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I am getting absolutely horrible battery life on my MT4G. I took it off the charger at 9:30am, I have since made one 5 min phone call and sent maybe 5 texts, and checked a couple emails that i just deleted, other then that screen has been off the whole time, its now 4:40 and im at 35% battery. On my Vibrant with this sort of use I would still be in the 70s.
Under accounts and sync:
facebook updating every hr (just changed it to every 4 hrs)
google syncing just gmail, no contacts or calender
news every 4 hrs
stocks not syncing
t-mobile syncing (tried turning off but it just turns itself on again)
qik video chat syncing
weather every 3 hrs
yahoo syncing
Are you on wifi or 3g? Brightness? Screen timeout? I have an N1 and the battery life is pretty poor so I'm just curious apples to apples in terms of what else you have turned on.
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Are you on wifi or 3g? Brightness? Screen timeout? I have an N1 and the battery life is pretty poor so I'm just curious apples to apples in terms of what else you have turned on.
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I leave 3g on but i always left it on on the vibrant as well, brightness is at 20%, screen times out within a couple seconds
wifi, gps and bluetooth off
I get great battery life. Then again I am coming from a Vibrant, my battery was horrible on that device. I take it off the charger at around 8 am and by 6 pm I still have 50%
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ever thought about turning off 4G? You don't alway have to have it on.
I get around 12-15 hours with heavy usage. My G2 usually gets 15-24 hours.
I saw this article the other day. I was thinking about trying it tomorrow.
http://androidspin.com/2010/11/06/double-your-battery-life-on-htc-droid-incredible-sprint-evo-google-nexus-one-and-possibly-others/
Don't bother with that battery charger hack, it's not going to do anything but waste your time...
I just installed SetCPU on my phone just for fun and have found that it recognizes a few lower clock cycles...I added a profile to lower the CPU when the screen is off otherwise at 1024-245 On Demand and I'm still plugging away at 20% battery when I would normaly be on the charger by now...could be a fluke, but so far so good...I'll keep this for a few days to see how it does.
oh, one other note, my battery life has continued to improve with every charge...the first few days I couldn't get through a full day and now I have battrey to spare...just had to get it conditioned with a few charges I guess.
I let the phone completely die last night and then charged it and at midnight I unplugged it. At 8:30 this morning when I left for work it was at 94% which was great but from 8:30 until now it has dropped to 83% and ive had one 3 min phone call and deleted some text messages, no browsing web, no listening to music, nothing. It seems like the phone will go through the 100-95% slowly but after that its in a marathon to get to 0%
I don't know how you guys are getting so many hours daily on heavy use. I get 7-8 hours on heavy texting, some web browsing and about an hour plus on the phone almost every night. 9 hours would stretch it and it would be on 10%.
I have my brightness all the way down and all the way down is just 11. Screen times out in 2 minutes and I have power saving on. I did the battery thing 3 times where I would let it go down to less then 14% or so then charge it fully without taking it off charge. Hopefully it improves as days go by, I'm just tired of carrying my charger to work.
myTouch4G (Glacier)
Down to 69% now at 11:15, have made no phone calls or texts since then, have just downloaded opera mobile but havent even played with it...lol this is riduculous
I can recommend that you guys take a look at what might be pinging the CPU. Watchdog (Lite) is great for this task. You can have it alert you when an app exceeds a preset threshold for CPU usage. Some apps just go rogue on you like Palin from time to time.
I've also noticed that there's wide variability in terms of how apps go into either idle or background states. Some apps will go into idle only if you hit the back key to go back to the home screen and will enter a background state (more active) if you hit the home instead. I've also noticed that the free, ad-supported apps require more CPU time. That's right. Hitting Google's ad servers, at least for some apps, and scrolling those ads, requires more CPU time than other apps, which do the same. I don't know whether to fault the devs in this case when coding for the ad retrievals or not. Just some things to consider.
I just got mine. I came from a Blackberry 8900 and an old 2g iPhone. Battery life on both of those was significantly better. I could talk for 8 hours a day on the BB and it would last until midnight-1am or so. The iPhone would only last until 10pm.
Using the MT4G, my battery life is REALLY bad compared to these other two devices. I can get about 5.5 hours of continuous talk time, tested yesterday on a conference call for work. But even with only calling for about an hour and some basic email checking, I can't go past 6pm without putting the phone on the charger.
Wifi is off, screen at 50%. Someone please make a big fat 2800mah battery for this thing. I use this thing for work, and I make over 4000 mins a month of phone calls. It's really annoying to have to plug it in whenever I have the chance.
im getting roughly about 15-17 hours and im using it (camera, blogging, facebook uploading)
this destroys the EVO i had
Heavy usage, I'll get around there, 7-8 hours...regular usage gets me around 20 hours..I'm using setcpu w/ profiles..
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did you have similar battery problems with your old phone while at work?
i notice my nexus 1's battery is significantly worse when i'm at work since getting a signal is a bit spotty (35th floor) so it keeps searching around. when i'm at home the battery lasts literally twice as long while idle.
dinan said:
did you have similar battery problems with your old phone while at work?
i notice my nexus 1's battery is significantly worse when i'm at work since getting a signal is a bit spotty (35th floor) so it keeps searching around. when i'm at home the battery lasts literally twice as long while idle.
