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[Q] [i5800] No free internal memory!

Hi there,
I have a Samsung Galaxy 3 i580 device, and whenever I want to put something on my internal (root) memory, I get a 'no space' error.
Now I installed Root Explorer, and it seems that there are A LOT of .apk files in my /system/apk folder.
Am I allowed to delete these .apk's, or are they actually used?
And what else should/can I do to clear my memory?
Note: I still have 40+ mb memory left on the phone to install apps, just not in the root memory.
Thanks in advance for your time!

have you tried to mount system r/w in rootexplorer

You can delete them with root explorer...just be sure you know which you are removing as some are essential for a stable phone
swyped....and I apologize for not proofreading

Yes, the system was in r/w from the beginning.
Question: When I use apps2sd, will my apps still be installed to the /system/app folder on my internal memory?

Most will and app2sd will notify you if they can be moved but some apps automatically install to sd. Angry birds is one example.
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newter55 said:
Most will and app2sd will notify you if they can be moved but some apps automatically install to sd. Angry birds is one example.
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So there is no way to make free space in my internal memory, except for removing apps?

[Q] Not Enough Internal Storage

Hello,
Infuse 4g. I uninstalled Skype (which is apparently a mistake) because when I try and reinstall it, the phone locks up, black screen, and reboots upon install. The Skype app downloads fine, but will not install with out locking up the phone. Sometimes, I get a message which states I have too little of internal storage, which is at .93GB. Does any body have any suggestions for me about how to install Skype?
The phone is rooted and I have titanium backup, which I tried to reinstall that way to, same problem, the phone locks up.
Any ideas about how to get more internal storage.
Thanks
Charles

Hmm try cleaning your /data partition or going to ics
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Use tibu to move some apps to sd card?
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Check threads about what you can safely remove
I use TiBu and remove youtube, maps, voice apps, news apps, and other crap. I typically try to keep 90 to 100 mb free.
Do a search for things you can safely remove.
Do a tibu backup before removing. If something goes wrong you can easily reinstall it.

well, Ive removed alot of stuff I dont use, but internal storage remains at .91 GB? This is a major drag, not having Skype really sucks. What's odd, is I used to have Skype on the phone, I uninstalled it thinking it would be no big deal to reinstall it...but it will not install. Skype downloads fine, but upon installation, it will lock up the phone everytime and I must reboot. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks

Thanks GoSooners, but you lost me. How do I clean my data partition?

GUZZLR said:
Thanks GoSooners, but you lost me. How do I clean my data partition?
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Well you can wipe your data partition but it'll uninstall your apps and undo anything you've done with your phone. Just move some large apps to sd card. You can do that by going into settings. You shouldn't see that message unless you have less than about 200-300 mb.

I am more than satisfied with the internal storage...
I dont install much apps, just essentials, it also helps when changing roms because u dont have to install all of them everytime...

dogg409 said:
I use TiBu and remove youtube, maps, voice apps, news apps, and other crap. I typically try to keep 90 to 100 mb free.
Do a search for things you can safely remove.
Do a tibu backup before removing. If something goes wrong you can easily reinstall it.
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unrelated that's all on the system partition which is read only and doesn't need free space..
the free space error is a market problem and unrelated to the actual free space. some kernels have a patch for this. i dont really remember the details for fixing it manually but gtg used to have a modified market and a init.d script that fixed it but that was on an old version of the market.
if you can get a current version of the apk you can side load it with a file explorer by either clicking it and letting the install program run or by moving it to /data/app with a root file explorer.
between 1+gb data partition for apps and app data and the apps2sd feature in android and 14gb internal sd storage you shouldn't have storage issues. even if you fill the sd with rom .zips and multimedia you should still never reach the 1gb /data partition because android apps simply arent that big with the exception of a few high end games that i beleive actually install to the sdcard
.93gb is a ton of space for phone apps! but is that the internal sd or the /data partition

Thanks Dani897. If I read you correctly, you believe it's a problem with the app, and not the phone? Which is what I always thought. When I first got the phone, Skype installed fine, now it does not.
Phone Info:
Samsung I-997 Infuse, rooted
Version: Froyo
Go Launcher
Internal SD Card Storage = 8.12 GB available
External SD Card Storage = 6.8 GB available
Internal Phone Storage = .92 GB
Maybe if I could somehow get an old version of Skype, maybe that would work?

