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Goodbye Unlimited Data

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/19/verizon-finally-killing-unlimited-data-plans-this-summer/
On the positive side, We will get the iPhone 5 the same time as AT&T...

What isnt clear to me from the article...
Will existing users be forced into a tiered plan, or allowed to remain on their existing plan?
Knowing VZW, I wont be shocked if we're all herded to some crappy capped plan.

As long as you don't sign a new contract or change anything with your data plan you should be good. They really can't just change your plan without your permission.
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Not if you never leave it... Grandfather clause.
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what if i get a new phone after two years? have to agree to the new speed limit terms?

This sucks...I was hoping they would change their minds and keep an unlimited plan.
It was the reason I left AT&T after 10+ years.... because I could keep my unlimited data while switching carriers.
I'll be with Verizon as long as I'm grandfathered but will leave if they take it away.

micromania said:
what if i get a new phone after two years? have to agree to the new speed limit terms?
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As long as your plan doesn't change you're good. Only other way (by law) is in case of a straight buy out of Verizon. (IE... T-Mobile/AT&T).
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This lowers their price right
400 MB?

What if I buy my next phone outright, can I stay grandfathered? (I have estimated that buying it outright may be more cost-effective versus a tiered plan.)

nerozehl said:
What if I buy my next phone outright, can I stay grandfathered? (I have estimated that buying it outright may be more cost-effective versus a tiered plan.)
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I would assume yes. This is what I did on AT&T and I kept my original plan. You just have to make sure any rep that ever accesses your account doesn't accidentally remove the unlimited plan because once it's gone the option to add it gets removed from the system. At that point it becomes a real ***** to get it added back and requires the carrier's highest level of tech support to get it added back.

nerozehl said:
What if I buy my next phone outright, can I stay grandfathered? (I have estimated that buying it outright may be more cost-effective versus a tiered plan.)
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You can get your phone however you want... As long as you keep your plan, you are Grandfathered.
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DroidTh3ory said:
You can get your phone however you want... As long as you keep your plan, you are Grandfathered.
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As long as you already have an unlimited 4G plan. Moving from unlimited 3g to unlimited 4G required me to change my plan, so when Verizon moves to limited plans, I'll bet you'll be stuck with either keeping your unlimited 3g or moving to a limited 4G plan.
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If you have the Thunderbolt, but your primary area doesn't have 4G, are you still on a 4G plan? I only get 4G when travelling on business.

nerozehl said:
If you have the Thunderbolt, but your primary area doesn't have 4G, are you still on a 4G plan? I only get 4G when travelling on business.
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Yeah, I think once you get a 4G device you're required to get the 4G plan ...

What 4G plan? My bill with a tbolt is exactly the same as before.

This makes me sad... but we saw it coming.

Could I buy a thunderbolt now for the unlimited 4G then upgrade my phone next year and maintain the unlimited plan? If so I might as well buy one now. I'm on the 1400minute $10 data Unlimited data/txt family plan I don't want to lose it. Could I buy the Thunderbolt to get a 4G plan and return it?

gdi2290 said:
Could I buy a thunderbolt now for the unlimited 4G then upgrade my phone next year and maintain the unlimited plan? If so I might as well buy one now. I'm on the 1400minute $10 data Unlimited data/txt family plan I don't want to lose it. Could I buy the Thunderbolt to get a 4G plan and return it?
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Only the Verizon higher-ups can answer that. There's been no word on if/how they'll grandfather. As for the latter question, you'll go back to whatever you had if you return the phone. Technically there's no differentiation between 3G and 4G plans at least on the user facing side. They may have a different feature code or something on their end but right now it's the same email/web for smartphone that the 3G devices have. That makes a real gray area and no one really knows if you're good until you upgrade or beyond or if it'll kick you to tiered if you simply purchase a phone off-contract and try to activate it.