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Yes definitely right about that. I have better battery usage when I'm off work. My department at work is in the basement. So the signal switches on and off the whole time I'm there.
myTouch4G (Glacier)
dinan said:
did you have similar battery problems with your old phone while at work?
i notice my nexus 1's battery is significantly worse when i'm at work since getting a signal is a bit spotty (35th floor) so it keeps searching around. when i'm at home the battery lasts literally twice as long while idle.
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I think I only brought my G2 into work a couple times so cant really comment on that but in the 3 months ive owned the vibrant, if i used the phone a lot during the day....i mean play games, texts, web, etc..id leave with percentage in the 50s, normally in the 70s, at 4 today i was in the 30s with the mytouch with barely doing anything, since i want it to last until the night i just threw it on the charger. it shows I have full signal (4th floor by window)
My wife just got an mt4g (I have a nexus one). I've noticed that her battery life seems to be just over half what mine is, and I actually use mine more!
When I looked at her Battery Usage display, Android OS was near the top with almost 2h CPU time after being unplugged for 6h. For comparison, on my nexus one, CPU time for Android OS is 4m13s after almost 8h.
Any good way to break that number down more and find out the source of this crazy battery usage?
To make a long story short, my mom and I both got G2x phones on launch day. Two weeks to the day after our purchase, her battery died and refused to boot even while plugged into the wall charger (which I now know can be fixed by simply pulling the battery). I was busy at work and couldn't help her, and since it was the last day to return the phone within the 14 day period, I just told her to go ahead and return the phone for a replacement.
Prior to her replacement, we had pretty similar battery lives. I used mine more during the day, but she kept Bluetooth and other services running because she was used to an EDGE-only iPhone 3G where she never had to turn Bluetooth off. Our phones lasted between 10 and 12 hours depending on usage. Not great, but not terrible either.
Since she swapped hers out, her battery life is insane. I've attached a screenshot that shows 70% battery life after almost 24 hours. She had Bluetooth running 24/7 (notice it has the exact same usage percentage as Cell Standby) and WiFi running for a good portion of the time (though WiFi slept while screen was off). She had 4G running the whole time. While I know people might balk at the bad LG battery drivers, after 48 hours, she still had 17% battery life left. I apologize for not taking a screenshot--I didn't think about it until later that day. Though if anyone wants me to, I'll take one the next time her phone gets that far along.
I should mention that this is with no optimization at all. She did fully discharge the battery the first time she used it and charged it completely afterward, but that's it. The phone was unrooted and running stock everything with no special tweaks.
I'm very much considering going back to T-Mobile and seeing if they will swap it out. While mine doesn't seem to have the bleeding or other issues that other people have described, if I can trade mine out for a replacement that will quadruple my battery life, why not?
Wow that's amazing. I personally feel the G2x has excellent battery life. It has been way better than other Android phones I've had in the past (except for the original myTouch, I would get like 3 days out of that thing).
I wonder if the crazy battery life from your mom's phone is from the phone itself or the battery. I doubt T-Mobile will switch out your phone passed the exchange period (I'm a Tmo employee) but if they have any return G2x phones in stock, they should be cool to switch the battery out with you. I'm interested to see if it is indeed the phone or the battery.
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Wow that's amazing. I personally feel the G2x has excellent battery life. It has been way better than other Android phones I've had in the past (except for the original myTouch, I would get like 3 days out of that thing).
I wonder if the crazy battery life from your mom's phone is from the phone itself or the battery. I doubt T-Mobile will switch out your phone passed the exchange period (I'm a Tmo employee) but if they have any return G2x phones in stock, they should be cool to switch the battery out with you. I'm interested to see if it is indeed the phone or the battery.
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That's a good suggestion. I'll experiment by swapping batteries with her to determine if it's her phone or her battery. I am inclined to think it's something different with the phone, but we'll see!
this would REALLY suck if it's true... because I got mine at Radioshack.. and I really loathe going to that store... ugh.
I also have amazing battery life. I can go 12 hours at work and still have 80% left. Got mine from the store on launch day.
((LG Tegra G2x)) @FiberOpticRLD
Could you please post the manufactured date (back of the G2x Box) for the second phone? Saw some posts which said phones on or after 4/29 are really good without any of the previous issues.
Curious to see what the verdicts are. If we can get that kind battery life out of our phones, that'd be incredible!
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Yesterday I pulled my phone off the charger at 8AM. Went all day. I leave Wifi and Bluetooth on. Made about an hour of phone calls. Occasional checking of a website here or there. Did not charge phone at night. when I went to bed around midnight it was at 25% or so. Did not put it on charger. This morning it was at about 20%.
Not to rain on your parade. But from your screenshot, it shows no voice calls at all and little to no display use. 24 hrs on a charge without every really using the phone isn't really an accomplishment. Now if she can get 24 hours on a charge and have actually used the phone at least moderately then that would be different. I'd like to see how long her battery lasts with actual use of the phone. That would be a more true indicator of the battery life.
