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Trying to get a record of texts off of my phone for a court case. I have it hooked up t USB but cant seem to find where they are located on the phone. I woulf forward to email but need timestamp. Any help GREATLY appreciated!!!!!
investmore said:
Trying to get a record of texts off of my phone for a court case. I have it hooked up t USB but cant seem to find where they are located on the phone. I woulf forward to email but need timestamp. Any help GREATLY appreciated!!!!!
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good luck on that one bud - u do realize you're asking assistance in tampering with what sounds like, evidence.
*find his way out*
really??
not tampering. need to get them from my phone to print out so I can take it to the judge.
Legal side apart, I don't think you can. I'm not sure of anything that dumps them. Try googling for "android text dump", or looking around the forums.
please read...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235789
and you shouldnt need them off your phone if the judge needs them i know from personal experience that they dont need you to get them for them
jdubb1106 said:
please read...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235789
and you shouldnt need them off your phone if the judge needs them i know from personal experience that they dont need you to get them for them
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Why does he need to read that? He only reposted cause he originally posted it in the wrong thread. And maybe he did search but had no luck. I've never seen this topic in any thread.
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Did a google search for "Android sms location"
First link:
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f4/data-file-storage-location-for-sms-messages-23299/
http://www.google.com/search?q=android+sms+location
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Did a dump of the file and found out that it's in sqlite format. Find an sqlite database viewer and you'll be able to see it.
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Open the .db file with
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sql...0 beta1/sqlitebrowser_200_b1_win.zip/download
Click on the browse data tab
Under the Table dropdown, pick SMS
File > Export > Table as CSV file
Open the file in Excel, now you can print
I recommend you delete the columns that aren't necessary.
well then lenny you dont read either because one it is in general section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240679
2 this is border line illegal...do you want to take someones word that there not tampering with evidence?
3 i know this from personal experience when i was younger my girlfriend was molested by her stepfather she told me this in a text she didnt want anyone to know, and she trusted me... but me being me i could not hold on to this information so i contacted the police, they supenad(dont know how to spell) for my txt records and got them...long story short if the court system needs them they dont need your help getting them
jdubb1106 said:
well then lenny you dont read either because one it is in general section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240679
2 this is border line illegal...do you want to take someones word that there not tampering with evidence?
3 i know this from personal experience when i was younger my girlfriend was molested by her stepfather she told me this in a text she didnt want anyone to know, and she trusted me... but me being me i could not hold on to this information so i contacted the police, they supenad(dont know how to spell) for my txt records and got them...long story short if the court system needs them they dont need your help getting them
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I did read. It was originally posted in general section but that was the wrong section so he posted it here. We have people to watch the forums to make sure stuff gets posted in the right section and who make up the rules they are called moderators. And if he wanted to tamper with evidence I'm sure all he would have to do is install a different rom.
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yes and moderators cant always be everywhere so its up to us to also help with the tidying of our forum...
lenny i hate to be blunt i dont need your opinion
p.s. if this is to be deleted or me kicked go ahead, just very tired of "ignorant" people
jdubb1106 said:
yes and moderators cant always be everywhere so its up to us to also help with the tidying of our forum...
lenny i hate to be blunt i dont need your opinion...**** off
p.s. if this is to be deleted or me kicked go ahead, just very tired of "ignorant" people
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My point is your nobody on this forum to be posting rules. It would be crazy if everyone acted like you and took it upon themselves to post rules. And how am I ignorant?
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jdubb1106 said:
yes and moderators cant always be everywhere so its up to us to also help with the tidying of our forum...
lenny i hate to be blunt i dont need your opinion...**** off
p.s. if this is to be deleted or me kicked go ahead, just very tired of "ignorant" people
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Also I'm pretty sure each phone has it's own moderator.
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dont worry lenny this is my last post on this topic done arguing with you
im done contributin to the delinquency of a ****ing idiot
jdubb1106 said:
dont worry lenny this is my last post on this topic done arguing with you
im done contributin to the delinquency of a ****ing idiot
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Damn I got excited when I read this is my last post. I was hoping you were leaving this forum. And is name calling really necessary. Do you honestly think it would be ok for all the other members to start posting rules they think we should follow. How would this forum be then?
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Just use a screen capture app to screen cap the sms thread and email it to yourself and then print out. It will have the sms and the time stamp
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These aren't my rules their the rules nobody seems to ****in read.