If they change your plan mid contract you can generally get out with no ETF.

mrzood said:
If they change your plan mid contract you can generally get out with no ETF.
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so i heard. Somebody up that Verizon contract so I can save it on my cpu just incase they try to up my unlimited data plan

[Q] Keeping grandfathered unlimited data

So I call AT&T before ordering on amazon, and the rep tells me that I'll be able to call back and switch my data plan to the "5GB Unlimited." I inquire as to how the plan works, she says that if I go over 5GB, I get charged, because it is not unlimited. But then she confirmed that I'll be keeping the grandfathered data plan.
Is this consistent with what other people are getting? Just want to make sure I'm not screwing myself over. Thanks!

It is not called 5GB unlimited. It is LTE unlimited and you will never be charged for overage. What happens is you will be throttled (300k to 500k speed) when you use over 5GB.
You will have to call AT&T to switch back to your unlimited plan after you received your phone from Amazon.

You will probably want to follow up with AT&T after you get your phone to make sure you are actually keeping your grandfathered unlimited plan and that you have not actually been switched over to the 5GB plan.

I had to convince the at&t rep when ordering over the phone that I should have unlimited grandfathered plan.
It is always worth checking to make sure they didn't take it away from you.

While on the phone and on web chat, I asked this specifically with radioshack rep several times that i want to keep my grandfathered unlimited data and they say yes it will be possible. I told them why on my receipt it shows mt dataplan got switched to the 5gb+tether for $50, they said this is only for initial processing, but after approval, everything will go back to the way it was. I made sure to get them to confirm this before I purchased and after i purchased haha.
We will see if this is still the case when I finally get my phone. If not, sucks I might have to cancel and return the phone. unlimited data is pretty valuable especially when you get to go all the way up to 5GB before being throttled in LTE.

When I placed my pre-order through AT&T, I specifically had the option to add the "LTE Unlimited Personal" data package. I was pretty tempted by RadioShack offering it at $50. But given all I read about them farqing things up for pretty much everybody they sell things to, I paid the whole $200 through AT&T. I am willing to pay extra to make sure nobody screws up my unlimited data plan. But that's just me.

I kept my smartphone unlimited plan. AT&T had no problem letting me keep my plan

Keeping my unlimited data plan is the sole reason I always upgrade through ATT. Sure the Radio Shack and Amazon prices are always lower but I never fully trust that ATT will put unlimited data back after I get the phone...

snvyas said:
Keeping my unlimited data plan is the sole reason I always upgrade through ATT. Sure the Radio Shack and Amazon prices are always lower but I never fully trust that ATT will put unlimited data back after I get the phone...
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Agreed. Spending more in the store is worth it to me rather than running the chance of losing the unlimited data plan.

SR4 said:
Agreed. Spending more in the store is worth it to me rather than running the chance of losing the unlimited data plan.
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Even if somehow they screw your data plan up. You can always get your unlimited data plan back. As long as you can:
-Prove that you've had it
-Say that it was changed without your knowledge / consent.
I cannot add them back in the store. You will have to call 611 to get it added back to your account if it was messed up by some other retailer. It's always worth checking your account online to make sure. Or dial *3282#. That will tell you what data plan you currently have.
The type of data connection doesn't matter either. If you are just now moving to your first LTE device, the amount of data you are allowed to transfer before the throttle increases to 5gb from 3gb. The cost is the same and it is still unlimited. Meaning no overage costs.
If you have any specific questions or if customer service gives you any trouble. Please message me and I can help resolve it.

My contract just ended and I have the $30 unlimited data grandfathered. I've always been able to keep it when upgrading by speaking to customer service. But this time I don't want to upgrade for another 2yr contract. I've been a customer forever and would like to have the freedom of no contract for a little bit. I'm currently using a 3g samsung captivate but want to get the s3. I found a really good deal on craigslist. Will at&t let me keep unlimited data without upgrading? I'm just worried that they tell me yes when I call, then after I buy the phone they say no you gotta upgrade. That would suck..