I was going to state that... based on that... her screen was only on for a total of 30 minutes out of 1440 minutes... not a major accomplishment. These phones are meant to be used not just carried around like a flip phone from 2001.
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kangxi said:
I was going to state that... based on that... her screen was only on for a total of 30 minutes out of 1440 minutes... not a major accomplishment. These phones are meant to be used not just carried around like a flip phone from 2001.
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Exactly! She could have pretty much accomplished the same thing by just leaving the phone turned off or just leaving it at home. Some of us would like to actually use our phones, not just have them around for decoration lol. Now if someone gets 24 hours on a single charge with actual use, then I'd love to see that thread as that would be useful information.
What's the date on your phone.
What's the date on your phone.
Mine is in my signature
Have had my rooted stock rom g2x since day 1.
Love phone. I am comming from H2 customed. I thought it had worst battery I have ever had.
That was till the g2x. I hate running a task killer. But am about to do just that to see if I can get anymore battery,.
Its to the point where I fully charge phone and yesterday with only 12 minutes of talk. Maybe 20 minutes of Web use and some emails. Battery was yellow.
This is a joke right? My only thought is that by having my Gmail auto refresh every 10 minutes possibly that could be some cause. But I if not in my car to keep on charger phone last barely a day.
Sounds like you have a bad battery, I get great battery life with the phone
G2X & Nexus S
I get 13hrs on this battety with wifi on all day.
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iceshark said:
Have had my rooted stock rom g2x since day 1.
Love phone. I am comming from H2 customed. I thought it had worst battery I have ever had.
That was till the g2x. I hate running a task killer. But am about to do just that to see if I can get anymore battery,.
Its to the point where I fully charge phone and yesterday with only 12 minutes of talk. Maybe 20 minutes of Web use and some emails. Battery was yellow.
This is a joke right? My only thought is that by having my Gmail auto refresh every 10 minutes possibly that could be some cause. But I if not in my car to keep on charger phone last barely a day.
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Did u calibrate?
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do u really think that is the standard performance of the G2x battery or is it more likely you got a bad unit ? Come on now people, stop posting this crap and just exchange your phone when you only get an hour of battery life. Why start a freaking thread ? You could have used that time to go exchange your phone.
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do u really think that is the standard performance of the G2x battery or is it more likely you got a bad unit ? Come on now people, stop posting this crap and just exchange your phone when you only get an hour of battery life. Why start a freaking thread ? You could have used that time to go exchange your phone.
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Totally true.
For those of you with problems, your phone is still new, it will be replaced either under buyer's remorse (15-20 days) or directly through tmobile after that period.
Just get a new phone and be done with it.
My first hot potato of a phone would get good battery life, until it cooked itself alive. My second phone was on for over 27 hours and was still at 50%. I'm still surprised.
First off guys. I am not a newbie to XDA or phones. No its not a bad battery.
Remember I am the Costco Manager so I can exchange phone as much as I want for 90 days.
This is my third as I wanted a perfect screen.
I have had this problem with all 3. So the battery is fine.
I use batt apk and I show about 5%loss per half hour after taking off charge
There is no way this is normal. Now I do have lots of apps. But I have froze some in Titanium. However I can blow out this charge in an hour with web use.]
No I did not calibrate. Did not read that till after. However I did charge initially correct.
My HD2 would gobble batterys. But this phone while I love it. Is not a great everyday use phone if not able to be on a charger during day.
iceshark said:
First off guys. I am not a newbie to XDA or phones. No its not a bad battery.
Remember I am the Costco Manager so I can exchange phone as much as I want for 90 days.
This is my third as I wanted a perfect screen.
I have had this problem with all 3. So the battery is fine.
I use batt apk and I show about 5%loss per half hour after taking off charge
There is no way this is normal. Now I do have lots of apps. But I have froze some in Titanium. However I can blow out this charge in an hour with web use.]
No I did not calibrate. Did not read that till after. However I did charge initially correct.
My HD2 would gobble batterys. But this phone while I love it. Is not a great everyday use phone if not able to be on a charger during day.
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Huh.. some people are getting awesome battery time. When it first came out, people were having success with doing factory reset on their phone. Idk.. I personally didn't buy it.. but they swore it worked. Give it a try.
iceshark said:
First off guys. I am not a newbie to XDA or phones. No its not a bad battery.
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So what you're saying then, is those of us with good battery life are the ones with the bad batteries? You really didn't think this through, did you?
I find my battery life was OK on the stock ROM. Nothing I'd get excited about, but I'd gotten used to insanely poor battery life running CM7 on my vibrant. Since I flashed the GB leak (no wipe, fixed permissions, erased battery stats) I'm seeing 18+ hrs with moderate usage.
gingerbread in general gets good battery life, cm7 for galaxy has problems due to samsung not following the google standards, those guys are basically shooting in the dark with that project, yet they have made huge improvments. recently people report decent to improved battery life on the latest builds.
to the op, what are your sync options? i find facebook sync and facebook contact sync are big culprits. also i only use google contact sync to get my contact list initially then turn it off. also if you have your gmail on the stock email app and the gmail app it can increase useage, if you prefer the email app id turn off google sync all together, if you like the gmail app id turn off fetch on the email app.
another culprit is weather apps using the location service, for me beautiful widgets is a battery hog on a vibrant rom but not on a captivate rom so results can vary from phone to phone.
and last of all i dont agree with calibration proceedures, i get some funky results with them, i just delete batstats and then charge to full. i find it takes 3 day minimum to get a good calibration, 5 days is sometimes needed.