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i agree that people dont read. search. listen. and when they dont get the answer they are looking for, they get upset, but lets just let this one go for now.
No need to curse now dude. It's a cell phone forum, calm down. If you're angry because he didn't read the rules then just simply don't respond. If someone has an answer to his question then they'll respond.
If you truly have a problem with it, PM a mod, let them deal with it. Doesn't help when you cause an argument.
HTC Glacier running MIUI
Are you guys bumping the thread again with arguments? Just drop it, we haven't even heard back from the guy yet.
Lolz
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Ok, it's pretty sad that the SGS4G forum has the issues that is does. I have another phone and have been in it's XDA forum as well, to see that people in there aren't as lazy and stupid as some are in this forum. They actually READ the OP, search for answers to their questions before posting them and when they cannot find the answers, then they post to the forum in the appropriate spots with logcat (if available) included! Amazing isn't it... This is why we have lost DEVs. STUPIDITY!
Did you know (and I speak form experience) that if you do not read and follow an OP on how to flash a ROM you could end up with:
1) A bricked phone (super hard bricked too... meaning, NON RECOVERABLE!)
2) A trashed sim card (yeah, I know it isn't that abd, but it is still a pain in the ass to call and deal with customer support to order a new one and then go to the store to pick it up or skip the call and go down to your service provider and pay up to 35 bucks for a new one... that can get pricey after just a few "I do what I want" flash mistakes.
3) A bad flash resulting in an unstable unusable ROM. And then when you decide to flash it correctly, you have lost that time...forever... Oh, and let's not forget the time and space you wasted on here asking the same question 300 other dummies already asked.
There are so many BAD possibilities that could result in not following directions. Didn't your momma teach you to follow directions? There was a reason for it! Plus, didn't your daddy teach you to help yourself first, and then when you had exhausted all options, ask for help?
Granted, I have made these same mistakes before. But I have learned. But there just seems to be SOOOOOOO many of you that just don't get it! To the point that I have actually seen some one ask the a question by quoting the post that contained the answer! That is purely STUPID!
Is this a flame? You damn right it is! But I am not only here to vent my frustrations out on you, but to help you.
Read the rules aka The Ten Commandments, they are simple and easy to follow (I will make a pictorial upon request):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310270
If you are Noob, which means you have never, or only done it once or twice, flashed a ROM, theme, etc, here is a great link for you to ask many of your questions:
Universal Question Solver
Now before you post in the DEV section assuming you have trolled and spam other forums, use this link to guide you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979109
Read the ENTIRE OP for christs sake!
After all that is done, like maybe 10-20 minutes of your time then post a thread IN THE APPROPRIATE SECTION, or reply to a thread with your questions or issues WITH A LOGCAT! Oh, and it doesn't have to be the entire logcat, just the part that pertains to your issue. If you do not know how to read your logcat, you can always post it for free, after registering, here:
pastebin.com
Please guys, FOR THE LOVE OF OUR PHONES, lets try to lay nicely and by the rules...
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Ok, it's pretty sad that the SGS4G forum has the issues that is does. I have another phone and have been in it's XDA forum as well, to see that people in there aren't as lazy and stupid as some are in this forum. They actually READ the OP, search for answers to their questions before posting them and when they cannot find the answers, then they post to the forum in the appropriate spots with logcat (if available) included! Amazing isn't it... This is why we have lost DEVs. STUPIDITY!
Did you know (and I speak form experience) that if you do not read and follow an OP on how to flash a ROM you could end up with:
1) A bricked phone (super hard bricked too... meaning, NON RECOVERABLE!)
2) A trashed sim card (yeah, I know it isn't that abd, but it is still a pain in the ass to call and deal with customer support to order a new one and then go to the store to pick it up or skip the call and go down to your service provider and pay up to 35 bucks for a new one... that can get pricey after just a few "I do what I want" flash mistakes.
3) A bad flash resulting in an unstable unusable ROM. And then when you decide to flash it correctly, you have lost that time...forever... Oh, and let's not forget the time and space you wasted on here asking the same question 300 other dummies already asked.
There are so many BAD possibilities that could result in not following directions. Didn't your momma teach you to follow directions? There was a reason for it! Plus, didn't your daddy teach you to help yourself first, and then when you had exhausted all options, ask for help?
