thinking about getting one lately since mobile network is so slow and sometimes I have no signal either . Other than that, I love my Sensation just tired of the hassel with the signal sometimes. Don't know if Im selling my phone or not but I might get one from T-mobile on release date I guess (June 21,2012), haven't heard about the price yet only specs.
Nope i think my sensation will do until the end of my contract which is in february 2013 ... And then ill see the phones available at that time...
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
*their
Anyways, I'm not selling my Sensation, I'll just do an upgrade on one of my lines.
Not buying til there's significant battery improvements
Not worth to change.
Mike
Keeping my Sensation... Not a big fan of Samsung!
Agree with some points - until there is not much improvement in battery life, I'll keep it.
Not just Yet
The Sammy is better phone than the Sensation, but it's not worth an upgrade, maybe if we got the quad core version. besides the HD screen, I'd be interested to see if anyone could name something the Sammy can do that the Sensation can't.
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I'd be interested to see if anyone could name something the Sammy can do that the Sensation can't.
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the Sammy is plastic fantastic!
lol
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Just checking to see if anyone is selling there Sensation or any other phone to get the GSIII, or just might be buying one and keeping there old phone? I know I been thinking about getting one lately since mobile network is so slow and sometimes I have no signal either . Other than that, I love my Sensation just tired of the hassel with the signal sometimes. Don't know if Im selling my phone or not but I might get one from T-mobile on release date I guess (June 21,2012), haven't heard about the price yet only specs.
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I sold my sgsII to buy a sensation.
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I'm not selling my Sensation, still happy with it and haven't started flashing it yet...waiting for a serious problem/delay/crash to start looking into better custom rom.
rio
I love trying new phones an all, but will probably wait a little after release date. Wonder, will it be a major difference in performance compared to the dual version and the quad?
NOPE, keeping my sensation until it's paid off then seeing what Android is available at that time. I'm on payment plan so at least a year. Then I'll look into what's new at that time. I'm really happy with my sensation! Especially due to xda and custom Roms, operating system upgrades, and wonderful forum support! Why ruin a good thing?
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Not getting the first "next gen" phones. Their the first, I'm just waiting to new phones
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I'm waiting on a Motorola nexus quad core. Til then will do!
Even though Google did buy Motorola I doubt that they will be making the hardware for it.
Google already said that they don't want to directly get into the hardware business.
Mainly they just wanted Motorola for their collection of patents.
Either way, (sadly phones are a expensive habbit for me lol), have a sensation, amaze, and one s. Due to the signal fluctuations and problems I have had with that phone I will be selling the one s and getting the GSIII. I will still probably keep the amaze and sensaiton. Mainly the sensation because I have alot of accessories and protection for it for when working on my cars and stuff which I haven't got for the Amaze which just has been a "good" not for work backup. Plus I flash the sensation too much to get rid of that phone.
M9x3mos said:
Even though Google did buy Motorola I doubt that they will be making the hardware for it.
Google already said that they don't want to directly get into the hardware business.
Mainly they just wanted Motorola for their collection of patents.
Either way, (sadly phones are a expensive habbit for me lol), have a sensation, amaze, and one s. Due to the signal fluctuations and problems I have had with that phone I will be selling the one s and getting the GSIII. I will still probably keep the amaze and sensaiton. Mainly the sensation because I have alot of accessories and protection for it for when working on my cars and stuff which I haven't got for the Amaze which just has been a "good" not for work backup. Plus I flash the sensation too much to get rid of that phone.
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They have a bunch of kick ass Verizon droid phones. It's only matter of time until they release a Motorola nexus, which at that point might be quad core. Companies tend to change their mind sooner or later! I had the amaze and in my opinion I enjoy the sensation more.
M9x3mos said:
Even though Google did buy Motorola I doubt that they will be making the hardware for it.
Google already said that they don't want to directly get into the hardware business.
Mainly they just wanted Motorola for their collection of patents.
Either way, (sadly phones are a expensive habbit for me lol), have a sensation, amaze, and one s. Due to the signal fluctuations and problems I have had with that phone I will be selling the one s and getting the GSIII. I will still probably keep the amaze and sensaiton. Mainly the sensation because I have alot of accessories and protection for it for when working on my cars and stuff which I haven't got for the Amaze which just has been a "good" not for work backup. Plus I flash the sensation too much to get rid of that phone.
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It's very possible, there are going to be 5 Nexus devices this year from different manufacturers
I would like to have a quad core handset. One X would have been my preferred choice (love sense) but I need a unit with a removable batt.
SGS3 is one option or maybe the new Huawei Ascend D Quad (http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_ascend_d_quad-4568.php) which is due to surface next month.
I have a feeling Huawei will soon become a major player. They are already a giant company in networking etc.
Nah I'm not a fan of quadcores full stop. My contract expires may next year and so I'm going to compare the octacore beasts there are roaming the jungle at the time. Probably a HTC but we never know maybe a s4 ( I say extremely hopefully ).