I get very good battery life with mine and have been since day one. It lasts almost twice as long as my Vibrant and N1 did.
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I use juice defender to turn on/off my data for me when its not being used and the screen is off. It seems to work less than on vibrant.
I'm running stock rom and my battery life varies TREMENDOUSLY from when I'm at work and seldomly using it to when I'm home surfing the web on it ( tablets too far from couch I'm surprised I got the cookies )
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I was getting really bad battery life when I first got the phone (about 7hrs ) I ended up finding out that the touch led notification app was the culprit so I deleted it and also calibrated my battery and now my phone last all day easily and that with me playing guerrilla bob and the samurai game at work for like 2 hours lol
I recommend you download the where's my Droid power app from the market and see what's killing your battery
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Also keep in mind that it could be a certain app draining your battery. I downloaded the NFL apparently for draft day and even after exiting the app it took my battery down 15% in a matter of 10 minutes. Not to mention it had my battery's and CPU running super hot. On average I get about 12 hours out of a full charge with moderate to heavy usage.
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My last charge i got 36 hours of light use so I dont know what everyone's problem is lol
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So what you're saying then, is those of us with good battery life are the ones with the bad batteries? You really didn't think this through, did you?
I find my battery life was OK on the stock ROM. Nothing I'd get excited about, but I'd gotten used to insanely poor battery life running CM7 on my vibrant. Since I flashed the GB leak (no wipe, fixed permissions, erased battery stats) I'm seeing 18+ hrs with moderate usage.
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No wonder your a newbie and no listed thanks. What an asswade comment.
NO!!!!!!!!! What I am saying is that is has to be an internal issue with either synch times or possibly an APP be it internal or external that is causing MANY of us to have terrible battery times vs. others with good. Not saying anthing negative about those who are functioning ok.
I have been rooting and modding for 2 years. This is the worst battery usage yet. My Galaxy S 4g. Could last with same synch times and apps for 18 hours.
Now for those others who have there head inserted other then in there behind.
Okay ran some tests today,
1. Charged phone to 100percent.
2. Left everything the way it has been and no adjustments.
Battery at 84 Percent sitting tableside no text, app, wed or voice use after 2 hours. After 4 hours at 64 percent. After 6 hours at 51 percent. After 8 hours at 39 percent. This is with no usage. This is terrible.
Okay, Now have done following based on others test here and other forums.
1. Loaded Setcpu and made profile for sleep using stock 216 usage.
2. reluctently loaded Taskmanager Pro and killed all but needed apps.
3. Loaded Battery calibration app and after charge calibrated phone.
Left my email synch at every 10 minute as its needed for work.
We will see if this brings better test times now and report back.
What may be my culprit from studying this and other forums is I am in Seattle. We are Tmobiles home office corp and full test market for 4g and every change before rest of USA. I get full 4g at all times. In fact my speed tests are off the board. ave of 12 down 1.3 up speeds.
From what I am finding out, those of us in best 4g coverage (and Seattle is listed best) are finding much more drain on battery in standby and in use.
So my theory is that with this phone and its dual proccesor and my 4g, this is why myself and others in like markets are seeing much faster drain then others. Some dispute this possibility. however other experts say its fact.
Will report back findings tomorrow.
Thanks.
Dani897 said:
to the op, what are your sync options? i find facebook sync and facebook contact sync are big culprits. also i only use google contact sync to get my contact list initially then turn it off. also if you have your gmail on the stock email app and the gmail app it can increase useage, if you prefer the email app id turn off google sync all together, if you like the gmail app id turn off fetch on the email app.
another culprit is weather apps using the location service, for me beautiful widgets is a battery hog on a vibrant rom but not on a captivate rom so results can vary from phone to phone.
and last of all i dont agree with calibration proceedures, i get some funky results with them, i just delete batstats and then charge to full. i find it takes 3 day minimum to get a good calibration, 5 days is sometimes needed.
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May be some of my issue vs. others.
I do have sync on for FB and Google mail 2 accounts. and I use Fancy Widgets for my Weather and news feeds. However I also used these on my HD2 a known battery hog running cm7 and it had even better life then the phone. I run them on my other Galaxy s 4g as well and it has awesome battery life.
But I will freeze these in my next test after running this test.
iceshark said:
No wonder your a newbie and no listed thanks. What an asswade comment.
NO!!!!!!!!! What I am saying is that is has to be an internal issue with either synch times or possibly an APP be it internal or external that is causing MANY of us to have terrible battery times vs. others with good. Not saying anthing negative about those who are functioning ok.
I have been rooting and modding for 2 years. This is the worst battery usage yet. My Galaxy S 4g. Could last with same synch times and apps for 18 hours.