Granted, I have made these same mistakes before. But I have learned. But there just seems to be SOOOOOOO many of you that just don't get it! To the point that I have actually seen some one ask the a question by quoting the post that contained the answer! That is purely STUPID!
Is this a flame? You damn right it is! But I am not only here to vent my frustrations out on you, but to help you.
Read the rules aka The Ten Commandments, they are simple and easy to follow (I will make a pictorial upon request):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310270
If you are Noob, which means you have never, or only done it once or twice, flashed a ROM, theme, etc, here is a great link for you to ask many of your questions:
Universal Question Solver
Now before you post in the DEV section assuming you have trolled and spam other forums, use this link to guide you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979109
Read the ENTIRE OP for christs sake!
After all that is done, like maybe 10-20 minutes of your time then post a thread IN THE APPROPRIATE SECTION, or reply to a thread with your questions or issues WITH A LOGCAT! Oh, and it doesn't have to be the entire logcat, just the part that pertains to your issue. If you do not know how to read your logcat, you can always post it for free, after registering, here:
pastebin.com
Please guys, FOR THE LOVE OF OUR PHONES, lets try to lay nicely and by the rules...
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Nice
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20030358
This has been my homework lately. I think it would help the community to read the same thing. Although it may not really matter. As the warden in Cool Hand Luke so eloquently said, "Some men you just can't reach." I'm also going to try and learn how to read the darn things so I can try to help out even further. But since I'm not terribly familiar with Linux commands it may take a little while.
Thread bump. And sorry dude but the world needs more bass
http://notreble.com
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Jules is it necessary to quote long post? Really?
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thomas
I here you. It's been done before. People just don't get it. Vent away though.
Jules
What lumin said. A simple nice would have sufficed.
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Thread bump. And sorry dude but the world needs more bass
http://notreble.com
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Thank you Bassmanjames... For being the prime example of the f**king jackasses that I am talking about. What the hell does a site about bass guitars adn crap have to do with anything I said. I am glad I put this up... We shall call this training for dumbies like you!
And to give you and the rest of your clan a little insight... I use to be totally against the flame... But now I see why it happens... Go troll on crackberry or something...
Jules
I trully believe you have good intentions and you want to become this phone dev, but you write too much, quote too much and generally flud all the threads.
I don't think it helps you on the long run. If you want to be a dev - read, search, then read and search and if you really have to, post a private message, otherwise you seem like a noob calling yourself a dev in progress.
Read the 'how to decompile an apk' in the modding forum and all the 'how to make a custom ROM' general forum threads, download root explorer for the trial and error and notepad++ for the updater script and make a productive contribution to the community.
Good luck.
Sent from me
Just want to throw out there that as bad as this forum may seem, its a hella lot better than some.
I got so sick of the g2x forums I flamed someone (which I make a point to avoid doing) and came back to this phone! (course the main reason is cause this is just a superior device in every way)
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SMH. This is what gives XDA a bad name.
+1 Thomas
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well you sure do have a point - 10x for that.
Hopefully people will read and internalize it.
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Thank you Bassmanjames... For being the prime example of the f**king jackasses that I am talking about. What the hell does a site about bass guitars adn crap have to do with anything I said. I am glad I put this up... We shall call this training for dumbies like you!
And to give you and the rest of your clan a little insight... I use to be totally against the flame... But now I see why it happens... Go troll on crackberry or something...
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LOL glad i could help. Your welcome everyone needs to vent once in a while. I have already participated in many general threads about this topic and in accordance with the rules why did you start another? It is sad that the general populous can't search or feels so entitled they don't think they should have to; but, such is life sir, as you can see.
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The forum is a great tool...
but posting in the wrong forum can ruin it :-(
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Lol nice there thomas. Also, I agree about quoting long posts. I use to cut them just to let the people know what I'm answering or just mention @username and write. Also, no need for signatures or wether you are sending the post from xda premium or free or whatever phone.
In my opinion, this forum sucks because of little moderation by those who can. Threads and posts need to be deleted every now and then. I have made a ticket with xda regarding this but they told me to use the report button... bah. We all have to admit than sometimes threads get to the 1000's post and its difficult to keep track of every post so one has to ask same question because of the useless crap posted and I understand doesn't have an option.