Just swap the sim card into the new phone.
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hugebulge said:
Just swap the sim card into the new phone.
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I believe the GS3 is a MicroSIM, and the Captivate is a "regular" SIM. So the person can get a MicroSIM from AT&T. If you call for one, I think they charge you $15. But in store, they will often give it to you for free to AT&T account holders.
You can also cut the SIM to make it work, using guides online. But its probably easier to just get a free new one from the store.
jsmizzle said:
My contract just ended and I have the $30 unlimited data grandfathered. I've always been able to keep it when upgrading by speaking to customer service. But this time I don't want to upgrade for another 2yr contract. I've been a customer forever and would like to have the freedom of no contract for a little bit. I'm currently using a 3g samsung captivate but want to get the s3. I found a really good deal on craigslist. Will at&t let me keep unlimited data without upgrading? I'm just worried that they tell me yes when I call, then after I buy the phone they say no you gotta upgrade. That would suck..
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Dont' worry, they can't make you upgrade, you can use whatever hardware you want (as long as its compatible with their network).
If you don't presently have LTE on your account, and the phone you are buying is compatible with AT&T's LTE bands, you can get it added to your account w/o an upgrade and w/o a new contract. But you have to go through AT&T to do it (either by phone or in an AT&T store). Simply tell them you want to keep unlimited data, and add LTE. They technically have to change you to a "new" data plan that is unlimited data with LTE, but its really just the same - unlimited data, but with LTE capability added and no extra fee (its just what they do to make it work in their system). Just make sure they do it right before you leave the store or hangup the phone. Its not completely straightforward, it took them about 15 minutes to get it right for me at my AT&T store, and the rep had to bring the manager into it, and they were really trying. But its worth the hassle, since if they screw it up and take unlimited data off your account, its a real pain to add it back.
And this is the only way to add LTE to your account, if the S3 you are buying has LTE.

Thanks guys for the replies. Apparently, the LTE microSIM is different from the 3g microSIM. Even though they're the same size the coding is different. So i'm gonna need to visit the store to get the LTE card. AT&T customer service did tell me that my unlimited data won't change and I won't need to upgrade. So that's cool.. Now it's about choosing which phone to get. I'm still thinking the S3 but I just looked at the demo models at best buy. Damn this is hard. The one x is a beauty and even the atrix hd looks great too. I might just wait until the iphone 5 release on the 12th so all the other phone prices will drop. But that's a whole different thread..

[Q] Req. to change plan.

I got a call from my local target store, they informed me my phone was in [its sunday ] however when I went in everything checked out fine. But the guy handling my transfer to my new phone showed me, ATT is requiring me to drop my unli data "grandfathered" plan and swap to the highest data plan they have. Now I could care less, Its like 5gbs or whatever. I maybe hit 2 [maybe] when tethering for a month. BUT. I'd rather pay the 20-30$ I do now for unlimited data then more or less, for limited data. They simply wouldn't allow me to move on. Im guessing its because There hasn't been 4G in my area [i give it 10 years till ATT considers getting full 3G here, first] but they are requiring me to upgrade [downgrade in my opinion] my plan to one of their data-set plans. Now I hate the idea that when I "upgrade" my phone, I have to change my plan. And basically, I refuse to lose my unlimited data to any better mobile phone than mine currently. I call shenanigans.
soo.... My question is [i believe i saw a thread here before but couldn't find it], Can I call ATT and find a reliable rep who will ensure my account keeps its unlimited data, am i screwed by swapping to this newer phone?.
For some background, 4/7/11 Is when I hopped on this railroad of funness. And my data plan is; Smart Choice Data - originating from Alltel USA (state, Montana).
Any and all help/advice would be nice. I'd rather not go for something less than I had my eyes set on.
&& If theres already a post about this [that i couldn't find] please direct me to it :]

Yes I'm on the one x with unlimited data. It can be done don't listen to their crap non sense
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How did that work out with you? Did you have them activate the sim in store or no? Because to get specific; I upgraded my phone to keep my plan. Im going from a sim card [fitting in the xperia 10] which doesn't have 4G/LTE.
I thought for sure they'd have to handle it there to extend my plan, but I didnt think they have to activate my SIM card there.

I'm on it too...
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If your data plan is truely grandfathered in, you get to keep it when you upgrade. However, typically it can be done only via AT&T's own retail or online sites. 3rd party retailers like Target doesn't have the access to keep your unlimited data plan but some know how to keep it somehow.

call att to reinstate it

expertzero1 said:
call att to reinstate it
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This. Just say it was removed without your consent or knowledge.