Now for those others who have there head inserted other then in there behind.
Okay ran some tests today,
1. Charged phone to 100percent.
2. Left everything the way it has been and no adjustments.
Battery at 84 Percent sitting tableside no text, app, wed or voice use after 2 hours. After 4 hours at 64 percent. After 6 hours at 51 percent. After 8 hours at 39 percent. This is with no usage. This is terrible.
Okay, Now have done following based on others test here and other forums.
1. Loaded Setcpu and made profile for sleep using stock 216 usage.
2. reluctently loaded Taskmanager Pro and killed all but needed apps.
3. Loaded Battery calibration app and after charge calibrated phone.
Left my email synch at every 10 minute as its needed for work.
We will see if this brings better test times now and report back.
What may be my culprit from studying this and other forums is I am in Seattle. We are Tmobiles home office corp and full test market for 4g and every change before rest of USA. I get full 4g at all times. In fact my speed tests are off the board. ave of 12 down 1.3 up speeds.
From what I am finding out, those of us in best 4g coverage (and Seattle is listed best) are finding much more drain on battery in standby and in use.
So my theory is that with this phone and its dual proccesor and my 4g, this is why myself and others in like markets are seeing much faster drain then others. Some dispute this possibility. however other experts say its fact.
Will report back findings tomorrow.
Thanks.
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those are shocking results man... I dont know what to tell you... If I literally dont touch my phone for 6 hours i will drain no more than 10% of my battery, closer to around 6 or 7% based on my battery monitor widget...
I pulled the phone off at 6 this morning and didnt touch it until 12 and I was at 92%... Chelsea got ****ing spanked this morning and I got a barrage of **** talk text messages that I did not want to deal with haha so my phone wen untouched for a good 6 hours...
I will say though, when I first got the phone my battery life was pretty wonky... first drain was great, second one was mediocre, the third and fourth ones were horrible, drained in 6 hours flat of light-moderate use... I did a factory reset at this point to try and change things up... Calibrated once after that and I have run it up and down to get a good read and I have not looked back since, like i said i can get 20-30 hours of moderate to light use no problem at all!
Great battery on my g2x
I had battery problems with my G2x, only lasted about 7-8 hours on moderate use and cell stabd by was like 50% of battery use.
After i installed the leaked official Gingerbread ROM is like a new phone, ofter 16 hours of use i still had 43% last night. In idle mode it uses about 1% in 2 hours.
I think the battery probles come from Froyo not getting along with the dual core processor.
This phone is awesome!
iceshark said:
Okay ran some tests today,
1. Charged phone to 100percent.
2. Left everything the way it has been and no adjustments.
Battery at 84 Percent sitting tableside no text, app, wed or voice use after 2 hours. After 4 hours at 64 percent. After 6 hours at 51 percent. After 8 hours at 39 percent. This is with no usage. This is terrible.
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Iceshark, you're not crazy. This is the same exact battery drain I get not even touching the damn phone! This is my second phone in less than 2 weeks, the first had the same results, both brand new.
Today I unplugged my phone at 12:45 pm, gave my mom a call for mothers day (less than 2 min talk time) Got to work and browsed web for maybe 5 minutes then clocked in at 2 pm. Took a 15 min break at 4pm battery was down to 80% (did some web browsing for 5 min). Took my 30 min lunch at 6pm (battery was down to about 60% (did some browsing for about 15 min). Took my last break at 8pm, and battery was down to 30%. I clocked out at 10:30 and I only had 20% battery left. The only timeI touched the phone was on my breaks, the rest of the time my phone was in my pocket. I had juicedefender running on balanced.
It's now 12:01am and I only have 14% battery left, that's not even 12 hours yet, and I only used the phone and it's features for less than an hour, all the other drain was sitting in my pocket. This is unacceptable. And I'm starting to think all the other people who claim to have great battery life are exaggerating or lying through their teeth.
Although I did a test yesterday using auto airplane mode, which automatically enables airplane mode when the screen shuts off, disabling any data, and then it turns data back on when you unlock the screen this helped very much with battery draining and at the end of an 8 hour work shift I still had 70% battery, but without data you can't receive calls, which sucks.
This battery drainage or bleed while the handset is not even being used needs to be fixed. And isn't it false advertising since the G2x specs indicate standby time is 400 hours?
What's up xda guys and gals? I'm at a point where I've just reached the end of my wits and I'm about to just give up entirely over this. I've spent countless hours reading, for weeks, months, and now a few years off and on trying to find a solution to this... but even with the help of some pals here on the forums, I'm at a total loss.
Ever since we went to 5.0 Lollipop, my battery drain during use (As in, general use like web browsing, messaging, reading, emailing, etc) has just become out of control. Like, I'm talking extreme and it doesn't matter what device I use O.O , Yeah... Basically, whether I am reading, emailing, browsing, I on average lose about 1% every 1-2 minutes. Phones always running hot, I've tried underclocking, minimum brightness, under volting. Nothing fixes it...