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Just wanna share some news about HTC

Well seems like there's still hope for HTC, according to CNET. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57482049-94/why-its-not-doom-and-gloom-for-htc-yet/
And look at this: "According to a survey taken by Sanford Bernstein, 42 percent of HTC customers select the brand for the quality and intuitiveness of its user experience, vs. 32 percent for Samsung, an indication of positive awareness of HTC's differentiated software."
Sense is a STRONG selling point for HTC. So anyone who's been claiming that HTC will sell more if they get stock may be wrong.
But in the meantime http://www.zdnet.com/htc-bites-the-bullet-closes-south-korean-office-7000001779/
What do you guys think about HTC and their current woes? No need to be defensive. Just want to discuss and want people to voice their opinions in case some HTC employees lurk around and see this lol
averygagaanroid said:
But in the meantime http://www.zdnet.com/htc-bites-the-bullet-closes-south-korean-office-7000001779/
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"In comparison, Korean vendors including Samsung, LG and Pantech have secured 90 percent of the market."
Why would they stay in a market where the home town teams control 90% of it? They also closed Brazil because the market for high-end phones their is weak. They got $150MM in cash by selling 1/2 their Beats investment back. These are signs of a company trying to re-focus its efforts. It's better to do fewer things well than 100 things marginally; especially when you're small(er). Like CNet said, there's room for a number three and it could easily be HTC if they get their act together.
Ok i just want to say one thing
HTC is no near as small or as weak financially as these stupid stupid tech articles make it sound
you really think they can afford combating with APPLE on a legal level if they were as tiny as everyone would like to believe?
or do you think they can afford so many innovations in the One Series like the ImageSense chip and the best screen on mobile device out there, if they were falling apart?
anyway if indeed google was blown away with the One X and the next Nexus will be an HTC, problems solved
hamdir said:
anyway if indeed google was blown away with the One X and the next Nexus will be an HTC, problems solved
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Just like the first nexus history does repeat itself...
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Just like the first nexus history does repeat itself...
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i don't know if you meant positive or negative
the nexus one did indeed give HTC a major turbo boost
if you meant it bad well yes i actually don't understand what google found in samsung's build quality, my guess is cheaper cost or "volume"
we still don't know if the next nexus is HTC, with samsung selling like hotcakes, i don't know but we google approached them regarding the Nexus 7 and they refused to make a low cost tablet
I just wish that rumour about multiple Nexus devices is true. I want a Nexus phone but I dont want to get anything Samsung. -.-
And HTC srlsy needs to pull their sh** together w the QC and customer service. I look through all the threads about issues and I wonder why I still am attached to this company.
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And HTC srlsy needs to pull their sh** together w the QC and customer service. I look through all the threads about issues and I wonder why I still am attached to this company.
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QC issues where there because HTC rushed the One X early, now they are mostly gone
HTC's one x launch was pretty much a complete train wreck.
This board and others were/still are littered with many many threads about 'problems'... This forum still is.
I love my OneX as I did my HD2 but from my point of view HTC need to get a grip as their were far too many problems at launch.
Nope I'm not about to jump ship to Samsung but I would certainly not buy another (groundbreaking) HTC phone so soon after launch again.
Plus if this phone doesnt end up with some reasonable way of acheiving root access I'll never buy another HTC device again.
Slim
audioslim said:
HTC's one x launch was pretty much a complete train wreck.
This board and others were/still are littered with many many threads about 'problems'... This forum still is.
I love my OneX as I did my HD2 but from my point of view HTC need to get a grip as their were far too many problems at launch.
Nope I'm not about to jump ship to Samsung but I would certainly not buy another (groundbreaking) HTC phone so soon after launch again.
Plus if this phone doesnt end up with some reasonable way of acheiving root access I'll never buy another HTC device again.
Slim
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S-Off is coming don't worry
and i agree never buy a flagship on launch
but this is not related to HTC only mate
Barry shipped me an N7 to Lebanon and it was a one way ticket for me, i was holding my breath all this time, because the QC issues of the N7 a Google product, are actually double times the One X launch issues
go check the Nexus 7 boards and while at it go check the sg3 boards, you will forgive HTC a little better
The Xperia S had its share too
QC issues are disturbing and relates to all these devices nowadays, especially screen glue problems, think it has to do with the high volume and increasingly aggressive competition, has nothing to do with brands
i choose htc because unlocking is easy
samsung phones are complicated as f**k
odin , usb jig and shat like that
hamdir said:
S-Off is coming don't worry
and i agree never buy a flagship on launch
but this is not related to HTC only mate
Barry shipped me an N7 to Lebanon and it was a one way ticket for me, i was holding my breath all this time, because the QC issues of the N7 a Google product, are actually double times the One X launch issues
go check the Nexus 7 boards and while at it go check the sg3 boards, you will forgive HTC a little better
The Xperia S had its share too
QC issues are disturbing and relates to all these devices nowadays, especially screen glue problems, think it has to do with the high volume and increasingly aggressive competition, has nothing to do with brands
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All true i although just had a blind faith in htc wrongly. Still love my hox and dont have any issues now except ropey WiFi signal but on the qa side htc need to improve
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I just want to say I'm a huge fan of HTC for years (they never let me down before, they have very good service!)
and I do love my HTC One X. :laugh::good:
No scratches, wifi problems, camera, battery, headphone problems, screen leak problems, orrrrrr.... 'whatever', my HTC One X rocks!