Or just buy the phone from a sales rep over the phone. If you're out of contract and say you'd really like a better price, they have a table of prices they're allowed to offer based on how long you've been with them and your FAN# (if applicable). Definitely cheaper than 200.
Oh, and they won't change your plan around that way.
sassafras

Call at&t and tell them what's going on they told me it would be added back in when I called. The system was jacked up and would not let me activate it so they had to manually activate it which took it away. I will see this week if they can add it back in. If not I will no longer be an att customer.
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sassafras_ said:
Or just buy the phone from a sales rep over the phone. If you're out of contract and say you'd really like a better price, they have a table of prices they're allowed to offer based on how long you've been with them and your FAN# (if applicable). Definitely cheaper than 200.
Oh, and they won't change your plan around that way.
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I pre-ordered it through targets electronic section. So at the time it was 150 [50$ preorder] then 100 when it came in. However the sticker price said 179, AND the rep in store [was new there] told me Its going to be even cheaper than that pre-order price. I'll just call tomorrow when I go in there from one of their phones and sit on the phone with them [hopefully] while my info gets transferred over so they can change it asap.

I usually do my data changes over the phone then call back to confirm. This time best buy did it for me, I just kept confirming that I had best buy and that it will remain untouched...
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I have the unlimited data plan too. I just picked up my one x today at the att store. They switched it over no problem. My advice is go to your local att store and ask to have your plan unlimited plan reactivated or call.
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Alright, so to anyone who might care [mod can close this now] I called AT&T and the guy I talked to said he'll put in a case for me saying I need my unli-data grandfathered over and they'll call me later this evening after they know i've picked up the phone [to verify I actually got it] and it'll get switched back. The guy also said pick whatever data plan they give me because it can all be changed.
So that worked out. .

Kept my Unlimted Data

Upgraded my S3 today to a S4 and I was still able to keep my Unlimited Data, thanks to the clever workings of the rep at Costco.
Since I still have a regular line on my account, he was able to do some switching around with the lines and keep my data plan intact
According to him Costco does what they can do to keep the customer happy.
BestBuy and Verizon could not do anything for me.

Pico said:
Upgraded my S3 today to a S4 and I was still able to keep my Unlimited Data, thanks to the clever workings of the rep at Costco.
Since I still have a regular line on my account, he was able to do some switching around with the lines and keep my data plan intact
According to him Costco does what they can do to keep the customer happy.
BestBuy and Verizon could not do anything for me.
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Just curious, did you have more than one line to begin with, and were you still in contract (if so, how long was left)? When upgrading time comes around I don't want to lose my unlimited either.

That makes sense... Costco is a retailer, so if they want to sell you the device @ a discounted price, they can... and from the sounds of things, WILL. Costco will do anything for members and this sounds like a rad deal!
You'll never get that kind of deal from VZ directly. I have unlimited too and bought my S3 of ebay to avoid losing my data.

Shhhh!!! And its very possible to do this directly through Verizon if you take the self service route.
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MartyMacGyver said:
Just curious, did you have more than one line to begin with, and were you still in contract (if so, how long was left)? When upgrading time comes around I don't want to lose my unlimited either.
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I have 2 data lines and one non data (regular phone) on my account, that is how costco was able to keep my data intact. without the reg line I dont think they would of been able to keep the data unlimited.
Not sure how much time I had on my contract

So I have an none smart phone on my plan that is eligible for an upgrade. If I upgrade my phone with that to keep unlimited data do I have to keep the none smart phone on my data plan and pay the extra $9. Our can I take it off after I upgrade mine with it to keep unlimited.
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mosfet356 said:
So I have an none smart phone on my plan that is eligible for an upgrade. If I upgrade my phone with that to keep unlimited data do I have to keep the none smart phone on my data plan and pay the extra $9. Our can I take it off after I upgrade mine with it to keep unlimited.
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If you renew your contract in any way shape or form you will lose your unlimited data.
An upgrade means you can sign a contract to get a phone subsidized. An upgrade is not a courtesy or a freebie, the word is misleading. An upgrade eligibility simply means Verizon or whatever carrier will let you sign a contract to get a phone on subsidy. Use it and the unlimited goes away.
The only way to maintain unlimited data is to not alter your contracted terms. If you sign a new contract it'll go bye bye.
The only ways to get a new phone without losing your unlimited data is to acquire a phone without putting your line with unlimited in contract. There are many ways to do this, none of which I spell out in detail.
If you search ebay you can purchase unlimited data for around $150-200 off people selling it.

