I flashed the new radio on Virtuous' OP. However, I feel little or no difference in performance... Does anyone know what exactly this new radio accomplishes? I did do my reading but no one seems to have a definite answer. They say better wifi and data connection but that only seems like a speculation.
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Sure is a speculation, also lesser battery drain...
Tapatalked from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3 sources. WAKE UP HTC!!!!!!
Radio benefits are bound to be subjective depending on where in the world you are, what types of connectivity you use and and what you do with your phone.
So far over the last year I've found that with each subsequent Radio release/leak battery consumption has improved and wifi/GSM signal strength has been better.
But that is certainly not guaranteed. If you're S-OFF'd you should be able to rollback Radio releases if you find that the new radio is worse.
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WiFi has nothing to do with baseband ("radio"). Most, if not all, of the "improvements" in WiFi reception after baseband build change are placebo.
Jack_R1 said:
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WiFi has nothing to do with baseband ("radio"). Most, if not all, of the "improvements" in WiFi reception after baseband build change are placebo.
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you're suggesting that wifi has nothing to do with the radio? Just checking? As I've always believed it did...
I thought it had to do with bt, wifi, along with all types of mobile and data connections (ie gsm, edge,3g hspda etc)
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I would like if someone could explain this phenomenon to me!
I tough that the radio only changes the "radio" performance in the device, like signal strength, bluetooth, wifi and so on!
I upgraded my radio from version 1.02.25.25 to 1.02.25.28 and my device is now actually performing much better/faster in all aplications!
Can someone please explain what is affected with a rom update?
branko.savic said:
I would like if someone could explain this phenomenon to me!
I tough that the radio only changes the "radio" performance in the device, like signal strength, bluetooth, wifi and so on!
I upgraded my radio from version 1.02.25.25 to 1.02.25.28 and my device is now actually performing much better/faster in all aplications!
Can someone please explain what is affected with a rom update?
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While I do not cook my own roms or use custom ones, I have found from both research on here as well as first hand usage of updated roms from my carrier. The performance changes are mostly from things being tweaked or corrected. With custom roms that people here create you will find that they go into the data and gut out everything that is not needed as well as patch up bugs. They also make changes to different settings that they find are actually more efficient then the default ones.
With stock rom upgrades while they may or may not take items out but they do apply the same concepts as above. Modify settings to work better and correct known bugs. Bugs are where you lose performance. Poor coding can relate to a number of issues such as slower performance, memory leaks, device not functioning as intended and things running when they should not be which can lead to excessive battery loss.
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While I do not cook my own roms or use custom ones, I have found from both research on here as well as first hand usage of updated roms from my carrier. The performance changes are mostly from things being tweaked or corrected. With custom roms that people here create you will find that they go into the data and gut out everything that is not needed as well as patch up bugs. They also make changes to different settings that they find are actually more efficient then the default ones.
With stock rom upgrades while they may or may not take items out but they do apply the same concepts as above. Modify settings to work better and correct known bugs. Bugs are where you lose performance. Poor coding can relate to a number of issues such as slower performance, memory leaks, device not functioning as intended and things running when they should not be which can lead to excessive battery loss.
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That part I do understand, what I meant to ask was what the radio update changes to make the device faster?
That is what puzzles me most!
well said!
to be a little more specific to the radio rom, its still all about the bugs, cleaning and optimizing code. for instance if there was some bug causing a communication error between your device and the carrier, the phone would have to wait for that to be resolved (if ever) to properly use the radio (be it 3g, edge, etc.)
in another sense, if the processor cannot properly communicate with its own devices (radios: gps,wifi,bluetooth,edge,3g) it may take a chunk of processor power to try and figure out whats going on or repeatedly ping each device, which could slow it down.
my philosiphy is that if you can get the latest and greatest rom/radio rom for your phone, without bricking it, then by all means, do so. you'll be a happy camper when its done.
m.carroll said:
well said!
to be a little more specific to the radio rom, its still all about the bugs, cleaning and optimizing code. for instance if there was some bug causing a communication error between your device and the carrier, the phone would have to wait for that to be resolved (if ever) to properly use the radio (be it 3g, edge, etc.)
in another sense, if the processor cannot properly communicate with its own devices (radios: gps,wifi,bluetooth,edge,3g) it may take a chunk of processor power to try and figure out whats going on or repeatedly ping each device, which could slow it down.
my philosiphy is that if you can get the latest and greatest rom/radio rom for your phone, without bricking it, then by all means, do so. you'll be a happy camper when its done.
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Thanks, things make much more sense to me now!
So I guess that a better radio will almost always improve the device performance!
Now the only question is, can I use a radio designed for the diamond in my touch pro, or do I have to wait for more touch pro radios?
do NOT use a diamond radio. different hardware calls for different radio. just be patient, as soon as the US 3g version is actually available there will be more roms.
In the past, on my wizard, some radios had improved performance, while others decreased it...it depends on each revision to the radio rom.
m.carroll said:
do NOT use a diamond radio. different hardware calls for different radio. just be patient, as soon as the US 3g version is actually available there will be more roms.
In the past, on my wizard, some radios had improved performance, while others decreased it...it depends on each revision to the radio rom.