I've had this issue on:
The OnePlus One (Only after 5.0, never on KK)
The Moto X 2nd gen
The Moto X Pure
The Nexus 6p
The HTC M9
The HTC 10
The Xperia Z2 and Z3
Now...for a quick recap of what I do on my devices... I never use auto sync, everything is set to manual, location is off, location scanning is off, wifi scanning is off, bluetooth is only on while I am in the car (bluetooth use is really on 2015+), almost always manual brightness, never turned above 50%, if auto is used I still limited it to 50% as a max. No games are ever played (mobile games aren't real games), No 3D stuff, or other heavy gpu related nonsense.
With these things in mind... Here is my battery history. Only with major milestones to indicate progression.
From the first to the last (oldest to newest device)
Galaxy S2 - Average runtime of 15-17 hours with 1.5-2.5 hours of SOT. (Although 2.5 wasn't till I learned to root and used roms, so very late)
Galaxy S3 - Average runtime of 16-18 hours, 2-3 hours of SOT.
Galaxy S4 - Average Runtime of 18-21 hours, 3-4 hours of SOT
Moto X 1st Gen - Average Runtime of 19-24 hours, 5-6 hours SOT.
HTC M8 - Average Runtime of 18-30 hours, 5-5.5 hours of SOT
OnePlus One - Average Runtime of 20-35 hours, 6-8 hours of SOT. (Average was about 7, but was lower for a while when I was streaming 20GB of youtube/music a month over LTE.
What do I get currently on my newer OnePlus one? Between Cos12.1-CM13 (Tried different ones over time), a average runtime of 10-15 hours with 2-3.5 hours of SOT, 4 if I am lucky. HOWEVER...if I do not use the phone, at all, like ZERO usage it will show 1-2 days of standby, if I use it for more than 5 minutes, it will say like 4 hours.
WTF happened?
Now... the the other phones I listed above that I had the same issue with, were all mostly similar. The OPO is the only device out of that group that can go over 3 hours of SOT for me. When I had a Moto X Pure, I actually completely drained it in 3 hours and 22 minutes. As in, Not like 12 hours and then 3 hours 22 minutes of SOT, I mean 3 hours and 22 minutes of COMPLETE RUN TIME. That was just a collective of messaging, reading, browsing the web and some videos over wifi, never higher than 720p. Nothing out of my norm at all...
I went through 5 different Moto X Pure's, I just thought... "I have to have a crap one, it cannot be this bad". But I gave up after the 5th.
The only device I've used that gave me ROCK solid battery life on something running 5.0+ was the Nexus 6, It felt like a normal phone to me, but that dang ascending ringtone just killed it for me. Although now days I need waaaaaay more than 64GB, but i digress.
My question is... am I going nuts? Or did android just become extremely power inefficient after 5.0+? What happened? I just honestly cannot imagine that phones are this garbage with battery now days, I am a power user in terms of reading, messaging, and such, but I don't game or steam 1440p videos over LTE all day like some folks do. How on earth do people even use phones like that today? With all my efforts to be as battery economical as possible, it's horrible by 4.4 and under standards, what is it like for people who don't try to conserve at all? 1 hour phones? I'm seriously just at a loss...
Now, I know most of you will say "post battery stats", and I can do so if someone wishes...but it's never helped me find anything. There are no applications consuming like 80% of the power, it all just... looks normal, just Android System always around 12%-15%. I've tried multiple battery stat applications, I've sent stats to friends on xda, and so far it's just "normal". It basically feels like every phone I touch just magically has its' battery reduced to 1000 mah or something. I just... I'm seriously at a loss.
Can someone shed some light on this? Am I crazy? Or did 5.0+ just zap up the power?
Thanks
Hi, everyone!
I've been using Google''s cellphones since Nexus 4. For me, Nexus and Pixels are what a "real" Android phone should be. Until I bought the Pixel 3 XL.
The camera is great, the notch does not bother me at all. The body of the thing is nice. But there's is something that simply drive me mad and makes me fell like I will smash it on the floor any of these days.
The battery. The FREAKING BATTERY!
After almost a year since I bought the phone, the battery is the thing that I HATE SINCE DAY ONE! It's literaly garbage. As a normal user (don't have any kind of social network, except Whatsapp), I use the phone just for check e-mails, make some calls, some videos at YouTube, etc., and the phone barely holds until the end of the day WITH 4 HOURS OF SCREEN TIME, and look, IT TAKES ALMOST 2 HOURS TO CHARGE!
Updates came and go, and always the same [email protected]#$%% I have no other word to describe it besides this one. CRA!#$%%!#$
I've tried EVERYTHING, every tip on XDA and every relevant video on YouTube and NOTHING! Google's adaptative battery is HUGE lie. Digital Wellbeing as well. Finally, I tried to turn off the data and let only the wi-fi on and a miracle occurs. The phone sudenlly stops to drain 3/4% per hour in indle and pass to 0.5/1% per hour. The phone holds 52 hours with +/-4 hours os screen time with few minutes with data on (I live in a small town and everyplace that I go have Wi-Fi, only use data when I don't have).
This miracle lasted for a short time (12 days +/-). The drain stars again WITH THE DATA TURNED OFF.