It greatly depends on where you go. I recently found a great third party Verizon retailer with a system which still allows people to keep unlimited data. I believe it has to do with the insurance they go through. Corporate and Best Buy go through assurion which absolutely cannot in any shape or form allow you to keep unlimited data.
Other systems do have workarounds and some people are willing to oblige. Just recently I let my brother use my upgrade (my line is unlimited, his is tiered) but every location I asked said it was impossible for him to take my upgrade and let me keep my unlimited data. Well, here I am now still rocking unlimited data with a 2 year contract extension.
The third party location I found was great to us and even offered to help my mom keep unlimited data using a subsidized upgrade using a "musical phones" method.
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If you renew your contract in any way shape or form you will lose your unlimited data.
An upgrade means you can sign a contract to get a phone subsidized. An upgrade is not a courtesy or a freebie, the word is misleading. An upgrade eligibility simply means Verizon or whatever carrier will let you sign a contract to get a phone on subsidy. Use it and the unlimited goes away.
The only way to maintain unlimited data is to not alter your contracted terms. If you sign a new contract it'll go bye bye.
The only ways to get a new phone without losing your unlimited data is to acquire a phone without putting your line with unlimited in contract. There are many ways to do this, none of which I spell out in detail.
If you search ebay you can purchase unlimited data for around $150-200 off people selling it.
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That's simply not true as long as you don't take the upgrade on the number that has the unlimited data you can upgrade on any of the others that don't and it does not affect the unlimited line at all

scottguest11 said:
That's simply not true as long as you don't take the upgrade on the number that has the unlimited data you can upgrade on any of the others that don't and it does not affect the unlimited line at all
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The most basic way, of which I have personally used myself, is to have a basic phone attached to your [insert service provider here] service contract. Whenever you have an upgrade for your smartphone line, swap it to the basic phone, then upgrade through that "dumb" phone. Once you receive the new smartphone, activate it on your smartphone account, and reactivate the basic phone on its original line. Voila.
Edit: I am sure there are other methods which may be more effective (not have to pay for a secondary basic phone), however this one has worked for me (and others). Your call as to how you will proceed...

Don't forget the new $30 upgrade fee on Verizon.
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scottguest11 said:
That's simply not true as long as you don't take the upgrade on the number that has the unlimited data you can upgrade on any of the others that don't and it does not affect the unlimited line at all
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You're 100% correct!

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That's simply not true as long as you don't take the upgrade on the number that has the unlimited data you can upgrade on any of the others that don't and it does not affect the unlimited line at all
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Correct. I went into detail with a manager at a VZ store once and he told me you can change anything on your account, like minutes or text, which will not affect your unlimited data. Once you upgrade your phone and get that subsidized price, you lose the data and go on a new 'share everything' package.
You can, however, transfer an account/number to someone and they'll keep unlimited data... so if you have an extra line on your account with unlimited data, you can sign a release of liability over to that person and they will have the line/account exactly as it was on your account, because you're just moving the line from one owner to another. I did this in June with my ex.
Maybe that's what the people on eBay are doing... it's shifty and I'd try to avoid it, though.

This can also work through verizon.
Just talked to a clerk online and told her exactly what I wanted to do and she helped me through the whole process. All you need to do is switch your upgrade to another line with data, renew their contract by buying the phone, from there you can either chose pick up phone in-store or have them ship it to you. Once you get it just activate the phone on your line and your good to go.

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That's simply not true as long as you don't take the upgrade on the number that has the unlimited data you can upgrade on any of the others that don't and it does not affect the unlimited line at all
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I can attest to this. Just upgraded my wifes phone today. I have unlimited data and she does not. We went to the Verizon store and they kept the plan the same.