Format internal storage

How can we format internal memory (storage)? I can't find that option on settings.
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That would wipe android out. You can format /data by doing a factory reset. Just don't delete /system.

So how do you reclaim lost space? I flashed Derp3D last night and now I only have 426mb of internal storage instead of 512mb. That means 86mb is now lost to the voids.

If your objective is to restore lost space then formatting the entire data partition is a rather extreme way of doing it.
Perhaps you would be better off with one of the many cleaning tools available. SD Maid, for example, can search out and remove cache and temp files as well as identifying app data that may be safely removed. ZDbox also has a cleaning tool. If you are rooted and want to go deeper then System Cleanup is a worthy option which enables you to move updates to system apps into the system partition, thus clearing space in the data partition.
Another option is to uninstall some of the bloatware which comes with stock ROMs that you don't need.

[Q] FB,Gmail, other system apps to internal memory

I rooted my Xperia E C1504 ( single ). No flashing ROM. Nothing. Just rooted. I could move some of the non-movable apps to internal memory after rooting. But there are still apps like Facebook, Gmail, Browser, that are considered as system apps and unable to move to internal memory.
I use Titanium Backup.
And if I could move these apps, I think I can hibernate them in Greenify.
I searched for modules in Xposed Framework too. No use there.
Someone help please ?

sayujnair said:
I rooted my Xperia E C1504 ( single ). No flashing ROM. Nothing. Just rooted. I could move some of the non-movable apps to internal memory after rooting. But there are still apps like Facebook, Gmail, Browser, that are considered as system apps and unable to move to internal memory.
I use Titanium Backup.
And if I could move these apps, I think I can hibernate them in Greenify.
I searched for modules in Xposed Framework too. No use there.
Someone help please ?
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have you used link2sd!

Next time read the changelog!! Greenify oredi have the feature. U need to use greenify donation vers.
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sayujnair said:
I rooted my Xperia E C1504 ( single ). No flashing ROM. Nothing. Just rooted. I could move some of the non-movable apps to internal memory after rooting. But there are still apps like Facebook, Gmail, Browser, that are considered as system apps and unable to move to internal memory.
I use Titanium Backup.
And if I could move these apps, I think I can hibernate them in Greenify.
I searched for modules in Xposed Framework too. No use there.
Someone help please ?
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download link2sd. It has a "convert to user app" option
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Angelcho said:
download link2sd. It has a "convert to user app" option
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I did use that app "link2sd". And no, it doesn't show that option "Convert to user app" for system apps, but it shows "convert to system app" for user apps. And it showed me an error when I tried 'Move 2 SD card' with Facebook, Gmail.
Now what ? And also, App shortcuts on the home screen disappears if I reboot my device. However, apps installed on phone remains on home screen but not the ones moved to Internal Memory. Any idea about this too ?

sayujnair said:
I did use that app "link2sd". And no, it doesn't show that option "Convert to user app" for system apps, but it shows "convert to system app" for user apps. And it showed me an error when I tried 'Move 2 SD card' with Facebook, Gmail.
Now what ? And also, App shortcuts on the home screen disappears if I reboot my device. However, apps installed on phone remains on home screen but not the ones moved to Internal Memory. Any idea about this too ?
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From the play store download /system/app mover. It is a free app, you need busybox installed though. Use that, it will convert the apps to user apps for you. Quick tip start from the bottom and work your way up.
And the problem about the shortcuts disappearing is common with apps installed to the SDCard and Internal Memory. Since they are stored on storage's what are loaded after the phone has booted the shortcuts get unlinked.