To conclude, theres no tip, no tweak, no kernel, no custom ROM, no witchcraft, NOTHING THAT MAKES THIS INFERNAL BATTERY HAVE A DECENT LIFE! It's a crap! Googles sell us a crap with a crappy tecnology named as "adaptive battery".
Save yourselfs for a head ache. Do not spend mental health looking for solutions where there are none.
Sorry for all of these caps, but I really need to vent with someone.
Thank you for your time and let the ban hammer smash's my face!
Rafsxd said:
Hi, everyone!
I've been using Google''s cellphones since Nexus 4. For me, Nexus and Pixels are what a "real" Android phone should be. Until I bought the Pixel 3 XL.
The camera is great, the notch does not bother me at all. The body of the thing is nice. But there's is something that simply drive me mad and makes me fell like I will smash it on the floor any of these days.
The battery. The FREAKING BATTERY!
After almost a year since I bought the phone, the battery is the thing that I HATE SINCE DAY ONE! It's literaly garbage. As a normal user (don't have any kind of social network, except Whatsapp), I use the phone just for check e-mails, make some calls, some videos at YouTube, etc., and the phone barely holds until the end of the day WITH 4 HOURS OF SCREEN TIME, and look, IT TAKES ALMOST 2 HOURS TO CHARGE!
Updates came and go, and always the same [email protected]#$%% I have no other word to describe it besides this one. CRA!#$%%!#$
I've tried EVERYTHING, every tip on XDA and every relevant video on YouTube and NOTHING! Google's adaptative battery is HUGE lie. Digital Wellbeing as well. Finally, I tried to turn off the data and let only the wi-fi on and a miracle occurs. The phone sudenlly stops to drain 3/4% per hour in indle and pass to 0.5/1% per hour. The phone holds 52 hours with +/-4 hours os screen time with few minutes with data on (I live in a small town and everyplace that I go have Wi-Fi, only use data when I don't have).
This miracle lasted for a short time (12 days +/-). The drain stars again WITH THE DATA TURNED OFF.
To conclude, theres no tip, no tweak, no kernel, no custom ROM, no witchcraft, NOTHING THAT MAKES THIS INFERNAL BATTERY HAVE A DECENT LIFE! It's a crap! Googles sell us a crap with a crappy tecnology named as "adaptive battery".
Save yourselfs for a head ache. Do not spend mental health looking for solutions where there are none.
Sorry for all of these caps, but I really need to vent with someone.
Thank you for your time and let the ban hammer smash's my face!
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I don't get it. I am not specifically referring to you, but to the continued obsession with battery numbers. I get that back in the day the batteries would swell, the chargers sucked and you expected to get at least 3 years out of a phone. I obsessed over battery stats for years, never let it go under 20% or over 80% and did every power saving trick ever to massage the numbers. Now, I unplug it in the morning after a reboot and full charge and plug it in before I fall asleep typically with between 30 and 50 percent after a normal pretty hard day of use (while limiting the things that are wasting my time with alerts). Once on and once off every day. I don't remember the last time I had to charge mid day.
sliding_billy said:
I don't get it. I am not specifically referring to you, but to the continued obsession with battery numbers. I get that back in the day the batteries would swell, the chargers sucked and you expected to get at least 3 years out of a phone. I obsessed over battery stats for years, never let it go under 20% or over 80% and did every power saving trick ever to massage the numbers. Now, I unplug it in the morning after a reboot and full charge and plug it in before I fall asleep typically with between 30 and 50 percent after a normal pretty hard day of use (while limiting the things that are wasting my time with alerts). Once on and once off every day. I don't remember the last time I had to charge mid day.
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It's not about the numbers. It does not get in my head the fact that a person who don't use social networks, don't use much data, don't play games at phone have a poor battery life like mine. I mean, the adaptative battery suppose to learn how I use my phone and spend life time according to my use. I'm not a heavy user, BY FAR! It's not ask too much for better life time. I mean, the phones suppose to evolve not to involute. This battery is the worst of the whole line. Since galaxy nexus until now. I'm very disappointed. Really. The point of my post is only to talk a a little with you guys, and, makes me fell better. I'm not searching for a solution, because it does not exists and I have to live with that.
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It's not about the numbers. It does not get in my head the fact that a person who don't use social networks, don't use much data, don't play games at phone have a poor battery life like mine. I mean, the adaptative battery suppose to learn how I use my phone and spend life time according to my use. I'm not a heavy user, BY FAR! It's not ask too much for better life time. I mean, the phones suppose to evolve not to involute. This battery is the worst of the whole line. Since galaxy nexus until now. I'm very disappointed. Really. The point of my post is only to talk a a little with you guys, and, makes me fell better. I'm not searching for a solution, because it does not exists and I have to live with that.
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I just don't see it getting better. The phones are expected to look, sound and feel so much better than they used to. The apps are garbage childish code for the most part, and the core code isn't much better. I just make the best of it now.
I consistently get 4-5 hours SOT with 20-24 hours standby and use social media apps and lots of data. Sounds like you need to fine tune your settings and check wake locks, my device is just as old
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I consistently get 4-5 hours SOT with 20-24 hours standby and use social media apps and lots of data. Sounds like you need to fine tune your settings and check wake locks, my device is just as old
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Prints or never happened. Don't think bad of me, but I simply can't trust you without proofs. Pixel made me a skeptic.