What we did was use the upgrade on another line and then just swap the sim cards when we got home and it worked fine.

I used the upgrade on a dumb phone on my account. When I get the S4 Can I just put my SIM card in it and activate it without having to call Verizon again?

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What we did was use the upgrade on another line and then just swap the sim cards when we got home and it worked fine.
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Verizon has sim cards?
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This wouldn't really make sense to someone who doesn't already have a spare data line.. Regardless your still paying for 2 lines, if you cancel there is a hefty fee that goes with it.. If you don't already have a spare data line itd be a better idea just to buy a phone at retail price.. Wouldn't it?
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4g phones do.
And we have separate lines because we're on a family plan.

Another Unlimited Data Question

Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
2. Find a retailer that would work things around and keep my UDP. (Found a guy, verizonchris, on a different site that said he could do this for me most likely, but he needs my billing password. Naturally, Im reluctant to give it out)
3. Transfer upgrade on myverizon, go to a store and get a upgrade voucher for motomaker, then upgrade through motomaker and it will keep my UDP.
I've heard of some others, as I'm sure you guys have, and am really just looking for some sort of verification for this from some smart peeps!
(Sidenote, I'm also going to claim the S3 on Asurion. Does anyone know what Asurion is giving people for broken vzw S3's? Heard a few different things, maybe an upgrade through that would be possible?)
Thanks!

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Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
2. Find a retailer that would work things around and keep my UDP. (Found a guy, verizonchris, on a different site that said he could do this for me most likely, but he needs my billing password. Naturally, Im reluctant to give it out)
3. Transfer upgrade on myverizon, go to a store and get a upgrade voucher for motomaker, then upgrade through motomaker and it will keep my UDP.
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4. Buy the Moto X outright and pop your SIM in.

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4. Buy the Moto X outright and pop your SIM in.
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Thanks, trying to avoid that.

Sounds like you may be overthinking this, or something has changed that I'm not aware of.
You can't do anything with the upgrade available on your unlimited line. If you do, this will most likely reset your line to tiered data.
The upgrade would need to be on the dumb phone line.
You would upgrade that dumb phone's line to the phone you want.
When the phone comes, call up Verizon and activate the new phone on your line.
Double check with Verizon that the data plan will not activate on the dumb phone's line.
Enjoy your new phone with unlimited data! Too bad the person who uses that dumb phone won't have an upgrade for another couple years.

If other lines on the account have upgrades available all you will need to do is update using one of the other updates. The line yoy used for the upgrade will now have a 2gb plan but you don't activate with that line. Just put your SIM in and you will still have your UNLIMITED DATA. Hope this helped.
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MetalMan2 said:
You can't do anything with the upgrade available on your unlimited line. If you do, this will most likely reset your line to tiered data.
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The 'new every two' was discontinued 2 years ago. The reason you get a new subsidized phone price is because you're re-entering into a contract with verizon... so it's like it's a new contract/line. You don't have credits and there's nothing to transfer, but if your contract is up, you can get the 'new' price. Unless you have unlimited data... you do that and they'll move you to a 'share everything' plan.
I've been told Costco will generally eat the cost of the phone, just to sell you one at the 'new' price and get the credit for your business. You keep the unlimited data and Verizon thinks you paid full retail. I can't confirm that plan will work for you, but many here have said that's worked for them.
Personally, I'm in the EDGE program. Pay $16-30/month more for a new device, keep my unlimited data and every 12 months, get to pick a new device. Yes, you're paying $200-360 for the phone, but A- that's not much more than the 'new' price', B- you get to keep unlimited data, C- you get a new phone every 1 year, rather than 2 years with re-entering a contract and D- you were probably going to pay that much for a phone off eBay anyway if you have unlimited data. Dunno if that makes sense for someone with so many lines, but if you keep it to 1-2 lines and really need that data (like I do), then it makes perfect fiscal sense.