On older phones (Xperia x10) I was able to partition the sd card and have an ext-3 partition which is native to android/linux, link2sd was able to move system apps to it as it was already considered mounted at boot so nothing would unlink.. I have been trying to do this will the milo with little success, the phone considers either the internal sd or external sd card as 'damaged' when partitioned - I have tried a variety of tools which have been successful on other Sony mobiles, it then proceeds to reformat and partition the card(s) back to their default state.. Highly annoying, as by using an ext partition you could have gigabytes of system storage, so I can only assume there is something about the miro range which makes partitions unusable.
Performance is lessened when using ext partitions but that performance drop is significantly less than only have 50mb of ram available compared to 300 or 400mb!
If I have any success I will update you but at the moment im baffled..
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gamer649 said:
From the play store download /system/app mover. It is a free app, you need busybox installed though. Use that, it will convert the apps to user apps for you. Quick tip start from the bottom and work your way up.
And the problem about the shortcuts disappearing is common with apps installed to the SDCard and Internal Memory. Since they are stored on storage's what are loaded after the phone has booted the shortcuts get unlinked.
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I tried with Titanium Backup. It worked! Phew. But hey, still thanks to you and everyone whoever responded.

Lag and bad performance when running out of storage

As the tilte is saying, whenever there's less than 100 mb of internal storgare the performance just dies. Even scrolling is laggy. I've used multiple ROMs (CM 11, 10.1, 9/SlimKat/SlimSaber/BeanStalk) but no luck. I've also used Greenify and it hasn't helped. I only install the apps I really need : Facebook, Facebook Messenger, Shazam, Hangouts, Youtube, Viber. That's it ! I even uninstall wallpapers and ringtones, plus all the apps that could be moved to the SD card are moved.
Does anyone have any suggestions ? Maybe increasing the internal storage on KitKat ? Or are there any tweaks I'm not aware of ?
Thanks in advance.

First backup your SD card. And then create external partition type ext4, using TWRP recovery and only TWRP (If you use any other tools, you will not be able to backup sd-ext using TWRP, and this is from my experience).
Next, get Link2SD app, and create mount scripts, reboot, set Auto linking checked and (also App, Library, and Dalvik checked). And link App, Library, and Dalvik files to sd-ext. If you paid for Link2SD+, you will be able to link internal data too. A warning though, keep important apps that starts up with android on internal memory such as launchers to prevent lag. Depending on what class your SD card, you might not notice any lag at all. I still have the 16GB that came with the phone, and it is not really fast, it is laggy but not much.
I know I will be lashed for saying this, but get Lucky Patcher (use it for legal stuff only, lol) and ODEX all your system files. Custom roms are unoptimized due to the need to have resource hooks and hacking the system files or debugging them. Creating Optimized dexs, they will occupy less memory and become faster. You will notice a significant improvement in speed.
Currently, I have SlimKat 4.4.4, 2.5GB sd-ext ext4 partition (~1.5GB used) and have 204MB free on internal. And around 143-145 apps installed ranging from few hundreds of KBs to tens of MBs. And the system is snappy.
Another warning if you use Titanium Backup, if you batch restore many apps at once, Link2SD might not be able to catch up linking apps as soon as Titanium Backup finish restoring the apps with data, causing memory go low or Titanium Backup freeze. A solution to this, only restore chunks of 10 or 15 apps at once, and wait till Link2SD done linking all of the apps.
After you are satisfied with the results, go to TWRP and backup EVERYTHING including sd-ext. EXCEPT "EFS" partition (if it does show up), which you might get bad IMEI number if you restore EFS again. You can enable compression to the backup, which helpfully compressed the ~2300MB files to ~1300MB for me.
Good luck. :good:

Thanks mate ! Gonna try ASAP !