Anyway, if I got to be a noob or a disturbing person... sorry, not my intention as I use to read more than post. If I flamed you... well you probably deserved it and I'm not sorry. I hope this forum gets some massive clean up one day and to see everything organized.
At the end of the day a forum is used to post... and people will post what they want even if its crap like what I just wrote in this post. Lol
chris31jct said:
At the end of the day a forum is used to post... and people will post what they want even if its crap like what I just wrote in this post. Lol
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+1000 man!
Take note how I cut down the quote peeps. I left just the meat and potatoes... In the army, we have what is called the K.I.S.S. method...
Keep
It
Simple
Stupid
I still think that this forum needs more Operatives or Moderator watching out for the forum...
too bad there is only one
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Also, no need for signatures or wether you are sending the post from xda premium or free or whatever phone.
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It just keeps piling on, pretty soon someone will say there's no need for posting actual posts.
BTW, if you're going to suggest there's no need for signatures, please remove yours
Yes, I'm being sarcastic, but I think some of this is getting out of hand, one extreme to another. From little policing, by those that should, to over policing by those who re self-appointed, Vigilante's as it were.
There are moderators, there are tools to be used for reporting specific threads or posts in case they are overlooked.
Use those tools enough and the PTB's will start paying more attention to this forum maybe, and keeping it a bit more cleaned up.
Our mod seems to have a lot of other forums to police as well... so maybe we can end up with one who has more time to keep an eye on this place.
Core618 said:
It just keeps piling on, pretty soon someone will say there's no need for posting actual posts.
BTW, if you're going to suggest there's no need for signatures, please remove yours
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I mean the signature from the phone "Sent from T959 using Xda..." you know... not the one here. My bad.
Anyway I stated that people can and will post whatever they want, either be a good post or one ready to get flame. I was just saying my opinion. No offense intended.
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I mean the signature from the phone "Sent from T959 using Xda..." you know... not the one here. My bad.
Anyway I stated that people can and will post whatever they want, either be a good post or one ready to get flame. I was just saying my opinion. No offense intended.
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None taken, it's extremely hard to offend me anyway.
The XDA app and Tapatalk both add that little signature line by default. It's a single line and takes up less space than most other signatures (my own included, although I did drop my graphic at least)
And yea, people will be people, no matter what the rest of us say or do we're going to continue to see peeps that don't bother to search, they just want someone to spoonfeed them.
They are the same people who, after reading app and/or rom descriptions install/flash and then complain it's not what they expected, and they want this/that/or the other added to it, or removed from it, and they want it now.
Mostly this is because the whole world revolves around them, and these devs are here solely to provide them with everything, for free, without complaint, in a timely manner (timely being instantly!)
No matter how many posts are made referencing the proper way to do things, these same people will ignore them, because they know that the rules don't apply to them, those rules are for the 'other people', the ones the world doesn't revolve around.
So I use my own rules in regards to those wonderful folks. I flag/report the trolls, point out threads that need removed, help those that seem truly lost, yet not demanding, point others to the door.
The mods do respond, usually pretty quickly, to reported threads and posts. They just seem to stealth in and handle it.
I made use of it last night for a thread, when I got up this morning, the thread was gone.
Looks like we can stop checking 2 forums for progress on ICS. X is giving up on the Skyrocket after he bricked his phone a second time and Samsung won't fix it for him. Hopefully another seasoned developer will assist jomeister15 in his efforts to get us ICS before AT&T's expected release this fall.
artiemon said:
Looks like we can stop checking 2 forums for progress on ICS. X is giving up on the Skyrocket after he bricked his phone a second time and Samsung won't fix it for him. Hopefully another seasoned developer will assist jomeister15 in his efforts to get us ICS before AT&T's expected release this fall.
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Why do you guys keeping making all kinds of threads and posts about him? They are just gonna be closed like all the rest. Who cares about him?
I didn't post an opinion, just news.
He can always PAY this guy to fix it.
JTAG Brick Repair
artiemon said:
I didn't post an opinion, just news.
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Cool, it's already out on other threads though.
Yeah has he tried a jtag method?
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No love for the SADrocket......
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in before the posts celebrating the failure of a dev to get aosp ICS to our phone.
edit. I was too late before I posted someone already had posted "haha " over him bricking on another thread.
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in before the posts celebrating the failure of a dev to get aosp ICS to our phone.