beepea206 said:
The 'new every two' was discontinued 2 years ago. The reason you get a new subsidized phone price is because you're re-entering into a contract with verizon... so it's like it's a new contract/line. You don't have credits and there's nothing to transfer, but if your contract is up, you can get the 'new' price. Unless you have unlimited data... you do that and they'll move you to a 'share everything' plan.
I've been told Costco will generally eat the cost of the phone, just to sell you one at the 'new' price and get the credit for your business. You keep the unlimited data and Verizon thinks you paid full retail. I can't confirm that plan will work for you, but many here have said that's worked for them.
Personally, I'm in the EDGE program. Pay $16-30/month more for a new device, keep my unlimited data and every 12 months, get to pick a new device. Yes, you're paying $200-360 for the phone, but A- that's not much more than the 'new' price', B- you get to keep unlimited data, C- you get a new phone every 1 year, rather than 2 years with re-entering a contract and D- you were probably going to pay that much for a phone off eBay anyway if you have unlimited data. Dunno if that makes sense for someone with so many lines, but if you keep it to 1-2 lines and really need that data (like I do), then it makes perfect fiscal sense.
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Thanks, I may look into that if I run out of options.
Has anyone ever heard of this working? Seems like a HUGE loophole if it really works.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...nlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html

blueice5249 said:
Has anyone ever heard of this working? Seems like a HUGE loophole if it really works.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...nlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html
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That's a huge flaw in Best Buy's system if it works. Because the purchase of the new phone requires a re-entry into contract and VZ specifically has blocks on subsidized phone prices on grandfathered data plans. Not even GMs in Verizon stores can override it... I've tried.
So basically, you're placing a 3rd party order and because Best Buy can't send you a live sim card (only VZ can), you swap it for your current one and VZ is never the wiser. Clever, but tread lightly and quickly.. I can't imagine this flaw will remain open for long.

blueice5249 said:
Broke my S3, and would like to upgrade to the Moto X. Unfortunately, I have the unlimited data upgrade. Our family plan has 5 lines. 1 unlimited smart, 1 tiered smart, and 3 dumb phones. I've searched and heard NUMEROUS stories on how to keep unlimited data, and read comments from people about how none of those work. I figured the XDA folks may be a bit more knowledgeable than some other forums, so I'm trying my hand here. I've heard a few different ways to do it:
1. Transfer my upgrade through myverizon to a dumb line and then upgrade. (Verizon alone has given me about 4 different answers on if this would void my UDP)
Thanks!
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I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.

buhohitr said:
I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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Ive done this twice as well. I went to the store and did this. They understood what I was doing too. They didn't care. They thought it was smart. Just transfer the upgrade to a dumbline and then upgrade. Then have them activate it under ur unlimited line.
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buhohitr said:
I have done this many times. If the upgrade is on your unlimited data plane line, log into VZ website and transfer it to the tiered smart line. When you phone arrived, call VZ and activate on your unlimited data line.
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Just a quick update for everyone:
I couldn't update because of my talk plan. Since I claimed my broken screen through Asurion, I talked them into making a "one-time" exception and sending me a brand new S4 instead of another S3.
I'm selling the S4 and buying a Moto X. They told me they're in and out of them. I convinced them to send me a new S4 (as a "one time" exception because of my great history).
Im going to sell the S4 and buy a Moto X.
I already convinced Motorola to send me a free case and $50 off coupon. Awesome deal! :victory::victory:
Suck it Verizon!
UNLIMITED FOREVER!! :laugh::highfive:

blueice5249 said:
Just a quick update for everyone:
I couldn't update because of my talk plan. Since I claimed my broken screen through Asurion, I talked them into making a "one-time" exception and sending me a brand new S4 instead of another S3.
I'm selling the S4 and buying a Moto X. They told me they're in and out of them. I convinced them to send me a new S4 (as a "one time" exception because of my great history).
Im going to sell the S4 and buy a Moto X.
I already convinced Motorola to send me a free case and $50 off coupon. Awesome deal! :victory::victory:
Suck it Verizon!
UNLIMITED FOREVER!! :laugh::highfive:
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Nice move! I'm jealous!
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buhohitr said:
Nice move! I'm jealous!
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Now you'll be really jealous. Since they have that $100 off sale Monday, I conned free Royal Blue earbuds and the anti-glare film out of them! I'm still gonna call back Monday to see what they're doing for the people who just ordered them too lol