The small issues with software (multitasking, 3 dots, battery overheating) reported do not bother me at all, they are small and will be fixed with future updates.
Yesssss... I'm probably one of the 'very rare' lucky guys I know but I realy am. :victory:
I'm realy looking forward to Jelly Bean, it will have issues as well I'm sure about that but that's why we have HTC and XDA-Developers.
It will get fixed and updated.
hamdir said:
Ok i just want to say one thing
HTC is no near as small or as weak financially as these stupid stupid tech articles make it sound
you really think they can afford combating with APPLE on a legal level if they were as tiny as everyone would like to believe?
or do you think they can afford so many innovations in the One Series like the ImageSense chip and the best screen on mobile device out there, if they were falling apart?
anyway if indeed google was blown away with the One X and the next Nexus will be an HTC, problems solved
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HTC doesnt manufacturer those screens. I think they are just kinda similar to Apple in the sense that they basically just assemble phones from components supplied by other companies. The only things HTC can take pride in are Sense and the design.
hamdir said:
i don't know if you meant positive or negative
the nexus one did indeed give HTC a major turbo boost
if you meant it bad well yes i actually don't understand what google found in samsung's build quality, my guess is cheaper cost or "volume"
we still don't know if the next nexus is HTC, with samsung selling like hotcakes, i don't know but we google approached them regarding the Nexus 7 and they refused to make a low cost tablet
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It's very likely Google will release multiple Nexus devices because in that case they will be able to let Motorola make Nexus phones w/out looking like they're being biased. But if it's only one version it's very likely that Samsung will get it again since Samsung is a major supplier of many components for smartphone. Imagine the Nexus phones uses the Snapdragon s4 processor and Qualcomm cant meet supply it's gonna be a mess.
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HTC doesnt manufacturer those screens. I think they are just kinda similar to Apple in the sense that they basically just assemble phones from components supplied by other companies. The only things HTC can take pride in are Sense and the design.
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well they can pride themselves for customizing such an amazing amazing screen
nothing matches this screen
averygagaanroid said:
It's very likely Google will release multiple Nexus devices because in that case they will be able to let Motorola make Nexus phones w/out looking like they're being biased. But if it's only one version it's very likely that Samsung will get it again since Samsung is a major supplier of many components for smartphone. Imagine the Nexus phones uses the Snapdragon s4 processor and Qualcomm cant meet supply it's gonna be a mess.
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Google cares only for numbers. They don't care who will make the device as long as it's cheap and sells. Why did they went for the lower 7" tablet market? Because they can sell more units than 350$ 10" version. And in their case more units = more people for targeted ads. Though I admit I like the idea of having Motorola's Nexus (Motorola is maybe the only OEM that can match HTC in terms of build quality), I have the feeling that Google will get rid of Motorola long before that. The other part of the nexus story is marketing. And no Android OEM can match Samsung in that department. Many people still believe amoleds are superior to lcds. Like Apple made them believe that they invented smartphones, tablets, videocalling, touchscreen phones, etc. A lie that's repeated a thousand times becomes the truth. So at the end of the day if you want to have a cheap mediocre device with good marketing to make people believe it's great, the only OEM you can turn to is Samsung. Galaxy Nexus is the pure example of that. It has mediocre CPU, a pentile screen with messed up colors that looks like s#it, but it sells. Why? Because it's cheap and people believe Samsung can make good phones.
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Google cares only for numbers. They don't care who will make the device as long as it's cheap and sells. Why did they went for the lower 7" tablet market? Because they can sell more units than 350$ 10" version. And in their case more units = more people for targeted ads. Though I admit I like the idea of having Motorola's Nexus (Motorola is maybe the only OEM that can match HTC in terms of build quality), I have the feeling that Google will get rid of Motorola long before that. The other part of the nexus story is marketing. And no Android OEM can match Samsung in that department. Many people still believe amoleds are superior to lcds. Like Apple made them believe that they invented smartphones, tablets, videocalling, touchscreen phones, etc. A lie that's repeated a thousand times becomes the truth. So at the end of the day if you want to have a cheap mediocre device with good marketing to make people believe it's great, the only OEM you can turn to is Samsung. Galaxy Nexus is the pure example of that. It has mediocre CPU, a pentile screen with messed up colors that looks like s#it, but it sells. Why? Because it's cheap and people believe Samsung can make good phones.
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well said, thank you!
Is this thread sponsored by HTC?
I recently filled in a satisfaction survey and now they've tried to call me twice in two days.
Perhaps it was my mention of their illegal warranty policy?
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Oh, it could have also been the mention of their CEO's lies regarding opening up their phones.
f4flake said:
Is this thread sponsored by HTC?
I recently filled in a satisfaction survey and now they've tried to call me twice in two days.
Perhaps it was my mention of their illegal warranty policy?
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Oh, it could have also been the mention of their CEO's lies regarding opening up their phones.
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Take off your tin foil hat and answer the phone. Then you'll KNOW why they are calling you instead of making wild guesses on a thread clearly sponsored by HTC, the government and the Switzerland's navy.
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