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Not sure if I understand your post, but ya I really hope that people don't start dumping on him!! He tried, and that's much more than almost all of the rest of us.... Hell, we wouldn't even know where to start!!
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Unless you want this thread to get locked, do not mention or talk about he who shall not be named.
Worth mentioning is that ____ said on his site that the rom is open for kanging. We need some devs to pick that up!!!
(but be careful, apparently it bricks phones right now...)
skrambled said:
Unless you want this thread to get locked, do not mention or talk about he who shall not be named.
Worth mentioning is that ____ said on his site that the rom is open for kanging. We need some devs to pick that up!!!
(but be careful, apparently it bricks phones right now...)
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What, are people five years old? Or do they think that this is hogwarts??? Xboarder56 did a lot of work! So it didn't work out... This time. But his efforts should still be appreciated!
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shaggyskunk said:
What, are people five years old? Or do they think that this is hogwarts??? Xboarder56 did a lot of work! So it didn't work out... This time. But his efforts should still be appreciated!
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His efforts are appreciated. You may not have noticed but every thread that has come up with his name in it in the past couple of weeks has gotten locked and/or deleted. And Jay specifically said in no uncertain terms in the last one NOT to start any more threads on X.
I'm just saying that the more important news for us right now is that X said the rom is open for kanging...
Kang away someone I'm dying here
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Jesus there's haters everywhere xboarder is a great Dev he put in alot if time to try to make this happen. I applaud Xboarder for trying his hardest and being dedicated hopefully someone could pick up where he left off.
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evocalante said:
Jesus there's haters everywhere xboarder is a great Dev he put in alot if time to try to make this happen. I applaud Xboarder for trying his hardest and being dedicated hopefully someone could pick up where he left off.
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Who the hell is hating?! Jay (one of the most prominent mods of this forum), said NO MORE THREADS ON X-BOARDER. And he didn't say it in a nice way. I can't even link to it because the thread is deleted. And it's likely this one will be too.
I'm thankful for the work X did and I hope someone can make something great out of Evervolv.
Pretending something, or someone doesn't exist is not far removed from burning all the books. As far as I recall, the rules of the forum include things like ; don't make personal attacks, don't make racist, bigoted, hateful comments, don't do/say things that are moraly & legally questionable etc. We're not talking about praising some genocidal maniac here! It would be a damning indictment for this forum, should it be decided to obliterate an individual's time & efforts.... Because why, he ticked some people off?
This would fly in the very face of the whole concept of 'open source " spirit of cooperation, and I have every faith in the good judgment of this forum's moderators to not let petty differences stifle creativity & free thought and speech.
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shaggyskunk said:
Pretending something, or someone doesn't exist is not far removed from burning all the books. As far as I recall, the rules of the forum include things like ; don't make personal attacks, don't make racist, bigoted, hateful comments, don't do/say things that are moraly & legally questionable etc. We're not talking about praising some genocidal maniac here! It would be a damning indictment for this forum, should it be decided to obliterate an individual's time & efforts.... Because why, he ticked some people off?
This would fly in the very face of the whole concept of 'open source " spirit of cooperation, and I have every faith in the good judgment of this forum's moderators to not let petty differences stifle creativity & free thought and speech.
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I agree 100%. Only posted my comments in the hopes of keeping this thread alive and not deleted like all the rest.
I regret opening this thread. It was in hopes of continuing the effort, not about the individual.
Mod, feel free to delete!
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artiemon said:
I regret opening this thread. It was in hopes of continuing the effort, not about the individual.
Mod, feel free to delete!
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It's not about an individual, it's about a philosophy.
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wow how did this all get so messed up(of course I know how) but I hope something decent can come from this mess, at the very least we don't allow a situation to evolve this way again. I have faith in a better resolution in future misunderstandings.
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I love XDA. I learned how to root my first phone and continue to find my ROMs and mods here. I couldn't imagine owning an android without this place. When I first started my rooting experience, I wouldn't have made it without the community here. However, with that being said, I took a lot of flack asking questions in the wrong section or asking questions that were TOO simple. I still see it. Continuously. Worse than before. So, to you, those of whom I speak, I send a msg.
Stop being know-it-alls and dicks and ass holes! YOUR NOT COOL! Talking all big and smart on a forum? Where you'll never see or have physical contact with those you pick on? Yea, there ya go....... Maybe you are cool.......... Hmm? No, your not.