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Actually if you read the Hardspl thread and some of the others you'll find there is no problem flashing the Diamond radio on the Raphael with a couple of little tweaks
Hi
I have Coredroid ROM v6.5 installed on my inspire. The radio im using is:
12.48.60.23u_26.08.04.07_m3
The radio is real good when it come to GPS i mean my gps takes like 2-3 secs to lock any where and the accuracy is almost everytime 6 meters.
But the thing is like 30% of the time my network shifts to 3g and the reception bar drops to 1 (on a scale of 1-5) and sometimes even no bar at all. I have call drop issues too and sometime people calling me get the ring on there end but i dont get any calls.....
please recommend me any solution to that or any other radio with very good gps result as i use gps a lot. Thanks in advance.
Did you flash the appropriate RIL for the Radio?
Heres a list of the current Radios.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877295
Here are the RIL's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986
I was using Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M_Test on coredroid and had no problems. I've actually used this radio on quite a few of the roms with no issues.
I also flashed the leedroid kernal and used in in conjunction with coredroid and it improved my battery life drastically.
The RIL list doesn't have my radio mentioned. What should I do ? Install new radio?
Didn't saw the thread completely so I flashed the compatible RIL. Will tell if it works or not.
What radio do you have?
hi guys, on my Desire S (s-off with Rev), i've updated to pre-rooted rom 2.10.401.5 but i'm still with the old radio (20.28I.30.085), no bugs, no issues but I would like to update to the "correct" radio
here are the questions:
- have i to format&clean cache and partitions?
- would i have any advantages with the new radio?
- is it real that the 20.4801.xx radio has some battery drain's issue and so it's better to use 20.48.30 radio?
To answer some of your questions:
You don't have to format anything, although wiping your cache is recommended, because not doing it could lead to a bootloop after the radio is updated.
Strictly speaking, any advantages gained by changing a radio is probably only minimal. Some report better battery life, better reception, while most (me included) don't notice any difference. The opposite can happen, a friend of mine updated to a newer radio and it broke his wireless for good, so he had to revert.
I don't know about any battery issues, since I've not used that particular radio, but the general rule of thumb is, if you don't have any real problems with your current radio, there shouldn't be any reason to change it.
That's my 2 cents anyway, hope someone more knowledgeable in these matters can provide more info
I'm running he 20.4801 radio and actuLly find my battery life has improved over he 20.48 one.
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excuse me but didn't you say that you've had battery drain with 20.4801 and so you tryed the older 20.48.30?
hey guys, currently im on ordroid 6.1.0
faux kernel
sometimes my wifi or data will restart
does it have someting to do with radio??
which radio can i use for this rom?
I'm pretty sure it's a known bug. Your radio version usually only determines signal and strength depending on your area. It might even effect battery life, but I'm not certain about this.
sshede said:
I'm pretty sure it's a known bug. Your radio version usually only determines signal and strength depending on your area. It might even effect battery life, but I'm not certain about this.
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my wifi signal strength isnt that strong too. so for this problem is radio problem?
It very well could be. Not a lot of ICS radios though. I've also seen a thread that compares the Sensation's reception to other phones - it wasn't that good.
Sorry about grammer, posted from phone.
sshede said:
It very well could be. Not a lot of ICS radios though. I've also seen a thread that compares the Sensation's reception to other phones - it wasn't that good.
Sorry about grammer, posted from phone.
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any radio recommended?
Hi everyone
When I had the GB Arabic rom the gps signal was pretty good, and especially when i used the sports-tracker app for my bike tracking. When i updated to ICS the tracking was bad, the time interval of gps status opened to 3times longer, so the tracking is quite inaccurate, especially in highspeed bike routes.(<20km/h). So i trying to understand what's going on...i tried quite a few apps for tracking, and in different roms but the results are the same. I wonder what is the problem? is the kernel or the radio?
andrewschumi said:
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When I had the GB Arabic rom the gps signal was pretty good, and especially when i used the sports-tracker app for my bike tracking. When i updated to ICS the tracking was bad, the time interval of gps status opened to 3times longer, so the tracking is quite inaccurate, especially in highspeed bike routes.(<20km/h). So i trying to understand what's going on...i tried quite a few apps for tracking, and in different roms but the results are the same. I wonder what is the problem? is the kernel or the radio?
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All signals (Data, WiFi and GPS...) are handled by the radio firmware. In your case, I would recommend that you downgrade your radio to the previous version and it will be back to normal, I guess, or at least back to the way it was.
That's what happens when you don't search - you get answers from people who don't know themselves and also mislead others.
For 100000th time:
The only thing that is governed by "radio" (baseband) - is cellular network, voice and data. All the rest is in the kernel. That includes WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, NFC, and what not.
Where am I misleading him ? Sorry, but if i'm mistaken, I was previously misled by this sticky thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21856647
Of course, kernel has one responsibility in signal handling (even with baseband) but radio contains the firmware to the physical signal processing which is then handled to the kernel. In his case, it looked more like a radio problem but maybe I'm wrong as I'm pretty new to Android !
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Indeed this thread is misleading, and it has probably mislead you among many others.
I've posted in this thread, hopefully this glossary will be updated.
Radio doesn't contain anything. The devices that aren't baseband-related aren't connected to it, they don't use the same HW, nothing. Their signals don't go through "radio", aren't processed by it, and aren't involved in its functionality. In fact, in most/all phones these devices (WiFi, GPS etc) are external modules that can be independent of the main chipset/SoC.