Like I said, I don't use social medias, don't play games. And what wakelocks/settings I suppose to check?
I can get 3 and a halfs days standby if i just unplug and leave it, not touching it at all. With moderate use , downloading and updating apps, twitter constantly tweeting, facebook constantly facebooking, periscope instagram, windows phone app for notifications on my pc from phone, batterlife flips between 2days 5 hours and 2 days 9 hours. If i was to make phone calls for 30 mins it would drop to 1 day 23 hours but soon goes back up. Just to note, when i first got the phone, i would loose 1to2% every few mins, resulting in 18 hours standby, did some research and my own diagnosis, i stopped it from doing it.
I wake up at 8am. I plug my phone into Android auto on the way to work, and I'm at work at 9am with a full charge.
I play Spotify on the shop radio until about 12:30 religiously every morning via wired cord.
I go-to lunch and browse social, watch some videos, and play a game or two (asphalt or td5).
Get back to work and turn on YouTube music or pandora for the rest of the work day while occasionally using camera and social.
I get off work and usually hop on the bike with my BT on. I usually get home around 10-11 after getting food/socializing/stunting with 15ish percent
I average probably about 4.5 hours SOT.
Settings report "full charge last about 23 hours, 15 minutes.
I recently used my Nexus for a bit, and left my pixel on the counter with no sim, only wifi connection. Phone went on 3 days standby.
My battery is nothing to complain about. You may just be a victim of the old "silicon lottery".
Im 99% sure after alot of diagnosis, it down to device health services not doing its job, it literally freezes why phone in stanby and starts to make the phone produce heat, you can tell straight away if your device is affected, by the heat after leaving it in stand-by.
Rafsxd said:
Hi, everyone!
I've been using Google''s cellphones since Nexus 4. For me, Nexus and Pixels are what a "real" Android phone should be. Until I bought the Pixel 3 XL.
The camera is great, the notch does not bother me at all. The body of the thing is nice. But there's is something that simply drive me mad and makes me fell like I will smash it on the floor any of these days.
The battery. The FREAKING BATTERY!
After almost a year since I bought the phone, the battery is the thing that I HATE SINCE DAY ONE! It's literaly garbage. As a normal user (don't have any kind of social network, except Whatsapp), I use the phone just for check e-mails, make some calls, some videos at YouTube, etc., and the phone barely holds until the end of the day WITH 4 HOURS OF SCREEN TIME, and look, IT TAKES ALMOST 2 HOURS TO CHARGE!
Updates came and go, and always the same [email protected]#$%% I have no other word to describe it besides this one. CRA!#$%%!#$
I've tried EVERYTHING, every tip on XDA and every relevant video on YouTube and NOTHING! Google's adaptative battery is HUGE lie. Digital Wellbeing as well. Finally, I tried to turn off the data and let only the wi-fi on and a miracle occurs. The phone sudenlly stops to drain 3/4% per hour in indle and pass to 0.5/1% per hour. The phone holds 52 hours with +/-4 hours os screen time with few minutes with data on (I live in a small town and everyplace that I go have Wi-Fi, only use data when I don't have).
This miracle lasted for a short time (12 days +/-). The drain stars again WITH THE DATA TURNED OFF.
To conclude, theres no tip, no tweak, no kernel, no custom ROM, no witchcraft, NOTHING THAT MAKES THIS INFERNAL BATTERY HAVE A DECENT LIFE! It's a crap! Googles sell us a crap with a crappy tecnology named as "adaptive battery".
Save yourselfs for a head ache. Do not spend mental health looking for solutions where there are none.
Sorry for all of these caps, but I really need to vent with someone.
Thank you for your time and let the ban hammer smash's my face!
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You should RMA with Google. I recently have because I was having an early shutdown issue with my battery, but if you can prove it is your battery that is worse than others then Google can be understanding and send you a new one. Just fyi, I went through chat in the settings on my p3xl and only texted them. They were very accommodating and the RMA process was simple. Also my phone never takes longer than an hour to fully charge even from a low % with the cord that was shipped with the phone. Battery issues are a problem with Google phones.
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Im 99% sure after alot of diagnosis, it down to device health services not doing its job, it literally freezes why phone in stanby and starts to make the phone produce heat, you can tell straight away if your device is affected, by the heat after leaving it in stand-by.
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Dude I read your thread about the device health. Besides I had never update it, sounds like nonsense to me at all. I'm sorry.
Bryanx86 said:
You should RMA with Google. I recently have because I was having an early shutdown issue with my battery, but if you can prove it is your battery that is worse than others then Google can be understanding and send you a new one. Just fyi, I went through chat in the settings on my p3xl and only texted them. They were very accommodating and the RMA process was simple. Also my phone never takes longer than an hour to fully charge even from a low % with the cord that was shipped with the phone. Battery issues are a problem with Google phones.
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The problem is that I live in Brazil.
It's too expensive RMA it. The taxes here in my country is too high. Waiting for the Pixel 4.