I know this post will go unheeded and I'm sure ill receive the flack myself. I usually just ignore the negativity but I saw a post earlier that really bothered me. I can only imagine the difficulty in keeping this place friendly and my own post may go against my msg, but it had to be said.
P.S. Hey dicks, stop being dicks.
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I'm not trying to be classified as one of the people which you're speaking about, but it is annoying to see things that obviously are in the wrong section. Example, this thread's title is a question, so it should be in the Q&A section.
Another thing is when users ask questions when it has been discussed many times before and they did not use the search feature.
Bottom-line, it's annoying. That's why some people get rude.
EDIT: Now this is my view and opinion on the subject you brought up, don't get angry and start slurring hateful things just because someone sees things differently than you.
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Its the phone I guess. I never saw that many jerks on all the other forums I visited in the past.
Pathetic...
Opinions are great. They are a must. I have no problem with them whatsoever. How they are expressed though, that is what is a problem. Your edit seemed designed to try and bring out anger and slurs. It usually does.
Lol, my point exactly! Which area is correct? You think q&a, I think general fits best. The subject heading is in the form of a question, but this is more of a general discussion. Thats my intent anyway. Again, its opinion and how its expressed is what's important. Also, is it a big enough deal to make a fuss over, or is just someone looking to be mean.
A new user wouldn't be accustomed to the layout and the strict demands of some users. Thats what I consider understandable ignorance.
The comment that got to me was in the SG3 forum. Although I check out the Nexus, Rezound and skyrocket forums often and see the same thing.
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Crooke356 said:
Opinions are great. They are a must. I have no problem with them whatsoever. How they are expressed though, that is what is a problem. Lol, my point exactly! Which area is correct? You think q&a, I think general fits best. Again, its opinion and how its presented. Also, is a big enough deal to make a fuss over, or is just someone looking to be mean.
The comment that got to me was in the SG3 forum. Although I check out the Nexus, Rezound and skyrocket forums often and see the same thing.
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Despite the general topic, it should be in the Q&A because it is being shown as a question.
Also, some people are just like that. You know how people get behind a screen. I do agree though, a lot of users on hear feel as if because they're knowledgable in something they act as if they're on a higher level than others. That's not right, and is unfair for those just trying to get help and learn. Instead that person is hit with flaming from all directions by tech hipsters.
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Your right. I know I'm being naive, but I'm hoping that by posting this, some might see it and take it easy.
The rude things I said, were in the hope that I could draw the angry posters in here and then turn them on to calm discussion. Again, naive, I know. But id like to come on here and read through the posts instead of going straight to the links for my downloads.
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I'm looking through the general thread and although the topics may not be in the form of a question, the actual discussions are.
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Crooke356 said:
I'm looking through the general thread and although the topics may not be in the form of a question, the actual discussions are.
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Sorry, what I was explaining before was specific to your thread.
You are correct though, if the content within the thread is a question, it should be in the Q&A.
I think most users that post questions in the General section are new, and don't know their way around. Anytime I see a question, I promptly tell them there is a Q&A section, the try to help.
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What gets me is when people say "sorry if this has been asked but I searched everywhere and couldn't find an answer" when they clearly didn't do a search. Especially when their question is such a common one that it was asked and answered in 4 other threads that day. As someone who spends a lot of time on xda, and a lot of time going out of my way to answer questions for people, I find it very annoying and borderline insulting. Don't lie and say you searched when I know you didnt. This is generally the only time I will reply in a snarky manner.
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What gets me is when people say "sorry if this has been asked but I searched everywhere and couldn't find an answer" when they clearly didn't do a search. Especially when their question is such a common one that it was asked and answered in 4 other threads that day. As someone who spends a lot of time on xda, and a lot of time going out of my way to answer questions for people, I find it very annoying and borderline insulting. Don't lie and say you searched when I know you didnt. This is generally the only time I will reply in a snarky manner.
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That's a great point with which I agree.
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This issue comes from people coming here thinking it is a support forum when it is far from that. This is a development forum which means you ARE expected to put in the time to research issues before posting. This seldom happens and people get flamed. While I don't allow people to go off on new people I don't overly blame them. When i joined XDA I knew better then asking a question before I spent at least 2 hours searching and reading. If I did I was flamed to the high heavens and made to feel like I didn't belong. Which of course I didn't. Not until I learned what a development forum was all about.