Rebel_X said:
First backup your SD card. And then create external partition type ext4, using TWRP recovery and only TWRP (If you use any other tools, you will not be able to backup sd-ext using TWRP, and this is from my experience)....
Good luck. :good:
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First, thanks for writing this. Now, just a quick question, did you have had problems with apps disappearing after a update?
This begin happening like a month or so ago. After an app auto-update, it disappear, and I have to recreate the mount script on Link2SD and reboot for it to appear again. Now I disable auto-update, android only notify me of updates. Then I remove the links of the app to update on Link2SD, then update the app, and then I create the links again.
I have my device set up exactly how I like it, but I'm thinking about erasing my phone and starting up again.

llinkll said:
First, thanks for writing this. Now, just a quick question, did you have had problems with apps disappearing after a update?
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I believe this happened to me long time ago when I used an older version of Link2SD. The newer version promised that it fixed Apps disappearing after booting. But, if that happens to you, you can fix this easily by "Relink all app files" from Link2SD to find any unlinked apps that are supposed to be linked and then reboot or soft reboot from Link2SD. Or you can "Clear 2nd Partition" and/or Dalvik cache to delete the apps that disappeared and reinstall them again. But an answer to your question, I didn't have any apps disappear on me when I started clean.
Also, for anyone deciding on ODEXing system files. Choose a ROM that have enough free space in system partition to do so. Some roms have less than 8MB in system partition (CM11!) which can cause problems when doing so. SlimKat 4.4.4 is really slim, you have over 40MB free in system partition. If you want to keep the ROM you are using, you can free more space in system partition by converting the Keyboard app to a user app, that is another 40MBs free (and if you did that, you have to reselect the Keyboard from Language input in settings, by un-ticking/re-ticking the checkbox, also don't link the Keyboard app to 2nd partition, it can cause lag). I noticed if you have less than 5MB in system partition, the performance of the phone suffers greatly.
From using Link2SD to view storage information, you will notice that Data partition and Cache partition are the same (I could be wrong here, but that what it seems to be). So it is important to have more free space in the Data partition.

Rebel_X said:
First backup your SD card. And then create external partition type ext4, using TWRP recovery and only TWRP (If you use any other tools, you will not be able to backup sd-ext using TWRP, and this is from my experience).
Next, get Link2SD app, and create mount scripts, reboot, set Auto linking checked and (also App, Library, and Dalvik checked). And link App, Library, and Dalvik files to sd-ext. If you paid for Link2SD+, you will be able to link internal data too. A warning though, keep important apps that starts up with android on internal memory such as launchers to prevent lag. Depending on what class your SD card, you might not notice any lag at all. I still have the 16GB that came with the phone, and it is not really fast, it is laggy but not much.
I know I will be lashed for saying this, but get Lucky Patcher (use it for legal stuff only, lol) and ODEX all your system files. Custom roms are unoptimized due to the need to have resource hooks and hacking the system files or debugging them. Creating Optimized dexs, they will occupy less memory and become faster. You will notice a significant improvement in speed.
Currently, I have SlimKat 4.4.4, 2.5GB sd-ext ext4 partition (~1.5GB used) and have 204MB free on internal. And around 143-145 apps installed ranging from few hundreds of KBs to tens of MBs. And the system is snappy.
Another warning if you use Titanium Backup, if you batch restore many apps at once, Link2SD might not be able to catch up linking apps as soon as Titanium Backup finish restoring the apps with data, causing memory go low or Titanium Backup freeze. A solution to this, only restore chunks of 10 or 15 apps at once, and wait till Link2SD done linking all of the apps.
After you are satisfied with the results, go to TWRP and backup EVERYTHING including sd-ext. EXCEPT "EFS" partition (if it does show up), which you might get bad IMEI number if you restore EFS again. You can enable compression to the backup, which helpfully compressed the ~2300MB files to ~1300MB for me.
Good luck. :good:
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dude? what if uninstall my lucky patcher? is the odex file still there?

DerPuGNa said:
dude? what if uninstall my lucky patcher? is the odex file still there?
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I don't think that will affect ODEX files at all.
LoL, every time I read your username I read it as "Danganronpa" (Japanese word for bullet time) as the great Anime show (an adaptation of the PSP game). Please don't take that offensively :good:

Thanks !!!! Gonna report back with the performance !
Intial thoughts : *Very* good.