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'I couldn't imagine owning an android without this place'
Couldn't agree more.
Mods can move threads and people can use the search function, so everyone can contribute to easing this issue.
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What gets me is when people say "sorry if this has been asked but I searched everywhere and couldn't find an answer" when they clearly didn't do a search. Especially when their question is such a common one that it was asked and answered in 4 other threads that day. As someone who spends a lot of time on xda, and a lot of time going out of my way to answer questions for people, I find it very annoying and borderline insulting. Don't lie and say you searched when I know you didnt. This is generally the only time I will reply in a snarky manner.
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Just ignore the question then your not required to answer ..if u have nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all ..but I do know how you feel ..either way I still just politely answer their question because if I was in their shoes I'd want someone responding to me politely ..its a forum not a YouTube comment section lol
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Whats pretty odd/annoying is that there always a "I BRICKED MY PHONE!!!!" thread here on General at least once a week. Whats even more annoying is that most of the OP's have common phones (Galaxy series, HTC's and so on) that there is a 90% chance that it has a device forum, Mine doesnt have one, so I havent rooted it yet, But even with these people, I still love XDA forums! (even if im probably the only one that likes Apple)
People here seem to be barely suppressing buttfrustration. Let the butthurt flow through you.
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agree with both sides of the discussion.
however IMO, if you end up replying to a thread saying:
" noob, use the search feature man!!" or "-devs please move/lock thread"
the effort you spent typing out that ****, you could have simply answered the OP's question/help or whatever, am i wrong?
sometimes i see a question from a newbie that basically can be answered in 1 or 2 sentences but instead all i see is "use the search-feature, omg what a noob. do you not see the search button? devs lock thread plz".
yeah i understand if the OP could be trolling and or his post is tl;dr but to reject/flame even the simplest of things is absurd IMO.
Sometimes people do search but get no results.
At least if you're posting using tapatalk that is, have also had this problem using the website interface, as the search feature for xda often has days where it just returns no results and I have to try searching xda using google.
So it is possible some people genuinely did search and yet find nothing and so they post and risk getting picked on for doing so.
However I've only had problems at xda from die hard fanboys (of all platforms), in general most people at xda are very helpful and most rudeness comes from people who think they are superior and forget they were not always so well versed in the use of their preferred platform.
Those who want to be obnoxious will always be that way, but then if you're using a forum you have to expect idiots and not let them get to you so much.
At the end of the day it's just an idiot being big behind a screen and a username to boost their sense of superiority, it's sad they feel the need to do so but those that do will carry on regardless so all that can be done is to see them for who they are and not let them get to you.
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KayxGee1 said:
Despite the general topic, it should be in the Q&A because it is being shown as a question.
Also, some people are just like that. You know how people get behind a screen. I do agree though, a lot of users on hear feel as if because they're knowledgable in something they act as if they're on a higher level than others. That's not right, and is unfair for those just trying to get help and learn. Instead that person is hit with flaming from all directions by tech hipsters.
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I do not agree with this one bit. Just because a topic has a question mark, it does not belong in Q&A. Q&A is for topics that the user genuinely needs an answer, not for a topic that has no definitive answer and is meant to spark conversation.
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I do not agree with this one bit. Just because a topic has a question mark, it does not belong in Q&A. Q&A is for topics that the user genuinely needs an answer, not for a topic that has no definitive answer and is meant to spark conversation.
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From what I see, the two main questions are always asked in the General section.
1. What phone should I get?
2. Can someone help me with this device?
Those are flat out questions. Even though some maybe have a more broad spectrum of answers that can become a general conversation, it is still a question, regardless of how simplistic the question is.
EDIT: That's just my view I guess. You have a point though, and some topic do start general conversations.
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guys I need you opinion , im my way to get new a gadjet but i doubt to choose between this 3 device..
No one can decide this for you. People are naturally just going to tell you to get what they find more appealing, and what's important to them. Your priorities will probably differ though, so you need to analyze what's important to you and then learn about each device, then make a decision.
They all have their strengths and their weaknesses.
If you're not sure what to buy, this is the place to ask:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
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Just don't go for Xperia... HTC and S4 are far better
No one can choose for you. Anyway,you should choose depend on your taste. You like to hear music? Or what? And decide the phone.
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There are two places where you can post questions like this one. In the device comparison thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229761 and in the device suggestion thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
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